Steelers Face Improved Bengals Team On Short Rest
Anybody else pleased that it's a short week before we get to see just how much progress the Pittsburgh Steelers may or may not be making as the season approaches the stretch run. Yesterday, maryrose mentioned that regardless of how the San Diego game had ended in the final seconds, he would have felt pleased about the visible improvements shown by Ben Roethlisberger and the offensive line. It's a perfectly reasonable point of view, particularly since he also mentioned that he was also pleased that Willie Parker proved that he can be a difference maker when healthy.
For me though? Absolutely not. We HAD to have that game in my opinion. Why? Forget records and playoffs for a second. What I wanted to see was the team finish a game. Sure we won a few tight games earlier in the year against Baltimore and Jacksonville, but in our latest two tight games - Indianapolis and New York - we failed to seal the deal late. My face was buried inside my jacket as Jeff Reed lined up for the game-winner.
Whew. Ok, that's something to build off of. Of course, a kick in the final seconds has no bearing on the other 59+ minutes of the game, but my hope is that now that we have one of these tight wins against a solid team under our belt, we add a little pep to our step in practice and then go out and play a little bit more loosely, fluidly and confidently on offense. Big Ben can go back to playing more instinctively out there now that he doesn't have yet another sour moment in 2008 fresh on his mind.
So what next?

Well we play at home again this Thursday night against the Cincinnati Bengals. I will provide more info later, but the game can be watched online on the NFL Network's website. It's a good crisp picture and I don't think it's delayed or anything. More details to come. Anyway, with this year''s team, I refuse to pencil in Ws. Not with all the evidence we have that the offense struggles to put complete games together. If it's not one thing, it's been another. For now, I'll personally view every game as a tough one, because in this league, being good for just 2 or three quarters, or for just the first 6-8 plays of the drive isn't good enough. Just about every team, Cincy and Detroit included, are good enough to keep things interesting if you don't step on their throats when you have them down on the mat.
I need not remind you that even though the Bengals have been one of the worst teams in football this year, they're not going to roll over dead against us. For one, its a rivalry game. And not just any old rivalry game. It's payback time, at least so say the Bengals. Payback for the huge hit Ward had on rookie LB Keith Rivers that sent him to the sidelines injured. These are grown men with huge egos and pride. Maybe not to fight for their coach, but certainly to defend any semblance of toughness and respectability against an opponent that has succeeded in beating them up literally and figuratively.
Me? Worried about Hines being on the other end? Nah. Dude knows how to play with his head on a swivel. Like all real players should
And secondly, they actually have been playing better football since their BYE week several weeks ago. They're 1-0-1 in their last two and have gotten much better play from QB Ryan Fitzpatrick than what we saw earlier in the year. The defense has also done a better job, holding down decent offenses in Philadelphia and Jacksonville. Side note: Andy Reid should have been fired on the spot for airing it out 58 times Sunday against Cincy. Sure the game lasted 5 quarters meaning more pass attempts than normal, but Brian Westbrook had just 14 carries for the day, despite averaging more than 4 yards a pop. Unforgiveable.
Anyway, Thursday night provides a fantastic opportunity for the offense to take things to the next level. In an ideal world, Captain Bruce would draw up a nice opening series or two, we'd take a lead, then take to the ground. And stay there for much of the game, with some efficient 3rd down looks to Hines and a couple of well timed vertical passes to Santonio Holmes. But it's the ground game that I truly hope to see emphasized.
We're playing on short rest which means, among other things, that Gary Russel could be strategically used this week in combination with Willie Parker. Yes, Parker feasts on the Bengals, but I hope that Arians isn't intent on letting him eat too much just for the sake of letting him have his time in the spotlight after an unlucky and inconsistent year thus far for FWP.
I have no evidence at all to substantiate this, but I'm beginning to wonder if running the ball effectively at this level is partly psychological. Don't get me wrong, it's flat out easier to do when you have guys like Dermontti Dawson, Alan Faneca, Jonathan Ogden, Jeff Saturday, or Willie Roaf. But as I've said before in other conversations, unlike in college, the talent disparity is not nearly as pronounced in the National Football League. We're cleary somewhere between mediocre and below-average along the offensive line, but we're not flat out awful, particularly at the interior line positions (Guard and Center). Could we possibly improve markedly in this last couple of months by having another couple of productive weeks on the ground, then simply willing ourself to reasonable success consistently?
Who knows. Again, I look first at tangible matchup issues and talent when trying to evaluate how we might fare. It's definitely clear that our current stable of linemen aren't sufficient cosidering the remarkable depth and talent we have at most every other position on both sides of the ball. Yet, I've seen enough now, in both pass protection and in the running game to think we could be somewhere between so-so and pretty good instead of decidedly underwhelming.
Why? Well, couple things. Firstly, we've shown some success running the ball against solid run defenses. The Chargers game comes to mind. So does the Jaguars game. Secondly, most of our pass protection issues have come from outside ass rushers this year, whereas last year, we had both problems at tackle and in the interior of our line. No longer is the pocket collapsing on Big Ben with startling frequency from DTs who have no business pressuring QBs as often as they did last year against us. I think Ben can still get his groove back enough where he can avoid some of the pressure from the outside. And it's worth noting that it's a lot easier to execute the short stuff to Hines, Mewelde and the TEs in the middle half of the field when there's not massive interior DLinemen with their arms raised in Ben's face.
So, that's some fairly unorganized stream of conciousness from me, but to conclude and summarize, I'm cautiously optimistic that we can continue to improve to the point where we can realistically consider us challengers in the AFC. As of today, I'm not yet ready to say we are even though no team truly scares me too much besides Tennessee and Indy. If we can finish off drives, halves, and games on offense with a ltitle more regularity, I'd feel a bit better. But I personally see all the ingredients there.
A resounding win against the Bengals on Thursday would be just what the doctor ordered for a team that's so close to breaking through and becoming more consistent. Ben can put his disappointing stretch of games in the rear view mirror, Willie Parker can again prove why we may be ok if he's got gas in the tank for the stretch, Heath Miller might return to provide Arians with the two TE sets he so supposedly craved, and Santonio Holmes can prove that he's still a threat when his QB and offense is not out of sync.
Lay it all on the line this Thursday Steelers! A ten day rest awaits before playing again, and it's more than likely that Tomlin will give his players at least 4 days rest after Thursday's game to heal up.
With some ever improving health, consecutive wins (hopefully), and more confirmation that we might be more strategically effective running the ball a bit more, the Steelers' prospects could be looking increasingly promising in just a few short days.
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We need to run the ball.
The main thing our offense has been missing this year is a steady ground attack. Moore really held it together but going into this year i thought we would have a Parker/Mendenhall combo, but ended up getting neither for the most part. It is no mystery to me why the offense has sputtered this year. Our line is not built for 3rd and long. So unless we run the ball we will constantly force Ben to be a west coast offense QB, which he is`t. I honestly think the offense is going to catch fire here soon because we have Willie back, the line looks decent, and Ben seems to be reading the defense better and getting rid of the ball.
With our defense, all we really need from the offense is to not suck. We all know the offense is more than capable of being explosive. Maybe with Willie back, combined with Ben getting in sync, who knows, maybe they can piece it all together in time for the playoffs. Once again i believe that our fate will be decided by health going into the post season. I hope we don`t have to limp in like last year. Is it just me or have the Titans not had one relevant injury this year?
by SteelerDomination on
Nov 19, 2008 4:56 AM EST
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I don’t think we should define what Ben is and isn’t. He looked awfully convincing as a west coast quarterback this past week against San Diego. If his ability is to become whatever this team needs to win then he’ll be an amazing quarterback, if he can’t adapt we’re screwed.
by steelguy99 on
Nov 19, 2008 9:32 AM EST
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“maryrose” is a he?
You “hide” a lot in critical situations. Open your eyes and be truly emotionally engaged.
Glad to see that you’ve realized that the rest of our schedule has no sure wins in it.
If blocks such as Hines Ward’s are banished by the rules committee it will also certainly change the return game. It will also mean that many receivers/returners will have little to no protection from teammates after a catch. Should such a rule change be followed by limitations on the defense? Perhaps something similar to the chop block rule where a defender is not allowed to demolish an offensive player who is already engaged by another defender?
At this point, actually for several weeks now, I’ve felt that our team is a contender. However, to seal the deal, the offense has to put more points on the board. While the defense is great, the offense must step it up and get some scoreboard separation that allows the defense some semblance of breathing room. The offense must create a situation where the defense is staunchly defending a 10+ lead, rather than the defense holding a team close in the hopes that the offense can eek out the win.
Always glad to see the Steelers as often and as quickly as possible. While no team would be an optimal opponent at the end of this short week, I am glad it’s Cincy and not one of the others. While Cincy is still a significant threat, it is like a “Bye -.”
Appears to me that there is a general aversion to three running backs and we must always disrespect or bench at least one to reduce the number of accepted backs to two, or better yet, it must be FWP. Steelers should use all three runners tactically, though I fully understand your comment on using Russell strategically. In my mind, what is truly critical is not to use them transparently—FWP is going to do this, then Russell will do this and MM will do this—such transparency makes it easy for the defense. I remain committed to the thought that MM’s goal line failures are on the line, not him, particularly the one against SD [although I am open to accepting the failure as a result of tremendous defensive play]. We are definitely better off with FWP, that is for sure.
It will be hard for Cincy to target Hines. As in rugby, such individual targeting exposes the rest of the defense to compromise. To be sure, given the opportunity to get a good lick in, it will be taken [Good luck Hines].
I hope the Steelers can go into the playoffs healthy, but limping could be their future. Injured players really haven’t had the opportunity to completely heal before we need them back in the foxhole, and I really don’t know of too many injuries that heal during battle. As it will be a scrap to the finish, people will be playing hurt, aggravating injuries and bravely competing with a lot of pain. No wild card game is a must and sealling the deal early is critical.
by tenthmtnman on
Nov 19, 2008 8:00 AM EST
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ha
open my eyes and be truly emotionally engaged…
Ironically contradictory, but I don’t think you quite get that.
You speak from a very high pulpit in lots of your comments. You’ve got big game. Do what I do and bring emotion to writing about a football team 320+ days a year. For free basically. In your spare time. I’d pencil you and your judgmental self for maybe 45-90 days before giving up.
Dont ever tell me to be emotionally engaged again based on a single sentence that you misinterpret compared to the volumes of evidence that say otherwise.
And not sharing your religious views about cursing don’t count, which I know is where your contempt for me lately is drawn from. Again, ironically enough which you wouldnt get because you’re judgmental, my reasoning has nothing to do with religion which you tried to invoke, but simply beause I don’t feel comfortable telling people twice my age in some instances how to behave so long as its not flagrant.
But you interpret that as ‘hiding’.
Cool, dude.
by Blitzburgh on
Nov 19, 2008 8:54 AM EST
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sheesh
where’s SteelerBuddha when you need him?
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by BadMaafala on
Nov 19, 2008 9:52 AM EST
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lol
At this point, with no real analytical substace to the subtle snide remarks, I just want it in my email box, not my site. Tired of it. ‘true emotion’. Pfft.
Anybody ever watched full game on NFLN.com? I saw a few plays of last week’s OT game on my computer, but not sure if it was full feed, delayed, etc.
by Blitzburgh on
Nov 19, 2008 10:05 AM EST
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By the way, I finally watched that movie Koyaanisqatsi last night. It was interesting.
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by BadMaafala on
Nov 19, 2008 10:08 AM EST
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interesting, eh??
Interesting for sure :)
It’s shorter than I remembered so it can be captivating before getting cumbersome. Glad u checked it out. Did the wife join?
by Blitzburgh on
Nov 19, 2008 10:30 AM EST
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yeah
There were some great moments, but I think they drove the “bustle” theme a little into the ground, both with the images and the score. It was definitely a product of the 80’s. I really liked the shots of the run down old buildings with all the broken windows toward the beginning, and the juxtaposition of the early “nature” shots followed by that one long shot of the gigantic plane taxiing until all you could see was the corner of it was pretty ironic. The final shot of the Saturn rocket blowing up was pretty dramatic as well.
I meant to watch it last week when my wife was at a conference, but it was checked out of the library. My wife’s addicted to the “Twilight” books now, so I watched it while she read for an hour. Works for me.
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by BadMaafala on
Nov 19, 2008 11:04 AM EST
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nice
Yea, good call about the 80s theme.
Would be pretty cool to see something similar today without any overt anti America or war type propoganda permeating throughout the movie. But the 80s elements got a little tiresome to look at.
That plane shot was definitely cool with the technology used.
by Blitzburgh on
Nov 19, 2008 11:23 AM EST
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+1
i can’t believe we’re having a discussion about koyaanisqatsi on a steelers discussion site, but i freaking love that movie. i agree that there are moments where it can get a bit tedious, where the message is maybe a bit more hammered than simply presented, and where the images/score reveal themselves to be a product of their time (the 80s), but i still think it is a piece of artistic genius. i continue to be amazed at how i find like -minds here, beyond the steelers stuff.
...die trying
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by agentorange on
Nov 19, 2008 11:47 AM EST
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:)
I reccommended it to a professor of mine in a design course im taking for its visusally asthetic achievements. I hope she doesnt think I take acid in my spare time as a result :)
by Blitzburgh on
Nov 19, 2008 12:03 PM EST
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You called?
Just catching up. Stupid life and work get in the way sometimes. Find you inner peace Blitz and remember that people will always project their own fear and aversion on to you. We love your passion, equanimity and prodigious blogging. May you continue you to tread the Middle Path between high minded sports writing and good old fashion ass kickin’ fun.
And may you continue to run the best damn sports blog on the web. I can’t believe that people talk about Koyaanisqatsi on the Steelers blog. Fantastic.
On that note – I just finished the final episode of the Wire. I believe that someone on this blog posted that it should be made required as a text for graduate school in this country. I couldn’t agree more.
by SteelerBuddha on
Nov 20, 2008 1:19 PM EST
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Well now,
guess I forgot to put the LOL; forgetting that you’re very sensitive. I’ve seen you write several times that you close your eyes, couldn’t watch, etc. I was poking the badger. Apologize that you felt the need to take the negative spin on it. And in reality, perhaps it was you who missed the irony in the comment.
My pulpit is not as high as yours though and you know it. It’s not like I’m the only one with strong opinions on this site, but apparently, I’m to be the only one not allowed to have strong opinions, got it.
I have no contempt for you whatsoever; I’ve no clue where you got that. I have no religious feelings toward swearing and I don’t think I ever expressed religious views about it—only that a swear word is not a fact bearing on “thoughtful discussion” and that while adults have the ability to thoughtfully decide to swear or not, I didn’t think it was a good policy for foisting on the youth who may frequent this site. And if I remember correctly, my comment was in response to a discussion you started on censorship, etc.
by tenthmtnman on
Nov 19, 2008 4:53 PM EST
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Yeah this game is a little scary, since the Cinci defense has been playing well. On a related note, my mother-in-law, a nurse outside of Philadelphia, just helped deliver the baby of some “Phillies” quarterback, which might help explain the suddenly stout Bengals defense.
Anyway, a blowout in this game would have me feeling a lot better about our playoff hopes. The last game against them was closer than the score showed; I’d like to see us systematically destroy them like we’re capable of. I want to see us run over them with our offense and embarrass them with our defense. If we struggle to score on offense it will be clear that nothing has changed.
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by BadMaafala on
Nov 19, 2008 10:06 AM EST
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yea
It was u after the first Cincy game who was truly skeptical. For good reason.
Trying to wrap my head around that first part. Why wasnt this a feel good story like Polamalu’s baby :)
by Blitzburgh on
Nov 19, 2008 10:32 AM EST
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for clarity's sake
McNabb (who, according to my mother in law, plays QB for the Phillies) just had a baby.
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by BadMaafala on
Nov 19, 2008 11:07 AM EST
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Short week....
Just want to point out that the Bengals have a short week, too. And I’m still not sold on Bruce Arians’ offense.
by SteelerChick on
Nov 19, 2008 10:13 AM EST
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wadup chicka
Very true. They have to bounce back on short rest too. And they have to travel. And they played OT. And they’re somewhat soft mentally. So it’s not all bad news at all that its a short week.
You’re not alone about Bruce. I dont think a blow out against Cincy would convince me Arians is the man long term. It should be achievable, regardless of the coordinator, even for wildly inconsistent coordinators with little track record of sustained success like him. We can, and should be able to beat them by 20+
by Blitzburgh on
Nov 19, 2008 10:35 AM EST
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Our secondary depth is still questionable. The injuries to the bengals line are just killer though.
I will look for our D-line, OLBs, and ILBs to destroy Fitzpatrick and force him into making bad throws very quickly. The entire left side of the bengals line should be a turnstile for Keisel, Harrison, and Farrior. They need to bring pressure with four and five early and often.
I’m still crazy worried about our offense. I’d love nothing more than to see an effective running game with 40+ carries split between our three backs, but it won’t happen.
by steelguy99 on
Nov 19, 2008 11:47 AM EST
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Hey Blitz-
Off topic but, have you ever checked out “Tuesday Morning Quarterback” Gregg Easterbrook on ESPN.com? He’s very insightful and funny, really a student of the game. I highly recomend his column to all football fans. He had some great things to say about Sunday’s game…
Let's Go!
by jacksteel on
Nov 19, 2008 11:36 AM EST
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Chipped footballs and artificial intelligence refs. Sort of reminds me of Mutant League Football. Man I loved that game.
by steelguy99 on
Nov 19, 2008 11:50 AM EST
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Just like the NFL
Remember there was a play where you could pay off the refs in that game. I think SD called that play a couple times this weekend. HA!
by CarlWeathersMustache on
Nov 19, 2008 12:51 PM EST
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I wish James Harrison did that play where you knocked off the refs head or knocked them into a pool of lava.
by steelguy99 on
Nov 19, 2008 12:56 PM EST
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wadup jack
I did read it this week but honestly I was so beat I cant recall much of it. I love his stuff, emailed with him occasionally actually. Hadnt read him this season though since Tuesday, even though I generally like him lots.
Fun fact from our email convos: Easterbrook and former Steelers CB Willie Willaims coach together in same middle school team! Told me Williams is a great guy
by Blitzburgh on
Nov 19, 2008 12:06 PM EST
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shudders...
I won’t say I don’t read him some times, but I can’t stand him.
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by BadMaafala on
Nov 19, 2008 12:57 PM EST
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My heart can't take another close one
I dont know about you guys/gals, but these close games are wearing on me. I think its time for another BIG win.
We all know and understand (and get frustrated about) the fact that the Steelers offense has so many playmakers and offensive production has been low, but I think the Steelers are going to break out/score touchdowns on Thursday night. Or at least they should.
With the way the Steelers defense has been playing I see the Bengals having a lot of 3 and outs, which should give the Steelers offense plenty of opportunites to get “rolling.”
As long as the Steelers dont turn the ball over and there are no special teams snafus this should be the game that the offense puts up a big number.
by bradyquinnsclipboard on
Nov 19, 2008 1:31 PM EST
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hopes up
look, here’s the thing: the close games are killing me, too. and while i keep thinking that the steelers should be winning a bit more demonstratively, they don’t, so i’m not getting my hopes up anymore. i have to go into the game thinking that the offense will be inept and won’t score more than 6 points. then, if they do, i am pleasantly surprised…
...die trying
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by agentorange on
Nov 19, 2008 1:45 PM EST
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i'll try your way of thinking
by bradyquinnsclipboard on
Nov 19, 2008 1:58 PM EST
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i dont know
I kinda like close games. Most people i know dont but i prefer the low scoring close games that come down to the very end. Makes it worth watching the game.
by archon095 on
Nov 19, 2008 5:32 PM EST
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lovin' the short week
i know that it wouldn’t be fair to the players and all, but i wish every nfl week was a short week. just got my steelers digest today in time for the game tomorrow night. what’s going to suck is the 10-day wait until the next game. i am speaking purely as a fan here. i understand its good for the players to get some rest and heal up. i have often said that heaven, for me, is a place where the steelers play every day. and win. every day.
...die trying
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by agentorange on
Nov 19, 2008 1:32 PM EST
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if the steelers can come out of Thursday night with a win, 8-3 looks real nice, while we can watch and see how the Ravens and the rest of the NFL collide on Sunday/Monday.
I expect the long wait til the next game will bring with it a lot of positives like the return of a healthy McFadden and Deshea, more rest for FWP and Big Ben, more time for the Steelers coaches to break down game film and improve upon weaknesses.
by bradyquinnsclipboard on
Nov 19, 2008 2:04 PM EST
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They’re going to need it for the pats. They got completely outcoached/outplayed last year.
by steelguy99 on
Nov 19, 2008 2:24 PM EST
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1 Plus, 1 Worry
Plus: Really glad that we are starting to get some of the injured back into the lineup this week and next. Hopefully this will help on execution.
Worry: I am worried that there are distractions in too many players’ heads. The 13:1 penalty ratio, holding Harrison, holding calls on Hines, bounties, et all. It just seemed that too many players were still being quoted in today’s press for a variety of them. Will it affect their heads on the field of play?
by BoiseSteeler on
Nov 19, 2008 3:04 PM EST
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Hey Blitz.
Don’t want to nitpick here or anything, but you might want to change that to “outside Pass rushers” in the 5th-to-last paragraph, unless you are suggesting something different by leaving it as “outside a** rushers…”
by R.Clemente on
Nov 19, 2008 4:18 PM EST
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Woodley and Deebo can chase them some honies.
by steelguy99 on
Nov 19, 2008 4:23 PM EST
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:)
I was a little edgy this morning. Not quite my usual self.
by Blitzburgh on
Nov 19, 2008 10:22 PM EST
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Expect to see...
Defense crushing and the O looking a little better – getting a TD or two. Hopefully they’ll come out of it with a better cohesion and self-belief. If they blow out the gals I’ll be happier than a pig in shit, and if they loose….doesn’t bear thought.
by SCSteeler on
Nov 19, 2008 8:55 PM EST
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Steelers D
I have a LOT of faith in the Steelers’ D this week. I have them on all my money salary cap leagues and just don’t see Fitz having time to get the ball to Housh and Stinko. Our pass D won’t need to cover for very long.
"It's time to plant some seeds. What that means is, hit them in the mouth. Ya know, plant some seeds. Show 'em what time it is." --Levon Kirkland
by steelerinchicago on
Nov 19, 2008 11:10 PM EST
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I agree
blitz. We definitely need to establish the run game. Also what I would like to see is just overall offensive game management from substitutions, clock management, proper utilization of time-outs, plays getting in to the offense effectively and good play selection. these are things that have been also frustrating watching the Steelers this year.
Any thoughts? Go Steelers!
by C-Mac on
Nov 20, 2008 10:16 AM EST
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