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Steelers Individual Performance Review: The Quarterbacks

We've got two weeks until the Steelers next take the field against the Cincinnati Bengals. When they do, there will be no more weeks off until (hopefully) late January. So what better time than now to recap how each and everyone of our guys has played thus far through 5 weeks. Let's break it down by position, starting with the quarterbacks. Starting there makes sense for logical reasons, but I also think it's appropriate that we shower Ben with praise after his gutty performances the last two weeks. After all, much of our attention has been directed towards the offensive line, Bruce Arians, the surprising Mewelde Moore, and the animalistic tendencies of LaMarr Woodley and James Harrison.

Your turn in the spotlight Ben.

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BEN ROETHLISBERGER:


PassingRushingSacks
GRatingCompAttPctYdsY/GY/ATDINTRushYdsY/GAvgTDSackYdsL
2008 - Ben Roethlisberger 5 95.7 79 124 63.7 947 189.4 7.6 7 3 11 28 5.6 2.5 0 18 111

 

Really? A 95.7 rating and a respectable 7.6 YPA given all the protection problems he's been forced to deal with in Weeks 2-4? That's impressive and it's a testament to Ben's ability to will himself and his team to making plays and victory. It's also proof of his underrated accuracy. Ben's hulking frame and often times off balance deliveries shift the focus away from his uncanny ability to fit passes into very small windows. He's not always perfect, but more often than not, he's delivering imminently catchable passes from all different arm angles. He's one of only a few in this league who can legitimately lay claim to this unique and invaluable trait.

As Jacksonville Jaguars QB David Garrard said:

"I've never seen something like that before in that situation, with the game on the line, guys pulling him to the ground and he throws it 20 yards downfield, on the money.''

I realize I didn't properly point out just how remarkable AND clutch that play was. If you had forgotten, we were faced with a 3rd and 7 from the Jags 31. I'm not sure we knew it at the time, but apparently Jeff Reed wasn't available to kick there, making that conversion all the more enormous. Garrard's right though. That's an unphatomably tough throw to make over the middle of the field where QBs are taught not to serve one up off your back foot. Well, that's if you don't have deceptively amazing upper and lower body strength, like Ben. What a performance, and what an addition to his growing collection of 4th quarter game winning drives. As has been said before here on BTSC, Roethlisberger is a once in 20-30 years type quarterback.

Moving forward into the meat of the season, Ben must continue to study defenses so that he can do whatever possible to help call out correct protection assignments at the line of scrimmage. If we're going to go no-huddle a bit more, which I think we wiil, he must figure out how to balance being in the no-huddle and not rushing, hopefully finding a perfect tempo that keeps his teammates in rhythm and comfortable but defenders off guard.

There are also instances on occasion where he could just throw it away. I don't think any of us would want him to develop some sort of Pavlovian response to pressure where he immediately shuts down any chance to making a play, but there are occasionally times when that's necessary. Field position, ball security, and most importantly, self-preservation, all make doing this important for Ben.

Let me throw one final thing out there, probably over-stepping my bounds as a non-participant in the NFL. If Ben continues to be subjected to play calling that he finds poor, I hope he lets his voice be heard and basically shoves Arians aside with his big $100+ million dollar backside. Ben ain't going anywhere, so if he truly feels strongly about trying something, I hope he takes charge. Ben's a great teammate and understands the importance of hierarchy, but if I had to guess, the Tom Brady's, Peyton Manning's, and Drew Brees' of the league have a BIG say in what the scheme will be each week. Again, just a guess, but my point is I love Ben's competitive fire, and if he sees something out there in the heat of the battle, speak up! Then carry that over to the film room the following week.

I wrote this earlier this summer, about Ben's likely statistical output in 2008:

2007 Season:

264 completions, 404 attempts, 65.3%, 3154 yards, 32 TDs, 11 INTs

I still smile when I see Ben's 2007 line. That's so freakin' outstanding. Let's take a step back though and realize that, at least statistically, last year could be the greatest statistical year Ben Roethlisberger will ever have as a professional. Yes, he will throw for more than 3154 yards at some point in his career; and I wouldn't wager against him ever having a 30+ TD season before he hangs it up. But nevertheless, when you look at the season as a package, then factor in the spotty running game he had in certain situations, PLUS the porous offensive line, you should then be able to appreciate all that he was able to accomplish statistically. That's so few mistakes for how pressured he was last year.

Looks like the numbers will indeed drop this year, but that means next to nothing. He's as good as he was in his best moments last year, and he's proven capable of willing the team to victory late in the game in back-to-back weeks against very tough opponents. If you watch the games, you know his importance to our football team, even if it doesn't show up to the fantasy obsessed dork fan. All that said, he'll still have some big games, like the one he had last night.

Finally, let's end with ball protection. Remember how we used to worry ourselves sick in 2006 about Ben and turnovers? There were extenuating circumstances of course that year, but even so, the improvement has been so marked that it's really a non-issue for this team. There is a possibility Ben's being too careful with the ball and not unloading the ball and trusting his progressions and reads but I think generally it's a matter of him just maturing and understanding the importance of minimizing cheap opportunities for your opponent. Simply put, he's growing into an elite QB in this league, and consistent ball protection is a prerequisite for admission to the fraternity. The low INT numbers are a sight to behold, but the truly astonishing achievement has been the lack of lost fumbles since the Philadelphia game. He keeps taking a beating, yet manages to hold the ball. We don't see the 3 fumble type games that the Kurt Warner's and Drew Brees' have, and that's immesurably important to this year's football team.

I say he's worth every last penny. Hell, I'd say we got a bargain at $100+ million.

 

BYRON LEFTWICH:

You are a Steelers player now, so I de facto like you Byron, but let's all just hope you ingratiate yourself with the league by being a great teammate and ready backup so that you can compete for a starting gig next year in a market like Detroit. Byron did see time against Houston, but the game was well out of reach and we were content just running on 1st and 2nd down before attempting an unimaginative 3-step drop pass attempt on 3rd down. 

That reminds me, our offense totally sputtered after Ben was yanked in Week 1 until the 1st half of last night's game. I wrote at the time that I wasn't thrilled to completely put on the brakes. I cited the voodu 'momentum' term at the time, and was perhaps appropriately questioned by those who thought that was nonsense. Could just be Houston's defense was terrible or any number of things, but I think after nearly a year and a half of watching Arians and this offense, it's clear that we have to do everything in our power to keep whatever flow we may establish going. Last night was another great example. We went away from much of what was succesful in the first half after intermission and stalled for the better part of the game's second half, until finally sensing the urgency of the moment and stringing together a few productive drives. If it means scoring a TD against a unsuspecting opponent (ahem, that means you Cincy and Cleveland), so be it in my book. That's my story and I'm sticking with it.

Last thing. If the unthinkable were to happen and Ben got hurt, I think Dennis Dixon would be a better option at QB. Think we have pass protection problems now? Imagine Leftwich lumbering around and winding up in the pocket. Ay gavult. No thanks. I'd rather us deploy something like what Miami's doing and let the quartet of Dennis Dixon, FWP, Mewelde Moore and Hines Ward figure out ways to eek the ball down the field. Whatever it takes. We must not blow the (what I think will be, anyway) golden opportunities to win a 6th ring provided by our defense this year. Let's just hope this is the last we speak of such things.

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I like the last comment

the one concerning our Defense. Basically, all our offense should do is score a decent amount of points and protect the ball. Our Defense is championship caliber without a doubt and can lead us to a 6th ring provided our O does the aforementioned.

by shleeve on Oct 7, 2008 3:09 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

defense wins championships!

Cliched, but true. Our defense is going to keep us in it till the very end. Will we deliver? I’m just so psyched that I think we’ll actually have a chance to find out.

by Blitzburgh on Oct 7, 2008 3:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

can we just agree

that the fans of Pittsburgh need to write thank you cards and send gift baskets to LeBeau every week? How good is that guy? While idiots like me yell at the TV and demand blitzes on every play, LeBeau has really created a defense that plays brutal and SMART. Can you think of the long plays we have given up this year? Bend but don’t break, and then break the other guy down. Its been fun to watch them play.

by SteelerBuddha on Oct 7, 2008 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

mmm

We really don’t give up long plays. I’m never worried that big offenses like Philly or Dallas are going to light us up. I think you have to credit Tomlin with some of the change in philosophy as well – we used to be great against the run and mediocre against the pass. Now we’re very good against both, and we don’t let up big plays.

charity standing orders

by BadMaafala on Oct 7, 2008 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

true dat

I think we are seeing some of Coach T’s stamp on an already great defense. With the exception of a couple of 3 and very longs that we gave up this year, I think our situational defense has been brilliant.

by SteelerBuddha on Oct 7, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m trying not to think about last year where were 4-1 going into the bye week…

I do honestly think we’re a much better team this year though.

by steelguy99 on Oct 7, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Your right about Lefwich

I think Dixon would be a better #2. Ive been a Leftwich hater for years, and now hes a Steeler…..shoot me. I would rather have Dixon making plays running around than Leftwich with his abnormally slow release. His whole game just looks slow.

by SteelerDomination on Oct 7, 2008 3:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i'd prefer Dixon as the #2 as well

Plus then you can have him dressed and available for certain packages or plays. If God forbid Ben goes down for an extended period of time you have Byron available.

by schnifin on Oct 7, 2008 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dixon

I have to say I agree with you about Dixon being a better option at #2. During PreSeason I watched them both the last several games and Leftwich just did not give me a good feeling everytime he walked in. He looked hurried and very uncomposed. Dixon on the other hand made a number of very good reads, stayed poised and what the kid can do with his feet more then makes up for his lack of experience IMO. I personally feel we are leaving a weapon off the field by not utilizing him and making teams prepare for him. Kind of like how we were not utilizing Moore thru the first four games.

Bring him on if the unthinkable happens and leave Leftwich on the bench till Charlie gets healthy.

by BlkNGold on Oct 7, 2008 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Byron vs. Dixon

I can’t blame them for signing Byron and putting him at #2. I’d rather not put pressure on Dixon right away. He looks like like a pretty darn good backup, though, and I hope he gets a real chance as the #2 next year. We need to inflate his trade value while we can.

charity standing orders

by BadMaafala on Oct 7, 2008 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree

Dixon looked great in the pre-season. My sense is that if he got in he would have to be coached much in the same way that Ben was for his first two years in the league. 12-20 throws a game, play it safe. The advantage is, that this guy is DANGEROUS outside the pocket, just like Ben when he came in to the league. Let teams attack with an all out blitz and find him streaking down the sideline for 50 yards.

by SteelerBuddha on Oct 7, 2008 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dixon vs. Leftwich

I agree with those that prefer Dixon. For one thing, I always felt confident when Batch came in to replace Ben if needed. But, with Leftwich, I don’t feel the same confidence. I would rather have a more mobile QB in Dixon, even if he is a rookie. Just keep the offense simple, and have Dixon run some spread option, maybe even a little run and shoot with Moore and Miller as the 4th and 5th receivers.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 7, 2008 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

7

Best QB in the league not named Brady or Manning. Best Steelers QB not named Bradshaw. Behind the Steelers O line I would take Ben before Brady or Manning so we have the best QB in the NFL for this team.
The guy is resilient and has an uncanny knack for making a play. Sort of reminds me of Elway. With 7 in the game the Steelers are never out of it. He is a leader.

When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen

by 5020 on Oct 7, 2008 10:09 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm glad you said Elway

Ben is Elway reincarnated. Did a quick wiki search on Elway, he is the most sacked quarterback ever… sound familiar? Interesting that Ben looked up to Elway growing up. I think we can stop talking about him EVER throwing the ball away, its not in his DNA.

Also, Ben runs out of the pocket many times when he doesn’t have to because he likes throwing the ball from non-traditional positions. Watch the fade to Hines, he throws it off his back-foot. There’s no reason to, but its comfortable for him. I think Ben is a quarterback on the football field who’s greatly influenced by his basketball skills

by FireAriansNow on Oct 7, 2008 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

I’ve always thought he was like Elway, albeit a 21st century version, aka bigger, faster, and stronger.

by TheMostViolentTeam on Oct 7, 2008 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and less annoying.

...die trying

by agentorange on Oct 7, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

love your moniker…

When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen

by 5020 on Oct 7, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What would Ben do with a good OL and OC? He’s got great accuracy and arm strength and he makes good decisions with the ball. His one glaring flaw at this point in his career is holding onto the ball too long. We can argue about Ben vs. Manning, but last year and so far this year, Ben has been the better QB. Manning is hurting because of OL issues. Forgive me if I don’t give him much sympathy.

charity standing orders

by BadMaafala on Oct 7, 2008 10:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i’ve often asked myself this very thing. if ben had the patriots offensive line, his numbers would be unbelievable.

...die trying

by agentorange on Oct 7, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The pats? Try the cowboys, Romo throws footballs from his smoking chair.

by steelguy99 on Oct 7, 2008 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Leadership

is what separates the successful pro QBs from the avg. ones. It is something I feel is not taught enough in the college ranks or not looked at enough in the draft. You look at all the QBs in the Hall. Bradshaw, Montana, Elway, Marino, Fouts, Staubach, etc. They were all leaders. The team has to believe that no matter what the situation is the QB can lead them to victory. You know the Colts and Pats offensive players believe that when the game is on the line, Manning or Brady can pull off the victory. That belief is what makes a lineman block an extra second. It’s what makes a RB break an extra tackle and what makes the receiver make that extra move to get open. Belief in the QB. Ben has that quality. This is why we’ve been more successful at these close games than in the past. Everyone, including the D, knows that Ben can pull of a victory if you give him a chance. And everyone fights to give Ben that extra chance. It is a very underrated quality in a QB but, to me, the most important. We haven’t had that type of leadership behind center in more than 20yrs. and damnit it’s nice to have it now.

by woody71 on Oct 7, 2008 12:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maturity

is the first step towards true leadership, and is something Ben seems to be embracing more and more as he continues to win us games. I love how in his interviews lately he is quick to praise teammates on both sides of the ball when it would be easy to claim personal glory. He was born with the talent, but has had to learn the rest, and seems to growing into his leadership role on the team.

"Steeler Nation= We are better than you!"

by il_steeler_fan on Oct 7, 2008 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A little corny

but still effective, I think. Big strides in that department for #7.

"Steeler Nation= We are better than you!"

by il_steeler_fan on Oct 8, 2008 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

captain

don’t forget that he was elected a captain by his team this year. if you saw his interview with the Bus before the game, then you heard them talk about how ben didn’t used to be a vocal leader in the locker room, but at halftime during the baltimore game he started talking to his team about being tired of playing so poorly.

i really believe this year is a major turning point for ben. when the bus left, it was ben’s turn to step up and lead, and i think he did that some last year, but with a new coaching staff, it was awkward. but now everyone is comfortable with each other and everyone understands the roles. and ben is taking a new role. he is not just a passer, but a field general. he is not the young kid anymore. he is a leader of these men on the field, the sideline and the locker room.

...die trying

by agentorange on Oct 7, 2008 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Development vs Experience

Agree that Dixon could be a great #2 next (or next next) year. Remember, Byron was signed after Charlie went on IR, so he is still probably still coming up to speed on the playbook. But his starter experience can be very valuable, especially if Ben goes down for a series or a game.

Also, seeing the drama on teams around the league with starters/backups (Lions yesterday as an example), it’s a nice luxury to have an experienced backup and a learning rookie on the sidelines doing just that.

by BoiseSteeler on Oct 7, 2008 1:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i agree

i love dixon, although he looks like a toothpick out there. i love his athleticism, but i think lack of nfl-speed experience really hurts him here. GOD FORBID, but if ben were to go down, i feel more comfortable with leftwich, even with the inability to run and his slow windup. that experience counts for something in my book.

...die trying

by agentorange on Oct 7, 2008 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

toothpick

Yeah being at the game a few weeks back I saw Dix warming up and then he turned sideways and I lost track of him. I fear for him taking the types of hits Ben takes.

by Chicago Steeler on Oct 8, 2008 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ben being Ben

Its such a dilemma. Ben is worth every penny. He is a franchise QB, no doubt. He has balls of steel and an arm of gold. The only issue is that he is so confident in his ability to make every single play that he has taken WAY to many shots over the past couple years.

The question is, what can Ben do to not get hit as much, while at the same time still being the guy who can zip it 30 yards on a rope with a 300 lb DE hanging on him.

I would so hate to lose him to injury. But than again injuries are flukey. Brady, Palmer both went down for a season because a guy rolled into their feet. Ben’s been run over at full speed by both cars and defenders and always seems to find a way to get back up and play. Amazing.

by SteelerBuddha on Oct 7, 2008 1:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Very streaky

You’ve got someone like Favre who takes a lot of hits because he also likes to wait it out and find the big play who never misses games. Then you’ve got some guys that just break the first time they’re hit. Ben’s somewhere in between but hopefully he’ll have the luck to avoid the career ending or changing injuries. I’ll take bumps and bruises, but a torn ligament would be terrible.

by Chicago Steeler on Oct 7, 2008 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I heard the question/answer where he said he knew he could make the first guy miss. That’s great that you feel that way ben, but it’s simply not true. Maybe someday we won’t have to watch him chuck the ball from the bottom of a dogpile, but until then it should be “exciting” for us to watch and ben to play.

by steelguy99 on Oct 7, 2008 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ben stepping up

After this game, when I saw the stats, my first thought, “We won a game where Ben had over 30 passes (41, in fact)?” I think that this game, in addition to being another comeback win to go with his league leading comebacks in the last 4 years, showed that he is ready to carry this team. I liked the comparison with Elway, too, except that he’s had better numbers than Elway so far in his career. At least in terms of completion percentage, TD/INT ratio, etc. I distinctly remember that Elway’s best years from a passing efficiency standpoint were under Shanahan. That also made me think that Dan Reeves was somewhat overrated, but that’s another discussion.

Anyway, this was a great game for Ben to demonstrate that he’s ready to overcome early mistakes and carry the team to victory in a hostile environment.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 7, 2008 3:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

roethlisberger, rivers and manning

like jim wexell, i wanted the steelers to draft phillip rivers. of course they never got that chance. instead, when their number came up, they chose ben roethlisberger, and i am so grateful for that. hindsight, of course, is 20/20, and it shows us that we got the best quarterback. i was absolutely wrong about rivers (who will never be great) and, imo, eli is finally living up to his billing, but he is not nearly as clutch (or as accurate) as ben. looking back on it, the steelers got the best of the three. in general, i think roethlisberger is underrated in the national media, and that’s fine with me.

...die trying

by agentorange on Oct 7, 2008 4:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

reading an article about the JAX game the other day

and they said Ben had some ’eli-esque" plays with a linebacker draped on him. Yeah I know Eli did it in the Superbowl against all odds, but Ben has been making plays like that since 2004. That annoyed me.

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Oct 8, 2008 6:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

annoyed me too.

by Chicago Steeler on Oct 8, 2008 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As usual the steelers don’t make it into the highlight rolls. I was thinking the exact same thing you were. One of the reasons the steelers aren’t a media darling is we just aren’t very flashy. That double move by Nate and pump by Ben was probably one of the flashiest plays all season, but it didn’t show any insane people dodging and it was only 48 yards instead of 70. The NFL caters to what people want to see. To everyone else the BAL and JAC games were pretty boring (no really, go read other blogs of the game). You have to love defensive games to enjoy them, and most NFL viewers don’t.

And yeah, fuck Eli Manning man. Ben’s 3rd down was just as if not more impressive than Eli’s SB throw, and oh yeah, it was right on the money and didn’t have to be caught against his helmet. Ben is the king of scrambling, and we’ll show that when we dominate Eli.

by steelguy99 on Oct 8, 2008 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good call...

You might just have your finger on the pulse there with the defensive games and highlights. So many times I’ve thought…let’s see what everyone else is saying about the Steelers’ game…only to be glumly treated to a leftoverish lukewarm serving of the briefest of coverage.

I know the media isn’t going to follow the team like we do, but it’s almost like they don’t like football. I mean I guess there’s football and there’s football, but they go for flash every time and media darlings. Can’t there be an outlet there for just playing tough?

The other anoying thing I’ve noticed is when they’re promoting other games/players we aren’t involved in there seems to be higlight reels played subliminally of successful plays against the Steelers. Every time I see Reggie Bush he’s flipping into the endzone versus us. I hate it!

by SCSteeler on Oct 10, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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