Mike Pereira said
On Sports Center this afternoon that, as us edumacated fans knew, that the damn refs blew this call! Final should have been 18-10. They are saying that the Tomlinson flip was essentially the *backwards pass* because obviously the OTHER one was not.
This whole situation concerns me because if the game was on the line this could have been a make or break.........., but than again the Chargers wouldn't have been playing lateral ball to end the game either.
Pretty stinken' scary that even with instant replay the still screw it up! Pereira also mentioned that they need to look at a *new* rule where the refs can go under the hood a second time if there is confusion amongst the zebras like there was yesterday!!!
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I said it earlier
I am tired of the NFL apologizing to the Steelers. It happens way too often………get it right in the first place.
I think since it has no effect on the game and since there was a clear conclusion to the play they should give him the TD back for his stats and such. That would really screw up Vegas………
I know it won’t happen but I see no reason as to why it shouldn’t.
by shleeve on Nov 17, 2008 2:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Actually it does have an effect on the playoff picture...
I’ll quote Pat Kirwan of NFL.com when asked about the importance of the TD taken away.
“Because it was the last play of the game and the decision would not affect a further outcome, I would prefer that they changed the score to 18-10, for this reason: Somewhere before the coin flip in the tiebreaker system for playoffs is points scored. And both teams in this contest are playoff contenders.”
If Bmore beats us by a tiebreaker pts system into the playoffs I’ll have that officials head. And I don’t think i’ll be the only one sharpening the blade….
by SoCalSteelerFan on Nov 17, 2008 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Poor Troy
I couldn’t help but think of the phenomenal pic in the Indy game.
by 36chambers on Nov 17, 2008 4:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
What if
What if the NFL just had a “best interest of the game” rule where a referee has the right to sort of circumvent the rules if it’s obvious that the wrong call is made and it’s a game changing play? Would that really be so bad? I don’t care if they even had to go under the hood and call a “head official” or Goodell himself to get authorization or whatever. Just get the damn call right!
SD’s been screwed on this “oh we can’t review that play b/c the whistle blew” crap. Who cares if the rule is flexible if the end result is the right call. Isn’t that why the rules are in place anyways?
by cgolden on Nov 17, 2008 4:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
totally agree
It’s completely ridiculous that a referee can know that the wrong call was made, but not overturn it. The SD-Denver screw up could very easily put Denver in the playoffs and keep SD out. I’m actually kind of hoping that will happen so that maybe all the bad publicity will force the NFL to improve the system. No more of this “unreviewable” stuff—just get the call right!
by nycsteeler on Nov 17, 2008 9:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think more embarassing, actually,...
…was the blown call early in that SD-Denver game where they couldn’t review a play because the freaking “official replay equipment” was broken, even though the play could clearly be seen on the big stadium screen. That was another time that game in which the ball should have been turned over to the Chargers and wasn’t.
Referees make mistakes; they’re only human. I think that first incident, though, was just embarassing to the league as a whole.
by HinesField on Nov 18, 2008 12:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Here's one dumb (but right) penalty.
I’m somewhat surprised no one has mentioned (unless I missed it somewhere) Anthony Smith’s bonehead tackle on punt coverage. I understand that his head was knocked down and his sight of the punt catcher might have been affected, but he has two jobs on punt coverage: tackle the returner if he runs, DON’T tackle the returner if he fair catches. As a player who has made his fair share of on-field mistakes, I’d imagine that his leash is pretty short for the Steelers organization. A player like Hines Ward can get called for a couple (questionable) holding calls because he has earned his keep within the organization. As Anthony Smith trotted off the field following that penalty, his facial expression looked like he just realized that his career with the Steelers was over. Is his time with the Steelers over? Should we keep him? He is in this 3rd year with the team which means (I think), he might be in his contract year. Personally, I think he signed his fate to be released from the greatest team in pro sports. Now he’ll get to go play mediocre football for the Lions or Bengals for the rest of his career. In fact, I would argue that he is pretty much a complete waste of a 3rd round pick. Shame we didn’t pass on him for a strong, young, mean offensive lineman…
by R.Clemente on Nov 17, 2008 9:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
in defense of Smith
Sproles did make a sudden movement, or at least a little quick juke, to make it seem like he was gonna run with it. I don’t know if this is illegal or not, and I doubt it is, but it certainly faked out Smith who was obviously too busy avoided his would be blockers.
by shleeve on Nov 17, 2008 10:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, but...
I loved this kid his first year. He seemed like he had lots of energy and a lot of wallop.
Anyone remember the HOF game preseason where that eagles guy totally didnt wave fair catch and Anthony Smith just leveled him? The guy was laid out for about 5 minutes.
And I thought “wow great draft pick” but he just seems always a step away from being where he needs to be. And he butchered the pats game last year although who can blame him.
But yeah Sproles DID move a little, and I think the league should make it a point to look at that. Because if its a fair catch you should make every effort to stop moving once you catch it.
Heck we oughta start twitching after the catch to try and lure in a hit.
by Mechem on Nov 18, 2008 12:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree there.
It definitely looked like Sproles took a step like he was about to start running (which is a penalty, btw), but you could also argue he was trying to get out of the way of Smith, given that he didn’t look like he was going to stop.
by HinesField on Nov 18, 2008 12:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Smith
He has ability but he`s one of those players who really does`t have it all upstairs. He will never stop being a screw up.
by SteelerDomination on Nov 18, 2008 12:54 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
The Last Play
All by itself given the outcome doesn’t really bother me. Would prefer Troy get some more press because he deserves it, but my main problem is that call along with how the entire game was called.
13-2 disparity for penaltys? And those 2 they had to call as they were False Starts. You telling me there wasn’t one hold on any of our stud LB’s? There should be a minimum of 2 holds called on the opposing team per game.
All the calls against the Steelers and then the last one to end the game make me very suspicious of the refs for that game. Remember the 5 pt spread – I’m sorry, I would like to think the NFL would not have a problem like this but hard not to think that after that debacle.
I want to know which ref talked with the head ref after he did his review and called it a TD, and changed his mind. I want to know every call he made (and didn’t make) on Sunday. Then review his bank accounts and the bank accounts of his family and friends and see if he made a boat load of cash. Cause this has stink all over it.
by 703Steeler on Nov 18, 2008 12:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I usually
try to be fair-headed when it comes to the refs. I know that this game is very fast, but there were several plays where holding on our LBs, especially Harrison, were ridiculously evident. So much so on one play, that my wife who is just learning football and to love the Steelers even stood up and yelled ’Oh my God, holding!". And to miss a call after replay is completely inexcusable.
by steelerark on Nov 18, 2008 12:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i would agree
And add that the pass interference call that gave SD their TD was ridiculous… And then to pick up the flag for “Illegal Contact” because Ben was out of the pocket? I get that contact is legal, but the proper call in that situation is “Holding” as he wrapped his arm around ’Tone’s waist and restricted him from getting past. It was not a bump or a hand-check. It was a hold.
I also wonder slightly about the spread…. I’ll grant that the hold on McHugh was legit, but no more so then the dozen NOT called against San Diego. But it just felt like the refs were doing anything they could to keep the score close.
by Chicago Steeler on Nov 18, 2008 1:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Glad you get it
Exactly on the Illegal Contact flag. Because Defensive holding knows no limits. It can be called whenever. Thats what is stupid. If he had bumped him that would have been fine, but they just flat out ignored it.
Its like wtf are you guys doing and did you go to Ref Homeschool or what?
And on the McHugh hold, I believe FWP was past him by that point and it wasnt going to matter. He blocked him CLEAN until FWP got away. Yeah he held on too long, but the play was past him.
by Mechem on Nov 19, 2008 4:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone...
think there could be an element of ..“so you want to complain about the officiating?” in the way our games seem to be being called this year?
I know that I’m biased and liable to turn a blind eye on our own missed calls, but jeez – the door should swing both ways. Usually a team of refs that calls so many penalties will call them on both teams – I mean you get games that are ticky-tacky and games where the teams are allowed to play – but when it’s so one-sided it does seem that the refs are either paying extra attention to our guys or are turning a blind eye on other team’s miscues.
On the A. Smith penalty – I think he was lured into it, but what do you do? Does anyone know the rule on fair catch in the NFL in terms of the signal? I remember a college game last year where the return guy waived once, but not twice – and ran with the ball – a sort of fake fair catch. The defending team thought he had signalled fair catch and didn’t try to stop him. Just wondering what the exact rule is in the pro’s.
by SCSteeler on Nov 18, 2008 10:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Here you go courtesy of HinesField further up in these comments.
Brandona
by PrimantisStillersNAt on Nov 19, 2008 1:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
These aren't judgement calls
They are messing up (which is excusable), but they are rules… black and white, written in a book that all refs read (or should read). Thats what I find most disturbing. When a ref doesn’t know the rules of the game he’s officiating, then we’re all in trouble.
Let's Go!
by jacksteel on Nov 19, 2008 11:02 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

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