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Steelers Welcome Back Najeh Davenport

This isn't news to you folks, obviously, so I'm not going to go to much into detail here. I am curious though about your opinions on the decision. Here's the way I see it. Yes, Davenport is familiar with what we're trying to do on offense. Yes he was successful last year for the most part when called upon. And yes he was quite good in short yardage situations. I don't have the figures on me right now, but I believe he was one of the better backs in the league picking up 3rd and short situatoins. And I should also note that I understand that we have a short week here to prepare for the Jaguars, and that has to be taken into consideration when deciding on someone to be your primary ball carrier.

Still, part of me is disappointed that we're not taking a risk on somebody else. I have no idea who that guy might be, but that's my point. Nobody knew who Willie Parker was coming out of UNC. Very few people had Ryan Grant on their radars. I could go on, but you get the gist. There's a reason teams are reluctant to spend high draft choices on running backs and it's because there's lots of guys in the 5'10"-6'2" 205-230 pound range that are all have roughly the same straight line speed, and are willing to take the physical toll of being an NFL RB. Some, very few actually, have the immeasurables, like vision and instincts, to turn out great.

I know Willie Parker will be back. Not this week against Jacksonville, but probably after the BYE week. At that time he'll resume his 20-30 carry per game routine for the remainder of the season. And there will be very few people happier than me that he's back. If he can stay healthy, great, end of discussion. He's our guy. But what it he does get banged up again?  I think at this point it's not unreasonable to state that the organization might be thinking about legitimate contigency plans. They might respond that they have: by signing Davenport. I suppose I just disagree about decision. It's a decision that reminds me of last year, of finding adequate solutions to big problems. To not taking chances when appropriate.  After all, we know what Davenport's capable of against a tough Jags rush defense. He did start last year's playoff game against them and he got 16 carries. Problem is he only picked up 25 yards.

Again though, since I have no concrete alternatives, this is a bit of a hollow complaint. But it may just be me being anxious or apprehensive that this line of thinking is still prevalent, even though in Davenport's case, the decision makes enough sense. But with regards to other decisions that need to be made on our squad, like along the line, and perhaps with our coordinators and assistants, and even the play calling, I don't think conservative and safe is going to cut it. It's hard to let Bruce Arians go when he was part of a playoff apperance and personal bests from our franchise QB. It's hard to not give Kendall Simmons his job back next year when he's been a loyal veteran, not to mention the fact that he makes huge bucks.  It's tough to take chances in the National Football League, basically.

Agree? Disagree? Or am I not even making any sense?

 

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I would have liked to have gary russell , justin vincent and MM , have them split the carries going into this game and then FWP should be back after the bye week to get his 20-30 carries like blitz mentioned.

by 92SteelersFan4Life07 on Oct 1, 2008 7:56 AM EDT reply actions  

russell

I think we might still see him. With Carey Davis’ ankle hurt (any word?), Russell might be signed if we’re set on having 3 RBs on the squad.

by Michael Bean on Oct 1, 2008 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Doh, I should read all the comments.

by steelguy99 on Oct 1, 2008 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mmm, yeah I did like vincent in the pre-season, for whatever running against 2nd-stringers is worth.

For some reason I read something yesterday where I thought tomlin implied that Najeh would be at the back of the depth chart. This would make sense because even though he knows the offense, he hasn’t practiced since early this year and since then the line has made some changes in how it blocks.

As a backup a Najeh signing makes a lot of sense. If all hell breaks loose and russell goes down expect someone like Vincent to get pulled off the practice squad, but for now Najeh just makes too much damn sense.

I do not, do not like dookie being anything other than a contingency plan or 3rd and 1 back. I also can’t find where I read what led me to believe he would be at the basement of the depth chart, so I might be wrong.

by steelguy99 on Oct 1, 2008 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes Russell

I don’t disagree with the signing of Davenport but he shouldn’t be our feature back until FWP returns. I hope we have enough sense, to sign Russell, use him against the Jags, and use Dookie as a contingency. But then again we are talking about Arians.

by woody71 on Oct 1, 2008 8:29 AM EDT reply actions  

I don’t know how valid the “he knows our offense” argument is for Davenport because we at least partially changed our blocking scheme over the off season. He possibly got some time in it, but not much. Justin Vincent and Billy Lasko are 2 other guys we’ve had around, but I don’t think they have the upside of Russell, so I don’t have a problem activating Davenport over those guys as long as Russell gets more carries than him.

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by BadMaafala on Oct 1, 2008 8:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Russell signed

Russell has been signed off the practice squad. Let’s hope he plays most game Sun. night.

by woody71 on Oct 1, 2008 9:36 AM EDT reply actions  

completely agree Blitz

Dookie is the safe choice, but I wouldn’t have minded them going after a young kid with more upside. I don’t have any clue who that is but I’m sure they’re out there.

by cgolden on Oct 1, 2008 10:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Najeh

I think he is the right choice for this circumstance a long as it is in the capacity of an emergency back. hopefully he will not see any plays this week.

I think the young guy with upside is in fact Russell. I would like to see him get 10-15 carries while MM gets 8-12 touches and M plays the 3rd down role. Najeh should only come in for an injury. If C. Davis is healthy, that should spread the distribution more and definitely make Najeh a spectator.

by _ET_ on Oct 1, 2008 10:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Forget upside

I think that Najeh was the right choice. We have plenty of upside guys (Russel, Mendenhall). I think what the Steelers need is a guy who knows the team, and can get in their and make plays. Najeh, for all the flack he took when he became the starter, had a good season last year.

“He was second in rushing for the Steelers behind Parker last season with 499 yards and a 4.7-yard average per carry. He also led them with five rushing touchdowns, three more than anyone else, and scored two more receiving with 18 receptions for 184 yards.”

And remember that Davenport returns kicks as well, something we don’t want M&M doing, if he is playing on first and second down.

by SteelerBuddha on Oct 1, 2008 11:08 AM EDT reply actions  

He catches the ball, but I don’t know that you’d call that returning kicks. Unlike previous shots at it, Holmes looked pretty decent back there. It’s too bad it will likely get him killed in the long run.

by steelguy99 on Oct 1, 2008 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

True, I don’t think he made any highlight reels last year. But I am having a hard time remembering who the last Steeler Kick-Off return guy was who scared anyone apart from Steeler fans. Thoughts?

by SteelerBuddha on Oct 1, 2008 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ike?

I don’t know if Ike ever scared opponents but I was always excited to see him returning kicks due to his speed.

by woody71 on Oct 1, 2008 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m cool keeping stone-hand Ike out of that position.

by steelguy99 on Oct 2, 2008 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't remember

him ever fumbling a kick-off. Did he? You are right about stone hands, he would already be an all-pro if he caught just half of the balls he got his hands on.

by woody71 on Oct 2, 2008 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm with Dookie and SteelerBuddha on this one

I think it was a good choice. Russel is our wild card pick-up, its time to see what he’s got and where his ambitions lies. Other than the fact that Dookie is familiar with the offense (good for the no-huddle) I think he has good measurables (is that a word??), he’s decent at pass protection, return kicks (help out #10 and MM), he has good hands and elusiveness (which will be good for a short passing game with all the blitzes we’ll see). His problem is he doesn’t run downhill and doesn’t lower his shoulder enough (hopefully Russel takes care of that).

And I hope Davenport has some added intensity because he lost his job because of the 2 Jacksonville games, his mentality (along with the rest of the team) should be ‘its time for payback’ and take this aggression out on the field and not his g/f. Steelers survived MNF and this next game is the statement game for how the wounded Steelers season will unfold – the Steelers will either have an offense explosion or implosion; the defense is running on a spare tire and will regroup after the Bye; and guess what special teams is holding it down. (Kudos to ST!!)

by TomlinEra on Oct 1, 2008 11:37 AM EDT reply actions  

“and take this aggression out on the field and not his g/f”

Nice quote!

I’m much less worried about this game than the two last year, honestly. There are plenty of reasons to be worried, but the jaguars have not looked the same this year. Lots of people think we’re hosed because of injuries, but for the first time in a long time I’m optimistic heading into Jacksonville.

We have enough of a running game to do what we usually do against the jags (get stopped) though it might be different this year, and we just need the passing game to get going while all of us pray lessons were learned this past monday. Statwise the jags are just very unimpressive on defense so far.

Our boys in front on defense being out is going to hurt, but the jags have been less impressive in the run than say, baltimore which the run D help up admirably against.

Anyhow, lots of reasons to be worried. The jags have our number, and we haven’t exactly been dominating our competition. But I’m going to be optimistic this week, arians be damned.

by steelguy99 on Oct 1, 2008 11:51 AM EDT reply actions  

what were the alternatives?

I understand wanting to find a gem somewhere, but the parkers or the grants are snatched at the start of the season. Midseason runningbacks are guys like Davenport, or cedric benson or Shaun Alexander- guys who were cut and are still available for good reasons.
But maybe my memory is poor, have there been any unheralded mideason runningback being signed from nowhere that became explosive?

I am also curious to see how Doug Legursky goes over

by vherub on Oct 1, 2008 11:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Plus, a gem by definition is someone who is hard to find and usually is a bit of a surprise. It’s not like there are just a bunch of “Invincible” stories of people one day cutting hair and the next day destroying LBs.

I just hope that Mewelde tears it up this week because I went out on a limb and picked him up for my fantasy team. I’m seeing… 28 points maybe?

Brandona

by PrimantisStillersNAt on Oct 2, 2008 5:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just write arians a memo and you’re golden.

by steelguy99 on Oct 2, 2008 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dear Bruce Arians

We wanted to make you aware of the following plays:
Screen pass
Run outside the tackles
Short pass play

On second thought never mind. What are the odds that Ben can call the plays again.

Thanks
the fans

by SteelerBuddha on Oct 2, 2008 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sean McHugh

Not sure if anyone gave a shout out to Sean McHugh, but not only was I surprised to see him in the game BEFORE Carey Davis got hurt, but he was throwing some punishing lead blocks, Dan Kreider style. I missed it when this guy became a Steeler, but I’m glad he’s around now.

by moonjockey on Oct 1, 2008 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Moore, Russell and Davenport

What I’ve heard is that Moore will start. So it will be between Russell and Davenport as to who is the short-yardage back. I think that Russell is our young guy to look at this week, as others have already stated. Davenport is there for depth and because he knows the team better than anyone else that was available.

As far as anyone else instead of Najeh: who? I can’t think of anyone available with upside. Although we didn’t really know who they were, FWP and Ryan Grant didn’t just come out of nowhere. FWP was there because someone in the Rooney family had seen him in high school and thought he was worth a flyer. Grant was with the Giants last year in the preseason, but the Packers didn’t start him until after a couple of other guys got hurt or failed to show anything. No, I think that right now, Russell is the young guy for us to look at. Najeh is the veteran insurance policy.

But, I really think that Mewelde Moore is going to be the most productive anyway.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 1, 2008 2:23 PM EDT reply actions  

bengals sign benson

HA!!!! Are you kidding me? In the wake of bad character decisions completely taking down what was possibly a long term power in the division, they sign this guy?

BTW Sean Alexander’s available. Lol.

by moonjockey on Oct 1, 2008 3:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Rare moment

I seldom find myself disagreeing blitz, but on this one I do. I think RB is a position where we’ve invested in for the future. We need players to help us get through the next few games, not years.

I like the Najeh pickup but hope he doesn’t start. I’d like that to go to Moore or Russell. If Russell starts and Najeh plays some in a committee like fashion I’d be pretty happy.

The only thing I’d like them to find is a rumbling big back to bruise people. I don’t remember the guys name from Baltimore but holy crap that guy brought pain to the defense. Timmons got in good position and made good initial contact on the goal line but simply didn’t have the mass to take him down.

I guess I just miss having full backs. When playing Madden I’ll often choose to just play as the full back and fill a hole and blow up a linebacker. And with that geek moment, I’m outa here.

Go Cubbies.

by Chicago Steeler on Oct 1, 2008 6:13 PM EDT reply actions  

you guys suck!

he has a personal blog najeh-lovinlife.blogspot.com

my thing is people always believe what they here. the whole dookie thing and then the wife beater thing. come on folks really! now football ok

 

 

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09/09
@ CLE W 34-7 8 43 5.4 13 0 1 17 17.0 17 0 — —
2 09/16 BUF W 26-3 6 46 7.7 13 0 2 11 5.5 9 0 — —
3 09/23 SF W 37-16 5 47 9.4 39T 1 — — — — — — —
4 09/30 @ ARI L 14-21 2 15 7.5 8 0 0 0 — — 0 —

those are davenport stats for the first four games 8 for 43, 6 for 46, 5 for 47, 2 for 15

now compare them to the stats of the running backs now.

these are the stats for the runningbacks on the roster now and you say we don’t need davenport. now ok lets examine some things davenport first game last year 8 carries for 43 yard now compare that to mendenhall and moore total yardage. do the math he’s a better back then those guys and he should start. but he proably won’t

now lets go to teh jacksonville playoff game your saying he only had 25 yds

he also had like 40 yards receiving and two td. running behind a line missing 3 out of the five starters. you guys should take a look at the detail.

 
Player Att Yds Yds/Att Long TD
Willie Parker 66 263 4.0 32 3
Rashard Mendenhall 19 58 3.1 12 0
Carey Davis 10 18 1.8 8 0
Ben Roethlisberger 9 26 2.9 17 0
Mewelde Moore 9 19 2.1 6 0
Byron Leftwich 2 0 0.0 0 0
Santonio Holmes 1 10 10.0 10 0

by Really you guys! on Oct 1, 2008 11:56 PM EDT reply actions  

interesting

This looks to be copied and pasted from some other location on the site. It even has the same errors!

Brandona

by PrimantisStillersNAt on Oct 2, 2008 5:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

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