Steelers defensive passing YPA under Tomlin
(For this post, note that statistics are from pro-football-reference.com. I will be talking about adjusted passing YPA. The adjusted just means that it takes sacks into account. For example, let's say that Peyton Manning goes 14-24 for 156 this week and gets sacked once for 6 yards. Then his YPA would be 150/25 = 6. 150 is net yards passing (156-6) and 25 attempts includes the time when he dropped back to pass but was sacked.)
When Mike Tomlin was hired as the the new Steelers head coach, like many fans I looked to see what his background was. While he was a db coach with TB, the secondary played pretty well and they definitely shined in the 02 Super Bowl. But you never know what the exact impact of an assistant coach is, so it's hard to know how much of that success was due to Tomlin. And as well as the TB pass defense played in the Super Bowl, it's still just one game and some thought that they had an advantage since Gruden was well aware of Oakland's and Gannon's tendencies.
Once Tomlin moved on to Minnesota, it wasn't Minny's pass defense that improved, but rather their run defense. In 2005 (the year before Tomlin), Minny allowed 5.9 passing YPA and 4.0 rushing YPA. In 2006 (with Tomlin as defensive coordinator), Minny's allowed 6.1 passing YPA but only a miniscule 2.8 rushing YPA. But that's only one year, so who knows what would have happened if Tomlin had stayed.
Last year, Tomlin's first year as head coach with the Steelers, I noticed that the Steelers allowed very few yards per passing attempt. In fact, they allowed only 4.9 YPA through the air while allowing 4.0 on the ground. (Unfortunately, I don't have the rushing YPA before Aaron Smith got hurt.)
To put that 4.9 into perspective, consider that it matched the best defensive passing YPA the Steelers ever managed under Cowher, whose teams posted a 4.9 in 1994 and (somewhat surprisingly to me) in 1996.
This year, however, the Steelers have taken it to another level. They are allowing a paltry 4.2 passing YPA. That is easily the best mark since the glory days of the 70s. Meanwhile, the team is allowing only 2.9 on the ground. (That 2.9 would actually be better than any Steeler defense under Cowher or Noll.) Those numbers are incredible halfway through this season. It's even more impressive when you consider that the team has had to overcome multiple injuries on the defensive side of the ball, although none have been season ending (knock on wood) thus far and the 3 most important players on defense (Harrison, Woodley and Polamalu) have remained relatively healthy. It's also worth noting that the offense hasn't exactly helped the defense that much either, often putting the Steelers defense in many short field situations.
If the Steelers defense can maintain this pace, we may be seeing the best Steeler defense since the 1970s.*
As an aside, to appreciate how good those 70s Steeler defenses consistently were, consider that from 1972 through 1979 (8 years), the Steelers allowed a defensive YPA of 4.9 or less 7 times. In 1974, they posted a measly 3.7.
* I obviously put a great deal of stock into defensive YPA, especially passing YPA. But there are other stats that I value as well, mostly turnovers and points allowed. I readily admit that I can't really say that this Steeler defense would be the best since the 70s withouth looking at these categories. For example, this defense is on pace to allow 232 points, which compares favorably to the 234 that the 94 defense allowed. However, this year's team is only on pace to force 24 turnovers, while the 94 edition forced 31.
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The flip side is....
Defense was the area where Tomlin DID NOT BRING IN HIS OWN PERSONAL. I think there were at least 3 new faces among the offensive coaching staff after he took over (and one holdover given more responsibility). It seems more relevant to judge him on the changes he made.
Unless you think a 35 year old former William & Mary WR of limited talent with a hodge podge of mainly lower level coaching postions knows more about PASS DEFENSE than one of the ALL TIME GREAT DEFENSIVE BACKS IN NFL HISTORY who has been coaching at the highest level since before Tomlin was born.
by robert ethan on Nov 5, 2008 3:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
sigh...
RE, do you ever tire of hating?
No one here is denying that Dick Lebeau is a mastermind, and a golden idol should be constructed in his honor. But what was described above was very clinical and stat based. We could pull the last few years of Steelers defenses under Lebeau and see that this years pass defense has improved mightily. I’ve noticed a definite shift in coverages from the cowher days. We’re clearly keeping the ball in front our defenders and letting them tackle soundly more than cowher who’d press cover more. That’s probably Tomlin’s influence. Again we’ll never know.
Plus you judge a man on what he does and how well he does it. Last year the steelers offense while occasionally shady, put up fantastic numbers and got them to the playoffs. You don’t fire people for that. This year we’re seeing a different story and we may see a different result when the off-season comes about. Till then I don’t think we can judge harshly on Tomlin’s personel decisions
by Chicago Steeler on Nov 5, 2008 3:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not an either or
My post didn’t mean to imply that Tomlin solely deserves credit for the defense. Of course, Lebeau deserves credit. No doubt about it.
However, I would say that Lebeau has been with the Steelers and other teams long before Tomlin came aboard and while Lebeau’s defenses have usually been very good, the Steelers never have posted a defensive passing YPA this low under Lebeau in the past, not even with Rod Woodson and Carnell Lake in their prime roaming the secondary.
So I would say that Tomlin has probably brought something to the table. Heck, maybe it’s the combination of Tomlin and Lebeau that is the key.
As for the offense, my post in not meant to judge Tomlin’s entire body of work. (That’s another discussion IMO.) It’s meant only to look at the defense from a certain statistical viewpoint.
by steeler1275 on Nov 5, 2008 3:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Your entire article never mentioned Lebeau once..
My impression is that head coaches don’t really involve themselves in the nuts and bolts of gameplanning that much. To suggest that any change in the Steeler defense, pro or con, is due to the head coach is a stretch, and that goes for any head coach, not just Tomlin.
The main responsibility of the head coach is to hire the best personel possible to formulate and coach the game plans to the athletes they are provided with. On that front Tomlin’s initial efforts seem less than impressive.
by robert ethan on Nov 5, 2008 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So you think that Zorn had nothing to do with the offensive gameplan of the redskins and their offensive has been the brainchild of their OC Sherman Smith? Really?
by steelguy99 on Nov 5, 2008 4:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As much as I respect and love Dick Lebeau as our defensive cordinator, what was his head coaching record?
Mike Tomlin has done nothing except win since he has been here.
by frankrmineo on Nov 5, 2008 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think what sg's trying to say is:
Year/HC/DC/ypa:
2008/Tomlin/Lebeau/4.21
2007/Tomlin/Lebeau/4.93
2006/Cowher/Lebeau/5.97
2005/Cowher/Lebeau/5.32
2004/Cowher/Lebeau/5.40
2003/Cowher/Lewis/5.86
2002/Cowher/Lewis/5.55
I don’t know who does what, but with everything else staying the same, the defense’s YPA decreased dramatically when Tomlin took over. Maybe all Tomlin did was tell Lebeau he wanted a more balanced defense, but that was something Cowher never figured out. Tomlin has helped this defense; there’s no denying it.
Furthermore, Tomlin came to a team with a good defense and a capable offense. He kept personnel on both sides – and why not? The only personnel Tomlin brought in was on ST, which has been improved this year. He held onto LeBeau instead of bringing in “his guys” or “his system”. He promoted Arians, who provided continuity and experience. I have no problem with that. The only truly poor decision he made IMO was keeping Arians for 2008 due to the statistically decent year the offense had – and many people thought it was a good decision at the time. We’ll judge the offense next year when he hires his first coordinator.
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by BadMaafala on Nov 5, 2008 4:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
right on
he can’t take any of the credit for the D, but all the blame for the O? don’t think so myself. It takes awhile for a coach to completely put his imprint on a team, unless he has way more credibility than Tomlin had (like Parcells, say). Anyway, the D is improved (because of many factors) however, Tomlin needs to be given some of that credit, I think.
by tkired on Nov 5, 2008 9:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What about Chuck Noll
Noll was generally regarded as a great teacher. Several of his former players from the 70s have said as much.
And there are plenty of other examples.
You don’t think Bill Walsh worked with and put his stamp on the 49ers offense?
Coach Gibbs was notorious for putting in incredible hours in his first go around with the Redskins, watching reels of film and often sleeping at the office. For what?
I guess Bill Belichick really doesn’t offer any input on the defensive gameplans?
I could go on, but it would be redundant. A head coach absolutely can have his fingerprints on at least one side of the ball.
Now I don’t know how much Tomlin gets involved with the defensive gameplan from week to week, but the defensive schemes have changed since he became coach, even though most of the defensive coaches remain the same.
by steeler1275 on Nov 5, 2008 4:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You guys are still asking us to accept that Tomlin..
…knows more about how to play pass defense than Lebeau. Sorry, but if the Steelers never gave up another pass completion all season, I still wouldn’t accept that.
by robert ethan on Nov 5, 2008 5:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t care if you think Tomlin knows MORE about how to play pass defens than Lebeau, he seems to know something that Lebeau didn’t know before the two paired up.
by frankrmineo on Nov 5, 2008 5:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes I am asking that
Lebeau is smart and good at what he does. Does know every single thing about passing defense that has ever come to pass, of course not. No one does. If Bill the Cheater became our coach he would probably have some pointers for Lebeau that Lebeau either didn’t think of, OR previously disagreed with. But since Tomlin’s the head coach he gets to say, “Do this” and whether Lebeau agreed or not, he does it and it’s changed the stats listed.
by Chicago Steeler on Nov 5, 2008 5:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
For me
I am not asking that. I am saying, like others, that he has done Something to help the defense here. This would be somewhere in the mix with LeBeau’s continuing development of this scheme, new LB’s, healthy Polamalu, all kinds of things. But the head coach has a hand in all of it, and must take some of the credit and blame for all aspects of the team.
by tkired on Nov 5, 2008 9:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
DB Coach
When Tomlin was invited into the NFL by Coach Dungy he (Tomlin) was made the DB coach. Personally I was excited when the Rooney’s hired Tomlin for that very fact. Not sure but it sure looks like the CB’s are playing better this year. Especially Ike…not a lot of picks but he doing a lot better at defending. I’ve caught clips of Tomlin talking to Ike about playing CB.
So Tomlin knows something about pass D. He is not soley responsible, but you can figure that if the DBs are covering better then our front 7 has an increased chance of getting to the QB.
Take it for what its worth. Ironically in 2006 whe Tomlin was the DC for the Vikings, the Vikings were 2nd in rushing and 23rd against the pass. Who knows what the real key is, but I am sure that Tomlins influence along with Lebeau have created something beautiful for us to watch.
by Silverback92 on Nov 5, 2008 8:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Robert Ethan
you never cease to amaze me! You just have to be a certified nut! You wouldnt be happy if GOD himself was our coach , Jesus Christ played quarterback for us and some of the Angels filled out our roster would you? I mean dude, do you like anything about the Steelers? Im mean really?
by Steeler Ric on Nov 5, 2008 8:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
nice post...
although i would argue one thing: the article mentioned that the three most important players on d are “woodley, harrison, polamalu.” i would contest that the three most important players on defense are actually aaron smith, casey hampton, and polamalu. i say this because our defense is 100% built around stopping the run, and there’s arguably no tandem in the league better at plugging gaps than aa. smith and snack. everything, our blitzing, our pass coverage, is based on our 3 down linemen controlling the line of scrimmage. without smith/hampton, we can’t do that (although, partially defeating my own point, chris hoke filled in very nicely for snack this year). remember the end of last season when aa. smith went down with i believe a pectoral injury? once he was gone, we couldn’t stop the run, and therefore our defense as a whole suffered mightily.
by NoCal-SteelCity on Nov 6, 2008 11:42 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Teams tend to run to one side or the other and it seems like the skins like to run to their right. Great news for us when any team prefers running to A. Smiths side. It’s pretty fun when Big Snack knows where the run is going and lines up to gun down to A. Smiths side too.
by steelguy99 on Nov 6, 2008 11:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s becoming harder to tell who the most important players on defense are because they’re all playing so well, as are the backups. Keisel and Hampton out? Hoke, Eason, and Kirschke step up. Bmac out? Bill and Deshea. Silverback or Woodley out (knock on wood)? Timmons can play outside in a pinch, as could Farrior. I think Smith or Troy are probably the 2 most indespensible players (Hampton-Hoke<Smith-Eason/Kirshke), but the defense wouldn’t simply collapse if they weren’t there.
It’s good to see them play as a team.
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by BadMaafala on Nov 6, 2008 12:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They keep robbing Woodley/Harrison of sacks! The defense spreads around its quarterback terror and run stopping like a bad disease.
Joey porter has 11.5 out of 18 sacks for the dolphins. That is, Porter has 64% of the fins sacks. Woodley and Harrison combined only have 63%, and that is a very good thing. What has shown through this year is that you can stop 1 man, you can stop 2 men, but you can’t stop the team.
As an aside, the steelers now lead the league with 32 sacks.
by steelguy99 on Nov 6, 2008 12:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Three most important players
I kind of used that as a throwaway line. You’re right in that it could be argued that several players could be considered amongst the most important. I only mentioned those three players specifically because while I mentioned that the defense has overcome several injuries thus far, I wanted to add perspective by stating that it could be worse if one of Harrison, Woodley or Pola missed significant time. But as you said, the defense also dropped off noticeably when Aaron Smith got hurt last year. Anyways, I hope that none of those 4 get hurt and that nobody on the team gets hurt actually.
In the larger scheme I was really just trying to make the point that this has not been one of those years where everything has gone magically right to enable the defense to perform at peak efficiency. Some players have missed time, the offense and punter haven’t really helped the Steelers win the starting field position battle, and the offense isn’t exactly controlling the clock. Yet the defense is still playing really well.
by steeler1275 on Nov 6, 2008 3:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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