Next Week For Steelers Might Be Revealing
by Michael Bean on Oct 27, 2008 10:10 AM EDT
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PrintJust a quick thought after this game: I'm officially viewing this upcoming MNF football game on the road against the Washington Redskins as a turning point type game. We win, I still like our chances to be in meaningful games in the AFC playoffs that we feel we should win. We lose this one, we could be headed for a downward spiral of sorts. A spiral that may not lead to catastrophe - it still will be hard for us to miss the playoffs in my opinion, unless something even more drastic happened on the injury front. But we could be headed towards a second straight uninspiring conclusion to the season if we don't continue to search for new ways to be effective on offense and if certain things don't break our way.
Just a hunch here. Well get into the more formal breakdowns of our game with Washington throughout the week. But I'll say it now. This next Monday is going to tell us plenty about how resilient we are, whether our offense is worth believing in, even on a toned down level, and whether we have the mental toughness to regroup and travel to play a Washington defense that is pretty damn impressive. If we can, we can send send home Chicken Little once more, as next week should be much like the types of games we've struggled with in 2006-2008.
What do you see playing out? Consider this your early week prognostication outlet for our next game, and for that matter, the next few games.
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Wake up call for the coaching staff
The players have been doing a great job of making chicken salad out of chicken shit for weeks now. And the coaches have been rolling the dice, holding key players out who have been nicked and also being stingy in spreading the wealth around. This going to have to change. The following things will have to happen if we are to be successful next week (and we should be successful even though the Skins are definitely pointing to this game, the team has some chemistry issues that should hurt them in a gut check type situation such as this).
1. Use all the bullets, arrows, whatever that you have. Now we’re running Mewelde until the wheels come off. Time for FWP to come back, and be judicious in how you use him. Gary Russell had one carry for nine yards and was never seen again. Instead of gradually working Sweed into the offense, you don’t dress him for most of the season, then you expect him to perfrom lights out against the Super Bowl champs. This is more of a problem with the offense. While some of the defensive back ups aren’t that good, at least they are getting the reps they need to contribute when they must, C’mon Bruce, get your head out of your ass! We are in an all hands situation.
2. I couldn’t believe Ben sitting in the pocket expecting to have five seconds or more to find a receiver at the end of the game. Maybe they need to sit him and Bruce down with LeBeau and have him explain why no defense worth their salt is gonna let him do that in that situation.
3. He didn’t have that bad a game, but if you had taken a vote among the regulars around here about six months ago the consensus would be that Willie Colon would have his clock cleaned in this particular game. Can’t handle the speed rush, nothing else need be said, Jason Taylor next week.
4. We don’t use him in short yardage, and he’s a joke returning kickoffs. Why is Dookie still here?
5. Don’t try to whistle your way through the dark on this one Mike, get a long snapper, get Stapleton to do double duty. It wasn’t your fault but we in essence lost this game on a special teams break down. Don’t try to sandlot your way our of it.
6. The injury bug is decimating the defensive secondary. Let Anthony Smith out of the doghouse and resign Mundy at the first opportunity.
7. Steeler fans, take a valium. wash it down with your favorite beverage and chill. This team has both talent and character. We blew an opportunity, but we are light years away from panic button time.
by Ivan Cole (RickVa) on Oct 27, 2008 1:28 PM EDT reply actions
Blitz...
…you, O.K?
After hanging your moons out on the Giant blog this week with the Roethlisberger/Manning deal, I figured you might be hospitalized from the abuse.
I like that over on the Giants blog they are citing this game as definitive proof that Eli is in fact better than Ben. No one will argue that Ben was a better QB this Sunday, but honestly guys…
From BigBlueView:
Despite what many may say. They are both young solid QB’s. Ben with the edge b/c of his career stats. But make no mistake about it. The best is yet to come with Eli.
It’s pretty cool watching this era’s best QB draft lead their teams to the upper echelon of the NFL.
by ProudYankee on Oct 28, 2008 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Next week will be revealing
I agree with that. This team is deep in talent, and I’ve been impressed with the way several non-starters are stepping up. I’m especially impressed with the defense as a whole. New York didn’t beat us so much as we handed them the game.
What I don’t get is why we seem to abandon offensive game plans that appear to be working. Quick routes and off-tackle runs were moving the ball against the Giants. But for some reason, we switch to long bombs (with Ben lingering in the pocket) and running inside.
We can’t ride the backs of our defense through the NFC—let alone to the playoffs. What’s more, we shouldn’t have to—even with the players remaining on offense.
At least the defense was astounding to watch most of the game
I have to travel to watch games, since I only get ABC and CBS in the boonies where I live (and will only get CBS and NBC when they go all digital in Feb(??), so I wasnt able to join the commentaries on the live threads.
The defense was just lights out- the only big D mistake was the touchdown allowed by Gay when Toomer torched him. I don’t understand why Toomer was allowed to be single covered by Gay though??
It was frustrating to watch Ben though- he didn’t seem like himself much at all. Where was the scrambling? Hate to say it, but he looked rather Neil O’Donnell ish out there yesterday with the sacks, knock downs and the cinder block running shoes.
plus
It was 4th and 6. They were probably jumping all the short routes worrying about that more than the deep ball. Good play call by the OC of the Giants.
by Chicago Steeler on Oct 27, 2008 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Optimistic Thoughts
I’m Mr. Opposite, so amid all the panic, here’s some optimism. I still think the Giants are a bit overrated, but if they truly are the best team the league has to offer, then we can win the Super Bowl with what we have. I mean, we barely lost a game where we were -4 in turnovers and had a special teams safety. Our defense absolutely dominated the most efficient offense in the league (according to FO), and I’ll finally give them credit for being one of the best defenses in the NFL. The Giants put up 6 points on 3 straight drives that started at the PIT 42, 19, 29. They needed a deep pass on 4th down against our #4 CB to get another 3 points. Their only TD came on a 53 yard drive after our defense had been on the field for over 30 minutes. On offense, Nate Washington completely shredded their secondary 3 seperate times, only to have one come back because of a holding call and another one go incomplete because Ben underthrew him by 20 yards. The line had their best performance of the year, IMO, dealing with blitzers and giving Ben time to get the ball out (that he promptly wasted). Our 3rd and 4th string RB’s averaged 4.6 YPC against a defense that isn’t bad against the run.
Ben and Arians (and bad luck) are the reasons we lost this game. I don’t know why Ben played so poorly. He was inaccurate, as he was against Cinci. I couldn’t see the field, but several times he took a 3 step drop and held onto the ball. Other times, he took a normal drop, pumped once or twice, then got hit. Hopefully the he and coaching staff will use this game as they did the Eagles game – as a tool to learn how to get better on offense. We know that Ben usually looks better than this, so hopefully he can get over his funk in the next few weeks. Practicing consistenly would help. I have no such hope for Arians, so hopefully he’ll get fired in the next few weeks.
It’s been pretty obvious how much better we are at running out of the spread than out of power formations. I think we might as well run a 3WR/TE/RB formation most of the time and put the 3 TE looks to rest. If we’re running efficiently, it will slow down the pass rush and open up the passing game. As a lot of college teams have shown, we can still be a running team while using the spread. Parker and Moore have both looked great in it at times, and Mendenhall ran it in college.
Anyway, I like our chances against any team if over 60% of our starters are on the field.
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Bonus Nugget:
Did anyone else hear the announcers call Bruce Arians “one of the best coordinators in the NFL”, citing how well he uses different offensive packages? Someone please post a YouTube video that dubs that sound clip over and over with some lowlights from the Eagles game. I’ll send you dollar in the mail.
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Heh- I mentioned this in another thread
that was the dumbest thing I ever heard Troy Aikman say. Except possibly the nugget that made the Peter King column:
“Postscript: I don’t know who was doing the Giants-Steelers on the radio Sunday, but I caught some of the fourth quarter in the car in Dallas. And the play-by-play guy informed his listeners that the Giants had won five of the previous seven meetings in Pittsburgh. That, quite possibly, was the most meaningless statistic ever announced on a radio broadcast of a game, seeing that every starting player in Sunday’s game was not alive for six of those seven meetings.”
Some interesting questions coming to the fore...
Mewelde Moore has a better rushing average this season (5.0 – 4.0) in approximately the same number of carries as Parker, plus he is a factor in the passing game.
Nate Washington has a better YPC average than Santonio Holmes this season (18 – 16.4) and is much lower maintenance.
How many clunkers does Roethlisberger get before Leftwich gets a chance to compete for the starting role? Ben is in the bottom half of starting NFL QBs this season in every department so far.
by robert ethan on Oct 27, 2008 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice sample size...
“How many clunkers does Roethlisberger get before Leftwich gets a chance to compete for the starting role” is not “Level-headed thinking.” .
statistics really dont mean anything b/c if this was true every nfl game would be so easily predictable. Just try to lay down a pick for every game next week with or without the point spreads just going by statistics and you will fall directly on your face.
by bradyquinnsclipboard on Oct 27, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
oh and
byron leftwich?!?!?! have you been living in a hole?
by bradyquinnsclipboard on Oct 27, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Nate’s YPC just means he’s fast and all he can do is catch the deep ball against bad secondaries. I’m not complaining, but he’s not as good as Holmes. Holmes is the quick slant guy that would have helped some in this game. And please stop talking about bringing in Leftwich. You want a sitting duck QB with the slowest release in the NFL going in with Max Starks and Willie Colon at OT? Ben had a bad game. Big deal.
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Ben was not great
in that game. It was one of his worst performances in the pros. A really stupid pic, a bunch of missed throws and a maddening penchant to wait too long in the pocket.
But you can’t lay this game entirely on his head.
He made some great throws as well. He had us in the game until the the very end of the fourth quarter.
Most importantly,You also have to remember that the guy was hit 21 times during the game. 21 times is more times than Moore ran the ball. 21 times is probably more times than Manning has been hit all season. Being hit 21 times would put Tom Brady in coma. For the love of Cliff Stoudt, Ben is on pace to set the single season Steeler sack record – and that number will probably be a small fraction of the total times he’s been leveled but not sacked or managed (somehow) to shrug off a 300 pound lineman. Is some of that on him. Yes. But lets share the blame.
The o-line only looked good in comparison last week. A good o-line does not let the QB get hit 21 times. Period.
So is too much to ask for an OC that recognizes a problem after it repeats 40 to 50 times?
The play calling was dreadful.
No screens, no slants, no draws (remember the draw?), no pitches, no trick plays, nothing that would make a guy think that there might be the remotest of possibilities that he should do anything but run at the QB full speed.
Lets recognize collectively recognize that Ben has a golden arm, and serious stones.
Now all we need is an OC with brains or he will finish this season in a hospital bed.
by SteelerBuddha on Oct 28, 2008 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I really think Ben was the biggest goat of the game, unless it was Arians. He had Nate deep three time and threw awful deep balls on two of them, even though Nate adjusted to the one. The only good pass he threw all day was the TD that was called back. And I really think the line did it’s job. There were a ton of blitzes where he held onto the ball for 3-4 seconds. Like I said elsewhere, it could have been Ben, Arians, or the WR’s, but it’s not the OL’s fault that he gets hit in 4 seconds on a blitz. I’m not saying they’re a good OL, but they gave him plenty of time to get the ball out, with 1 or 2 exceptions, not 21.
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They ran a screen to Moore once. It was wide open but Ben threw a terrible pass and it went incomplete. There were numerous slants. CBs were all over them. One to Nate was juggled for an INT. There was one draw that was stuffed, but when your typical down and distance is 3rd and I-80 you’re not going to run too many draws. And if we have to rely on a double reverse hook and lateral to score points, then maybe our offense just isn’t that good?
Haven't seen Leftwich for awhile..
..but it’s hard to imagine that his release is slower than Ben’s has been much of this season. I don’t see a huge difference between the two.
Yeah, there isn’t any difference between Ben Roethlisberger, who has had pretty much the best start to a career for a QB and than almost any other, won a Super Bowl and has gone to the pro-bowl than Byron Leftwich, who got cut from the Jaguars for a 30 year old backup QB named David Garrard.
No difference whatsoever.
Leftwich had a pretty good start to his career..
He just wasn’t playing on as strong a team at the time. From an individual statistical point of view, I don’t think there was a huge difference between Lefty’s first three NFL seasons and Roethlisberger’s.
by robert ethan on Oct 27, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
...first 3 seasons...
…Roethlisberger had 3 more starts, 8 more TD passes, 2 more picks. Comp % and overall rating for that period was fairly close between the two. Leftwich missed major portions of the following two seasons due to injury, and Garrard played exceptionally well in his absence.
Since Garrard took over as the starter, his numbers have been as good as Ben’s.
by robert ethan on Oct 27, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
No
Go recheck your stats they will show that Leftwich’s highest completion percentage was 60.5 and his highest YPA was 7.0 yards.
Ben’s lowest completion percentage was 59.7 and his lowest YPA was 7.5
Not even close. Even when Ben almost killed himself, had an emergency apendectomy, and multiple concussions he was at his worst what Leftwich was at his best.
Try again.
Myehhh...
They are both big, strong armed, former MAC QBs who like to stand in as long as possible and throw the bomb. Both of them have missed a lot of playing time due to injury. I think if their situations were reversed when they first came into the league, their careers could be as well.
by robert ethan on Oct 27, 2008 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s meaningless though. They have developed in different ways since they’ve been drafted. They may have been similar prospects at some point, but now there is no doubt that Ben is much better.
Having said that, I think Ben’s mobility, accuracy, and noticeably quicker release set him apart from Leftwich.
Well, for you "there is no doubt Ben is much better"...
I’d like to see a bit more of Byron before coming to that conclusion.
by robert ethan on Oct 27, 2008 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Leftwich would be dead by now if he started the year
Imagine him stuck in cement in the pocket w/ the steelers offensive line.
by bradyquinnsclipboard on Oct 27, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Ben’s release isn’t slow, it’s his decision making right now. It’s never good when he starts patting the ball.
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Well, I'm considering "release" to be the time it takes to get rid of the ball..
…for whatever reasons.
by robert ethan on Oct 27, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Leftwich has the largest windup ever
I’m not going to bash the guy, but he signed with the steelers at the league minimum for a reason = NO ONE ELSE WANTED HIM!
by bradyquinnsclipboard on Oct 27, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, so many comments are really negative
It must be “Lick your Wounds Day”, but up until the last 4 drives, I was feeling nothing but pride in our guys playing smashmouth football, especially with mostly backups across the board. Keeping it close. Protecting the lead. Then it felt like everyone started running out of gas.
Back on topic, I do agree next week will be a gut check for our guys. I’m waiting to see who is actually going to play (Clark’s shoulder, FWP’s knee, Santonio’s situation, etc…) before setting my mental expectation for the next game. A convincing win with most of our starters, or a valiant losing effort by mostly backups would lead me to believe that we are NOT in a downward spiral, but the spanking in Philly and vs. Giants are going to give the elite teams a blueprint on shutting down our offense until we prove otherwise.
And I do agree with alot of you that the play calling is inconsistent (yes, I’m being nice).
Keeping it close?
That was the problem! We were keeping it close by NOT SCORING. Fantastic job protecting the lead too. That’s something Arians and Tomlin have been terrible with.
I can't believe you guys blew that game
I was rooting for you guys and IMO, the long snapper going down was the difference, the snap through the endzone really switched momentum big time.
Don’t blow it next week, the Skins must go down!
In Romo we Trust
I see us coming back strong
We are on the edge of a complete meltdown. Lots of outside distractions combined with a hell of a lot of injuries are taking their toll on us.
I see us beating the Redskins fairly easily. Look at their team as a whole. Whats their main threat? Portis……well, we know we can stop the run (we stopped a 270 pound RB on several 3rd and shorts as well as several 4th and shorts, I mean, how awesome was that goaline stand?). I am not so worried about Portis. If there is anything that scares me its their QB. We have a habit of making average QBs (which is what Campbell is) look good. Still though, I think we can handle this team.
And let me state that I STILL think we are a Super Bowl team (Even the guys on Pardon the Interruption still believe the Giants-Steelers Super Bowl is highly possible).
-We have a World Champion defensive obviously. The amazing thing about it is even if we don’t have all our starters it is still Super Bowl quality.
-We have a pro-bowl QB. True he had a bad game (real bad) but he is still a great QB. There are instances where he holds on to the ball too long (3 of the 5 sacks yesterday for example) but thats Ben. He hurts us sometimes but more often then not he wins for us.
-Despite what most people think, including the so called “experts” our O-line is not that bad. They have done a great job in run blocking so far this year. The pass protection is obviously questionable but a lot of the sacks have been on Ben. For most of the Giants game they were giving him 4 to 5 seconds to throw (thats impressive). Last week against the Bengals been had all day to throw. I think Starks and Stapelton (especially the later) have done well and possibly exceeded those who started ahead of them. I haven’t been crazy disappointed with our O-line as of late and I believe they do enough that will allow this team to get another ring.
-Except for a few hiccups our Special Teams has done well. Coverage has been better for the most part and our kicks and punts are solid. That being said, Warren and Berger get well soon, we need you. One more thing about Berger, hasn’t he done a good job? I think so. He came on injured yesterday and punted it 50 yards! 50!….with an injury, I was about to call him a brave punter……about to…..but then again he is a punter.
The two main things that get in our way of a potential Ring is the aforementioned “meltdown” and Bruce Arians……………..Bruce, I have given you chances but you continue to disappoint us, correct it or get out.
Don't sleep on Jason Campbell
He is a good QB. The Skins have receivers that could give our DBs nightmares. To stop them we are going to have to play coverages and make tackles after the catch. Not an easy task with the waterbugs that Washington has.
The Steelers D is not championship caliber without Ryan Clark. He is the glue that holds the secondary together. I would argue that he has a bigger impact on the overall play of the defense than Polamalu. I hope he doesn’t miss too much time.
Clark has a separated shoulder
Hopes to return for Monday night, but will definitely return the week after. I think that Anthony Smith and Tyrone Carter are experienced backups that can pick up the slack.
And Ryan Clark is no Chris Hope.
by bradyquinnsclipboard on Oct 28, 2008 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
HERE HERE
… good points shleeve. I just wanna know why Robert Ethan says he’s a Steeler fan? Is it me or this guy a troll n in Black and Gold colors? Any fool with half a brain knows that Big Ben is way better than Leftwich. Its already bad enough we lost a game we shouldnt have, but to call for the head of our PRO Bowl QB is retarded! Next week when we beat Washington, and we will beat them, this fool will be still finding a way to put down the team.
Focus on the division first
Losing to the Giants really doesnt mean much in the grand scheme of things b/c its not a division game or even a conference game. The Steelers played shitty and still almost pulled out the win. If you told me that the Giants would have zero turnovers and Ben would throw 4 picks, and the Steelers would lose only 21-14 before the game I would laugh directly in your face.
Bottom line…the Giants offensive line is sick.
As we all know, the Steelers have an offense that can get hot real fast, and an awesome defense with surprising depth at every position (including d-line and secondary!) As much as anyone wants to talk negatively about Anthony Smith, Tyrone Carter, and even Deshea Townsend all of these guys have experience. I cant say enough about the backup d-linemen as well.
What sucked the most about Sunday was that both the Browns and Ravens won their games. But, beating each team in the division one time already puts the Steelers in a great position. With 5 wins already, the focus has to be beating down the division opponents one more time. That would automatically put the Steelers at 9 wins. A few garbage wins here and there the Steelers could be looking at an 11 win season. Thats automatic playoff birth.
The AFC is extremely weak right now. I welcome the Patriots (w/ Cassel), the Titans (w/
Collins), the Ravens (w/Flacco), the Bills (w/ Edwards), and whoever wins by default in the AFC west (hopefully Broncos w/ their suspect D).
by bradyquinnsclipboard on Oct 27, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions
11-5?
Seriously? Beating everyone in the division one more time only gives us 8 wins. And there will be no “garbage wins” the rest of the way. Every game will be a tooth and nail brawl. This team hasn’t shown the ability to beat good teams in close games, and that’s what they’ll have to do from here on out.
Beating Baltimore at home won’t be an easy task either. We haven’t won there in a while.
Already added the Texans win plus the 4 remaining games against the AFC North
I have full confidence that the Steelers can beat the Patriots, and they have the ability to beat any team they face here on out. Unless you think the Steelers are going to lose the rest of the games outside the division?
I was not born yesterday, I understand every NFL game is difficult to win no matter how good/bad your opponent happens to be. I’m just saying the Steelers need to take care of their division and a few wins (which the steelers are fully capable of).
by bradyquinnsclipboard on Oct 28, 2008 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean, it's only the Redskins.
I pledge that if the Steelers beat the Redskins I will knee Blitzburgh in the ballsack.
That is all.
Why are your glasses so rosy?
I can’t understand the optimism on this board. The Steelers give a game away at home and everyone says “well at least it was close.” Yeah, that’s what losers always say.
Tell me 1 good team the Steelers have beat in Tomlin’s tenure. They haven’t won a single game against a playoff opponent outside of the Seahawks who are terrible on the east coast.
Bottom line, the Steelers are a mediocre team that excels against poor competition and can’t beat good teams. It frustrates me to no end. I hope they prove me wrong, but I fear they won’t.
True. The steelers are screwed, we should pretty much give up hope for this season and think about next year, or maybe even 5 years down the road.
I find that going into every game with a losing attitude always improves my chances at winning. First thing I do when I sit down at a job interview is say that I think I’m underqualified and that I don’t deserve a chance. I always get the job.
Being a spectator affords you the ability to be REALISTIC. Until I see the Steelers beat a good team, which they haven’t done in TWO YEARS, I’m not going to hold out much hope for their chances at any kind of playoff run. They look like a team that’s a year or two away from contending. With their age at key positions, that is not a good thing.
Reasons for optimism
I share your frustration and few have been touting Arians’ incompetance louder or longer than I have. However, as I mentioned above, the defense largely shut down what Football Outsiders has said was the most efficient offense (adjusted for opponents) in the first 6-7 games of the season. Also, we have been very unlucky up to this point with injuries, etc, and we’re still 5-2. I mean the biggest play of the game was a bad snap from our emergency long snapper! If the injuries ever start to slow down a little, and Ben, the WR’s, and the coaching staff learn ANYTHING from games like this, I think we still have as good a shot as anyone.
Every team has holes. You saw how bad the Giants secondary looked on the deep balls. If we don’t turn the ball over 5 times against the Titans, they’ll have an awfully hard time beating us with their rushing game. Buffalo’s defense won’t be able to kill Ben like the Eagles and Giants. The Pats can’t beat half decent teams. San Diego has been prolific at losing games. Denver may have the worst defense I’ve ever seen on a winning team. Who in the AFC would be a prohibitive favorite over us?
A week ago everyone was optimistic. Why should a tough, close game against the consensus #1 or #2 best team in the league in which we got a couple bad breaks make us completely downtrodden? We already knew Arians sucks and would cost us a few more games. We knew that we can still succeed against less than elite pass rushes. On offense, this game reinforced what we already knew, although it wasn’t nearly as bad as the Philly game. What we didn’t know was how the defense would respond against one of the most efficient offenses in the league, and they passed that test in my book.
From here on out, we don’t face any teams that get to the QB as well as the Eagles or Giants. 10-6 (5-4 the rest of the way) probably makes the playoffs in the AFC, and who knows what will happen if we get there? This game was disappointing for sure, but it’s no disaster.
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Why be optimistic?
We are 5-2, leading the division.
We have a Pro-Bowl QB
We have the a great defense with some of the most dangerous LBs I’ve seen in awhile.
We have Hines Ward knocking LBs out for the year (HES A RECEIVER!)
We have backups or are doing a remarkable job.
Our team is owned by the Rooneys! They have 5 Super Bowls, they know what they are doing.
We have Troy Polamalu!
We are the STEELERS!
that is why we are optimistic.
Reality
Ben and B.A. should get most of the blame for this loss. ben is just holding on to the ball way too much. B.A,, again bad play calling. and yes screens would have help neutralize that Giant pass rush. But you can’t really hate on the offensive line because considering what we have to work with and against the superbowl champions we did a darn good job.
I also,think throwing deep and often is the right formula against these NFC east teams none of them really have demonstrated any true ability to comeback from behind. Getting strong early leads may prove to be tremendously advantageous.
And like Rick Va said, the offensive personnell needs to be rotated more often similar to the wat the defense is. That give our young guys vital game experience and confidence.
heath
i cant help but notice that a pass to heath miller is rarely dropped, if we arent gonna mix in some screens or anything why not utilize him more, I may not remember correctly but it seems like last week was the most he has been involved all season
by indianasteelers on Oct 29, 2008 4:34 PM EDT reply actions
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