Steelers-Patriots: Just Another Game...Kind of
I'm going to kick off my coverage of the Pittsburgh Steelers and New England Patriots matchup with just a couple quick thoughts, before opening it up to hear how some of you interpret the significance of this matchup. I'm curious because the NFL is interesting in that way. Winning is all that matters of course, and there will be several outliers each year that can skew things, but basically you find out things about your favorite team each week based partly on how they stack up against the various levels of competition in the league. You hang with the NYG, you feel good about yourself. You lose to a dumpy New York Jets and Cardinals team on the road, you realize your team has issues.
Anyway, I get the feeling that many people are viewing this game like last year's Patriots matchup. I don't really, even though we will have had similar records heading into both games (9-3 last year, 8-3 this year). New England is not necessarily who we must measure ourselves against though in the AFC. That was definitely the case last year, and we were essentially humiliated, particularly in the second half. This year? New England's just another team really, albeit one with great coaching, the best WR in the game, and other formidable play makers on both sides of the ball. We've seen though that we have what it takes to go punch for punch with the creme de la creme in this year's league. So I'm not viewing this game as a measuring stick for the team's overall potential moving forward.
Winning on the road is hard in this league. I wouldn't be devastated if we came up short on Sunday provided Ben Roethlisberger didn't play unintelligent football and the offensive line didn't have another Eagles-like meltdown. If it's merely a close, well-played game that we come up short in, I'll just be disappointed we didn't get it done. Not ready to nuke our chances for any sort of playoff run.
EXCEPT if...
We get demonstrably outcoached. That goes for both sides of the ball. There's no bigger fan and idolizer of Dick LeBeau than me, but last year was ugly. Granted, we were forced to put a LB on Wes Welker in the slot due to an injury ravaged secondary. But still, New England was literally able to toy with us for nearly 30 straight minutes, and that was after delivering a couple of huge plays in the first half.
I feel silly even bringing up anything related to our defense, so moving on to my more important concern.
Our offense. New England's defense can be had. Even in defeate, the Miami Dolphins put up 28 points, and Chad Pennington found soft spots in the Patriots secondary all day. They're giving up over 20 points per game, and are ranked 13th and 18th against the run and pass respectively. Again, I'm not asking for an offensive explosion, but I sure would like to see Bruce Arians and our offense keep the Patriots defense on their toes for at least part of the game on Sunday.
It won't be easy, and I think Arians can do it. He's had some ups and some downs this past two years. But for him personally, this is as big a moment as any to prove that he's capable of carrying his weight in the team's quest to add a 6th Lombardi Trophy to the case. Bill Bellicheck will be waiting. At least one step ahead.
Other than that one particular matchup in the coaching department, I just hope for good fortune in the injury department and an enjoyably entertaining game watching the Black and Gold. Go Steelers!
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Said It
in the Arians/Belicheat* post so I won’t repeat all. IMO this week is Tomlin’s biggest test of his young career. Win and I feel the Steelers are for real. Lose and their playoff chances will be in serious jeopardy. If it’s another “Ground Hogs Day” and we get out coached again by NE, I will be very disappointed in our coaches…all of them.
Agree Blitz, last year was a travesty and where the Steelers began to unravel. My main wish is if we get into a 4th and goal to go, don’t run Ward.
When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen
by 5020 on
Nov 25, 2008 9:26 AM EST
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Honestly?
More and more I’m looking at this game as a “statement” game. I believe we have the tools to dominate NE. This one shouldn’t even be close. There’s a lot of reasons why it probably will be and most of them rhyme with “I want my check” and “Scary Yinz”, but we should come to this game and destroy the patriots. I’m certainly being a homer and you won’t hear this on the NFL network, but that’s just how it is.
by steelguy99 on
Nov 25, 2008 9:33 AM EST
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Besides
Anthony Smith guarantees it again! What could go wrong?
http://www.metrobostonnews.com/us/article/2008/11/25/00/5856-66/index.xml
by steelguy99 on
Nov 25, 2008 9:57 AM EST
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27 Needs a Teacher
teach him 2 words…“No” and “Comment”
When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen
by 5020 on
Nov 25, 2008 10:31 AM EST
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my cuz in Boston says this is getting big play in NE.
When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen
by 5020 on
Nov 25, 2008 10:31 AM EST
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No comment
I love them getting all fired up. It’s the same crap as last year.
If someone asks you if you are going to win, and you say “If our team plays as it should, to the best of its ability, yes.”, that isn’t anything.
The only answer is “no comment”, because the truth is what Smith says but that just fires up the other team. And the falsehood would be “You’re right, even if we play at our best we’ll lose.” And that demoralizes your team and who the hell says that besides the lions?
Patriots fans need to stop getting their panties in a twist. They probably don’t even know that Smith isn’t playing this year.
by steelguy99 on
Nov 25, 2008 10:36 AM EST
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Stupid
While what he said is stupid, it’s not really a guarantee, and it wasn’t last year. Saying I guarantee we’ll win if we do what we need to do is like saying I guarantee we win if we score more points than the other team. This only gets play because there is nothing to talk about before the Turkey Day games, which aren’t that great this year.
by CarlWeathersMustache on
Nov 25, 2008 2:49 PM EST
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Anthony smith might not say it, but I do. I guarantee a win.
by steelguy99 on
Nov 25, 2008 2:57 PM EST
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So long as you don’t get burned by play-action deep to randy moss after saying it I’m fine with that.
by Chicago Steeler on
Nov 25, 2008 4:06 PM EST
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I’m 100% positive Randy Moss doesn’t burn me deep on Sunday.
by steelguy99 on
Nov 25, 2008 4:22 PM EST
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or A. Smith
Since he likely doesnt even play on defense.
by Jonny B. on
Nov 26, 2008 12:54 PM EST
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Really Anthony? Really?
What kind of a moron makes the guarantee of a win last year, only to be made a jackass of on the field, and then, DOES IT AGAIN??!! WTF? It isn’t like the pats are a team we are going to walk over. The game is certainly winnable, but why give them any more reason to come out that much stronger. The dude isn’t even playing. Errrrrr. Annoying. If I were one of his teammates, I would seriously tell him to keep his trap shut!
by Cdsumm on
Nov 25, 2008 11:31 AM EST
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BFD
Are we really that scared of the Patriots? Does it even matter what he says this year? I seem to recall that Troy and Ryan Clark are the starting safties.
The game is decided on the field, not by what someone says a week before.
by vin2k on
Nov 25, 2008 2:40 PM EST
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Personally I would love to see Tony Hills call the patriots out.
by steelguy99 on
Nov 25, 2008 2:49 PM EST
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“If any other punter besides me plays, and averages you know, more than 10 yards a kick, no one can beat us.”
by steelguy99 on
Nov 25, 2008 4:23 PM EST
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(Cheating) Monkey off this teams back!
I feel this game is very important in not only defining Tomlin’s team identity but to prove to the players that we can overcome the Pats. Most of this decade we have been in the top tier of the AFC and ran into the Cheaters and lost. Sure, an occasional regular season win here and there but the soul crushing season ending playoff loss sticks with a team and it’s players. I feel that if we line up in a two TE set we can run more effectively against the Cheaters and if they counter by bringing the safety into the box we send Miller or Spaeth on a seam route against their aging, decrepit LB’s not named Mayo.
On D, I hope Larry Foote gets splinters in his ass from riding the pine. No offense Larry but the .3 of a second difference in closing speed between you and Timmons will make all the difference in this match up. Ike has to shadow Moss like his parole officer and Troy-Clark need to blow up receivers the second the ball arrives. The LBs need to remain composed while the Cheaters use a dink and dunk strategy to prevent Cassel’s death by internal bleeding caused by blunt force trauma. Our speed at LB needs to be focused more on the draw, screen and wheel route to Faulk out of the backfield. This isn’t their specialty but this aspect of the Cheater’s offense has murdered us in the past.
Last but not least……..I need to win my bet! Before you scoff at this give me a moment to explain. My account rep. with Miller Beer is from Maine and sounds like an extra from Good Will Hunting when he is excited (this may be old hat for many of you but in Wichita Kansas that accent if F ing comical!) “Lobster Boy” (the nickname my customer’s have given the Miller rep.) and I made a bet on this weeks game back in the pre-season and here are the terms: If the Cheaters win I have to buy and wear Cheater gear in my restaurant for the day following the game……..sorry I just threw up in my mouth a little bit at the thought of doing that. If the Steelers win, Lobster Boy comes to my home on Dec. 7th with pizza and is our slave during the Steeler/Cowboys game! Now you truly see the gravity of this match up; keep control of the AFC North, secure playoff seeding and the indentured servitude of a NE fan for the duration of a football game! I say again Steeler’s Nation……this is a must win!
I wasn't hired for my disposition!
by Burgernazi on
Nov 25, 2008 9:37 AM EST
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best of luck
I normally don’t endorse slavery, but in this case….
by Chicago Steeler on
Nov 25, 2008 12:33 PM EST
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Dont take this the wrong way...
But as a ravens fan Ive got to hope you all lose. You guys have been playing spectacular this season, but we’re trying to make the playoffs. Anyway, best of luck… Kinda :-/
Life is nothing but Beats & Rhymes
by Matchz Malone on
Nov 25, 2008 12:12 PM EST
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I think you need us to win
SInce you WON’T be winning the division, you should be rooting for the steelers to win in order to maybe secure a wild card birth.
by Jonny B. on
Nov 25, 2008 1:04 PM EST
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Goodluck from the Ravens
This is a tight race guys, and I hope it would come down to Dec. 14th rematch for the division. This has been a fun season so far and it is going to come down to the wire for sure.
by Mr MaLoR on
Nov 25, 2008 1:16 PM EST
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This is a must-win
Because I hate the Patriots more than any other team in the NFL.
We need to shut down Moss. Welker can have 20 catches for all I care, they can’t dink and dunk on our D and hope to score TDs. We must eliminate the big play.
On offense, we need to secure the football. The points will come if we don’t turn it over.
Oh, and I can’t wait til we cut Anthony Smith. We don’t need big talkers that can’t back it up between the lines.
by JHolmes on
Nov 25, 2008 2:19 PM EST
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We need to take our own advice
Don’t get our panties twisted. This game is not a referendum on Tomlin, the team, Ben or anybody else. It’s important, but no more important than any of the five remaining games. There will be playoff pressure on both sides because the outcome just might make the difference in making the playoffs or no. But there is far more pressure on the Pats. The Jets are growing in confidence, the Colts and the Ravens will have the pedal to the floor from here on out. Don’t get me wrong. Winning a game that no one expects to prevail in would be huge in terms of seeding and placing additional pressure on the Ravens. And it would be sweet to strike a critical blow against the Pats playoff hopes. But if you haven’t already realized it we are in the middle of a marathon, and need to remain level headed game to game. Wouldn’t it be frustrating to go on an emotional binge in order to beat the Pats only to turn around the following week and blow a game against TO and the Cowboys because we blew our wad emotionally the previous game?
by RickVa on
Nov 25, 2008 3:15 PM EST
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not all games created equal
All remaining games are important. The most important is the ravens.
The second most important is probably the patriots. If we don’t win the division we’ll be in a wildcard race with teams outside of our division, principally with teams from the AFC east. The head-to-head win could be huge, and it also helps our conference record and common-game record within the AFC east.
Obviously I’d be happy to just win out, but the pats game is more important than any of the other games besides the ravens, unless we tie the ravens then we need to clean up the browns and a mutual opponent (dallas or titans). We’re more likely to tie the ravens if we lose to the pats though, so lose the pats game and we are setting ourselves up for losing the division and the WC. We could still win at all obviously, but lets just get the win this weekend and simplify things.
by steelguy99 on
Nov 25, 2008 3:29 PM EST
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This game will set the pace for the remaining five weeks!!!
I think that this game will be important because if we beat the Pats, it will be a huge confidence booster going into the Dallas game. 3 more wins and we are good. Hopefully the Jets slow down a bit, not too worried about the Titans because they are vulnerable, and we definately don’t want to give the Pats any playoff hopes. Randy Moss and the pass needs to be shut down regardless. That’s the Pats or “Cheaters” bread and butter. They thrive off of big plays and long passes. Limit sneaky ass Gafney and restrict Moss from the deep zone and we pretty much got this game sealed. Their run isn’t going to get it done against our defense but the pass could hurt us. Man I wish Kiesel was playing!!!
As for the offense, I like what Ben is doing although some may saying he is playing soft, he is trying harder at protecting the ball instead of just slinging it down field. I would rather use up clock reult in a low score win then go for the big plays consistently and get costly interceptions that are difference-makers (Colts game anyone???) O-line is slowly improving but the run needs to get at least 3-5 yds on 1st and 2nd downs. We can’t afford 0-1 yds each carry.
Hopefully the Steelers put Cassel on his ass and the offense comes alive so we can get it to 9-3
by SteelChad88 on
Nov 25, 2008 4:48 PM EST
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Worrisome thing is that Matt Cassell
Is looking like a smoother version of Ben Roethlisberger at the moment. I think they came out of the same draft, about 200 picks apart.
by robert ethan on
Nov 25, 2008 4:49 PM EST
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But no one is as good as Joe Flacco.
by steelguy99 on
Nov 25, 2008 4:50 PM EST
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..Brett Favre’s wife was on some talk show and said that the unwound after the game by going out on “the property” to do a little hunting. Presumably with a light. Or a “pit lamp” as the authorities might say. Shades of Mike Vick going out on “the property” after a game to watch a little “fighting” in a “bull pit” as the authorities would say.
by robert ethan on
Nov 25, 2008 4:55 PM EST
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I respectfully disagree with you Blitz
In my opinion a very average Steeler offense is playing a very average Patriot defense which comes out a wash. The big difference will be the Steeler defense vs. the Patriot offense. Although the Patriots are finding a bit of a groove, they can’t compete with that awesome Steeler “D”. So in my opinion the Steelers have the edge (barring a special teams breakdown).
by Steev1705 on
Nov 25, 2008 6:08 PM EST
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Punter needed ASAP.
Has Ernster been replaced yet? Is there anyone on the women’s soccer team at Pitt that is done with finals that would be available this weekend?
by StinkBomb on
Nov 25, 2008 7:29 PM EST
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Don't care about Guarantees
I could care less that Anthony Smith guaranteed another win.
I’m more concerned about the following.
- Patriots ability to pass on us consistently using 3 or 4 wideouts (happens every year, execept for the game we won in Pittsburgh)
- Who is going to cover Wes in the slot (Gay, Troy, Timmons – oh no)
- Are we going single or double coverage on Randy with Ike and Ryan over the top
- Jabbar G. has been playing well, I believe Mc Fadden if playing can shut him down
- Covering Faulk out of the backfield (Timmons, Troy)
- We need to mix up the coverage schemes on Cassell, he holds the ball and stares down receivers.
- #1 priority is stop Welker, than Moss, and nothing deep /cheap for anyone else.
by 72Steeler on
Nov 26, 2008 12:00 PM EST
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Importance of the game...
I do see this game as important to our team for several reasons:
1) The offense needs to build on its last two performances and rediscover its confidence. We have excellent players on the offense, and they need to get back to excellence. Not that they have to be the best, but being consistently productive is the realistic goal this year (Offense feel free to make me eat my words!).
2) With our schedule – and the amazing Flacco led Ravens behind us – every game is going to be crucial. Get another W – keep the pressure on Bmore.
3) It’s time to wipe some smug-ass smiles off of a few NE staff members.
I agree that this isn’t the same measuring stick it was last year, but it does in my mind serve as a good measure for Tomlin and Arians. I’d like to think that with a much healthier defense this time we stand a much better chance.
by SCSteeler on
Nov 26, 2008 3:38 PM EST
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