Maybe We Need More 'Leaders'
Ok, I'm not a big hockey fan, but from what I can surmise, some of you are. Get a load of this clip of Gary Roberts, who is 41 years old mind you, fighting some young whipper snapper that I've never heard of. It's an impressive display of combat skills, but the true comedy comes from the play-by-play announcer exalting Roberts' leadership qualities near the end of the clip.
Funny how fighiting in hockey is construed as showing leadership, yet people went bananas over the NBA brawl at The Palace in Detroit several years ago.
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If you want to watch lots of leadership there's always Hockey Fights which is always good for timewasting.
Also The Pens Blog is a fantastic completely NSFW and inappropriate Penguins blog that is always good for some laughs.
What aboutMy 2 cents
That being said, I think the reason for a lack of outrage is more do to the fact that far fewer people care about hockey and it is not easily accessible for the casual fan. News shows and talking heads gloss over it because people tend to tune it out and/or change the channel.
A far as needing this type of leadership, could you imagine the prison sentence Harrison would have received had he slammed Brady in the endzone when he was talking smack to Smith. It would have made me smile, though .
ok cool
I don't condone what happened in the NBA game, but I just think it's kind of amusing that if NFL players or NBA players fight they're labeled as thugs or out of control, whereas they're revered in the NHL.
its a standard
Yeah
This reminds me of something I heard Barry Melrose say once, and I think it's true of the NFL to an extent too. He said that one reason more players were slashing with sticks in the 90's and early 00's was that players allow the league to handle those issues through fines. He said it was better how it used to be. Nobody would try attacking a star player with a stick, because they would be punished later on by one of the other team's "enforcers".
The NFL used to be a bit more like that too. I can't remember where, but I heard another story of the Steelers playing the Broncos, and Lyle Alzado said or did something to Franco. The team decided to start running every play right at him, and by the 4th quarter, he was whipped.
by WolfpackSteelersFan on Dec 19, 2007 5:11 PM EST reply actions
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by Michael Bean on Dec 19, 2007 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure if I can
by WolfpackSteelersFan on Dec 20, 2007 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Dec 20, 2007 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
hockey fighting
Gary Roberts is a tough and formerly talented guy who I've followed for more than 20 years. He will ''stand up''' for teammates by challenging opponents who take liberties. But he has been guilty of numerous dirty plays himself, especially with the deterioration of hsi skills, and he is no longer a good enough player to warrant being considered a leader. He's a fringe player at best but he understands the game and the code of conduct that should exist on the ice.
No one should confuse fighting with leadership. Occasionally there are fights between teams' real leaders, for example the Stanley Cup final a few years ago featured a great fight between Jarome Iginla of the Flames and Vincent Lecavalier of the Lightning. Neither would back down and they went at it. The fight helped set the tone for a very good series. Guys like Chris Pronger use intimidation but that's just the way they play, it's not an essential part of being a leader. It was the same with Mark Messier. Guys like Steve Yzerman were no less a leader because they did not fight, although Yzerman and even Gretzky had the odd scrap. Gretzky just one I believe. He didn't have to, because there were plenty of teammates who would ''discourage'' anyone from even looking sideways at Wayne.
Aside from box lacrosse, there is no other organized team sport I know of that essentially allows players to fight. Anyone who plays junior hockey in Canada is told by his coach or one of the older players or even his dad to get his first fight out of the way just so he knows what the hell its all about and discourages other teams from trying to intimidate him.
The Steelers need some of their leaders to step up and do what all leaders do, in any sport or even business: Take accountability, set an example in their approach to the job and encourage others to adhieve team goals rather than individual goals.
Roberts
Roberts
ah yes
by Michael Bean on Dec 19, 2007 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
You want a leader?
Need proof? He's announced that in honor of his first Pro Bowl selection, he's taking his entire offensive line and thier wives/significant others with him to Hawaii for the week.
In this day of classless athletes Ben stands out as one of the good guys left.

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