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Beware Phillip Rivers and the San Diego Passing Game

I could easily dig up ten comments made in the last month (some were made during the great Eli vs. Ben debate) that alluded to Phillip Rivers not being the real-deal. Rivers, Manning and Roethlisberger were the three prize QBs of the 2004 NFL draft of course, yet because of Roethlisberger's early success and Manning's recent emergence, Rivers is largely relegated to the sidelines when it comes to discussing who the best of the trio might be.

But I don't want to get into that again. Let's simply take a look at how the San Diego Chargers and Phillip RIvers have done in the passing game this year.

 

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SEASON STATS


PassingRushingSacks
GRatingCompAttPctYdsY/GY/ATDINTRushYdsY/GAvgTDSackYdsL
2008 - Philip Rivers 9 106.3 149 234 63.7 2354 261.6 8.7 21 8 10 7 .9 0.7 0 10 67

 

WEEKLY PERFORMANCES


vs CAR / 9.7.08PassingRushing
CompAttPctYdsTDRushYdsAvgTD
Philip Rivers 17 27 63.0 217 3 1 -1 -1.0 0


vs DEN / 9.14.08PassingRushing
CompAttPctYdsTDRushYdsAvgTD
Philip Rivers 21 33 63.6 377 3


vs NYJ / 9.22.08PassingRushing
CompAttPctYdsTDRushYdsAvgTD
Philip Rivers 19 25 76.0 250 3 3 -1 -0.3 0


vs OAK / 9.28.08PassingRushing
CompAttPctYdsTDRushYdsAvgTD
Philip Rivers 14 25 56.0 180 1 3 12 4.0 0


vs MIA / 10.5.08PassingRushing
CompAttPctYdsTDRushYdsAvgTD
Philip Rivers 13 28 46.4 159 1


vs NEP / 10.12.08PassingRushing
CompAttPctYdsTDRushYdsAvgTD
Philip Rivers 18 27 66.7 306 3


vs BUF / 10.19.08PassingRushing
CompAttPctYdsTDRushYdsAvgTD
Philip Rivers 22 29 75.9 208 2 1 -1 -1.0 0


vs NOS / 10.26.08PassingRushing
CompAttPctYdsTDRushYdsAvgTD
Philip Rivers 25 40 62.5 341 3 1 -1 -1.0 0


vs KAN / 11.9.08PassingRushing
CompAttPctYdsTDRushYdsAvgTD
Philip Rivers 27 36 75.0 316 2 1 -1 -1.0 0



STATISTICAL RANKS

Stat No. League Rank
Passing Yards 2,354 5th
TDs 21 1st
INTs 8 t-9th
Completion % 65.2% 10th
Passer Rating 106.3 2nd
1st Down % 41.5 1st
Yards/Attempt 8.7

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We'll get into the particulars of San Diego's offense later today and this week, but a couple of thoughts about Rivers and the SD offense.

  1. We all know that LaDanian Tomlinson is having a down year. If you got him in the Top 5 of your Fantasy League, you're likely in bad shape. Early on, the chatter was about him not getting enough carries. Frankly, I don't think that's a good argument. In fact, Rivers should probably be getting even more passing attempts per game. That 8.7 YPA is a sweet number, yet Rivers' 30 Attempts/Game are only the 20th most in the league. Something doesn't quite make sense there.

  2. Don't let the 4-5 record fool you too much. The defense hasn't held up its end of the bargain for most of the year, hence the firing of DC Ted Cottrell a few weeks ago. In the Chargers' first two games of the year, they lost on the very last play of the game. Both times, the defense was on the field last, not the offense. In those two losses, Rivers had monster games, throwing for 594 yards, 6 TDs, and just 1 INT. Really, he's only played poorly in two games this year: against BUF and MIA. He turned it over 3 times (1 INT, 2 FUM) against Buffalo despite completing 22/29 passes. And vs Miami, he completed just 46.4% of his passes. Other than that, he's been basically lights out.

  3. My fear is that the Chargers will essentially abandon the running game for a large part of this football game. The Chargers should be passing more given the growing sample size of data suggesting they're quite good when they do. Our pass defense has continued to find ways to hold up under extreme pressure, but with DeShea and B-Mac both out this week, could this be the week that they finally crack under pressure?

  4. Even with those two last second losses (plus another close late loss to NO due to their defense), and a very poor defense thus far (26th YPG, 32nd Pass)  the Chargers are still a very dangerous team because of their passing game. They have the 6th most passing yards/game, while giving up the 8th fewest sacks (11).

We can very well win this football game if we can get things going through the air against a very soft SD pass defense. It's fairly tough to run against them, but there's lots to be had through the air. Let's hope Bruce Arians continues to script successful early drives, then does a better job adjusting to whatever SD throws at us as a counter-punch. This one could turn into a little bit of a shootout - certainly high 20s for both teams wouldn't surprise me. We'll see. The Chargers do a good job of protecting Rivers, and he's pretty competent at getting the ball out of his hand on time, but he'll be facing a pass rush that's more intense than what he usually sees, especially in AFC West contests.

I'll end by saying Rivers is a great competitor. He acts like a pompous jerk sometimes out there, at least he did earlier in his career, but it's just a product of him having a little fire in his belly. Nothing wrong with that if you're a Chargers fan. What it means for us is that the Chargers will likely continue playing to the level of their opponent. They have played well against some good teams, and miserably against some mediocre teams. I imagine this one, like most all our games lately, will be a close one and decided down the stretch.

 

 

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I’d much rather the steelers go against a team with a good offense than a good defense. We know that our defense can hang with any of the big boys (though maybe less so with our CB situation this weekend), but our offense usually does not get much done unless it is against lousy defenses.

When our offense gets on a roll I can see them scoring on drive after drive when they find their rhythm, but it seems like they need a subpar defense to find that rhythm against. Just in case though, it’d be nice if our defense was able to hold SD to under 10 points.

You seem to be pretty high on the chargers Blitz. I haven’t been paying attention much to them but KC was not the type of game to start getting excited over them about. Hopefully Ben isn’t the only QB on a slump, as despite total yardage of 400 against KC they only managed to put up 20 points thanks to an INT. It’s not as if KC is known around the league as having a solid defense.

by steelguy99 on Nov 12, 2008 4:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I tend to agree

I would think that we should win against a team with suspect defense even if they have a great offense. And, without LT hitting on all cylinders, the Steelers should be able to limit Rivers in this game. Personally, I love Phillip Rivers, because he graduated from my alma mater, and I have stuck up for him once or twice on here. I know he can run his mouth, but he is a solid QB in this league. I do hope that the Steelers are able to shut him down and get the win this weekend. So far, this season, I think in every game that we’ve lost it’s been offensive miscues that have cost us the game. If Ben’s not right this weekend, we need to rest him until healthy. If he’s got a chronic problem that won’t get better without surgery (but won’t get worse if he plays), we need to rest him until Byron starts sucking. Otherwise, we need to find a running game in a hurry.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Nov 12, 2008 5:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

YPA

One thing to note Blitz… I wouldn’t say that Rivers should pass more because of his YPA, rather his YPA is better because of the limited passing. Similar to Big Ben in his first two years his YPA’s were fantastic because of when and where he was passing. He was well set up to play action and play action equals out to big yardage if well set up.

by Chicago Steeler on Nov 12, 2008 5:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

true to a certain extent

But Roethlisberger only got to throw like 21-22 times a game, whereas Rivers is given the ball 30 times a game. He’s shown he can protect the ball and make things happen.

by Blitzburgh on Nov 12, 2008 5:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

His TD/INT ratio is certainly impressive, but his INTs are pretty high (if not quite at everyones new favorite whipping boy Big Ben’s). Considering LT has only been good for one TD this season, the TDs had to come from somewhere.

Our team has not been big on turnovers this year, but if Rivers wants to throw us a few it will really fire up our team.

by steelguy99 on Nov 12, 2008 5:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yea, hate when we blow TO opportunities

WRote in the open thread post Sunday that we needed to take advantage if Manning offered one up to us. He did. We blew it. Hurt.

by Blitzburgh on Nov 12, 2008 5:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

what i want vs. what i think

what i want is for the steelers to dominate this game. i want a final score something like steelers-31, chargers-13. i want the defense to keep playing the well, the secondary to force rivers to hold the ball while the front 7 chase his butt around and pile up a few more sacks. i want the offense to c lick. i want ben to relax and stop pressing. i want willie to find himself in some open space where he can put the ‘fast’ back in fwp.

what i think, though, is that, like Blitz said, we will get a tight game that will be decided in the last few minutes. i also agree that the steelers will probably struggle to run the ball, and will need to pass the ball effectively to win (this means protection by the o-line is imperative). i predict that the steelers decide that they simply CANNOT lose this game, and win it 24-20.

...die trying

by agentorange on Nov 13, 2008 7:47 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Harrison and Woodley

I think we’ll be okay if we have both Harrison and Woodley on the field rushing the passer. Rivers is not mobile and he’s not as good as the Manning’s at getting rid of the ball quickly (even if there’s no receiver there). As long as Timmons or Polamalu trail Gates all over the field I think we’ll come out with a victory.

Tony - Stillers Fan in Raleigh

by Tshaff on Nov 13, 2008 12:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

All you needed...

to know about Rivers was seen in that playoff game vs. New England when he played,and almost led the Chargers to a win in Foxboro,despite a blown ACL and,I believe,a bum shoulder. He’s one of the very best in the NFL.

by rissaldar on Nov 13, 2008 2:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yup

competitor. guy loves playing.

by Blitzburgh on Nov 13, 2008 9:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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