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Mbean_tiny by Blitzburgh on Comment 654 comments

Ok Steelers fans. Two hours away until we see how we'll respond to our late collapse against the New York Giants last Sunday. A win here against a very competitive Washington team would have to make us feel good about our team, even if the offense once again plays inconsistently. It will take solid play, at least for part of the game, in all three areas of the game for us to escape FedEx Field with a win.

My keys:

1) Find a way to get Willie Parker involved while still utilizing what Mewelde Moore brings to the table.

2) As always, keep Big Ben upright. If that means incorporating quick hitting pass plays and unexpected running plays, let's hope Arians has designed some new looks.

3) Survive in the secondary without Bryant McFadden and possibly Ryan Clark, depending on his shoulder.

4) Limit the Redskins' big plays on special teams, as well as execute with our new long snapper.

5) Convert in the red zone, as well as force the Skins to settle for 3 when they breach our red zone.

I'll be here all game. Join me in cheering on the Steelers as they traverse into the largest and one of the loudest fields in the league.

HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!!!!

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need a fast start tonight..dont want to get behind 7 or 10 quickly, then us resort to throwing too often, which would let them start the mad rush towards Ben

by Blitzburgh on Nov 3, 2008 6:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

B Mc Fad

Great point on McFadden…I’m wondering why more people aren’t bringing him up. He hired Rosenhaus this off-season for a reason. He looked fantastic in replacing Townsend, and honestly, my wish was he played like that without Rosenhaus as his agent. He’s gonna ask for Clements-like money, and there’s no chance the Steelers are going to give him that.

by ncoolong on Nov 3, 2008 6:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

probably right

this injury to him wont help his market value perhaps though. i dunno, i think it depends what we decide to do with marvel smith partly. if we let him go, perhaps there’s enough money to re-sign b-mac. but i think i agree. i think he’ll follow the $$$

by Blitzburgh on Nov 3, 2008 6:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm hopeful

I feel like the steelers might be able to get him on a short term contract. B-Mac knows that he’ll be starting next year with us and that based on the defense we’ve got he’ll have an opportunity to make a lot of good stats. His value is down because he hasn’t started a season and he’s been injured this year. If he takes a 3 year deal to stay for a little less then market he could line himself up for one big contract when he’s out of that based on the thought he’ll have a better chance to prove himself here then some place like Oakland.

by Chicago Steeler on Nov 3, 2008 7:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

off to the bar

Will miss ya’ll during the game as I’m off to the bar straight after work. Normally I like to be obsessive and loud in my living room, but cutting down on costs removed cable from my life, thus I’ll be out in public for this one. Hope it doesn’t get ugly.

My Keys: (for their minimal worth)
1. Make Jason Campbell beat us.
If we keep all big plays to a minimum and stack up their running game so that they’re facing 3rd and 5+ I like the steelers to win those matchups enough to win the game.
2. Don’t let our offense beat us.
While I get annoyed with BA’s play calling and his basic hand-cuffing of our offense, this year could be all about defense. We could reign big ben back to 2004 status of just making the easy reads and letting the defense win games and grind out what we can on offense. I love Ben’s ability to make the big play, but for the love all that’s holy that defense is ridiculously good. Let them win it. Just take the points where we can get them.

And with that, I believe we win it! I know football’s almost never that simple but I feel like it’s basically stop the run and don’t turn the ball over and we win this game.

by Chicago Steeler on Nov 3, 2008 6:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I can't wait for the game!!!

Bout to put on my Steelers gear, and head out to be swarmed by redskins fans. I really feel like this game is a must win for us! I see us heading into a downward spiral if we lose with the upcoming games!! Come on Black and Gold!!! Do This!!! NOW!!!

by Cdsumm on Nov 3, 2008 6:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

think i may agree

Could get ugly moving forward if we again struggle to find any sort of identity on offense and maintain it for close to 4 quarters

by Blitzburgh on Nov 3, 2008 7:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

NFL "Predictions"

Does anyone else get really annoyed with ESPN’s Fantasy predictions before games?

Roethlisberger 16-for-28 160 yards 1 TD 1 INT?!? Wwwwhhhaaaa?!? To quote Stanley from The Office, “Have you lost yo’ mind, cuz I help you FIIIIIND it!”

Ben did his Perfect Pushups this week, he’s gonna tear it up…

by ncoolong on Nov 3, 2008 7:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

“If JEEEsus walked through that door right now, he wouldn’t be able to save you.” I’m liking the Stanley love.

On a related note, they had Gostowski kicking for 19 points, which is pretty ridiculous. I wonder if they just let a random number generator run for a while.

Brandona

by PrimantisStillersNAt on Nov 3, 2008 7:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i have a

uncle living in washington, and loves the skins. when we were losing against the giants, all he did was text me constantly going: interception…hahahahaha…ha! Or the steelers r gonna get creeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeemed by the giants.

The grass may be greener on the other side, but it still has to be mowed

by PsycoSalameh on Nov 3, 2008 7:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i think the main thing we need to do on defense is

SHUT DOWN CLINTON PORTIS!!! did anyone see his numbers last week? they were like 21 carriers for 145 yards or something like that. everytime i watch this guy play, im just thinking to myself…Thank God i dont have to play defense on him, i mean he just runs all over the place.

The grass may be greener on the other side, but it still has to be mowed

by PsycoSalameh on Nov 3, 2008 7:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Portis

Five straight games with 120+ rushing yards…perhaps the best five-game streak this defense has been against since Lewis in 2003.

by ncoolong on Nov 3, 2008 7:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ya but...

Portis is much more elusive than Lewis. lewis is more of a downhil-tip-toe-stepper-bulldozer. Portis is an elusive-physical-dominator.

The grass may be greener on the other side, but it still has to be mowed

by PsycoSalameh on Nov 3, 2008 7:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

True...

I’m just talking about the momentum he has going into this game, not about their respective styles.

Lewis had like 70 yards in the first quarter, and ate his ass the rest of the way. Too bad we were so bad that season, it was an epic Ravens-Steelers game.

by ncoolong on Nov 3, 2008 7:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

alright...

i gotta go now, i might be back during halftime or at the end of the game,

 GO STEELERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The grass may be greener on the other side, but it still has to be mowed

by PsycoSalameh on Nov 3, 2008 7:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Online telecasts, streams, etc?

I don’t have cable, and due to birth of my second son (just ONE day before Troys!) I will not be able to head 40 minutes out to the nearest pittsburgh bar.

I don’t think the nfl.com site will have the companion broadcast tonite, so only other place I’ve been able to find it is at:
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=22372&part=sports

which uses tv ants, better than nothing, but 141k is a little hard to watch sometimes.
 
Anyone know of a good stream for the game?

by SteelersVT on Nov 3, 2008 7:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Congratulations!

Yeah…can’t really help ya. I know NFL.com has the audio, but no video for MNF.

by ncoolong on Nov 3, 2008 7:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Go Steelers!

Please beat up the Skins, in more ways than one.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Nov 3, 2008 8:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Willie

"It's time to plant some seeds. What that means is, hit them in the mouth. Ya know, plant some seeds. Show 'em what time it is." --Levon Kirkland

by steelerinchicago on Nov 3, 2008 8:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Stupid Moss

He wasnt supposed to play today

by archon095 on Nov 3, 2008 8:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Don't care how they do it

But I need them to win it tonight. I live in the District, and let’s just say I have not been quiet about how the Steelers were coming into this town to Tear. Shit. Up. tonight. If I have to go to work tomorrow with a loss to my credit… Well, it won’t be pretty.

So, shut down Portis, get FWP moving, keep Ben standing, whatever — LET’S JUST DO THIS!!!

by DistrictSteelerFan on Nov 3, 2008 8:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think

Holmes gets a long catch and run tonight off the blitz.

"It's time to plant some seeds. What that means is, hit them in the mouth. Ya know, plant some seeds. Show 'em what time it is." --Levon Kirkland

by steelerinchicago on Nov 3, 2008 8:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

No.

Greg Williams was notorious for not blitzing very much even when the pass rush from the front four was not very effective. Blache has inherited this same mentality.

This could change tonight, but I wouldn’t expect a ton of blitz.

by Aldo on Nov 3, 2008 8:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

just got home. was curiouis why they had the ball down there. Onsides try? wow

by Blitzburgh on Nov 3, 2008 8:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

We would be crappin ourselves if they'd gotten it

I like the balls it took

"It's time to plant some seeds. What that means is, hit them in the mouth. Ya know, plant some seeds. Show 'em what time it is." --Levon Kirkland

by steelerinchicago on Nov 3, 2008 8:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i don't get that onside kick?

our defense is gonna stop them either way so make them punt from the 20 and get the ball at the 40

by Save us on Nov 3, 2008 8:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

crap

interception

by Alba on Nov 3, 2008 8:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

wow

what a fucking start

by Blitzburgh on Nov 3, 2008 8:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

hahaha

bounces off max starks. WOW

by Blitzburgh on Nov 3, 2008 8:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

calling on the D again

Ben’s gotta give ’em a rest

by Alba on Nov 3, 2008 8:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Are you ready for some football?

Because I am

=====Curly R: The Redskins Blog=====

by thatguyben on Nov 3, 2008 8:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i bet u are :)

Just what the doctor ordered for yall to start. Now its time for us to start panicking! Great :/

by Blitzburgh on Nov 3, 2008 8:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Steel defense is solid

this game will settle down at some point

=====Curly R: The Redskins Blog=====

by thatguyben on Nov 3, 2008 8:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

at least they cant move on us

by archon095 on Nov 3, 2008 8:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

this is why the skins pass rush is underrated

They dont get lots of sacks but Ive read in multiple places that they bat down TONS of balls

by Blitzburgh on Nov 3, 2008 8:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This got talked about a lot more in previous years than this year, but it’s a good point.

by Aldo on Nov 3, 2008 8:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, the numbers dont reflect it, but a lot of his recent interceptions were not his fault

by neverender on Nov 3, 2008 8:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

need a good drive

Ben needs to work Heath in to the Offense more often

by Steeltown21 on Nov 3, 2008 8:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The Skins are infamous this year

for getting a lot of yards without scoring much. They’ve been fortunate so far in bucking that trend.

by Aldo on Nov 3, 2008 8:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Onside kick?

Just terrible. If it was at the 50 or so, maybe….but the opening kick??@?$?%

by Ragnar808 on Nov 3, 2008 8:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

ok nice first down play

Can we please establish the run

by Blitzburgh on Nov 3, 2008 8:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I agree run, run, run and run again.

by Ragnar808 on Nov 3, 2008 8:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

2nd and medium situations

These are the plays that we seem to really suck at. I dont want to see a 2 yard run here.

by Blitzburgh on Nov 3, 2008 8:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

liked the quick pass to Holmes

too bad it didn’t pan out

by Alba on Nov 3, 2008 8:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Screen plays

WHEN will the Steelers develop a simple screen play to counter the blitz? Is it THAT hard?? Or a little quick slant? SOMETHING!!!!

by Ragnar808 on Nov 3, 2008 9:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Throw it to Moore on a screen!!!!

by Ragnar808 on Nov 3, 2008 9:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

defense has been good

why do our cbs play 13 yards off every play?

by Steeltown21 on Nov 3, 2008 9:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

don't know if you're seeing these political commercials too

watching in Pittsburgh using rabbit ears… I’m so tired of the ads… so ready to vote

by Alba on Nov 3, 2008 9:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

well steelers win

and obama is the next prez

by Steeltown21 on Nov 3, 2008 9:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

That “rule” didn’t work last year, so MNF had some crazy convoluted way of phrasing it this year to make it seem predictive.

by Aldo on Nov 3, 2008 9:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The way they usually state is based on the incumbent party winning or losing based on the Redskins. MNF explained it this year by saying “the party that won the popular vote the last election” instead of incumbent. This explains 2004 because Gore won popular vote in 2000. Pretty shady if you ask me.

by Aldo on Nov 3, 2008 9:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Holmes

hes dropping everything

by archon095 on Nov 3, 2008 9:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Holmes

c’mon man

by Alba on Nov 3, 2008 9:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

If Tomlin is so smart, why doesn’t HE start calling the plays? He can do that, right?? Move aside Bruce!

by Ragnar808 on Nov 3, 2008 9:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

damnit

Was going to be really pissed if Berger tried to ‘gut it out’. Stupid

by Blitzburgh on Nov 3, 2008 9:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, seems like an important position to have healthy!

"It's time to plant some seeds. What that means is, hit them in the mouth. Ya know, plant some seeds. Show 'em what time it is." --Levon Kirkland

by steelerinchicago on Nov 3, 2008 9:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Berger’s career is probably over if he doesn’t ‘gut it out’. It’s selfish but I’d do the same.

by steelguy99 on Nov 4, 2008 9:40 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Berger

His hammy is obviously still hurting him.

by Hines Ward on Nov 3, 2008 9:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ha.

Best division in football.

But I see your point.

Yes, I am a nerd.

by TexSkins on Nov 3, 2008 9:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lol 12-4...

seems as likely as bruce arians ever figuring it out

by Blitzburgh on Nov 3, 2008 9:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

that would be bad

this is a must win game…baltimore won…they arent that good but we need to get back on track with a tough schedule

by Steeltown21 on Nov 3, 2008 9:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I hate Arians;

he cant figure it out! Im just saying….

by Steeler Ric on Nov 3, 2008 9:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

totally agree -- Arians must go

He’s not what we need, to put it lightly.

by TURFgeek on Nov 3, 2008 9:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

our O needs to do this

Put Davis back their at FB and run Parker 3 times in a row. We have yet to use the Power I

by shleeve on Nov 3, 2008 9:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

no kidding

Of course, that requires a passing game in the first place.

by TURFgeek on Nov 3, 2008 9:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Stupid question...

but what do you think of the all burgundy?

Yes, I am a nerd.

by TexSkins on Nov 3, 2008 9:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

wow

our 2nd down play calling is just so so bad

by Blitzburgh on Nov 3, 2008 9:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Our defense better score

Because our offense certainly won’t at this rate.

by TURFgeek on Nov 3, 2008 9:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

our offense is acting

like it’s still preseason

by Alba on Nov 3, 2008 9:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hines

get him the ball we need some yards for field position

by Steeltown21 on Nov 3, 2008 9:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

It’s just depressing to watch our O…we pick up 12 on the first play and go away from the fullback, power I and start up with the one back…Arians is a moron

by Steeler Ric on Nov 3, 2008 9:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

can it be banish arians from america instead?

by archon095 on Nov 3, 2008 9:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

no

maybe another team will hire him to benefit from his “talent”

by Alba on Nov 3, 2008 9:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously, it is normally fashionable to hassle the offensive coordinator

But Arians just stinks. We have a hard-on for single back formations where 3 of our WRs are all standing within 1 yard of each other. Our protection schemes stink. Just not a lot of good things to say about him

by houksyndrome on Nov 3, 2008 9:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

starting to see some things work for the O

—how long do you think we have to wait to see some no huddle?

by BoiseSteeler on Nov 3, 2008 9:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i know

i said that earlier! they should have a guy in their booth readin this

by Steeltown21 on Nov 3, 2008 9:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Campbell sandwhich!

"It's time to plant some seeds. What that means is, hit them in the mouth. Ya know, plant some seeds. Show 'em what time it is." --Levon Kirkland

by steelerinchicago on Nov 3, 2008 9:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Potsie and Silverback

by Steeler Ric on Nov 3, 2008 9:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Very good, now catch some slants

"It's time to plant some seeds. What that means is, hit them in the mouth. Ya know, plant some seeds. Show 'em what time it is." --Levon Kirkland

by steelerinchicago on Nov 3, 2008 9:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

nice

we gotta have holmes return punts. we need every last bit of big play potential on special teams

by Blitzburgh on Nov 3, 2008 9:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

run it more

FWP but Moore too

by Alba on Nov 3, 2008 9:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

They played it well

"It's time to plant some seeds. What that means is, hit them in the mouth. Ya know, plant some seeds. Show 'em what time it is." --Levon Kirkland

by steelerinchicago on Nov 3, 2008 9:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

With the way their D is playing,

we should just play smashmouth’

by Steeler Ric on Nov 3, 2008 9:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

hahaha

over compensation

by Blitzburgh on Nov 3, 2008 9:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

ugh

well at least we get to see our D a lot. theyre actually fun to watch

by Blitzburgh on Nov 3, 2008 9:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

We can run

put a FB in the back field and lets go jerome bettis on their ass

by archon095 on Nov 3, 2008 9:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

what is a FB? Is that one of those "full backs"? I thought they were illegal

I thought the new rules were: You must have at least 3 TEs in the game at all times, and all of your eligible receivers must be within 1 yard of each other when the ball is snapped.

by houksyndrome on Nov 3, 2008 9:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm done

I can’t watch this anymore. If they go no huddle, they will win, but they don’t. That’s the definition of insanity

by FireAriansNow on Nov 3, 2008 9:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The plays we're running

wouldnt work in a highschool game!

by Steeler Ric on Nov 3, 2008 9:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

hey guys. just got on the thread. wtf is wrong with our offense?

...die trying

by agentorange on Nov 3, 2008 9:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Arians Has No Game Plan

He has one drive in the last 5 quarters. We have to wait for a 80 yard bomb to Nate for a score

When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen

by 5020 on Nov 3, 2008 9:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, DA is done

"It's time to plant some seeds. What that means is, hit them in the mouth. Ya know, plant some seeds. Show 'em what time it is." --Levon Kirkland

by steelerinchicago on Nov 3, 2008 9:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

move 'em on back

D didn’t score but at least gets us field position

by Alba on Nov 3, 2008 9:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

farrrior looks pissed off. the defense looks so damn good.

...die trying

by agentorange on Nov 3, 2008 9:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

goddamnit

bring it all the way back. thought we were going to have some good position.

holmes needs to go forward, stop dancing

by Blitzburgh on Nov 3, 2008 9:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i heart harrison

hes my fantasy d player

by Steeltown21 on Nov 3, 2008 9:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Im watching this game on a live TV stream and i can hear a RAGING FIGHT between whoever’s house this is streaming from.

“I DONT OWE YOU ANY FUCKING MONEY” is the last i heard. hahah. at least i get that as entertainment, god knows our offense isnt doing it for me.

by Blitzburgh on Nov 3, 2008 9:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

what happened?

I thought you were going to DC for this game blitz?

by acrollet on Nov 3, 2008 9:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

emergency with school :(

super pissed. couldnt go though

by Blitzburgh on Nov 3, 2008 9:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

sucks

sorry to hear it :(

by acrollet on Nov 3, 2008 9:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

take away his 22 yard run and portis has 7 yards on 6 carries.

...die trying

by agentorange on Nov 3, 2008 9:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

FLAG!

cheating skins

by Steeltown21 on Nov 3, 2008 9:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

interference

...die trying

by agentorange on Nov 3, 2008 9:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

that was interference

"It's time to plant some seeds. What that means is, hit them in the mouth. Ya know, plant some seeds. Show 'em what time it is." --Levon Kirkland

by steelerinchicago on Nov 3, 2008 9:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

theres the deep ball bruce wanted

fake quick pass fake draw deep to hines??

by Steeltown21 on Nov 3, 2008 9:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

hooooray!

about all we can hope for at the moment

by Blitzburgh on Nov 3, 2008 9:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Why is Ben

always throwing the ball so late? He should have thrown that 2 seconds before he did

by FireAriansNow on Nov 3, 2008 9:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

he overthrew nate last week like he's supposed to.

but yes he does throw it under more often than not.

by SoCalSteelerFan on Nov 3, 2008 9:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

santonio can’t catch crap tonight

...die trying

by agentorange on Nov 3, 2008 9:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

How about a run?

"It's time to plant some seeds. What that means is, hit them in the mouth. Ya know, plant some seeds. Show 'em what time it is." --Levon Kirkland

by steelerinchicago on Nov 3, 2008 9:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

He's actually had some time the last couple throws

"It's time to plant some seeds. What that means is, hit them in the mouth. Ya know, plant some seeds. Show 'em what time it is." --Levon Kirkland

by steelerinchicago on Nov 3, 2008 9:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Kornheiser

makes me want Dennis Miller back. Didn’t think that was possible.

by FireAriansNow on Nov 3, 2008 9:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

he's auditioning for the Style network

or he’s got one bad shoe fetish

by TURFgeek on Nov 3, 2008 9:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs