Is Pittsburgh's Offensive Strategy Different Than Great Defensive Teams Of Years Past?
I wondered earlier as I walked to the store if the 2008 Pittsburgh Steelers ran the ball fewer times than other teams with top defenses over the course of the last ten years. That initial question led me to lots of interesting things which I explored, and I have many more follow-up inquiries to look at later after doing this exercise. But my thought was that we probably were being more cute than most dominant defenses in recent years. Let's take a look to see if that hypothesis holds up, then move on from there and try to answer other pertinent questions based on what we see.
| Year | Best Defense YPG | Rushes/G | Rushes/G League Rank |
| 2008 | Pittsburgh | 27.4 | 13th |
| 2007 | Pittsburgh | 31.93 | 3rd |
| 2006 | Baltimore | 29.75 | 11th |
| 2005 | Tampa Bay | 28.56 | 15th |
| 2004 | Pittsburgh | 38.62 | 1st |
| 2003 | Dallas | 32.18 | 4th |
| 2002 | Tampa Bay | 25.85 | 24th |
| 2001 | Pittsburgh | 36.25 | 1st |
| 2000 | Tennessee | 34.2 | 1st |
| 1999 | Buffalo | 32.4 | 2nd |
Ok several notes real quick to make sure we're on the same page:

- Causation: Obviously teams who run the ball well, and are productive offensively in general, have their defense on the field less frequently . Which in turn translates into fewer yards per game allowed defensively. And conversely, a stingy defense gives your offense more opportunities on offense. So it's a little dangerous to make absolute conclusions one way or another based on this data, no matter how telling it may seem. It's also worth noting that today's offenses run the ball a bit more infrequently than in year's past. I think stopping at 1999 is appropriate for many reasons, but one of the main ones is that teams have really taken to the air more recently.
- Success Rate: How successful were/are these teams running the football? It's one thing to pound away on the ground even if ineffectively so that you can let your defense simply win ball games. It's another to keep pounding away because you are so successful at it that not doing so makes no sense. Merely knowing carries per game doesn't tell nearly enough of the story.
- We're Not Alone: That 2006 Ravens team won 13 games; the 2005 Bucs won 11 games and made the playoffs; and the 2002 Bucs won 12 games and then the Super Bowl. Those three teams, plus our 2008 Steelers, constitute the four outliers of the group. The remaining teams all were in the top 4 in terms of rushing attempts per game. It's worth nothing though that two of those teams were Jon Gruden orchestrated offenses. He's had similarly outstanding success on defense thanks to DC Monte Kiffin, but Gruden still likes to leave his imprint on the game. He does so by throwing the ball lots. Probably a bit more than he should.
But just to make sure we're basically looking at the right set of teams here, lets also look at Yards Per Play Allowed on defense for those same ten teams and see how they stack up with the rest of the league that year.
| Year | Best Defense YPG | Y/P Allowed | Y/P/A Rank |
| 2008 | Pittsburgh | 3.8 | 1st |
| 2007 | Pittsburgh | 4.6 | t-1st |
| 2006 | Baltimore | 4.5 | 1st |
| 2005 | Tampa Bay | 4.7 | 5th |
| 2004 | Pittsburgh | 4.7 | 3rd |
| 2003 | Dallas | 4.7 | 2nd |
| 2002 | Tampa Bay | 4.2 | 1st |
| 2001 | Pittsburgh | 4.5 | 2nd |
| 2000 | Tennessee | 4.2 | 1st |
| 1999 | Buffalo | 4.3 | 2nd |
Ok, good. That confirms we're basically looking at the right set of teams. It's mostly all 1st and 2nds, with only one team (TB '05) having greater than a two places in the ranking disparity between their top spot in yards per game allowed and their ranking in yards per play allowed. So close the Gospel of Football Outsiders, at least that chapter of it, for those few reading who might want to go there. All those yards are still not created equal, I know, so hush there too please, but we're definitely in the correct ballpark. Not just the right park, the right section and row even. Let's carry on.
Now let's take it a step further and see if teams with great defenses are sticking with the run even though they aren't very good at it. I also was wanted to start tracking the success in terms of wins/losses, and playoff success.
Onward.
| Year | YPG Def Leader | Yards Per Carry | League Average | |
| 2008 (6-3) | PIT (???) | 3.5 (30th) | 4.1 | |
| 2007 (10-6) | PIT (WC Round) | 4.2 (8th) | 4.1 | |
| 2006 (13-3) | BAL (Div Round) | 3.4 (31st) | 4.2 | |
| 2005 (11-5) | TB (WC Round) | 4.0 (13th) | 4.0 | |
| 2004 (15-1) | PIT (AFC Champ Game) | 4.0 (21st) | 4.1 | |
| 2003(10-6) | DAL (WC Round) | 3.9 (23rd) | 4.2 | |
| 2002 (12-4) | TB (SB Champs) | 3.8 26th) | 4.2 ( | |
| 2001 (13-3) | PIT (AFC Champ Game) | 4.8 (2nd) | 4.1 | |
| 2000 (13-3) | TEN (Div Round) | 3.8 (23rd) | 4.1 | |
| 1999 (11-5) | BUF (WC Round) | 3.9 (17th) | 3.9 |
Couple follow-up notes with this data handy now:
- The Good News First: Well, history's on our side in terms of making the playoffs. No team that allows the fewest yards per game has ever not made the playoffs.
- Does Defense Really Win Championships Though?: Well, as we just mentioned, if you play great defense, you're going to make the playoffs. But of these ten teams with elite defenses, only three of them won a playoff game that year: 2001 and 2004 Pittsburgh; 2005 Tampa Bay. 2006 Baltimore and 2000 Tennessee both had first round BYEs before losing.
- How Bad Is Too Bad?: 6/10 teams above averaged fewer than 4.0 YPC. However, most all of them still pounded away on the ground. Buffalo ('99) had the 2nd most carries; Tennessee ('00) was 1st; Tampa Bay ('02) was 24th; Dallas ('03) was 4th; Baltimore ('06) was 11th; and Pittsburgh ('08) is 13th.
You might look at Baltimore in '06 and Pittsburgh in '08 and conclude, well we're averaging about the same yard per carry, and league rank wise, they're about the same. True, very true. They only ran it roughly two more times per game, or ~7% more often. Sounds little, but that can be a bit deceiving. Of course, football games are made up on many different moments, not just singular ones. At least usually. But it's little decisions like opting to throw on 3rd and 2 with a lead and a defense that's been playing lights out when not getting put in bad position by the offense or getting burned for a long TD on a fluky tipped type play.
Conclusions:
Well, there are some striking data points in here in my opinion, but there are also (as is usually the case) an outlier or two that makes things a bit murky. But let's make a couple conclusions to close, then see what y'all think.
- Mediocre teams, even ones with great defenses that lead them to playoff berths, don't usually get very far in the playoffs. Teams like the Rams and Patriots won a number of Super Bowls largely based on their offensive prowess.
- However, those offenses were exceptionally good, and had they not been, perhaps we would have seen a few more SB winners like the TB Bucs in 2002, or the Ravens in 2000, or the Steelers in '05.
- So, as it relates to this year, since their doesnt seem to be a dominant team propelled by outstanding offense, perhaps having that special defense will be enough provided the offense can do enough come playoff time.
- Tampa Bay in 2002 was an odd outlier. They rarely ran the ball, and for good reason: they weren't very good at it. Here's the difference though. That year, Tampa threw just 10 INTs. One was from Tom Tupa, a punter. And one by Shaun King, a colossal mistake that the NFL Gods wish they could take back forever. Brad and Rob Johnson combined for just 8 picks otherwise, despite the team throwing it 35 times per game.
- So in other words, as it relates to us this year, we're not inherently playing excessively unstrategic football on offense.We're not very good - AT ALL..at least yet - running the ball yet we've shown a decent commitment to it. We could feel ok about ourselves if we weren't turning the ball over so often when we took to the air. However, we're doing ourselves a disservice by not running it more simply because of turnovers, which we all know is probably the most important stat in football. We have a turnover differential of -4 despite A) only fumbling 3 times, the 3rd fewest total in the league and B) having the 4th highest INT% at 4.2%.
- So to conclude, we're ok. We're close. The picks have to come down, we need to avoid the temptationt to not keep running the ball as the weather gets colder, even if we stay fairly unproductive while doing so. And when Ben is more comfortable controlling the offense, perhaps we'll then be able to again take teams by surprise through the passing game, somewhat like we did in 2005. I have a follow-up post that I'd like to get to later today that proves just how dominant our defense has been (I knew it had been good, but while doing all this digging around for this post, I realized even more so how great they've been). But all of what I covered here, plus what I intend to show next, all have me convinced that we might be better off just plowing ahead, for better or for worse on offense. It doesnt help that we're out our top two RBs, but there's no reason why Gary Russell couldn't have a string of games like Ryan Grant had for Green Bay last year. We're close, despite how infinitely far it seems at times we still have to go on offense.
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wow
first of all, blitz, i’m amazed at the amount of work you put into this. thanks for your analysis and your interpretation of the data. from a much less technical standpoint, i would absolutely agree with what you are saying here. i think a strong defense with an offense that doesn’t lose the game (turn the ball over) can win a championship this year. it can CERTAINLY win the lamar hunt trophy anyway.
and i generally agree with your suggestion that the steelers need to stay committed to the run, even when it seems not to be working, but i want to press you a bit there by asking how far that commitment goes. when do you want arians and company to call runs? first down? i’ve heard many comments on this site pleading with b.a. to stop calling first down runs because they are too predicatable. third down and short? we have tried this many times and can’t get it done. Second and long? how many times do we run on second and 8-10 yards leaving us with a third and 6 before we start complaining?
all i am saying is that it is easy to call runs when the line is blocking well and holes are opening up and the ball carrier is picking up 4-8 yards a carry. but when it looks like the defensive line is a brick wall, and willie is getting hit in the backfield time after time; when first and 10 turns into second and 12, it becomes more and more difficult to keep calling consistent running plays. basically, i think it comes down to this: we need our line to open up some holes and we need fwp (or mewelde or whoever is in) to hit those holes hard and keep the legs churnin’ and hold on to the football. we need to improve in the running game. for me it is less about the play calling and more about the execution.
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by agentorange on
Nov 14, 2008 7:12 AM EST
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thanks
to your points:
could be just about execution. I’m not 300 pounds and battling D Lineman so I don’t know how hard it is to gain or lose an edge. But is it possible we got a lot better at executing if the linfe and the offense had a meeting and said this is what we’re going to be about. Arians would still have to mix and match but I just kind of think (without really knowing this for sure AT all) that part of the reason our line struggles a bit is because there’s just no flow at all with our play calls. My guess is we’re always on our heels a bit beacuse our line rarely knows what the hell to expect. Bens struggling with his command and confidence with the offense, the play calls are willy nilly at times. You can’t handle huge defenders unless you’re of the mindset that we have a plan, we’re going to impose our will. Good luck stopping us. Thats what the 2004 Steelers were about. Didnt average tons of yards per carry but we stsayed with it. And some might say we dont have Bus now. True that, but come on. He was old. Yeah he was absolutely amazing that year, but we can find ways to compete for 3.8-4 yards per carry if we would run more with Moore on 3rd and 3-5s and with Russell some as well.
Didnt we keep Russell to be a FB too? Can’t he play FB and take some carries for 4 yards up the gut?
When something works we dont keep going back there over and over and over till they take it away. Remember what the Pats did to us last year with Welker? Sickening. Literally like 11 plays to Welker in 1.5 quarters in the scond half. We had a LB on him because of an injury; they exploited. OVER AND OVER. Bled us dry. We don’t do that. Pits
As to your first point, I tried to hint that its not entirely black and white what we should do. Thats why I added the Turnover stats in there. Since it’s kind of a tough call, I think the deciding factover has to be possessions and field position. The run may not work much, and we already are running a fair amount and still struggling, so I cant claim that lots more running would necessarily lead to better things. But since the defense literally is historically amazing, I think it just comes down to protecting the ball at all costs.. At least until Ben gets comfy again and theres some really nice matchups to be had.
by Blitzburgh on
Nov 14, 2008 7:51 AM EST
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I noticed an interesting comment by BA
in today’s Post Gazette article about Willie Parker coming back (with a shoulder brace). In the article he comments that he’s thrilled to have Willie Parker back because now defenses have to focus on the play action and respect Willie’s explosiveness on the run. He specifically mentions that Mewelde is good but suggests the running game isn’t effective without Willie.
For me that was very telling. He has and continues to see Mewelde as a passing option rather than a starting running back. With that mindset it’s no wonder why the running game has suffered over the past few weeks. I know you wanted BA to use Mewelde more, but I think the only way BA uses our running game the way it should be used is when he’s got a healthy FWP or Mendenhall. Until then we will probably see more pass and less run.
by Steev1705 on
Nov 14, 2008 9:32 AM EST
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well, to me, that shows that BA is full of BS
willies explosiveness has been on the shelf all year. he’s averaging 3.8ypg, and his longest run this and last year is 32 yards. plus, he’s been hurt for half the season, including a knee injury that kept him out of 3 games, over a bye week nonetheless. so willies explosiveness has not been evident this season. also, teams will be daring pittsburgh the throw the ball with ben playing the way he is and the oline being as porous as it is. so, the play action may not be too effective anyhow.
just to clarify Steev, i’m not bashing your comment or input, i just can’t stand arians and i think, to me at least, this partly shows how inept he is when it comes to understanding, gameplanning, and implementing on the offensive side of the ball.
we gave whisenhunt a lot of crap but at least he stuck with the steeler mentality of running the ball. arians, dumbass, doesn’t. hopefully when willie comes back we’ll run the ball more, and more effectively. but in my opinion, mm is a very good second option to run the ball, and as his performance this year has shown, has the talent to be a starter for some teams in this league.
by NoCal-SteelCity on
Nov 14, 2008 11:50 AM EST
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agreed
I don’t think Willie has been FWP since 2006. I don’t know if he just tried to bulk up too much to handle goal line carries or if the OL is just that much worse now, or (my personal fav) BA just doesn’t use him correctly, but he hasn’t been a big play threat for quite some time.
by cgolden on
Nov 14, 2008 12:02 PM EST
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I think he's saying something
about “brand recognition” if you will … Regardless of how effective or ineffective Willie’s been, the opposing D does not want to give him a chance to be effective, and will have to play him tight.
Similarly to this Sunday, for example, in looking at LT’s overall ineffectiveness this season; Steelers D will still have to play him honestly, because regardless of his numbers so far no one wants to be the team to give him the huge numbers.
Until Willie drops off the roster, no one will risk letting him break a big one. They’ll play the name, and not the stats.
by Fahey on
Nov 14, 2008 2:40 PM EST
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Arians
Probably an excuse. What other reason can he come up with for the offense performing so poorly?
by WolfpackSteelersFan on
Nov 17, 2008 5:56 PM EST
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Yowza, yowza ...
It will take me a while to consume and assess your post. Agree with the general tenor of the post.
Stray thought re: the running game. Pounding it up the middle has not been successful, but when MM was able to get it to the outside he found some room and some yards [such a run probably would have scored down at the goal line].
I think teams disrespect our running game, not our runners. Put Parker in the same target locations as MM and teams would have pasted him as well.
by tenthmtnman on
Nov 14, 2008 10:19 AM EST
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Hmmm
I believe we have to components to make the running game work, I just believe the play-calling is shoddy.
Running a lot (and subsequently getting stuffed) on first down isn’t good…at all, and yet it seems we keep doing that. Mix it up a little bit, both in when the runs are called and and what runs are called. Run more stretch plays, or against super-aggressive D’s run some counters.
I may be completely talking out of my butt on this, but it seems like we never run counters, and the only reason I can think of (besides a dumb O.C., or me just not noticing) is because we run a zone-blocking run scheme (again, totally unsure as I haven’t really thought about it until just now. Feel free to blow holes in my theory.).
Perhaps what BA said was true (about opponents not respecting the running game with MM in there), but if that’s the case then make them pay for not respecting it. Air the ball out, but then mix in draws from obvious passing formations and/or trick plays (end-arounds, FLEA FLICKERS ;), things involving Dennis Dixon, etc).
by Romain El 82 on
Nov 14, 2008 11:21 AM EST
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I don’t think the Steelers are running ‘zone blocking’ scheme, or at least I don’t remember any stories about it.
I completely agree that they miss the ‘gadget plays’ (as Whiz called them), but I’m not sure they should get Dixon involved. He’d be a good guy to run them but then they’d have to have all 3 QBs active on gamedays, which nobody does. It’s not a huge deal but it would likely mean sending a LB or DB who plays special teams to the inactive list.
by cgolden on
Nov 14, 2008 12:06 PM EST
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You're right
I didn’t even think about the ramifications of having to de-activate someone crucial on gamedays. Good call.
by Romain El 82 on
Nov 14, 2008 12:59 PM EST
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Zone Blocking: I've seen it a few times
And I’m seeing other sites posting that it’s being done. Doesn’t mean that it is obviously but PGH has some posts on it I think.
by Chicago Steeler on
Nov 14, 2008 1:29 PM EST
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No more carries to be had without FWP
We simply can’t run the ball any more than we have in our last two losses. Moore got 19 car vs. NYG and 24 car vs. IND. As mentioned above a couple of times (agree with Steev on BA comment), that’s about all he can do and about all you want him to do. It’s obvious to me that the Steelers don’t think Russel can have a Grant-like performance because they don’t give him the ball in Parker’s absence.
WE NEED FWP BACK. And most importantly, so does Ben.
by The IC Lion on
Nov 14, 2008 11:24 AM EST
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blitz
this research is very impressive. the time and effort you put into this post…incredible…
however, i think that this is a sure sign that we need to find you a girl……
-Hey Romain 82! That Brown’s girl have any friends?-
anyways, outstanding post. what really strikes me is this: 10 years of stats on the, ypg -wise, best defense in the league…Pit is on that list FOUR TIMES!!! that’s incredible. four times the top defense ypg -wise in the last 10 years. ah…that’s why i’m a steelers fan. also, the only other team on there more than once is TB, with 2 top place finishes. not only that, but as of right now, we’re allowing a 1/2 yard per carry less than the second ranked rush d. i’m tearing up right now….
message to ben, arians, and willie “el matador” colon: stop what you’re doing, and HELP this team win football games. if we can score 20 points per game WITHOUT turning the ball over, we’ll have ring number 6.
great job blitz. keep it up.
by NoCal-SteelCity on
Nov 14, 2008 11:39 AM EST
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Hahaha
-Hey Romain 82! That Brown’s girl have any friends?-
Yeah I haven’t met her friends yet, but she’s got an older sister who knows enough about football to keep up.
by Romain El 82 on
Nov 14, 2008 1:01 PM EST
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haha
unlike you, i most certainyl do NOT want a football loving gf. We all have different needs at different times in our life :)
by Blitzburgh on
Nov 14, 2008 1:03 PM EST
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lol +1
nice noCal.
We’ve had so much BS lately round here that we had to show the newer peeps that good content actually goes up :)
by Blitzburgh on
Nov 14, 2008 1:04 PM EST
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Running the ball
It’s pretty common knowledge that the best way to win in the NFL is to jump up on top,primarily via the passing game,and then use the running game to,hopefully,control the ball,eat the clock,and,maybe,wear down the opponent as a side benefit. This would appear to be where the running game factors in the most.
And……with the banged up condition of our running back contingent,just why ISN’T Gary Russell getting more opportunities to be a factor? Odd…
by rissaldar on
Nov 14, 2008 1:25 PM EST
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Two quotes in Today's Post-Gazette
First, thanks to Blitz for the extensive data. This is eactly the unique leadership I was referring to a couple days ago…
Now to Gerry Dulac’s article today. Two quotes jumped out at me and hit me in the face. The first was by Bruce Arians on FWP:
“When you saw him flash in Washington…Nobody was blocking and he got five yards with his speed and explosiveness…”
The second quote was from Hines Ward:
It’s not because we’re getting beat fundamentally; we’re getting beat because we don’t understand who to block…"
Those two quotes speak libraries, not just volumes. When “nobody is blocking” and “we don’t know who to block” nothing else matters. Forget about Ken Whisenhunt, Cowher, the ratio of passes to runs, forget about getting back to "Steeler Football, forget about play calling and Ben did this or Ben did that…Forget about analyzing and treating the symptoms. We need to treat the disease. The symptoms all look ugly because of the disease.
As conservative and anti-knee jerk as I am, I truly wonder whether the Steelers are contemplating a mid-season positional coaching change. The Chargers made major mid-season coaching changes and they are now one game away from the playoffs. Sometimes you need to endure the trauma in order to save a season. If we lose to the Chargers on Sunday once again because “nobody is blocking” and “we don’t know who to block,” the season will be in jeopardy anyway.
If we get it together and start to look like a team who can improve in the trenches and peak in January, then I promise to get off this horse I am on.
Thoughtful discussion with a sense of history
by maryrose on
Nov 14, 2008 2:23 PM EST
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We're not going to change coaches during this season
I fully expect changes after the season, but I would put odds of a midseason coaching change at less than 1%.
(For the record, I assume that we’re talking about about Arians and/or Zierlein.)
If Arians is fired, who would replace him? Zierlein? His unit doesn’t even know who to block according to Hines. Tomlin’s forte is on the defensive side of the ball, so he couldn’t take on added duties on offense. I don’t think it’s feasible to bring in someone from the outside in midseason.
by steeler1275 on
Nov 14, 2008 2:36 PM EST
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I would tend to agree that there be no coaching changes. But, those are some indirectly very harsh words for the coaching staff, and players usually don’t criticize their coaches unless they know there won’t be ramifications.
by steelguy99 on
Nov 14, 2008 3:11 PM EST
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You know how far to the wall these people go
to avoid any comment that is damning. Two in one article says alot.
Thoughtful discussion with a sense of history
by maryrose on
Nov 14, 2008 3:52 PM EST
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Who coaches Hines on who to block?
Or is hines his own coach?
I wouldn’t think it would be Z’s responsibility, so is Ward laying the blame at Arians?
by steelguy99 on
Nov 14, 2008 4:48 PM EST
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Wow.
That’s literally all I can say. Wow.
by Romain El 82 on
Nov 14, 2008 3:02 PM EST
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well said Rose
If what Hines said was true and it’s a locker-room wide problem, then it’s not a hard disease to cure. I think you’re right on track, forget all the symptoms and get to the root of the problem. This isn’t a job for House, it’s a job for a man with a pink slip and bus out of town (for a position coach or coordinator, not Omar Epps).
by cgolden on
Nov 14, 2008 3:23 PM EST
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Perspective and context
Both are critical components of “thoughtful discussion.” [that is not intended to mean that anyone other than the other cited was being less than thoughtful] As to the FWP reference, hard to believe that nobody was blocking during that game or even one play-offense played very well, looked like a whole lot of blocking going on from my perspective; over-dramatizing with that comment perhaps? You’re running with a makeshift offensive line, inexperience, and people playing out of position; one can’t expect them to be perfect, possibly not even adequate. Was Hines actually talking to us? Perhaps he was telling everyone that our expectations are too high for the situation. Who knows as we aren’t privy to the context.
by tenthmtnman on
Nov 14, 2008 5:15 PM EST
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Upon further review
Should read “author cited.”
by tenthmtnman on
Nov 14, 2008 5:19 PM EST
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I am confused
as to how thoughtful discussion or the lack theref has anything to do with anything here. A player and a coach made comments that were reported. If my interpretation and perspective of those comments, and fears in general about the offensive line, are not accurate, then I will be one very happy chap. I would be utterly shocked if Hines was telling us that our expectations were too high, but it would be nice to be wrong about that too. I am praying to see alot of blocking Sunday and just an inch of improvement every week.
Thoughtful discussion with a sense of history
by maryrose on
Nov 14, 2008 6:07 PM EST
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After going under the hood again ...
where did I hear something about the Steelers zone blocking? That could be tied to the Hines Ward comment. Don’t know the exactitudes of this thing called z-blocking, but I would think one would find oneself in a zone having to choose between various targets to block. It could pose a problem. That could be the context of Hines’ comment.
Stray thought re: Hines. I had sent him a letter asking him to train up so that he could throw me a football into Section 535, but since he didn’t score I’ll never know if he trained up or not.
by tenthmtnman on
Nov 14, 2008 5:26 PM EST
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Zone Blocking
is pretty much a system where the OL doesn’t block a specific man, but rather a space. Because of this philosophy, a run play doesn’t have a true “hole”, rather, the running back makes a read, a quick cut, and is off through where ever he saw room to run.
The Broncos used this attack for a long time (not sure if they still do, since their OL Coach went to ATL), and that’s why they were so successful at producing 1000 yard runners-they could identify a RB who would be a late-round pick who could make the quick read/cut and have enough initial burst to get through whatever hole the OL had created.
The University of Michigan also used this scheme during the 2006 and 2007 seasons (they use it now, but under the “zone-read” identification), and was part of the reason Mike Hart was such a beast at the college ranks (other than, you know, he was a beast).
Earlier this topic I made mention (along with one or two others) that we believed the Steelers ran a zone-blocking scheme.
by Romain El 82 on
Nov 14, 2008 6:01 PM EST
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Not that feeble-minded
I know it was mentioned in this thread; I was thinking I heard it during the Washington game or the after game shows in Pittsburgh last weekend.
by tenthmtnman on
Nov 14, 2008 6:41 PM EST
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Ah ok, my bad
I wasn’t implying you’re stupid or anything, just I myself sometimes get lost in long topics like this, and forget where exactly I heard something like that.
Washington might be a zone-blocking team too, as Portis has run that scheme a lot.
by Romain El 82 on
Nov 14, 2008 7:31 PM EST
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You just proved my point!
Thanks for the insight Blitz, my heads still spinning from all the numbers. But you’ve pointed out what I’ve been talking about at the “water cooler” with the guys at work since early October. We give up on running the ball too easily, and we pass often when we NEED to run in the second half of games. In the Giants game near the end of the 3rd QTR, we handed the ball to Moore two or three times in a row, and got two consecutive first downs just before the quarter ended. We started the 4th QTR by throwing three straight passes and had to kick. I think Moore touched the ball on a hand off maybe two or three times for the rest of the game.
I’ve seen too much shotgun formation on 3rd and 2 or 3rd & 3 downs, or throwing two times straight because we either lost a yard or had no gain on a running play. Our offensive line isn’t great, but they’ve shown that they can run block well at times. But they can’t get into any kind of rhythm firing off the ball if we’re only running the rock as an afterthought. As we’ve seen, it only sets Ben up for mistakes.
by harrisrb on
Nov 15, 2008 6:08 PM EST
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great post…What a drop off WHEN teams run under 30 times…Looks like Pitt could use 5 more rushes per game…But, you have to factor in come from behind situations.
In 2006 Billick threw too much and our D tired.
by raven on
Nov 15, 2008 6:26 PM EST
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