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AFC Playoff picture

We have to be careful not to get too far ahead of ourselves, but the playoff picture is starting to come into focus.  Here's a look at the AFC playoff picture and some of the most likely scenarios.  There are 16 teams in the AFC, and only 3 are effectively out of the playoff race: CIN, KC, and OAK.  A couple others would have to put together rather incredible runs to make the WC: HOU, CLE, JAC.  San Diego still has a shot at beating out Denver for the division, although they have an uphill climb.

We should probably pencil in Tennessee for the #1 seed at this point - can you say 2004 Steelers anyone?  The #2 seed in more interesting.  DEN, PIT, BAL, and all 4 teams in the East have a good shot at it.  That's right, Miami has a good shot at a bye week a year after barely eluding 0-16 in 2007.  Just looking at the number of teams and the schedules, it's most probable that one of the teams out of the East goes on a run and secures a bye with a 12-4 record.  Since that division is so balanced, though, it's also very possible that they beat each other up, leaving a bye up for grabs.  Whoever wins the West will probably end up as the #4 seed.

The Colts are the most likely candidate for the top WC spot.  They're 6-4, own tie breakers against BAL, PIT, and NWE, have a fairly easy schedule, and finish at home against the Titans, who will surely have clinched everything by then.  The #6 seed will probably come from the East, although whoever finishes second in the North will have a shot as well. 

Now that we've covered the general picture, here's a look at our path to the playoffs:

First, a quick look at the Steelers schedule.  We've played decently well since the "tough" part of our schedule began with 2 close losses, one close win, and one very convincing win.  The schedule doesn't get any easier: after a Thursday night Bengals game, we play 4 winning teams in a row, including 3 on the road.  We finish at home against Cleveland.  Just based on what we've done so far this year I'd say we should end at least 10-6, we have a good chance of being 11-5, and we're not very likely to make it to 12-4.  11-5 is realistic because it has us going .500 against winning teams while beating up on the lesser foes. 

Obviously job one is winning our division.  Seeing the Ravens get embarrassed by the Giants was a welcome sight.  Their schedule is about par with ours from here on out.  They are 1 game back and 1 divisional game back from us, so if they beat us in Baltimore, it could completely knot up the division.  Point differential (which favors us right now) could suddenly become important.  That game is the biggest one left on our schedule. 

If we do win the division, getting the bye week is important.  It's an extra week of rest for a banged up team, it's avoiding dangerous WC teams in the first round, and it means at most we'll have one road game in the playoffs.  With our OL, that's a big deal.  The Broncos don't seem poised to make a big push, but the Jets, Patriots, and Dolphins are playing well against easy schedules.  We want all those teams to lose as much as possible (even rooting for the Browns tonight), and we really need to beat the Patriots. 

If we don't win the division, we'll still probably make it to 10-6.  With our 2 (at least) NFC losses we have a good conference record, so tie breaker situations favor us.  The Colts are a team to worry about, since they beat us.  Aside from the Baltimore game, the one in New England is the most important. 

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Nice breakdown

So let me get this straight. I’m supposed to be hoping the Brownies win tonight. Hmmm…. this might be difficult. lol

by SoCalSteelerFan on Nov 17, 2008 3:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

AFC record

Our strong conference record should help us in a possible tiebreaker against Baltimore, too. We only have one AFC loss so far, while they have three. Of course, the best scenario is the one in which we clinch the division by embarrassing the Ravens on their home field.

by nycsteeler on Nov 17, 2008 9:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

true

However, they have 3 more tough games against the NFC, while we only have 1, so there’s a good chance that will even out if they beat us. Also, the “common opponent” tiebreaker comes before conference record. It’s unlikely to have an impact since we play the same schedule save 2 games, but if one of our losses comes against NWE and we end with the same record, we’ll have an advantage there too. If all that stuff is knotted up, strength of victory is next, which will probably honor our SD win over their OAK win.

Most of the tie breakers are looking favorable toward us, but as you said, the easiest way to put the division away is going into their house and beating them.

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by BadMaafala on Nov 17, 2008 10:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think the Ravens

will fade away… They still have just as tough of a schedule like you said, and I just don’t see them winning a large majority of them.

by steelerark on Nov 18, 2008 1:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

They are gonna pull a Lions this year

Look at last years Detroit. They beat up on all the lousy teams in the league, got out to a 6-2 start.

And they ended 7-9 if I’m not mistaken.

Baltimore is poised to follow suit. I think 7-9 is very possible for them. They only have a couple easy games left. And I am calling Cincy and Jacksonville easy. Thats still no gimmes.

Baltimore HASNT beaten anybody good.
Raiders
Texans
Browns x2
Dolphins
Bengals

Dolphins are IMO the only semi decent win.

by Mechem on Nov 18, 2008 2:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

say what you will

but I’m still nervous about playing in Baltimore.

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by BadMaafala on Nov 18, 2008 3:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

true....

And its because they get so caught up in the hype that they lose because they cant see the big picture.

They are retarded animals, I hate em and they stank and they gonna lose.

by Mechem on Nov 18, 2008 4:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe the game will get rescheduled to Monday night.

by steelguy99 on Nov 18, 2008 4:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bah!

B-whore is so nothing to worry about folks….

Their so called amazing defense got shredded by the NYG.

In relation, something pissed me off today. Carucci’s power rankings on NFL.com had this to say next to the NYG slot “Nobody can stop their rushing attack”

If I recollect right, we did for the most part….

Anyway, Balty is not going to stop us and while I think it will be a good game, I expect a 14 point win on our end.

by Mechem on Nov 18, 2008 3:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

That’s great that the Giants ran on them, but when was the last time we did? Maybe when Bettis was playing? That was a long time ago. When was the last time we swepth them? 2002?

We’re not going to be able to run the ball. If Ben lights them up like he did last year, great. But is anyone confident that we’ll get ANYTHING out of our passing game? It’s going to be a close game.

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by BadMaafala on Nov 18, 2008 5:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Regardless of that...

Our defense > their defense. Plain and simple. The numbers show it. And all this talk about how great Flacco is, again he hasnt beaten anybody good. He wont the whole year. Miami is gonna be the biggest win for them if you ask me. Maybe JAX.

They were lucky to get 20 points last time and I dont see them breaking 14.

They’ve also had to put more guys on the IR since the last game, whereas we have actually knocks on wood managed not to lose anybody this last one.

by Mechem on Nov 18, 2008 8:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well if we’re going by numbers:

Steelers defense > Baltimore defense
Steelers offense < Baltimore offense

Sounds pretty even to me. Also, Football Outsiders says they’re better, even with the small disparity in strength of schedule. Take that for what it’s worth, but it probably means a little more than just pure yardage numbers.

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by BadMaafala on Nov 18, 2008 9:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Um...

Steeler offense < Baltimore Offense against who?

Baltimore has 13 more points than us on the YEAR. And when you consider Tennessee, NYG both held them to 10, the fact that about 20% of their points came against Houston, and they dont really have much.

Two weeks ago our numbers on O beat theirs, they just had a browns and houston back to back and that allowed them to chalk up 78 points.

by Mechem on Nov 19, 2008 4:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Lets not pretend we haven’t put up some big numbers against houston and the bengals.

by steelguy99 on Nov 19, 2008 5:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

“Two weeks ago our numbers on O beat theirs, they just had a browns and houston back to back and that allowed them to chalk up 78 points.”

… and meanwhile we hung 9 on that dominant Chargers defense. Oh, and btw, if you want to know who they played better than we did, we scored 10 against the Browns, they scored 37 and 28.

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by BadMaafala on Nov 19, 2008 6:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Lol it was a friggin hurricane!!!

Valid point steelguy…

But lets not forget the fact that the browns game was playing in a mild monsoon, the Chargers game we were playing against 11 players and 3 refs…

Youre missing the point. Look at common games against GOOD opponents.
Colts: 31-3 ravens, 24-20 steelers. Who did better?
NYG 30-10 ravens, 21-14 steelers (and willie colon cost us a TD)
Bengals 1: 17-10 ravens, thats it?! How bout 38-10 steelers.

Point is, we basically have outscored them in common games for the most part and have played better defense.

by Mechem on Nov 19, 2008 6:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m sure they have plenty of excuses why they didn’t score in other games, too. Are you really going to count the Bengals and Colts as GOOD defensive opponents? Are you really going to discount the 10 points we scored against the Browns as a fluke, and then credit us with the cheap 38 points we laid on the Bengals? That game was 17-10 with 8 minutes left to play. The Ravens have been penalized more than us, so I’m sure they feel the same way about playing against the stripes.

I’m not saying football outsiders is a perfect way to rank teams, but they’re better than looking at stats and they’re way better than some homer fans at judging things. They have Baltimore’s offense as 9% higher than ours in DVOA and 8% higher in adjusted DVOA. Baltimore’s offense is ranked 17, just behind Dallas, while ours is ranked 23rd, right behind Cleveland.

In conventional statistics, we’re averaging 3.6 ypc on the ground (29th in the NFL), while they’re averaging 4.0 ypc on the ground despite attempting the most runs in the NFL. Our passing efficiency is slightly higher (19th place instead of 21st). They have about 1.5 times as many rushing yards, more total yards, more points, and a better 3rd down %.

They also have an offensive identity. They run, then set up the play action. What is our offensive identity? Our offense doesn’t do anything well, so we don’t have anything to build around. Sure the run isn’t going to help them much against us, but our crappy do-nothing-well offense isn’t going to help us against them either.

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by BadMaafala on Nov 20, 2008 10:05 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Quick Question:

Does anybody know where I can catch Thursday’s game? I dont have NFLNetwork, so i was wondering if there was any website streaming the game live?

by steelersfan86 on Nov 18, 2008 4:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Not sure about a stream but...

If you want to watch it somewhere check some local sports places or Buffalo Wild Wings. I plan on doing the BW’s thursday night with pops cause we get NFL network, but not the games. Some weird deal WOW cable has with NFLN

by Mechem on Nov 18, 2008 4:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Its not great

But NFL.com actually has their own stream of the game. The problem is it is half game and half anaylsis of the game. Not what you should use but if theres nothing better.

by archon095 on Nov 18, 2008 5:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bad Maafala

Best screen name ever

Let's Go!

by jacksteel on Nov 19, 2008 10:51 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

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