Roethlisberger Hands Titans 13th Win
Much more from me soon, but too bad we saw the Ben Roethlisberger again that tries to make far too much happen. For the screamers who immediately point at the offensive line, you couldn't be more wrong. At least in the passing game. This was one of their best games of the year in pass protection. Ben had all day to throw. ALL day, for the most part. So much time in fact that he thought it would be wise to double, and sometimes even TRIPLE pump with the ball. The result? 4 fumbles, 2 of which were lost. Including one at the goal line which stripped us of a sure 7 points. The other lost fumble gave Tennessee a cheap 3 points. There's your game basically, but of course it didn't help that one of the fumbles we recovered shot a positive looking offensive drive.
Anyway, the defense finally had one of those days where their opponents were just half a step better and faster than them. That's bound to happen. They still played decently enough to keep the game competitive, but for once, they needed the offense to bail them out a bit. The offense couldn't return the season long favor that the D has provided.
More on this disappointing loss soon. Stay sane please and civil! There were some very apparent positives to this one mired by all the dumb mental mistakes (turnovers and penalties).
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Too Bad
You guys had a lot on the line this game, but Titans were the better team today. Good luck next week against Cleveless. You will be seeing my Ravens in the post season, get ready guys.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning
Too bad
Would have of course loved to see the momentum kept up, but oh well. As for the seedings, ,it’s probably a blessing in disguise, assuming that we’ll get to face the #3 seed in the Divisional Round. Wouldn’t mind letting Indy have to bang with Tenneseee before playing us, if we were to win and get to the AFC title game.
by Michael Bean on Dec 21, 2008 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
Word Up
Big Ben cant expect to win when u have 2 interceptions and 4
fucking fumbles. Our defense had their worse game of the season and
didn;’t help out our offense like previous weeks.
About the only positive is no significant injuries and our punter
finally had a good game
by 2005steelers4life on Dec 21, 2008 4:43 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
ben
Had some real nice throws and plays in between all the mistakes, but it doesnt take much to negate an otherwise solid day. He did that and then some. Unreal how careless he was.
by Michael Bean on Dec 21, 2008 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
This is disturbing
Why does our 100 mil franchise QB look like he is just trying to feel his way around his job? It’s been 5 seasons, should’nt he be further along?
by jglo on Dec 21, 2008 4:51 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
well
He was doing better in the ball protection department during the win streak. He had gone 131 attempts without a pick before that first one today. Today he got a taste of success throwing the ball (he did have lots of yards for our seasons standards) and then got greedy in my opinion. Didn’t take check downs when they were there.
by Michael Bean on Dec 21, 2008 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
For Real
Jeff Fisher was probably trying to find Ben after the whistle to give him the game ball.
I have only three thoughts:
1) Beerman will probably come back out of the woodworks after a 6-week hiatus to begin the Leftwich chant once again.
2) No team can win every game in the 4th quarter. Despite this loss, it was nice to see a bit of offensive momentum early in the game.
3) Now I’m amped up and hopeful for a rematch in the AFC championship round.
i wouldn't come over to say this, buuuut...
whichever dude kept calling us the Ten’teeth Titans:
i’d rather have ten teeth than get my TEETH KICKED IN!!!!
See you guys back in nashville for the championship game…should be a war and a closer game than this one.
i hope mike shows the guys whites stomping on their terrible towel
Even though u guys talk about how Big Ben played.
look at our defense… they were completely exposed today
by 2005steelers4life on Dec 21, 2008 4:57 PM EST reply actions
ben
he showed signs of brilliance, yet showed signs of stupidity
unfortunately, what he did wrong affected us more than what he did right
by tha1andonly57@aim.com on Dec 21, 2008 4:57 PM EST reply actions
Yep, i thought ben had some great throws
But he has to start learning to take the check downs…
he is in his 5th year, should he not know that by now?
by 2005steelers4life on Dec 21, 2008 4:59 PM EST reply actions
cmon guys
he’s a superbowl winning QB. compare that with what we have right now with Vince.
Go Titans!
He has the physical skills, but
Somehow I think he hinders his development by probably not holding himself truly accountable for the mistakes he makes. I remember a snarkey comment on “holding on to the ball too long”
Cringe when Ben throws
Is it just me, or does everybody hold their breath every time ben drops back to throw the ball that it won’t be a turnover?
by woodley's a beast on Dec 21, 2008 5:03 PM EST reply actions
Lendale white dragging that Terrible Wash Cloth into the the ground was priceless
But a very rude statement. Maybe Karma will bite them in the ass, maybe not….
You have to hate losing more than you love winning
Keith Bullock
Im shocked their leader Keith Bullock decided to get into the action and grad a fake terrible towel and have his own fun with it. He should no better than to do garbage like that in the regular season when you could very well see that opponent again.
LenDale White
is a filthy maggot! Stomping on the TT is a big mistake…………….., he’ll see why!
STAY TUNED!
Every day brings future to past, every breath leaves me one less to my last. DT
Yeah The Terrible Towel
is the Steeler’s Nation’s Flag. Most of us have ours displayed prominantly somewhere. Mine is above my T.V. which is traditional. You just don’t desecrate the flag. Period.
Oh, I bet Lendale White is shaking in his boots having to possibly face the Steelers again (LOL)
Come on guy, the Steelers deserved to get dissed…they played like pansies today…so much for the tough physical play that Tomlin keeps peddling…the defense sucked a little, but the offense is pitiful…I AGREE WITH WHOEVER SAID, YOU HAVE TO HATE LOSING MORE THAN YOU LOVE WINNING…the STEELERS HAVE NO LEADERSHIP IN THE LOCKER ROOM OR ON THE COACHING STAFF…and I AM A DIRE HARD STEELERS FAN AND HAVE BEEN SO FOR OVER 30 YEARS, but I’m calling it like I see it…where is Jerome on offense and Joey Porter when we need them???
Alright guys that enough on bb
What about our god-damn defense, we are running outta gas, New England
Dallas(tashard choice), Baltimore(Leron mclain) , Tenessse ( White/Johnson)
It also seemed like today that every time Collins dropped back that he completed a pass
It was BULLSHIT
by 2005steelers4life on Dec 21, 2008 5:06 PM EST reply actions
lets keep the profanity
in control please. Thanks.
by Michael Bean on Dec 21, 2008 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
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Cant keep them out their all day like that. We need to produce drives.
Ben is undoubtedly streaky and as they say in sales your only as good as your last month.
It does not matter anymore that he won a super-bowl. What matters is can you be like your idol (John Elway) and win two – BUT then again John had a running game to help him out!!!!
Sorry Blitzburgh, I just cant believe what happened to ur defense
Dang boys, and we wont have the momentum going in to the playoffs
Its not like we will play any of our starters next week and then we got the first round bye
We could be very rusty, when time comes to play the Divisional Playoffs
by 2005steelers4life on Dec 21, 2008 5:09 PM EST reply actions
Dude, it's ONE game...
One bad game by the defense and you give up on them? I sure hope that Mike Tomlin and his men don’t give up that easy!
And I’m sure they won’t!!
I mean…if you were a Patriots fan, and last year when they lost the SB, would you have been saying…“well, they lost one…boy they suck!!”
Tell you what, every time I see this team get a beating in one form or another (which isn’t much!), they come right back. I believe they’ll bounce back and/or rest key players next week….then when the playoffs get going you’ll see the fire that makes this team great and the defense awesome.
I agree, the defense did have a letdown, but...
I put 80% of the loss to the Titans on Ben and the lack of a running game…the defense is tired, and rightfully so, having carried Ben and the offense for practically the entire season…
It's like a curse
Everytime we are lauded we come up short. They are at their best when underrated. I think the adulation goes to their head.
Therapy
All I know is this stuff is therapy after watching these guys play. You have to decompress after watching these guys.
I grew up in Denver and they used to call them the Cardiac Kids – well now thats the Steelers. These guys will cause you to get blood pressure meds.
How come when you guys beat My Ravens last week
All you talked about was how much in good shape you were for the post season. You were all so excited for the next game and thought to be invincible.
Now you guys lose to the Titans and its the end of the world and Big Ben is again the worst QB you guys have ever seen and you will not go anywhere in the playoffs. ITS 1 Game guys! You beat my ravens last week and I immediately thought of how we are going to beat Dallas and keep up our image.
Relax guys, you know what you are capable of, and we have seen it all year. Just get ready….
You have to hate losing more than you love winning
Gut Check
They got cocky. A week of magazine covers, PTI interviews, Super Bowl talk. I never like the Steelers getting that recognition. And I didn’t think it was deserved really…those games against Baltimore and Dallas were hardly worth celebrating. Both games were disappointing for 55 minutes…
Anyway, I kinda like this loss. This team needed a gut-check to keep them focused. That’s exactly what they got. The defense just won’t let that happen again. And I’m sure Ben remembers that his number one duty is take care of the ball.
I don’t think this loss really says that much about our chances. In a way, I think it could be more useful than a win.
by SteelerInVirginia on Dec 21, 2008 5:16 PM EST reply actions
To be quite honest,
Im with Blitzburg in that no one on this blog should blame the O-line. This was mostly Ben’s fault. It is really ironic how Ben gets all the time in the world to throw the ball, and he can’t quite get it done. And what makes it makes it most dis graceful is they hardly blitzed.
I also want do draw some attention to our grat defense who really got beat up. How say I say that? They were running the ball on us like crazy. And of course you all know. When your are running the ball well, that usually indicates that you defense isplaying soft. I love this defense but the fact of the matter is that we looked pretty tired.
Lastly, it would be great to see us play the Titans in the playoff because we just can’t have people disrespecting our Terrible Towel. That’s personal! Any thoughts?
Disrespecting the Towel
Last person stomping on the towel like that (that I recall) was Houshamamandnadnadanazadeh. That was 05, when they locked up the division. And it didn’t work out too well for them in the playoffs. It’s never a smart move…..
by SteelerInVirginia on Dec 21, 2008 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
Huh?
They were running the ball on us like crazy.
They grossed 117 yards. Good, but not great.
By comparison, recent teams have run for 112 (Ravens) and 122 (Pats) when rushing. If anything, I was more ticked off by Collins making connections with his receivers. They put up 216 passing yards during the game. That’s more than Romo, Eli, McNabb, or Cassel. The only QB to have a better game against us was Peyton.
No, the Titans came with a balanced attack. I don’t think we were able to crush their running game, because Collins was throwing much better than expected.
Mr Malor get outta hear u ravens fan, go to the ravens blog
by 2005steelers4life on Dec 21, 2008 5:16 PM EST reply actions
nothing to talk about
he is here because thats how uninteresting his own team is
We are real uninterresting
AFTER WE JUST SHUT DOWN DALLAS STADIUM!
Jerry Jones hand picked the Ravens to play in this game cause he saw it as an easy win. WRONG!!
You have to hate losing more than you love winning
Malor's being respectful
there’s no reason he can’t join in the fun. Rough game today. Another tough one to watch. Its frustrating to watch our offense struggle so much this season. Ben, whew, not a good day. Seriously though, It was bound to happen. Our offense has been carried by our defense practically the whole year. They were bound to have a so-so outing. We will come back next week and crush Cleveland and then take a nice, deep breath and dive into the playoffs.
Playing time
Itll be interesting to see how long Tomlin plays the starters next week. I think Ben needs to play at least the first half to get some confidence back. I also think the offensive line should play almost the entire game if not all of it.
As for the defense, if Harrison is banged up, I dont think he should play that much. Very interested to see what Clark’s status is, not for next week but the playoffs. Everyone should play for a good amount of time.
Will be interesting
We are realtvely healthy. (I think.) We don’t want any injuries to any starters in a game that means very, very little. On the other hand, we dont want to come out in 3 weeks from now and be flat either.
Also,
I think alot of growth can come from this loss and Tomlin is the man to mature them.
yeah do u guys know the severity of Ryan Clark's Injury?
by 2005steelers4life on Dec 21, 2008 5:19 PM EST reply actions
WELL MR MaLor....
Your tag says it all.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
It is very true
But if anyone can bounce back and show the NFL up and especially the Titans, it is the Steelers.
I do not know if it is a good idea to stomp on that towel and talk all that smack. That defense is not the group of guys you want to upset.
You may have a chance to get them in the AFC championship game, but I see you facing the Ravens in that one, as we are out to set some things straight with the Titans as well.
Goodluck
You have to hate losing more than you love winning
Wtf Mr.Malor go to Baltimore Beatdown
Stop trying to mentor us Steeler Fans, Its annoying dude
by 2005steelers4life on Dec 21, 2008 5:28 PM EST reply actions
hey man
we are all football fans here, and hes just giving his outside opinion on the lose
by tha1andonly57@aim.com on Dec 21, 2008 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
Enough with this junk
He’s got sensible opinions and adds to the discourse, you and SOLO are just squirting off in every thread you can find. Get some backbone and take your medicine.
by BallsofSteel on Dec 21, 2008 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
lol
Just trying to be a nice guy here man, what is wrong with that.
Dont let your anger out on me, its only a game right?
You have to hate losing more than you love winning
I would disagree with the blame falling solely on Ben
Why did Ben have all day to throw? Because the Titans didn’t blitz much. Most pass plays, they rushed 4 guys (all down linemen). So yes, Ben had all day to throw most plays, but he also had 7 defenders in coverage to deal with.
I think the first fumble was a result of Ben being too agressive…but you know what, he’s trying to make things happen. And we should be used to seeing him do that; great risk/reward.
The second fumble I don’t blame Ben for: there was pressure on Colon’s side (shocking) and Ben stepped up and had the ball knocked out of his hand. Big mistake, sure, but entirely his fault.
I think that a larg portion of the blame falls squarely on Colon and Starks. Seemingly every single pass play Starks and Colon were beat on the outside. The guy that Colon was supposed to block recording 4 sacks today, and on two of them Ben had NO chance to even throw the ball away.
The reason the Titans won today is because their offensive line dominated our front 7, and their defensive line beat our offensive line. The game was won/lost in the trenches today. Ben’s turnovers were devestating (the 1st fumble and 1st int were extremely costly), but our oline lost the head-to-head battle in the running game and passing game. Hartwig is the only guy on the oline that’s playing well right now.
In my opinion…
by NoCal-SteelCity on Dec 21, 2008 5:40 PM EST reply actions
About Big Ben..
Hi No-cal,
With as much civiility as I can muster, I STRONGLY DISAGREE THAT THE BLAME SHOULD NOT FALL ON BIG BEN. EVERY LOSS OR NEAR LOSS THE STEELERS HAVE HAD HAS BEEN BEN’S FAULT. He is trying to be something he is not, i.e. Petyon Manning, Tom Brady, or (forgive me Mr. Bradshaw), Terry Bradshaw…he is the franchise player. He needs to start playing like it. If he doesn’t learn how to get rid of the ball without taking a sack every other pass play or throwing an interception, he will always be the Achilles Heel for the Steelers until they finally find a real quarterback, someone like a Matt Ryan or Joe Flacco..
hold on now
Ben was not the only player who failed today. Our defense missed a ton of tackles. We had NO run game. And, I think, LeBeau called a relatively bad game (our db’s were in zone coverage too much against inferior wideouts which left the short passing game open all day long). So, Ben didn’t play well today, but I would say only Santonio and Mitch Berger really did
And to say that we need to find a “real qb like Joe Flacco or Matt Ryan” is insane. Ben has won 50 games in 5 seasons. No one has EVER done that. He’s won a Super Bowl, a rookie of the year award, and played in the Pro Bowl. I think we have a “real” quaterback. Even Favre, Montana, Elway, Marino had bad years.
by NoCal-SteelCity on Dec 22, 2008 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
"BIG" Ben
Give me a break. How the Steelers have gotten this far is, incredibly, a magic show. How anyone could spend money, and BIG bucks, to watch these second-rate “Professionals” make more money is nuts. They, like all other Western PA sports teams are second-rate. Always have been and always will be. Sick of hearing about “BIG” Ben.
His head is screwed off. Maybe the motorcycle accident made it worse.
Now, we have to go through a week off hearing the “analyst’s” comments and all the opinions about the OL and so-on…anything for an excuse for those high paid bums.! Every talk show concerning the Steeler’s won’t let it go all week. Every week, some excuse. Every week, some big news. Every week, more crap on the TV and Radio.
Talke your Black and Gold jersey’s and flags and proudly stuff ’em!
You all should be embarrased to even think about wearing Steeler junk!!!
Why do YOU PAY for the privilege of watching someone make money?
More money than brains.
Surely a shame.
by Broadway Ben on Dec 21, 2008 5:47 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
No-Cal
Not “pissx’d” and you can’t get me there, die hard!
Just being realistic.
Maybe ONLY Steeler Fans should have paid for the new Stadium? What a Great Idea!
You are Surely a Shame as well
See you at the Mall wearing your Steeler Sweats!!
Here we GO Steelers, here we GO…..keep going, all the way out of the city!!!
YOU started it.
by Broadway Ben on Dec 21, 2008 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
how bout you leave the city?
The Steelers are much more important to the city of Pittsburgh than you are. I’m guessing they generate more revenue than you, they probably provide more jobs than you do as well. So, if you’re so against the Steelers, and all of Western PA sports, why don’t you leave?
Problem solved.
by NoCal-SteelCity on Dec 21, 2008 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
You are a sick "fan"
Welcome from Overseas:
Don’t bet your last dollar on what you stated.
Never said I was against “all of Western PA” sports. I donate more than your salary every year with NO DOUBT about it. But it is not to those “Monkies”.
I put it where it counts.
KIDS!!!!!!!
Leave?
You’d probably lose your job! Without question.
Keep paying for “we are building for the future”. Eat it up.
Big Ben has a head problem, just like Steve Blass did as a Pirate!
He can’t make the BIG one. And he won’t.
Tomlin has to open his eyes. Ah, to have Chuck back!!!
He has got to love this!
Rooney’s are Millionaires. You don’t get get it.
Then ran Boose! And who know what else from Canada…..
Yeah right, GO STELLERS GO.
Test me and I’ll put it all here. FACTS!!!!
You need a new hobby!! But keep your Steelers Shirt On!
It will make you feel better>
Keep it up or let it go.
Your Choice.
by Broadway Ben on Dec 22, 2008 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
we get it
You’re better than everyone on here and make more money than everyone on here. And you’re smarter than us.
Yeah and something about "monkies"
Weren’t they a rock n roll group? Oh no, wait, that was the “Monkees”. Must be some kinda racial slur or somethin’. Oh well. It’s all good in da hood.
We need to be able to rank and ignore posts, Blitz
by BallsofSteel on Dec 21, 2008 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
u can use the flag tool under actions
and rec comments u think are sensible. they change colors when theres enough flags and recs. points out the crap nonsense and sensible thinking both.
by Michael Bean on Dec 21, 2008 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, cool
I’m checking it out now, can’t believe I missed it. Thanks.
by BallsofSteel on Dec 21, 2008 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
like you reccommend something
It’s under ‘actions’
by Michael Bean on Dec 23, 2008 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
Recs
Should be “reception” as someone stated in another thread.
While we’re at it: change “flag” to “sack”. :)
hehe
Offsides or Unsportsmanlike conduct could work too. Guess that second one would be a little long :)
by Michael Bean on Dec 23, 2008 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
Needed to lose
Steelers needed to lose this one to get back on focus for the playoffs.
Too much was going right. Both the offense and defense played unfocus today, a result of 2 weeks worth of emotional roller coaster games.
All is well, playoffs, here we come.
important point
I think today’s loss will provide a wake up call (like the Giants/Colts games). We can’t “lay in waiting” all game. We need to go out and make a statement early. In the second/third qtr, I thought we were going to take complete control of the game…but not the case today.
by NoCal-SteelCity on Dec 21, 2008 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
I kind of agree here...
I’m not sure they “needed” to lose…it’s not like they were undefeated or anything.
But everyone loses in pro football, except the 72 dolphins.
I was a little worried that maybe they would win both of the regular season games and then be due for a loss in the playoffs.
That probably doesn’t matter much…but I’m sure losing helps to get refocused and stay hungry.
I was concerned earlier in the week when BB said the game wasn’t urgent. Maybe it wasn’t a must win…but still…it said something about maybe a turning downt the focus and fire.
This team just won a huge tough stretch of games. They can do so again and make it to and win the Super Bowl! I believe!!!!
I hope you're right Ragnor, but by putting the game in Ben's hands, I'm just worried they won't even win a playoff game
You’re point about Ben’s comment that the game “wasn’t urgent” furthermore supports my point that Ben is not committed to winning and is not the leader of that offense…the problem is, who is the leader, not only of that offense, but the team period???
yes, you are missing something
ELEVEN WINS!
...die trying
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by agentorange on Dec 22, 2008 7:58 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I didn't get to see the game this week...
I had to work. But if we had to lose a game, this wasnt so bad. Every team has a down week or two. The NYG got beat by Cleveland….convincingly. We just need to refocus and get ready for the playoffs. We get a laugher at home against the Clowns next week, a bye to get healthy, and the No 2 seed. I honestly don’t think that Ten is going all the way to the championship, so its likely that the no 2 is just as good as the no 1. We also will get to avoid Baltimore (the only team that really scares me) until the final, if they make it that far. I think we can take the colts. If our D plays to its potential and the offense limits mistakes, I dont think there’s anyone who can beat us.
I was at the game
I was amazed how many of your fellow Steelers fans were present. Have to say the ones I met were classy. Great game if your a Titans fan not so much for you guys I would imagine. I am sure we will see each other again soon. Y’all come back ya hear.
PS. Dude get over the Lendale stomping the wash cloth thing its not that big of a deal.
Well...
To us it kinda is….
Its like stepping on our “flag” which symbolizes our team. I was not happy at all when i saw that, shows poor sportsmanship!
by steelersfan86 on Dec 21, 2008 6:36 PM EST up reply actions
THE STEELERS SUCKED ASS TODAY!!!!!
Every day brings future to past, every breath leaves me one less to my last. DT
I blame blitz, it is really his fault. If he had not assured us a win we wouldn’t be in this posiitons. How can we expect to win with Blitzburgh making excuses and not allowing beerman to assure us of how awesome the titans are?
I'll drink your Milkshake, I'll drink it up!
by Frank Mineo (DYMS) on Dec 21, 2008 6:22 PM EST reply actions
Two words: Trap Game
I had a feeling that a let-down game was inevitable at some point. After so many weeks of must-wins against tough opponents, and immediately following a huge road win against our big division rival this year, we suddenly found ourselves in a game we didn’t “need” to win, with our playoff spot and 1st round bye clinched. Add to that the 12-2 opponent and a week of puff pieces by the national sports media, and it had all the makings of a trap game.
If I’m Tomlin, I use this loss to remind the team that they’re not as invincible or destined for greatness as they spent all last week hearing and reading. I still think we’re as good as any other contender this year, but you still have to play with urgency and out-execute your opponents.
Beating a Dead Horse
At the risk of repeating other comments and to vent my frustrations, here are a couple items:
The Steelers can’t seem to handle success well. In point of fact this loss may be just the tonic that both the offense and defense needed to function as well as they can.
Using a double tight end set or a fullback by committee does not work for us, Until we get back to fullback / halfback setup, we will never be able to punch the ball in. This desire of ours to use tight ends in lieu of a good blocking fullback is not working and won’t in the future. I hate to go the way the majority of the league is going, but I did see that those teams that employ a decent run blocking offensive line with a blocking fullback and good halfbacks seem to have done very well this week and most of the season. Here’s hoping that this lack hasn’t doomed us in the playoffs and will either be corrected now or before the next season.
by manchesterheights on Dec 21, 2008 6:44 PM EST reply actions
Agree
Lack of a physical running game will doom us in playoffs.
by Steelers fan in Boston on Dec 21, 2008 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
Ryan Clark/James Harrison
Harrison seemed to come back ok, but Clark left at the end… any update on him???
ESPN has a little bit on Clark
At the end of their story on the game, they say Clark thought he separated his shoulder, but now he thinks it’s ok.
They don’t mention any official medical report though.
No news on Harrison’s hip…seems like he’s fine.
harrison should sit next week
I think Ben needs to play at least a half; but no reason for Harrison, Polamalu, Clark, Snack to play.
by Michael Bean on Dec 21, 2008 8:05 PM EST up reply actions
Harrison is NOT fine
He definitely lost at least a step or two after the injury. I know he got a sack later on, but that was largely a function of him being matched with a TE in pass pro and Collins holding the ball too long. He did not look like himself against the run or coming off the edge after he came back.
Ryan Clark played his worst game as a pro and ultimately cost us the game just as much as Ben did. I hope his shoulder is ok though. He’s still a valuable piece.
Better Have the Letdown Now
Seriously, this season has been such a grind. We have the bye – that is the prize that I care most about. The guys probably need a small respite from the constant war – and it looks like they started taking that today. Sure, you can say that’s not professional and I get that, but I don’t agree. Most teams are not going to be on all the time and today we weren’t. Not the end of the world.
by rushthequarterback on Dec 21, 2008 7:03 PM EST reply actions
Game of inches
If we don’t get the unsportsman like conduct, we’re down by only 6 points with plenty of time to score. That ONE call changed the complexity of the game, now it’s a two possession. But a bye means more to us than a #1 seed, so now we can rest our starters next week too, and not worry about getting banged up against the Browns.
Titans lost to the Texans who just got stomped by the Raiders…it’s one game.
yeah that was big
but it was kind of fitting since there was a no call on that BLATANT defensive PI on Clark in the end zone two plays earlier
by NoCal-SteelCity on Dec 21, 2008 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't see PI there.
Maybe I should take my SteelerVision goggles off…
blatant?
really? i don’t understand what you saw that i didn’t…
...die trying
http://www.agentorangerecords.blogspot.com
you didn't see Clark grab the receiver
with his right hand, that caused the receiver to spin to the left, then Clark tripped him. The only reason they didn’t call PI is because the ref thought the ball was initially tipped, which it wasn’t.
by NoCal-SteelCity on Dec 22, 2008 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
Someone explain that call to me
I didn’t get to see it during the game.
by BallsofSteel on Dec 21, 2008 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
i think
basically our guys were screwing with their snap counts, imitating it, etc. Thats an unsportsmanlike penalty. Really dumb.
by Michael Bean on Dec 21, 2008 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
Especially since the FG was a moot point.
The game still would have been our’s to win after that.
A few missed comments and ?s:
*Willie Colon Sux!
*Parker is clearly not 100% yet. Just the way he jogs to the sidelines in between plays
already shows how carefulll and worried he is with his joints.
*Am I the only one who thinks Heath Miller cannot block?
*Am I the only one wondering how painfull it could be to have BB playing that inconsistent for more 5-8 years for us?
*Bruce Arians Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuxxxxxxxx!!!!!!!!!! (Thank you, im feeling better now!)
No duh.
Ya think?
Yes.
Not sure what you were trying to type but probably no.
BA does suck! (Thank you, I feel better, too.)
Heath is not a good blocking TE.
Love him all you want, just please admit his limitations.
Yeah I didn't mean to agree with setherian
I just meant to say he’s not the second coming of Ditka like some seem to think.
Agreed.
Heath is more of a receiving tight end much like Shannon Sharpe, if only we utilized him more. He had a career high 8 catches yesterday in almost four seasons. Let’s see more of that. Blocking is not his strongpoint for sure, but it’s the coaches job to put “the aces in their places”. In other words, identify what each player does best and put them in a position to exploirt that.
we don't have a pro bowl nose tackle
we have an overweight, out of shape nose tackle who made the pro bowl in the past.
I’m not hating on Snack, but, he was nowhere to be found today. Our line needs him to fill gaps and occupy the center and a guard. He was going against Mawae, who’s arguably the best center in the game, but Snack has largely disappointed me lately.
by NoCal-SteelCity on Dec 22, 2008 1:02 AM EST up reply actions
Truth
We saw old Snack against NE when he got defensive holding called against him.
Too bad we can’t get that kind of intensity from him for 30-35 snaps a game. Hell, I’d settle for 15.
One of the reasons TEN was able to run the ball was that they didn’t have to double Hamp with a C-G combo block. That’s why our LBs were having so much trouble getting to the ball. Go back and watch HLs of Johnson’s runs. There are Gs in Farrior and Foote/Timmons’ face on all of them. With Mawae locked up with 98.
I think
that is as much a credit to Mawae as it is a criticism of Big Snack.
yea
He could use the rest too, bigtime. Chirs Hoke should get at least 30 snaps next week. You’re spot on – Titans OL were getting to the 2nd level lots in the 2nd half, which is rare.
by Michael Bean on Dec 22, 2008 2:00 AM EST up reply actions
Bench Big Ben
The Steelers have had some great teams over the past 15 years with mediocre QBs. Ben is just another also-ran in the mold of Malone, Stewart, and Maddox. Any QB that doesn’t turn the ball over can be successful here. I am tired of Ben’s brain freezes in critical situations. The “comebacks” the past few weeks were necessitated by his turnovers earlier in the games. This week was pathetic. I’m not sure how he can show his face in the lockeroom. I hope Leftwich gets a chance next week and in the playoffs.
wow.
i can’t believe you can actually type that paragraph. i can only hope that you did it sarcastically, with a smile on your face. ben is “just another also-ran in the mold of malone, stewart, and maddox”? how many of them won a superbowl? how many games did they win? how many huge 4th quarter comebacks? i mean, that kind of comment is not only ridiculous, but by saying/writing it, you not only embarass yourself but all of steeler nation. i love being a part of the nation, but when people start saying incredibly stupid and reactive stuff like this i am a little ashamed.
...die trying
http://www.agentorangerecords.blogspot.com
Yeah I saw Malone play (along with Woodley amd Stoudt)
And believe me BB is no Mark Malone! He is a future HOFer, so get your sorry ass back on the bandwagon, Z man.
wow 2
agentorange — the truth hurts. This team could win with at least 6 or 8 other QB’s currently in the league. Let’s be honest — outside of the Pittsburgh fandom, is there anyone talking about BB as being a future HofFer? One of the great QBs of this era? This team has won this year, like many other years, on great defense. How many times has BB admitted post game that he “cost us the game?” One of these times his teammates are going to say – “you’re damned right, you did”.
You are absolutely right!!
Brain freeze is a misnomer.
Here is a guy who has to write every play on his wrist???
There is no continuity on the team.
None.
by Broadway Ben on Dec 22, 2008 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
Ditto on Big Ben, Bruce Arians, Willie Colon, lack of a physical running game
Big Ben has definitely sucked this year, but he’s shown he can play well at times, so I’m willing to let him start, but I would bench him in a heartbeat if he starts throwing interceptions and turning over the balll. Willie Colon and Darnell Stapleton both suck in my oninion as offense lineman…why didn’t we sign someone liike Willie Anderson when he was a free agent? Don’t get me started on Bruce Arians…I’m still questioning the decision to let Ken Wisenhunt and Russ Grimm go, and yes, I am an African American and am supportive of any coach, black, white or other, who can produce!! Finally, on the running game, I think the solution is simple…sit Willie Parker down, start Mewelde Moore, let Willie come off the bench to give MW a breather, and either use Gary Russell or Cary Davis in short yardage, or bring back Najeh Davenport (I never could figure why they let Najeh go and draft Rashard Mendenhall)
I want an All Pro-bowlers Steelers team
Why couldn’t the Steelers have drafted an all Pro-bowl team. I mean they had as good a chance as any other team to trade up and down in the draft to get better players. Why didn’t they get Eli? Can anybody explain to me why we are not 15 and 0. I mean we are the Steelers. Look at what AZ has done. I mean they wrapped up a playoff spot three weeks ago and now they can just cruise into the playoffs; they’ve been resting their player for like 3 weeks. BA? WTF? We should have the best OL, WR, TE, and RB in the league. If only we’d kept Faneca and Krieder we’d be #1 in the AFC. And where the hell is Chuck Noll? Why’d we fire him? Cowher could have been our special teams coach and with Lebeu as DC and Bill Walsh as OC. OMG!!!! And yes, I’m an African American and supportive of any coach who has won 4 SBs.
by Philly Hawg on Dec 22, 2008 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
Wow, let's bench all our staters!
They all suck. we’d win more with our back-ups. Let’s see how many we can win with Byron, dookie, and anthony smith! How in the world did we manage to win any games let alone 11? Wow! Deep breath, people…….1 loss per month is pretty good these days, I’d take it every year!
Let's Go!
The game essentially boils down to a few plays: The fumble on the 1; Allowing 19 yards on 3rd and 20 setting up the touchdown run; Reed missing the field goal; the unsportsmanlike conduct penalty on the field goal attempt setting up another touchdown. Just change those plays and the game is completely different – most likely we have an easy victory. As odd as it sounds, the team recovered from most of Ben’s mistakes today, the defense still played solid they were just a little off, it is bound to happen at least once. No worries, next week is Cleveland and then a bye, and then likely another game against Indy (I believe). Let’s all pray that somehow Baltimore misses the playoffs, it would make us all a little happier just out of spite.
Okay Akmed, let's see what happens next week at home against Cleveland...
If they can win that game handily, and particularly if Ben and the offense can have a much better game against an inferior team, there may a glimmer of hope that the Steelers can actually win at least one of their playoff games…
I disagree that it was a matter of a few plays…they sucked, period, Ben, Willie, Bruce Arians, Coach Tomlin and the defense, in that order…
I agree...
We didn’t play a good game, in fact, we played terribly. But that was my point. Even though we played a horrendous game, a few small differences and the game is likely ours. Trust me, I’m not defending Ben’s play, it was his worst in a long time. Had I been at home instead of a bar (damn holiday parade in San Antonio pre-empted my game!) something likely would have been broken because of the absolutely frustrating performance. The game reminded me of our other losses, particularly NY and Phily. We easily COULD have won, but kept killing ourself with penalties and turnovers. We’ll be fine, and I say that as a long time pessimist who almost always assumes the worst.
letdown
Anybody besides me willing to admit that this year’s team has a lot of holes? I still have high hopes and expectations for the postseason, but it just seems like something is missing. I’m not sure what that “something” is, but time is running out to figure it out. We squeaked out some close ones with our defense and, true, they say that defense wins championships. If only Ben and the offense could play like they did during that last drive in Baltimore a week ago. Maybe we should just play the no-huddle offense all the time – Ben seems to do better when he just reacts and lets it flow as opposed to over-thinking the game. I don’t know, just some thoughts.
I've noticed
A problem that we are consistently having is gaining positive yardage on consecutive running plays. Example, run for 8, run for -2, incomplete pass, punt. Another example, run hideous draw play, lose 5 or 6, obvious passing down, incomplete, incomplete (or stopped short on checkdown to 4th choice), punt. Just an observation…..
That something ...
is even using the fullback. We don’t miss Krieder since BA wouldn’t be using him anyway. We could be using Davis or McHugh int he I formation, but we jsut don’t.
Thinking
It just shows that he can’t think!
Brain issue?
Instincts would be better but not a ultimate success.
by Broadway Ben on Dec 22, 2008 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
Haiku for Beerman
Roethlisburger sucks
How many ways can I say it
Maybe a haiku
I’ve learned this week that #7 needs to be fired, willie parker sucks, and tomlin can’t coach.
Thank you to all of the new insightful posters that have come out of the woodwork.
I did so miss your opinions after our 11 wins. I’ll see you next year!

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