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The Steelers Mike Tomlin: The Emergence of a Rising Star

Living in Youngstown, Ohio, both Heinz Field and Cleveland Browns Stadium are exactly an hour and a half away in opposite directions.  The taverns in Youngstown are filled with both Hatfields and McCoys, half Steelers' fans and half Browns' fans.  Recently a digruntled Browns' fan came up to me proclaiming that the Browns' problem was that they haven't hired a head coach with head coaching experience since 1971 (that being Nick Skorich).  He was shocked when I responded that the Steelers haven't hired a head coach with previous head coaching experience since 1958 (that being Buddy Parker).  The Rooneys aren't interested in hiring Norv Turner re-treads.  They want up-and-coming, sharp as a whip, no-nonsense leaders who know the game, and just as importantly, know the people who play it.

Enter Mike Tomlin.  Hired in January, 2007, he began his tenure with the Steelers behind the eight ball.  After Bill Cowher announced his resignation, Steeler Nation was divided between current assistants Ken Whisenhunt and Russ Grimm as to their next leader.  Both coaches were nationally considered head coaching material.  Surely one of them would get the job.  Whisenhunt scurried off to Arizona, perhaps seeing the writing on the wall.  In any case, Dan Rooney and Art Rooney II proudly announced Mike Tomlin as the new Steelers' coach.  Tomlin had been defensive coordinator for the Minnesota Vikings. 

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Tomlin's first act was to meet a fan-base who considered him a complete unknown and was generally disappointed that one of the two inside guys weren't at the podium.  Tomlin's handling of this was flawless.  He didn't apologize for getting the job.  He was delicate and yet firm, respectful of the past and yet excited about the future.

His second hurdle also came before the season, during training camp.  All Pro guard and possible future Hall of Famer Alan Faneca was out of sorts for two reasons.  One, his position coach was Russ Grimm and Faneca really wanted Grimm to get the job.  Secondly, Faneca wanted a long-term contract extension and the Steelers decided his age did not warrant such.  Tomlin was caught in the middle.  He needed to be respectful to Faneca.  He needed him badly for the 2007 season.  He also needed to make sure Faneca's pouting did not bring the team down.  Again a fine line and again, he handled the situation perfectly.

Tomlin obviously had his team ready for the season.  The Steelers crushed the Browns, in Cleveland, to win the 2007 season opener.  The Steelers also won the next two games over Buffalo and San Francisco rather handily.  Pittsburgh made the playoffs in Tomlin's inaugural season.  The Steelers lost their first playoff game at home, however, never a good thing, to Jacksonville.  Prior to the playoff game, the Steelers lost the NFL's leading rusher in Willie Parker and their most underrated defensive lineman in Aaron Smith, both to injuries.

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Still, Tomlin would not allow injuries to be an excuse.  Any reasonable mind would tell you that the league's leading running back (not to mention Aaron Smith), would surely be the difference in a 31-29 thriller.  Tomlin would have none of that.  Most coaches will give obligatory lip service in saying that injuries are no excuse.  When Mike Tomlin said those words, you could feel his genuine conviction.  As a fan you love a coach like that.

So Tomlin's first season ended at 10-6 plus a home playoff loss.  He showed during his first offseason that we wasn't going to be stubborn.  Desperately needing a center to replace Jeff Hartings after 2006, the Steelers signed free agent Sean Mahan, who got manhandled by defensive tackles in 2007.  So the Steelers signed another free agent center the very next year, Justin Hartwig.  Tomlin and the team were willing to cut their losses and correct their mistake rather than stubbornly stick with Mahan.

Tomlin's next lesson in human relations took place on the first day of training camp when All Pro nose tackle Casey Hamptom came into camp badly out of shape.  Tomlin made it very clear that this was unacceptable, even for a standout veteran.  Hamptom was placed on the Physically Unable to Play List.  More importantly, notice was served.  It is unlikely the same problem will present itself next summer, by Hampton or anyone.

With last season's fizzle clear in his mind, Tomlin has fine-tuned his regimen, another example of his willingness to look in the mirror and adapt.  Veterans like Hines Ward and Deshea Townsend, among others, often do not practice on Wednesdays to preserve their aging football bodies.  They are not listed with an ankle or knee, they are honestly depicted as "Hines missed practice because he's Hines."  The Steelers are playing fresher this year in December.  They are playing a full 60 minutes, unlike some of their opponents.  Their current five-game winning streak has a completely different look than last year's December.

The Steelers are certainly not without their struggles.  The offense, the line and the running game are still a great work in progress, to use Tomlin's words.  Last week star running back Wille Parker complained to the media about that running game.  Coach Tomlin would have none of that.  With a knack for classic soundbites, he reminded everyone that Pittsburgh is the proud owner of "five Lombardis, not five rushing titles."  His words that "Willie's comments can be construed as selfish, which he is not," were perfect.  Moreover, Tomlin named Parker an honorary co-captain before the Ravens game in a public display of forgiving and forgetting.  His human relations instincts are exemplary.

There were several monkeys on Tomlin's back from a season ago.  Getting smashed by the Belichick Patriots, continuing the road losing streak in Baltimore and then losing to Jacksonville twice are three such monkeys, not to mention the abysmal coverage on kickoffs and punts.  What a difference year-two makes.  He returned to Foxboro and returned the smashing, broke the Jaguars' hearts in front of their fans and the jinx against the Ravens?  Nevermore.  In addition, the coverage units thus far have been a strength of the team instead of a major weakness.  That is massive reversal from a year ago.

This season is far from over.  We all know the achilles heel that could ruin a great season.  We know we have work to do in the offseason and more changes are in store.  But for a young second-year coach to have 21 wins under his belt with more opportunities available, raise your hand if you like Mike Tomlin.  Being a great wordsmith is one thing.  Meaning those words and then putting them to action is yet another.  Mike Tomlin has a great future in front of him.  Hopefully, some of that greatness will be witnessed in the next six weeks.

 

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My hometown!!

Actually I’m from Warren, but whatever. I miss Hot Dog Shoppe sooooo much.

Guns don't kill people. Lamar Woodley kills people.

by BostonWahoo on Dec 17, 2008 2:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The Hot Dog Shoppe is still a landmark

Thoughtful discussion with a sense of history

by maryrose on Dec 17, 2008 2:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The last time I was home visiting family, in Columbus actually, one of the Great Aunts came down with like 6 flats of chili/cheese/onion goodness, and another couple family fries with everything.

Heaven is a grilled dog and HDS “chili” sauce.

Guns don't kill people. Lamar Woodley kills people.

by BostonWahoo on Dec 17, 2008 2:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You're tempting me

to grab a few tonight.

Thoughtful discussion with a sense of history

by maryrose on Dec 17, 2008 2:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m jealous. Wanna mail me a qt. of sauce? :)

Guns don't kill people. Lamar Woodley kills people.

by BostonWahoo on Dec 17, 2008 2:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Great post, by the way. I completely agree on each point.

Guns don't kill people. Lamar Woodley kills people.

by BostonWahoo on Dec 17, 2008 2:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

fantastic post!

by Fahey on Dec 17, 2008 2:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Tomlin doesn’t get the credit he deserves in the national media,…part of that is because he coaches the Steelers,…and the country expects nothing less than excellence from the Steelers.

These days, being a head coach is more about managing people, not X’s and O’s. Tomlin is excellent at managing people, all his instincts seem to be correct. He’ll prove me right once he fires BA in the offseason.

by ismail on Dec 17, 2008 2:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Except for one thing

The only personnel move I’ve never understood was Willie “Whiff” colon over Maxamillion Starks…

by Mechem on Dec 17, 2008 3:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree,…Starks must’ve slept with somebody’s wife, cause from what i’ve seen he’s far better than colon.

by ismail on Dec 17, 2008 4:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

my hand is raised!

i was as confused as anyone when i first heard that mike tomlin was the new head coach of the pittsburgh steelers. “who?”

but that soon changed. i love his charisma. i love his integrity. i love his wordplay. i love his command. i love his discipline. i love his energy. i love his passion. i love his leadership.

at this point, almost two full seasons into his tenure, i can say this: i trust mike tomlin. i am proud that he is the head coach of the team i love so much.

...die trying
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by agentorange on Dec 17, 2008 2:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

my hand is raised high too

Yesterday when the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ran that article on the T-shirt with a picture of Mike Tomlin and the phrase “Yes We Can!”, I thought, sure, the guy’s human, but he’s a guy I can believe in. This season I’ve epecially admired his enthusiasm, his rapport with the players, and his capacity to learn. He’s a keeper.

by Alba on Dec 17, 2008 4:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Y-town

Now in LA, I grew up in Canfield and miss that Hot Dog Shoppe as well. Pinks out here has nothing on that old haunt of mine.

Great post on Tomlin, but you should also add his decisiveness in letting go of Porter. This helped ensure control of the locker room and hasn’t hurt their defense at all…

by ec on Dec 17, 2008 2:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Never in my life have I had to wait so long for a mediocre hot dog as when I negotiated a 1 am line outside of Pinks. Hot Dog Shoppe any day of the week.

Guns don't kill people. Lamar Woodley kills people.

by BostonWahoo on Dec 17, 2008 2:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I just moved back to Youngstown from LA. Agreed, Pink’s is not all it’s cracked up to be. However, I’ve never tried Hot Dog Shoppe. Thanks for the tip.

by Hines Ward on Dec 17, 2008 4:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ive never braved the lines at Pinks

dont think i ever will either unless i was with some hot date that demanded we do so.

by Blitzburgh on Dec 17, 2008 4:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Tomlin

I think should win the coach of the year, hardest slate of games since like the 70 something giants, and has a chance to go 13-3 unreal. I really thought that black and gold would be lucky to win 10. Another thing is half time adjustments. The steelers are like plus 35 points in the 3rd. There was never any cowher team that could say that. I have to say i feel more confident that tomlin won’t get “out coached” by other coaches as much as cowher seemed to. I will be truely disapointed that tomlin doesn’t get at least 2 if not more rings when he is done coaching.

"When the boogie man goes to sleep he checks his closet for Chuck Norris"

by elirock83 on Dec 17, 2008 2:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

When Tomlin was hired

I was stoked. I did some research on him, and thought that he was a better fit for the Steelers (and the Steel City) than Whis or Grimm. The reason? Tomlin is DEFENSIVE MINDED. Whis and Grimm are offensive guys. Pittsburgh is, was, and always will be a defensive-minded football team.

Also, I was really happy to see the Rooney’s employ a black head coach after founding the rule that requires fairness in interviewing. I don’t for one second think that they hired Tomlin because of that rule, but it’s nice to see the Rooney’s allow their actions to back up their principals.

by NoCal-SteelCity on Dec 17, 2008 3:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Great post, great coach

Firstly, I love the attitude towards injury. He does NOT give anyone a free pass when the team gets injured in any way.

I also love his quotes and phrases. To me not only are some of them humorous but witty and wise all at the same time.

He has a very good personal attentiveness and I think his handling of the players is spot on.

by Mechem on Dec 17, 2008 3:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

it's funny

The main things I actually see from Tomlin are eloquent and vague speech and excited sideline antics in which he looks more like a spectator than a dictator. If things weren’t going well, I think he’d take a lot flak for not looking like he’s busy and worried, especially in another city. Similar image to Romeo Crennel or Art Shell.

However, he has left subtle imprints that suggest that HE is the reason the defense is so much better and more importantly so much more STEADY. This isn’t Bill Cowher’s defense anymore. As MR mentioned, he’s dealt exceptionally well with his players, from Faneca to Ben to Hampton to Parker, and he has a lot of them playing their best football. We have the best defense in the league because we have an able DC and players who trust each other and do their jobs as well as anyone in the league. LeBeau calls the play, but Tomlin sets the tone, which has worked to perfection.

The main tarnish on his time here has been keeping Arians around this year, and it will be hard to fully support Tomlin while the offense is such a mess and coaching is so clearly a large part of it. If he can bring in a good OC and build a similar relationship with him as he has with LeBeau, we could be the well-rounded and resilient team I think we’re capable of being.

I think he’s the perfect coach to take a good team and turn them into a great team. Part of it’s the schedule, but we have not looked unfocused one time this year, not even against Philly (although we did look unprepared on offense). For this reason, I think we can survive as a front-runner, unlike under Cowher. Everyone has been talking about our defense for months, but they’ve maintained focus (with one minor blip against Indy) and performed like they were the best every week. We don’t need to be slighted, we just do our jobs.

Fun note about our pass defense: we’re ahead of the next team (BAL) by 227 yards, or roughly 10. We’re 10 better than the next best pass defense. That’s ridiculous. Put another way, we’re as much better than Baltimore against the pass as they are better than the Giants, ranked 10th. Like I said, this is not Cowher’s defense.

charity standing orders

by BadMaafala on Dec 17, 2008 3:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

One thing about "vague speech"

is that it is an art form among coaches. They need to be extremely measured in how they answer in public. People usually want to talk about problems and deficiencies. Coaches need to be very careful with negatives and then standing in a lockerroom with those who he just talked about. I listen to every press conference and when he is led into a negative moment, I applaud the vague speech. I don’t need full disclosure from the man. He tries to provide information without crossing any lines. It’s one of his better traits.

Regarding the offense, it will be very interesting to see what happens with Arians, Zierlein, free agent lineman and draft choices. All eyes will be on those four areas in Fenruary, March and April.

Thoughtful discussion with a sense of history

by maryrose on Dec 17, 2008 4:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Completely Agree

My question is this: What are the Rooneys thinking? They have to be, by far, the most knowledgeable owners in the NFL (Since Al Davis moved into his sanility). At the end of the year, do they sit Tomlin down and give him the grade. And when they do, do you ever think they would hint or push for a better O.C.? I mean, the Rooneys exemplify running as much as defense. Is there a chance that Arians was the Rooney’s choice in the first place and Tomlin just put positive spin on it? If so, do they keep backing him, or let Tomlin make a BIG decision? These are the questions that occupy my time while I should be working.

by WyoFan on Dec 17, 2008 5:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Y-Town and Zorn

I graduated from YSU many years ago. Lots of things to learn in Youngstown most of them outside of school. My favorite bar/restaurant is the Golden Dawn. Try it for good Italian food and and great schooners of beer.

Jim Zorn is being pilloried in Washington because he doesn’t do coach speak. It is a lesson to all coaches that “vague speech” beats intelligent insight.

Maybe Snyder will fire Zorn and we can get him to replace Ariens.

by Bob from Virginia on Dec 18, 2008 7:36 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

"Vague Speech"

Is indeed a talent. You want to answer questions respectfully (anti-Belichick) and with some degree of depth, at the same time NEVER giving away anything that can help another team and also NEVER being specific about a negative that will reverberate. Sometimes fans want openness and honesty, certainly understandable, but I don’t want it if there is a cost. All Tomlin has to say is something like “Yes, the offensive line has been out-of-sync this season…” and you will see that spread like wildfire. The headlines, articles, talk shows and blog sites will stir that pot and create further clarification down a negative path that does no good. Then Tomlin has to explain things in a lockerroom where the other players come to the aid of the lineman and line coach, etc. etc., it’s all bad…

I grade Tomlin on everything he says, and when he is respectful with a little bit of information but not too much, he grades out at A+…I actually love the “vague speech.”

Regarding the Golden Dawn, they still do those unique beer schooners with great sandwiches…I stop now and then just to stroll down memory lane…

Thoughtful discussion with a sense of history

by maryrose on Dec 18, 2008 8:50 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

he had me at Hello

Man, when he stepped up to that podium, and said Hello to the media, you could just sense it. He oozed confidence. I was instantly impressed. Taking a job like Pitt is a big deal. Other teams’ coaches come and go rashes after prom night, but not here. It had to be a bit intimidating, but it sure didn’t seem so.

Great write up (as usual). He is our coach of the future and ya just can’t help but be excited.

by steelerark on Dec 17, 2008 3:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

lawl at the rashes

I agree. Its almost scary when you think of how many coaches we’ve had over so long. It shows you you will be here to stay even with a couple down seasons. It can be tougher to think about.

As you point out, Coaches come and go on most teams like kids at Neverland Ranch

by Mechem on Dec 17, 2008 4:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well written ...

worthy of being read.

by tenthmtnman on Dec 17, 2008 3:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yup

Good post.

Didnt know that he had named Parker as honorary captain. Very interesting.

by Blitzburgh on Dec 17, 2008 3:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Know it sounds like a broken record

but great writing again ’Rose. But great topic too. Tomlin has been one of the great untold stories in the NFL over the past couple of years, and will probably be destined to be so outside of Pittsburgh until he wins a championship. It seems that Steeler coaches are destined to be underestimated by both temperment (not into self promotion) and design.

Bad makes some important points about the changes in the defense. They aren’t as vulnerable to the short passing game as before. The secondary is much improved and more reliable with pretty much the same personnel. They and the rest of the team are more iron willed than in the past. The types of games that we are winning at the moment are the types of games that we used to lose. Don’t know where I fall yet as far as BA is concerned. As my grandmother used to say, you can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear. To a certain extent we have been running a high caliber offense using chicken wire and bubble gum, but they are demonstrating the same level of tough mindedness as the defense. But on the other hand there is a certain underlying ruthlessness that is not present yet. If you remember, BA got promoted to OC before Tomlin got hired if memory serves. So he might not have as much lattitude as we might imagine .

I take him at his word that the team is still improving (terrifying to contemplate if you’re thinking defense) and may elevate another level or two during the playoffs. Just a matter of time until he gets the recognition he deserves.

by RickVa on Dec 17, 2008 4:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Is that true about BA?

I didn’t realize that was the case regarding BA. I know he predates Tomlin, but I didn’t realize that his promotion came before Tomlin got the job. Are the Rooney’s generally responsible for hiring coordinators or does that fall with the HC?

by SteelerBuddha on Dec 17, 2008 5:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Actually Arians was Tomlins first big move.

http://www.sportsline.com/print/nfl/story/9952067

And I don’t think the Rooney’s are generally responsible for hiring coordinators, that has traditionaly left to the Head Coach, and this article confirms that even a Rookie Head Coach has some say over his cordinators.

I'll drink your Milkshake, I'll drink it up!

by drinkyourmilkshake on Dec 17, 2008 5:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Coaches

I never got a great vibe from Cowher. He had passion. He had the chin. But he also had a tendency to explode. This is fine when dealing with refs, but I gotta figure that came out in the locker room, too. Don’t get me wrong… he was a good coach and I look forward to him returning to the NFL. I just wouldn’t consider him a HoF coach.

On the one hand, Tomlin is too young to judge. A part of the team’s success has to go to LeBeau and maybe a little to Ariens and the rest of the staff. Let’s not forget, Tomlin also took over a team that was only one season off from a SB win. Yeah, that was a bad year, but the team still had most of the good skill positions covered. In short, Tomlin stepped in at the right time.

But I also think Maryrose is right about Tomlin’s management. If he were making waves, we’d hear about it. Nothing truly negative is coming out of the locker room. The news has been quite the opposite, really. A commentator during a recent game said something to the effect of “all you need to do is sit down with him for a minute to understand why the Rooney’s hired him.” He can be just as “vague” as Belichick (the master of frustrating reporters), but he accomplishes the task without being dull. That gives the fans something to smile about. As long as he continues to make good decisions about personnel, I think he has a better chance at the HoF than Cowher.

On a completely unrelated note… how much longer do we think we can hold onto LeBeau?

by Varmint on Dec 17, 2008 4:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Vague-itude

The thing I like, is while he has at times been sorta like Belicheat when talking about injuries, hes not an asshole. Belicheat is an asshole.

by Mechem on Dec 17, 2008 7:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Tomlin reminds me of

Bill Clinton. He can give a reporter a coherent 1000 word reply to a question without ever answering the question. But the reply is so eloquent the reporter (and everyone else) doesn’t even realize his question wasn’t answered.

by JHolmes on Dec 18, 2008 11:18 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Lol at that comparison

Lets just hope MT doesnt have a sex scandal

by Mechem on Dec 18, 2008 4:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

play clock

did he steelers ever snap the ball with more than 2 seconds on the play clock against the ravens?

by thetackle on Dec 17, 2008 5:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

good question

I dont think we did. I really don’t like that. I’m wondering if he’s been informed to do that by the coaching staff. I think that contributes to part of the ‘flow’ and rhythm (or lack there of) on offense.

by Blitzburgh on Dec 17, 2008 5:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It certainly contributes to the Ravens getting a running start on most plays.

Guns don't kill people. Lamar Woodley kills people.

by BostonWahoo on Dec 17, 2008 5:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

not to mention

my heart nearly stopping every freakin’ play wondering if we’re even going to get it off…

by acrollet on Dec 17, 2008 10:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Could not agree more.

by thedonger on Dec 17, 2008 5:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Great point

I’ve been wondering about that for the past couple games. It seems like we run the clock down to Zero on every play. Not only does it allow Defenses to time blitzes, but it also risks delay of game penalties. Against the Ravens this worked, somewhat mysteriously, to our advantage with the Ravens getting an offsides or two and our offense avoiding a DOG merely because it didn’t seem that the Ref’s were really watching the clock too closely.

by SteelerBuddha on Dec 17, 2008 5:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What I heard

Ben’s doing this on purpose. Basically he wants to see the blitz coming. That to him is more useful then getting a snap off without them being ready for it. It makes sense somewhat, especially given our hard time with complex blitz pick ups. The protection schemes are trying to find the blitzers and the ‘Mike’.

by Chicago Steeler on Dec 18, 2008 12:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Props Maryrose

Great post.
“Norv Turner retreads,” ha!
(But then why Larry Z?)

by thedonger on Dec 17, 2008 5:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

big difference between

retread coordinators and retread head coaches. Heck, we had guys like Chan Gailey. There’s only so many viable offensive line candidates, where as theres tons and tons of potential diamoinds in the rough as potential head coaches.

by Blitzburgh on Dec 17, 2008 5:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

BA for coach of the year

Agreed Norv Turner is a retread OC who has no business being a HC IMHO. He’s destroyed a great football team. That’s the difference between Mike T and Norv. Cowher had the same SB team and we didn’t make the playoffs in 06. Now Tomlin has 11 new starters from the XL SB team…ELEVEN. This is his team now. I know there are core players, but every team has core players (see Clev, Chi, GB) and don’t do this well.
As for BA, I do miss the days of a FB, but 4 new (kind of) starters on the OL; I think BA isn’t effing the offense. Nate’s gotta catch the ball, Ben’s got to get rid of the ball, and the OL has to run block (which they can’t do). BA only has so much control…

by Philly Hawg on Dec 17, 2008 10:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

it was not until exactly half this season I came up to actualy like Tomlin a lot. I was very skeptical last year and since our offensive game planning was and has struggled a lot I couldnt simply think it was 100% Arians and nothing on Tomlin, but even if he does have some fault with our poor Offense, and even if he sounds very “duuhh” every press conference (actually it seems like he is changing that slowly for the better!) I cannot disagree with most of you. He is great and special. I think, he has potential to be huge and so does our team with him in command. I think his greatest characteristics comes to how he is handling players issues and provading a great positive atmosphere outside the football field. He is young and it works very well for him, you can just see how special is his connection with most of our players, Just like a real broder to some. Its clear to me he gets along much better with his players than Cowher and possibly any other coach right now..

by setherian on Dec 17, 2008 6:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Youth

is a big part of that comradarie with the players. I remember hearing a lot of the same said about Cowher in the mid-90’s, how they respected him, because they could relate to him. After 15 years at the helm, he was no longer the same age (or near it) as any of his players.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Dec 19, 2008 12:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Tomlin

About 6 months before he was hired, I was watching an NFL films show. They had Tomlin miked up talking to his Minnesota defense. I watched for 30 seconds and thought to myself, this guy is special!! It was obvious.

Fast forward to Steelers coaching search. When I heard there was a sleeper canidate that was making quite an impression, and he was from Minnesota, I immediately thought back to the NFL show…and I thought wow, I hope they hire “that guy” (I couldn’t remember his name). Needless to say, count me as one that was sold immediately on Tomlin.

Kudos to the Rooneys. As Steeler fans, one of the best run organizations in all of professional sports, we get spoiled and forget to give credit where credit is due…it all starts from the top (and I mean the very top).

Heading into the playoffs as a 1 or 2 seed. I can’t wait to see how we will respond. Cowher…really liked him…but…and this is a huge but…I felt in big games, really big games (AFC championship s ), he was way too uptight and conservative…and we played like it…and lost because of it (until of course last SB, where we played much more open and loose).

Again can’t wait to see how Tomlin responds. I bet he has them playing aggressive, loose, and having fun…I love the guy!!!

MR is correct…Tomlin’s soundbites are awesome…

by SteelerMike on Dec 17, 2008 6:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Cowher coaching tight in big games

I think he did too, and like you, I was a big fan of his. I think being a Steelers fan growing up may have added a little pressure to him when it came to crunch time.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Dec 19, 2008 12:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I forgot to add

something I remember hearing from Art Rooney II during the head coach search. He was asked, what they look for in a head coach. His response, (I’m paraphrasing), went something to the effect, " when we think of the next head coach of the Steelers, we think, when this guy (a perspective coach) walks into the room, can he get the players attention."

I think that is the ultimate key. All these other teams are hiring coaches based on how much experience they have, what scheme they may bring, etc etc. etc

 Imo, and the Rooneys, all of that is secondary. The ultimate question is, will players play for this coach? Will they listen to this guy? Will they follow him, even when they don’t want to? These are the straight to the point, narrow-focused issues that matter most.

With Coach T. they answers are obviously yes, yes, and yes. Btw, we also know he has a keen football mind. Other teams (lets be specific…team owners) just don’t get it when it comes to hiring head coaches. Again, I fully express my gratitude to the Rooneys and am thankful for such great understanding of what it takes to lead.

One last point…it won’t always be as rosy. There will be peaks and valleys. Tomlin will be tested again and again. I expect this, because not only is it the nature of football, it’s the nature of life. There will be mistakes. There will be times and seasons we don’t live up to expectations. I implore patience. Sh** happens. But I’m convinced he is the man to lead us through those peaks and valleys for the next 15 years.

by SteelerMike on Dec 17, 2008 7:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Very Well said....

and I couldn’t agree more, esp about the peaks and valleys. I loved the identity and character that “the Chin” brought to our team, but I had the feeling during the abysmal 2006 season that it was time for him to hang it up or move on. What M.T. has brought is well chronicled above, but I also add to that mix a sense of purpose, urgency, and MISSION. Living in Ohio, I have to laugh at the Browns fans (and media) chomping at the bit to hire Cowher. When he was wearing the black and gold he was public enemy number one, slandered, threatened, and called names that are unfit to type…..now all of a sudden…not to mention their desire to maybe get Marty back. Lest they forget how he got run out of town the first time. With all that said, I’ll take M.T. and the Rooney’s any day or time. Class coacc for a class organization.

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by OhioYinzer on Dec 18, 2008 9:43 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

great post MaryRose (as per usual)

I’m basically repeating your post, but I think that one of the most impressive things about Tomlin is the way he seems to have managed to thread the needle between having his players really like him and still maintaining respect and complete authority… Most people manage to do one or the other pretty well, but it takes serious leadership to get both.

by acrollet on Dec 17, 2008 11:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

thats said very well

Said differently thatn MR, but very wise acrollet. Easy to have people like you, and easy to be a unrelenting hardass. Hard to toe the line. Interesting point.

by Blitzburgh on Dec 18, 2008 6:15 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Tomlin

First , please let me point out that there is a great truth we Steelers fans must recognize and that is: WE CAN NOT DEAL WITH CHANGE very well.

To me the BA issue is a clear cut case and point. I think personally he should stay. I think he and coach T can get together in the offseason and continue to fine tune what I think is going to be a darn good offense. So I thing coach T will stick with him. And as far as Bad Maafala goes with is love for Tomlin being conditional to the fate of BA. I say to hell with you. What kind of Steeler fan is that? And anybody else who feels that way.

And kudos to No Cal-Steel City. I love your point about the founding and the implementation of the interviewing rule. That what makes the Rooney’s easy to gravitate to.

Lastly, Tomlin has alrady gone throuth peaks and valleys since he’s been coach. The man is a tone setter for the league as a whole and I think he has the traits of a legend.

by C-Mac on Dec 18, 2008 10:49 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I’m pretty sure that we as fans can change our opinions on coaches based on their appreciation of talent – both players and assistant coaches. But yeah, you know, to hell with the fans that actually expect their coaches to make smart decisions. Good riddance.

by steelguy99 on Dec 18, 2008 11:07 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Very harsh

To condemn MaaFala for his thoughts. He is a great football mind on this site. I do not agree with him that Tomlin is tarnished for keeping Arians around this year. Last season Roethlisberger had the best season of any Steeler quarterback in history and FWP was the league’s leading rusher until a late-season injury. That is hardly grounds for dismissing an OC. My plan is to dismiss the line coach and see if that solves the problem. Arians is a play-caller, not a line coach. If anything, Arians’ job is infinitely harder because of what is happening up front. However, if a new line coach does not solve the problem, then I will join Maafala and admit he was right all along. In the meantime, please show some respect and not dispatch each other to hell. This site is better than that.

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by maryrose on Dec 18, 2008 11:18 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I am with you C-mac...

to hell with the whole conditional love/support. I just don’t understand how one could honestly feel that way: having a bond so tenuous that a few decisions you found disagreeable could ultimately change your support. If that is how anybody actually feels, then to hell with you. Root for the Steelers, root for the Colts, root for Bears…I could care less who or what you root for, because your only a bad game, a bad season, a bad decision away from withdrawing your support anyway, and IMHO, if your not willing to stick it out through the bad games, the bad seasons, the bad coaches, etc; if you are not will to suffer the bitter pain of real, heartfelt disappointment, then you will never expeirience the true joy and pleasure of success. And if we can’t share those moments, those emotions, well then we really don’t have very much to talk about of very much to share as fans, do we.

If that isn’t how your really feel, then drop the act. Deploy a different rhetorical strategy to get your point across, because placing conditions on your continued support makes you seem flippant at best and easily expendable fair-weather fan at worst.

by Rougue_Behaviorist on Dec 18, 2008 2:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I have always thought of BadMaafala as a fairweather fan. Maybe someday he’ll discontinue his bandwagon hopping days. You should see him after a bad loss, he goes absolutely insane. He even created an alter ego Beerman.

by steelguy99 on Dec 18, 2008 9:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I just don’t get why fans can’t be conditional.

I love all of our good players unless they suck for a year. Sorry, but if one of our CBs completely drops off for a whole year, they lose my support. I apologize that isn’t being “loyal”, but that’s the way the game is played.

Likewise, I expect our coaches to stay consistent. I’d have a hard time selling tomlin down the river given our record, but our offense is anemic. Tomlin supporting a coach that is awful is the same to me as a CB dropping balls all season. The awful coach, I think, is Z though.

by steelguy99 on Dec 18, 2008 10:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think Tomlin will get rid of BA

Arians has a pretty strong relationship with The Franchise. Ben now carries significant weight in the locker room and in the front office. That’s what happens when you sign a $100 million contract. His opinion counts for a lot. If Ben is happy with Bruce, he will stay.

I also don’t think firing BA will solve our problems on offense. He can’t catch passes, block, or throw the ball away in the face of pressure. His play calling has evolved significantly since the debacle in Philly. I think it is worth preserving the continuity of the team (a team that is on its way to a SB) to keep him around. With the team being as successful as it is, I think you only want to change the parts that you KNOW are broken.

by JHolmes on Dec 18, 2008 11:38 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

While I would say at times he doesnt do enough to help us get out of a jam, our guys tend to PUT us in that jam by dropping balls and missing blocks.

by Mechem on Dec 18, 2008 4:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The thing that has pissed me off the MOST about Arians

is his play-calling on short yardage. When you have a 4th and goal from the half yard line, you should run a QB sneak EVERY TIME. The last thing you want to do is hand off to a RB that lines up 7 yds in the backfield when you don’t have either a dominant OL or The Bus carrying the rock.

I also don’t like running play action on short yardage with this team. Ben is a good enough QB that he should be able to complete a short pass or run for a yard 75% of the time. Hamstringing him with a slow-developing PAP is not helping the cause, and the defense isn’t fooled because they KNOW we can’t run the ball to save our lives so they barely even honor the play fake.

by JHolmes on Dec 19, 2008 3:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

QB sneak every time.

Yeah, that sounds good until your franchise QB re-injures his shoulder (Washington game) or fumbles the football and injures his thumb (Dallas game).

by Jonny B. on Dec 20, 2008 1:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ba

I for one have been frustrated with ba this year. But I say give him one more year. Especially if we win the superbowl. We got a bunch of picks this year in the draft, lets trade 1 or 2 of them to move up to get a top-notch OL who can improve the line next year. then in the second round get another OL who can be good. Then focus on getting younger at the DL. With an improved oline if he still sucks then get rid of him but it doesn’t matter what OC you have if the line can’t block.

by tannofsteel84 on Dec 18, 2008 10:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Great post maryrose

I know I’m coming in a little late on this discussion, but this was an excellent post, ‘rose. I had some ideas, but I think everyone’s already hit on them. I was just a little shocked that no one had rec’ed this post after I read it. I loved how you pointed out that Tomlin has (so far this season) corrected all of the worst issues from last year, as well as turning the defense from a great defense last year to an all time great defense. The main thing for him to focus on next offseason will obviously be the OL.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Dec 19, 2008 12:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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