The Steelers 64 Million Dollar Question
I got home from the Steelers game Sunday and watched the Eagles and Giants. The G-Men beat the team from Pennsylvania on the road by a touchdown, when the home team could not score on its final drive. Sound familiar?
Not really. It was night and day. The final drive was a subset of the game and the game was a subset of the season. When Donovan McNabb dropped back to pass, for a good three seconds he had no one around him. He clearly and calmly surveyed the field and his options. After three seconds a Giant would break protection and McNabb would have to throw or escape that player. Once he scrambled for a first down. He was clear-headed and uncscathed. The Eagles came up short when two running plays failed to gain three yards. So be it. Their fans have every reason to believe the next game will be different.
Two weeks earlier the Steelers were in the same position against the same team. Ben Roethlisberger was the anti-McNabb. His right leg was moving back at the snap. He couldn't look at the field and read progessions. He needed to throw. He couldn't throw long, there was not enough time. Our fans not only didn't have any confidence, many actually left Heinz Field. Aside from the fact that those pathetic people don't deserve tickets, they were right. There was actually enough time for two possessions. Eight plays, zero yards.
Last year Ben would get us 15 or 20 yards a game rushing, crucial yards. This year he doesn't run, since getting hit for the 126th time might be his last. Our quarterback is a fish out of water. He must have protection to make plays. He is not a west coast guy who lives on instant scrimmage passes. He is a big mobile guy who makes his living fending off a defender (but not three), looking at options and making big plays.
The Steelers have played five teams with winning records. They average 26 rushing attempts for 70 yards, a 2.7 average in those five games. Ben has been sacked 24 times, an average of five per game. This was supposed to be a Cadillac year for our offense, with guys like Holmes ready to bust. Against the better teams, we are a Cadillac with four flat tires, only able to amble 10 miles per hour.
We've had our moments, of course. Bruce Arians has scripted opening drives that have scored seven of nine times (in Jax after the pick-six), four of them touchdowns. But how many times this year has the offensive line been swallowed alive? How many times has the live been overmatched, out-coached and out-schemed? When you watch the games, do you notice the immediate penetration into our backfield? I turned on that Eagles-Giants game and saw McNabb unscathed and wondered, how hard is that?
The $64 million question is, can those flat tires be repaired? Can somehow the line get better? The mantra in the NFL is survive through December and peak in January. Can our line do that? Is it possible Larry Zierlein knows what he is doing? Is it possible for linemen to actually melt together as the season goes on? There is no point worrying about Ben, talking about more running, or blaming Bruce Arians. Ben can't make plays, running backs can't make yards and Arians can't call plays with four flat tires. Is it possible? Or will we flitter into mediorcity with our shiny Cadillac waiting for next year when we can fix a couple tires and replace a couple more. I guess we'll know more this Sunday. I am begging for improvement. Can it happen?
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You bring up a good point
If you think about it, we’ve a had a bunch of changes on the line over the past 2 years (Marvel in and out, Faneca leaving, Hartings retiring/Mahan/Hartwig, Simmons in and out, Starks/Colon moving around at RT), so maybe all this group needs is a little time to gel and get to know each other well enough to mold themselves into an effective unit.
by Romain El 82 on
Nov 13, 2008 11:57 AM EST
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i think the line can mesh well
They are getting a nice string of games together. There are weak links still and if M Smith is healthy, I think we should play him over Colon and hope Starks plays out of his mind as a payday looms large.
I think goes a little deeper than the line though. Is a good point that Ben’s not really fit for this type of situation we’re in. We’ll see how quick a learner he is when the stakes get real high here. He’s responded before
by Blitzburgh on
Nov 13, 2008 12:15 PM EST
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I’m not holding my breath. I think we’ve seen the last of Marvel in a steelers uniform. Now lets go sign someone to actually be a warm backup.
by steelguy99 on
Nov 13, 2008 12:38 PM EST
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my major conern with our line...
Is not so much for this year but in future years. The way the Steelers team is built it would be very surprising for them to be in a position to grab a sure fire early first round Offensive Lineman anytime soon. Since they will be in the position to not grab a sure thing they will be forced to draft either projects or lineman with some additional risk involved. The Steelers FO rarley spends money on expensive free agents and top level O-Lineman are starting to become VERY expensive. So how do we get better if the current personel doesn’t start gelling? And is this something that will not only huant us for this year but for years to come?
by frankrmineo on
Nov 13, 2008 12:36 PM EST
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We have a lot of lower level draft picks to trade this year. We could probably get two pretty snazzy picks for them at least.
by steelguy99 on
Nov 13, 2008 12:39 PM EST
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Anyone notice that our offense under Arians looks a lot like...
…the Browns offense when Arians was offensive coordinator over there (2001-2003).
Not much of a running game. At least they couldn’t run it when it mattered. As a result, they didn’t have much of an offensive identity, unless it was resorting to chuck and duck.
Sound familiar?
Yeah, they moved up and down the field against us in that 2002 playoff game. But who didn’t that year? Any team that was a decent passing team had their way with us that year. And that was compounded in that playoff game when Chad Scott was hurt and Poteat saw extensive playing time.
So the answer to that question is no. Expect only minimal improvement in this offense. Maybe Ben gets healthy and can lift the offense a bit. Because that’s the state of our offense. If Ben doesn’t get it done, it’s not going to get done. Think back to the (pre Terrell Davis) Elway led Broncos of the 80s.
And to those who think the offense can improve, I pose this question. How?
- This team can’t run on first down.
- This team can’t run on third and short.
- This team can’t pass protect well enough to survive many 3rd and longs.
- Ben has to rely on a short passing game to offset the poor running game and the poor pass protection. But that’s never been his strength. And that’s really a lot to ask of any qb.
Steeler fans only hope is that this defense gets and stays near 100% healthy for a stretch run and is dominant enough to tow this flawed offense deep into the playoffs. The other hope is that we don’t meet any teams that can rush the passer that well in the playoffs (hello New England without Adalius Thomas, or Denver, or even Indy again). I know many think we can handle Tennessee and maybe we can, but only if our defense totally stonewalls them.
But if we face a balanced team in the playoffs. Forget it. Luckily, most of those teams reside in the NFC.
Otherwise wait til next year when FWP/Mendenhall are hopefully healthy, to see if the offensive line is upgraded to at least an average unit and there is a different OC in charge. If those changes take place, this offense can be very good next year.
by steeler1275 on
Nov 13, 2008 2:37 PM EST
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Line talk is getting old.
Is it just me or is all the talk about the offensive line getting pretty old? Not taking away from your post, it’s good. But, I just think the o-line talk is being played out. Every steeler fan knows about the offensive line. Now-a-days hearing “The Steelers need to work on the offensive line” basically means that whoever is saying that obviously just saw the steelers play for the first time in two years.
We all know there are problems. I think it’s time we just stop talking about the one that doesn’t look like it’s going to get better anytime soon. Arians needs to work with what he’s got. Tomlin preaches “No Excuses” so BA should not have an excuse. The best players/coaches are the ones that overcome adversity and can find a way to win.
by sn0wballz on
Nov 13, 2008 4:52 PM EST
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You're right
The only repreive from the O Line talk has been the Ben bashing going on this week. But the offensive line is the 800 pound James Harrison in the room. It seems to be the only thing holding this team back. And we talk about it here because the coaches won’t address it as a problem, probably because they don’t want to throw anyone under the bus a la Peyton Manning circa 2006. Also, the coaches refused to make any changes on the line despite terrible play, as if the problem would go away if you ignored it. It is almost fortunate that injuries have forced a change in the makeup of the o line after their terrible play, which has been getting better (though still not good) as of late.
by CarlWeathersMustache on
Nov 13, 2008 5:22 PM EST
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800 pound James Harrison....classic
I had to comment on that awesome sentence.
Now, as for the topic at hand.
I think this line can gel. Its not like Starks, Kemo, Stapelton, and Colon old. I however, do not think Zerlien is going to help much. I think they need the right coaching. Perhaps Z’s style is just wrong for the players we have, I’m not sure.
by shleeve on
Nov 13, 2008 8:45 PM EST
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You are correct that line talk is getting old
I even hesitated to hit the submit button. The irony of watching the other Pennsylvania team in the same predicament compelled me to submit anyway. I yearn for mediocrity in that one area. I think I may have the worst view of our offensive line than anyone, and I was hoping somehow that from this thread I could move up a notch or two. Maybe Sunday.
Thoughtful discussion with a sense of history
by maryrose on
Nov 13, 2008 10:41 PM EST
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this line is built to run block
good post maryrose
this line that Tomlin inherited was drafted under the Cowher/Whiz/Grimm era, which prided itself in the ability to run the ball early and often, with hopes of wearing the opponent down as the second half of a game wore on. (miss watching insert sad emoticon) Granted this is NOT the same o-line under Cowher by any stretch of the imagination.
This line (over the past two years) has proven that they can run block and have suffered with pass blocking = painfully obvious. Although Ben has proven that he can throw the ball effectively down field, and is surrounded by play makers, I think I speak for everyone when I say its time to get back to pounding the rock. With the caliber of defense this year, which might rival some of the best Steelers defenses ever, why not run the ball, play possession football, and hopefully set up some play action passes.
The Steelers always seem to win when the running back goes over 100 yards and ben throws under 25 passes.
And these fake wide receiver screen passes/hand-offs are not fooling anyone bruce!
by bradyquinnsclipboard on
Nov 13, 2008 5:38 PM EST
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I’m not sure that we have the players to be anything more than passable. This is not to take away from the improvements that have been made this year – mostly by Hartwig and Stappleton giving Ben some semblance of a pocket to step up into. Starts has shown he doesn’t have the ability to deal with speed rushers and Slow Willie Colon continues to show that try as he might he is constantly overmatched – thus tons of holding/false start calls. Combine these problems with Smith’s back problems and I fear for our immediate future at tackle.
After all, it’s unlikely we’ll resign Smith – and we probably shouldn’t really – or Starks. So, I wonder about left tackle next season as well as depth at the position in general. Either we’ll be forced to pay big money for an elite tackle over the offseason and not resign some players we really need to (i.e. BMac), or we’ll be putting a rookie there that we probably traded up to draft. Or we stick Essex or move Colon over. shudder My hope is for an elite tackle in the first round, although I wonder how much it’ll end up costing us.
by BluegrassSteeler on
Nov 13, 2008 5:53 PM EST
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I am not sure as I haven’t started looking into this stuff yet, but is their a big name Left Tackle set to hit the Free Agent Market this year?
by frankrmineo on
Nov 14, 2008 10:01 AM EST
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64 mill.?
is when will they get rid of z. as far as i’m concerned he made it quite clear when he said before training camp even started that the line was already set. ( i could be wrong might not have been before camp but it wasn’t long after it started) someone mentioned in the comments that great players/coaches overcome well if tomlin can’t see whats wrong then he isn’t a good coach. not that i ever thought he was. only reason he was hired was because of the rooney rule. rooneys can’t preach about other teams not hiring black coaches then not hire one themselves. whether he deserved to be one or not just the best option at black head coach available.
by billsteelcity on
Nov 13, 2008 8:52 PM EST
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I think Tomlin will be a great Coach & I surley am glad he was picked over Russ Grimm, and I guess the verdict is still on with the Wiz…
But i truley disagree that he was hired only because he was black
by frankrmineo on
Nov 14, 2008 10:00 AM EST
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Tomlin can only do so much
the rest is up to the players. I don’t think anyone disagrees that the line is mediocre on a good day. Against top notch talent they become subpar. Ultimately I think it’s a lack of talent and cohesion (due to injury) much more than it is coaching.
There’s no question that there will be some changes after the season, but that’s a dillema for another day. Suggesting that coach Z should be replaced and assuming that some new coach will come in with a silver bullet to save the day is a pipe dream. You can’t make chicken salad….
The best we can do at this point is try to get some consistency and mask our weaknesses through good game planning and maybe some traditional formations (fullback) in the running game.
It’s not a remedy to win a superbowl but if the team can get it rolling their confidence will return and the team will play like they are capable.
by Steev1705 on
Nov 13, 2008 9:49 PM EST
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all very true
the fullback would be a good idea too. oh thats right we don’t have one. thanks again bruce.
by billsteelcity on
Nov 13, 2008 10:17 PM EST
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I was just watching the Steelers v. Jaguars Game of the Week by NFL Films and they showed a clip at the end of the game of Tomlin congratulating his players. When Chris Kimoeatu walked up Tomlin said, “Way to battle, Juice.” Now I know this isn’t breaking news or anything, I’m just mostly curious about this nickname. Did I miss this earlier in the year? Has anyone else heard about this? Does anyone know what it means? Like I said, just curious..
by R.Clemente on
Nov 14, 2008 1:56 AM EST
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hmm
We have Jim Wexell on from time to time. He tells us about the players nicknames. Like how J Harrison isnt Silverback, but rather Deebo. No idea though about Juice.
by Blitzburgh on
Nov 14, 2008 3:31 AM EST
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His nickname is Big Juicy
Tomlin shortened it to Juice. It came to our awareness in preseason when he received attention for being a new starter.
Thoughtful discussion with a sense of history
by maryrose on
Nov 14, 2008 7:29 AM EST
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The post can condensed to one sentence
Does Coach Z know what he is doing? If not then we’re screwed because no one else is in the position to step in and rectify the situation. As I read your piece a light came on, the O-line is being out schemed. I’ve seen too many scenarios this year where Ben has plenty of time. Perhaps it is just a matter of whether these guys are meshing or not. A problem that should work its way out by month’s end. It should also be mentioned that we are not exactly off pace for where we thought we would be at this point of the season. (with the nagging thought that we might 8-1 with just slightly better play). At this point a couple of games may make the difference between a commanding playoff seeding or no playoffs at all.
Thanks again Rose.
by RickVa on
Nov 14, 2008 7:42 PM EST
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