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Q&A with Pats Pulpit

Hello Steelers Faithful,

MaPatsFan here from Pats Pulpit.  Blitzburgh and I thought it would be a good idea to setup Q&A's on each other's sites to answer your questions directly.  Before we get to it, a little breakdown of where my New England Patriots are.

Defensively, we're a little banged up with the loss of SS Rodney Harrison and OLB Adalius Thomas (not IR'd, but hasn't been seen in a few games).  CB is a weak spot for us with the serviceable Ellis Hobbs and a rotating cast on the other side, namely aging vet Deltha O'Neal.  The front 3 of our 3-4 (Richard Seymour, Vince Wilfork, Ty Warren) have been solid all year with support from ILB vet Tedy Bruschi and standout rookie Jerod Mayo.  Our secondary is the weak link and if Big Ben can get some time to find his receivers, it'll be a long day for us.

Offensively, Matt Cassel has really come along.  He's developed a deep ball with Randy Moss and is still hitting Wes Welker consistently.  The Pats have also begun using WRs Jabar Gaffney and Ben Watson when Welker and Moss are covered well.  From an RB perspective, you'll see Sammy Morris start for the IR'd Laurence Maroney along with third down specialist Kevin Faulk (seeing more than third downs lately).  Rookie BenJarvus Green-Ellis, promoted from the practice squad a few weeks back, will rotate in to keep legs fresh.  The starting offensive line is back and doing a decent job of giving Cassel some time.  Hopefully for us, Matt Light won't be suspended for his tussle during the Dolphins game.

Enough for now.  Fire away!

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without too much homerism

influencing your answer – what’s your prediction?

by SE7ENS on Nov 25, 2008 4:36 PM EST reply actions  

It’s impossible for any fan to give an honest non-homerist prediction…

by steelguy99 on Nov 25, 2008 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

true, but...

even a fan can objectively look at a matchup and lean towards either their team or the opposing team based on their performances this year to date. both have done well…exceeded expectations even given the patriots’ devastating loss of brady and the steeler’s injury situation, tough schedule, and their…well, i guess you technically have to call it an o-line but i wouldn’t. just curious what pats fans think.

by SE7ENS on Nov 25, 2008 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok, I'll give it a shot ;-)

3 weeks ago, I would’ve said we’re toast by 2-3 TDs. Cassel was struggling in the pocket and hadn’t developed a long ball with Moss. Things changed with the Jets and this past Sunday’s matchup with Miami. We beat Miami with a strong aerial performance, but our defense still allowed 28 points. It’ll be tough for us to put yardage on Pitt’s D given their #1 with 235.4 yards per game. However, the Pats O is #7 vs. #26 for Pitt. I see a strong Pats’ O against a strong Pitt D and a weak Pats D against a weak Pitt O. +/-7…this’ll be a close one.

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by MaPatsFan on Nov 25, 2008 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Here’s a question I’ll never find an answer to without asking.

How have CBs/safeties been playing your WRs generally? Are they usually (and especially moss) given cushions to protect against the deep ball, or are they played tight off the LOS? How have your WRs/TEs responded to the different styles of coverage?

by steelguy99 on Nov 25, 2008 4:47 PM EST reply actions  

CB coverage of our WRs

Moss and Welker were blanketed by the Jets, so Cassel went to the single covered duo of Jabar Gaffney and Ben Watson who had good days. Even swarmed, Welker had 108 yards. Miami mistakenly assumed Moss was not a factor and single covered him. That combined with Cassel’s increased comfort level was a mistake by Sparano. Randy tore up the field.

Moss gets a cushion to, as you suggest, protect against the deep ball. However, Moss has developed some skills inside (which scare the daylights out of me; and LB is going to crush that lanky dude) which sometimes has success at throwing D’s off balance. Welker gets bumped early because he’s the underneath guy, the chain mover, and will rely on his quickness with jukes and jives to overcome being knocked off of his routes.

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by MaPatsFan on Nov 25, 2008 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

To add to MaPatsFan

A good man-to-man corner that gets in Moss’s grill can set him off his game. Ty Law actually managed to do a pretty good job of that in the Jets game until the last play of regulation. In any case, the key is “rolling” a safety over the top. If you single him, Cassel finally sees it and they’ll burn you.

If I had to make a prediction, I think you’ll see about 60% spread or quasi-spread formations to get the DB’s overextended, with our running game being largely cross-bucks, draws and dives.

As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead

by JohnHannahRules on Nov 25, 2008 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I like taylor there

Ike gets a lot of criticism for reasons I don’t know but he does consistently quiet the oppositions #1 guys. Although I wouldn’t dare let Moss go in single coverage all game I think taylor can hold his ground for the better part of the game.

by shleeve on Nov 25, 2008 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I believe Ike has only let up one touchdown all year. He has quietly been one of the best CB in the league this season. There was a nice write up about how he should be in the pro bowl in the trib last week.

by PensFan024 on Nov 26, 2008 8:44 AM EST up reply actions  

He’ll never make it until he gets a few INTs. Well, maybe if he holds randy to 0 catches.

by steelguy99 on Nov 26, 2008 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Ike can also be a very physical CB. He’s a big guy, but he’ll have to be deployed at the LOS to get much bumping going. Against Moss we’ll see what LeBeau decides, but it’d be nice to have 24 get in his face early with some solid help from the safety behind him.

by steelguy99 on Nov 26, 2008 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Face Me Ike

I would feel just fine with Ike one on one with Moss all game (although we all know Ryan Clark helps on the deep ball as well as almost any FS in the league). I think if you put Ike one on one with Randy he gets about 7 catches for 65 yards. If Ike can match up with Randy one on one, you have to like our chances because of the pressure it will allow us to bring by freeing up defenders. I’m getting giddy just thinking about it.

by CarlWeathersMustache on Nov 26, 2008 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s hard to think that Ike can’t hold his own against yet another guy with the last name Moss.

by steelguy99 on Nov 26, 2008 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

hmm

I don’t like that matchup on a consistent basis. Ike can run with him, but he’s not a threat to get an INT. If they just throw at him all day, it’s more likely Moss will make a big play than Ike. He’s also not great at ignoring play action, and believe me, the Patriots know this.

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by BadMaafala on Nov 26, 2008 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Idk about that

Ike can handle just about anyone. Problem is he has boxing gloves on at all times.

But maybe this is the game he comes down with one. At the very least lets pray he doesnt tip them to the other team.

by Mechem on Nov 26, 2008 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh Lord NO

Ike doesn’t stand a chance on jump balls vs. Moss. He doesn’t have the ball skills. If I’m Cassell and I see Moss 1-1 with Ike I’m gonna throw it up and get big yardage 75% of the time and an incompletion the other 25%. The odds are not with us there.

by JHolmes on Nov 26, 2008 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

What about the Cassel

I have a little thought here.

The pats have lost their two games against the top defenses they have played.

The best defenses they have played so far, Jets at 13th, and Miami at 20th. They lost a game to each.

By far, Pittsburgh’s #1 Defense is the most difficult they stand to face all year. So how do you think Cassel does?

by Mechem on Nov 25, 2008 5:01 PM EST reply actions  

Spread offense

NE is 7th in offensive yards per game. Given Pitt has the #1 D, I think Belichick will spread the field with 3-4 WRs. D’s usually key on Moss and Welker for obvious reasons (most dangerous Pats WRs, IMO), so Jabar Gaffney and Ben Watson will probably be Cassel’s first read. I see a 200-250 yard game in the air and a 50-100 yard game on ground.

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by MaPatsFan on Nov 25, 2008 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll take the low end.

250-275 yds total sounds about right.

The final score will hinge on the turnover differential. If Pittsburgh protects the football, they’ll win.

by JHolmes on Nov 26, 2008 5:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I heard the Steelers are looking to trade Big Ben in the Offseason, any chance they trade him straight up for Matt Cassel? If not what about a package deal like Lamar Woodley and Ben for Matt Cassel?

by frankrmineo on Nov 25, 2008 5:20 PM EST reply actions  

I think we should throw Silverback and FWP in that package.

by Mechem on Nov 25, 2008 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Lets throw in anthony smith too just for shits and giggles.

by steelguy99 on Nov 25, 2008 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Cassel

Brady’s condition and rehab has been as secret as the US missle launch codes – nothing from Foxboro, MA. My thoughts? Brady may not be ready for 2009 given 3 post operation procedures to fix infections. I think, best case, he’s in the mix 4-8 games into the season. That being said, there’s a pretty high probability Cassel will be franchised.

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by MaPatsFan on Nov 25, 2008 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I mentioned awhile back, the possibility of Brady..

..being “Bledsoed” in New England. Normally that wouldn’t seem possible, but given the uncertainty of Tom’s recovery and the composure of Cassell, the possibility seems more real today. Tom will be 32 years old and recovering from multiple knee surgeries before he ever hits the field again. If Cassell gets the team into the playoffs and has some success……….

by robert ethan on Nov 25, 2008 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Ive already thought the same thing

When Brady was put on IR, I said this dynasty is officially over. No more Super Bowl rings for this team, period.

Brady WILL NOT return to his former self. This knee repair hasnt gone smoothly and at his age it isnt going to go well to start. And when you factor in a diminishing O-line, lack of a true star RB, and weaknesses on the defense, they are not going to last.

by Mechem on Nov 25, 2008 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Flawed analysis.

Mainly because this team isn’t the same team that won in 2001, 2002, 2004. There have been fill-ins and replacements all along that continuum. You may be right, that there’s no more rings in our future. But as long as the Pioli/Belichick team persists, we’ll have a shot.

As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead

by JohnHannahRules on Nov 25, 2008 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah but they were good last year

Granted this isnt the 2001 2002 2004 team. But the damn team went 18-1 last year. Thats pretty good. So when the only real piece you remove is Brady, its easy to see where the team lies. And I just dont see him recovering to his true form.

Its not Belichick that makes this team win, its the QB play. Belichick isnt a genius contrary to popular belief. He didnt kick a FG which could have been huge in the SB. He made mistakes in other games this year. Almost cleveland like errors.

by Mechem on Nov 26, 2008 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

We're missing a lot more than Brady.

I’ll give you that he’s a great QB. But we’ve jettisoned much, much more—this is nothing like the team we had last year, even though we entered pre-season looking good. Here’s a rundown:

Lost to free agency: #1 CB Asante Samuel, who has not been adequately replaced.

IR: Starting running back Maroney.
Out (until last week): 2nd string RB Morris (reinjured, probable)

Still out: 3rd string and short-yardage RB Jordan

1st 6 weeks of the season: down 2 starting o-lineman.

Next 2 weeks of the season, down 1 starting o-lineman.

1st, 2nd, and 3rd replacement lineman on IR since 3rd week of preseason.

Week 2-7, pass rushing DE Jarvis Green (replaced Wilfork on 3rd downs)

Last 3 weeks (and for the rest of the year) Starting outside linebacker and sack leader Adalius Thomas.

Thomas’s 1st backup OLB Shawn Crable

Since week six and for the rest of the year, starting strong safety and the only thing holding our DB’s together, Rodney Harrison.

Backup safety Tank Williams.

Nickel CB Terrance Wheatley.

Belichick is not perfect, and I would never argue that. But with all that, he’s plugged in a guy who hadn’t started a game since high school and has us in contention for the playoffs. Taking this season together with his record for the past decade, and he is clearly one of the best coaches the modern game has seen, and easily one of the top 2 or 3 now coaching. If you can’t see that, you don’t know football. QED.

As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead

by JohnHannahRules on Nov 26, 2008 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

The patriots are ranked 19th in total sacks right now. Is that due to scheme or ability, and what percentage would you guess of those are coverage sacks?

There’s no question the pats will be blitzing, and there’s no question that our O-line sucks. How much pressure will your front 3 get against the O-line and how much pressure will the LBs get?

by steelguy99 on Nov 25, 2008 6:10 PM EST reply actions  

Sacks

I’ve never seen the Patriots as a great sack team. Opportunistic is more the way I see it which leads me to believe 70% of the sacks are coverage sacks; it’s just not a “core competency” as we say in the biz world. DE Richard Seymour is our sack leader with 7, so I think the front 3 (Ty Warren, Vince Wilfork, Richard Seymour) will generate most of the pressure with the 4 LBs coming up to plug the gaps and/or hang back for underneath routes. This is a real switch from years past where OLB Mike Vrabel was the pressure man.

That being said, I believe the Pats front 3 is one of the best in football and will have a good day against Pitt’s O line

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by MaPatsFan on Nov 25, 2008 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

This is very good news for Pittsburgh.

by steelguy99 on Nov 25, 2008 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

We lost a lotof juice when we lost Adalius Thomas.

He was generating the majority of the pressure until he went down. W/ Rodney done, we also don’t have a blitzing safety. I haven’t seen us bring more than 5 in a while—the “big blitz” just isn’t in the books right now.

As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead

by JohnHannahRules on Nov 25, 2008 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I dont think

the Pats front 3 with have a great time against our O-line. Of course, I could be wrong. The O-line typically struggles with speed rushers or LBs coming through the line. I wouldn’t define the Pats front 3 as speed rushers and they certainly aren’t LBs. That being said, however, Mayo may be in for a big game.

by shleeve on Nov 26, 2008 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Ma Pat...

Any word on Matt Light? What’s going on with that?

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by maryrose on Nov 25, 2008 7:08 PM EST reply actions  

Radio silence

We just got our starting O line healthy and back in the mix. It’d be a bummer for us if Light was suspended.

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by MaPatsFan on Nov 25, 2008 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Light

Yeah I think both guys should get the suspension. I am not against self defense, but if you start wailing on a guy you deserve a suspension. They teach you that in school. Hell I was suspended lots of times for defending myself. Its BS but its the system.

by Mechem on Nov 25, 2008 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't condone what Light did one bit, but...

…Crowder submarined him on a meaningless play, got up and shoved Light.

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by MaPatsFan on Nov 25, 2008 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Light was the clear instigator

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T-J-k7zehA

He pulled 52 down by the back of his helmet, ripping it off. Then, when Crowder showed his obvious displeasure by getting up and shoving Light, he grabbed him by the hair and started punching Crowder in the head.

Light should have been the only one suspended or fined. Crowder didn’t throw a single punch, and got out of the altercation as soon as he could.

LIght should have been automatically suspended for a MINIMUM of two games. If Goodell wants to fine players for clean hits that are “too violent,” I don’t understand how he can rationalize levying an equal fine (only $15k???) on a player that was obviously trying to use his fists to injure another player. It’s absurd. Since when did a right cross become the same as a textbook block?

The NFL has zero credibility when it comes to enforcing stuff like this.

by JHolmes on Nov 26, 2008 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Light is lucky...

If he were a Steeler I’m sure things would be a little different…

by SCSteeler on Nov 27, 2008 8:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Mutual combat.

I think it’s a push. Given the other fights around the league this year, I’d prefer not to see any suspensions.

As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead

by JohnHannahRules on Nov 25, 2008 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Light should get suspended, but I only say that as a steelers fan. If Kemo started wailing on someone I’d want him to just get stuck with a fine.

by steelguy99 on Nov 26, 2008 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

They both should be suspended

This is really a no brainer. It doesn’t really matter whether it happens this week or not. I don’t think Matt Light is the sole determiner of this game, but the childish shit that went down during the Pats/Dolphins game needs to be addressed by the league or they have their priorities completely out of whack.

by BallsofSteel on Nov 26, 2008 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Adam Schefter reporting...

No suspension…this week.

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by MaPatsFan on Nov 25, 2008 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

poopy

I think its BS both guys got off.

Roger goodell just singles people out man. Lets fine Hines ward for good clean hits and then lets do EXACTLY the same thing to a guy who punched a dude out on national TV. Which crime was worse. hell, which was a crime to begin with.

by Mechem on Nov 26, 2008 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I almost hate the Patriots too much to post anything in here. Anyway, Cassel got hit a lot early this season, but the sack numbers have died down some. Is this a function of the OL improving, Cassel improving his release, the WR’s getting open, the defenses you’ve faced, or other factors?

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by BadMaafala on Nov 26, 2008 9:03 AM EST reply actions  

Short answer: Yes.

The line has improved: we had a lot of replacements in early in the season; we’ve had the original starters back for only about 3 games.

At the same time, Cassel has gotten better every week—both at moving in the pocket and at getting a release.

Those two factors have helped him to find more deep routes, which opens up the short stuff more. So it’s kind of all three.

As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead

by JohnHannahRules on Nov 26, 2008 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

whoa

You play with some original starters? That sure sounds pretty sweet.

by steelguy99 on Nov 26, 2008 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I know. It's really great--

especially since Matt Light escaped a public hanging.

Early in the year, though, it was a real sh*t show. Brady got mangled when we had one of our turnstile backups in, and it took 6 weeks to finally get everyone back.

As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead

by JohnHannahRules on Nov 26, 2008 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Reducing sack numbers

I think you did a good job of hitting on a lot of the reasons. In the beginning, Cassel would get jittery and go sideways, becoming a sack target. Nowadays, he’s gained a better pocket sense and is also moving “up” in the pocket. He’s quicker to throw the ball into the third row when there’s noone open, too. Our O line starters are back as well and giving Matt more time; that’s been huge and reason enough for us Pats fans to be nervous about Matt Light possibly getting suspended.

For the first 4 or 5 games, Moss saw very few looks from Cassel. Instead, Matt opted for higher percentage underneath routes to WR Wes Welker and RB Kevin Faulk. Now that Moss is a legit target, we’ve been able to spread the defenses with 3-4 receiver sets. That just gives Cassel more targets. Or course, playing against the #1 D will be a different story.

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by MaPatsFan on Nov 26, 2008 10:52 AM EST reply actions  

follow up q

Would you say that you’ve got above average pass protection (including the QB’s, WR’s, and OC’s roles in that) at this point? Do you think you can keep the pressure at a reasonable level?

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by BadMaafala on Nov 26, 2008 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Above average is about right

Cassel’s doing great, but I think it would be hard to argue against Brady being one of the best in the biz when it comes to pocket presence. That was a huge difference maker for us. The O line is back and pretty solid; as starters filtered into the lineup over the last 3-4 weeks, we’ve seen sack numbers steadily go down. Wes is Wes and is very elusive, but is small and can be bumped. He’s great after catch (I love watching DBs trip over themselves when he stops short ;-)). Moss is slow to start, but I think he’s becoming a huge weapon as Cassel gets more comfortable.

The thing that worries me is another Giants like performance on D. They tore apart our pass protection and the Stillers’ D is certainly capable of that. In my mind, the key to a Patriots win is forcing the Stillers D into too much of one thing and then going the other direction. Ex: spread the field with 3-4 WR sets, then dump to RB Kevin Faulk as the chain mover.

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by MaPatsFan on Nov 26, 2008 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

oh yeah

[cheap jab made in attempt to repay the Patriots for all our shattered dreams]I forgot about that Giants game. Huh. That was something, eh? [/cheap jab made in attempt to repay the Patriots for all our shattered dreams]

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by BadMaafala on Nov 26, 2008 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I totally missed that game. Could you give me an entire replay of the 4th quarter please, just to fill me in?

by steelguy99 on Nov 26, 2008 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Ohh, that hurt... ;-)

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by MaPatsFan on Nov 26, 2008 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Can I say all 3? ;-)

I’m gonna go with Rodney Harrison. He’s a smart player and he hits hard. You’d often see him up in the box when he noticed something wasn’t going deep. But, his biggest asset was as an on-the-field coach for the DBs. He routinely moves guys around when a scheme is noticed.

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by MaPatsFan on Nov 26, 2008 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Running the ball

The patriots are quietly doing a very good job running the ball. Is this primarily due to your offensive line creating holes, RB ability, or bad run defenses? Only lately has the passing gotten “out of hand” with cassel, so it doesn’t seem like historically you’ve been taking advantage of over-the-top pass coverage to run the ball…

No one expects the patriots to be able to run the ball. As you allude to above though, the patriots could have success by spreading the field and then going to the run. I think that’s probably their only shot at a decent running game. Will the patriots come out passing or will they give running a shot just for shits and giggles?

by steelguy99 on Nov 26, 2008 5:03 PM EST reply actions  

Running Game

I’d like to say a stellar O line, but we had at least 2 starters out for the first 6 or 7 games. I hate to admit it, but I think opposing run Ds were not that solid. The best D we faced was Indy. We were able to run all over them, but Dungy had made a conscious choice to allow that and shut down Welker and Moss – it worked.

A positive of all this is our RBs were so banged up (Laurence Maroney IR’d, Sammy Morris missed 3 or 4 games, power back LaMont Jordan is on his 5th or 6th missed game) we reached into the practice squad for BenJarvus Green-Ellis and he’s been doing a fine job along with fan favorite Kevin Faulk. Morris was back last week and is still getting his legs under him.

That being said, the Stillers have one of the strongest run Ds in the biz and I don’t think that’s lost on Hoodie. Cassel’s just come off of a few good games in the air, so I predict they come out throwing to test the waters.

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