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Heath Miller on the toughness scale

I believe that Heath Miller is one of the toughest players on our offense.  Actually, I want to take it even further and say that he is one of the toughest in the league.  I think it's good that we have a tight end who can catch the ball and actually HOLD ON to it.  I don't think that all these passes from BB to Heath would exist if we didn't have have Heath but the likes of Kellen Winslow or whomever.  No matter how many mistakes our offense makes, I'm still proud to have the players we have.  They make up for it with their toughness.  Like I said in beerman's post ,that hit from Lewis Sanders left Sanders kneeling over like he was blasted by a torpedo or something.  I'm proud of Heath, he's a beast in his own right.  Sure, tight ends such as Antonio Gates or Tony Gonzales consistently get receptions and yards but I still wouldn't trade Heath for them.  He helps us out in those tight situations and I think that's enough for him to be recognized for.

Lol, yes, I am a huge fan of Heath's [ particularly because his birthday is the same day as mine ] as I am of Troy, hence the screen name =].  Anyways, this is my first ever fanpost, my apologies if I made any mistakes of any sort.  I don't want to get dissed as often as beerman does, no offence.

 

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Tough as nails

Heath Miller in another offense would be a star. Unfortunately for him he just does`t get enough passes thrown his way. I have always said we should use him a little more. Love his run blocking too.

by SteelerDomination on Dec 5, 2008 11:12 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe he would get more passes thrown his way if he could get open more often

Jason Witten is playing with a broken rib and caught 9 passes for over a hundred yards last game AND still gives it his all when he blocks. Heath is not even close to being on Witten’s level.

by quincyyyyy on Dec 5, 2008 11:24 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kudos to Witten

Wow, broken rib huh? Well, our defense doesn’t discriminate, they’ll destroy anybody in their path, we’ll see what “level” Witten’s on come sunday.

by paulamalu on Dec 5, 2008 11:48 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

quincy you are retarded

if witten didn’t play for dallas you would NEVER say he is better than miller. witten is a good receiver maybe even a little better than miller but he doesn’t clean clocks and ring bells like miller does and witten isn’t even CLOSE to being the blocker that miller is. as far as who is a better all around tight end heath miller has him hands down.

by beerman13 on Dec 6, 2008 12:45 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Witten is considered one of the best blocking TE's in the league

The first game after he broke his rib we kept him in the game exclusively as a blocking TE. You have no clue. Heath Miller is an above average TE; he is nothing special. Our backup rookie TE, Martellus Bennett, is probably better blocker and pass catcher than Miller already. If Heath Miller was on our team he would be a 3rd stringer.

by quincyyyyy on Dec 6, 2008 1:04 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

average?

the league wide consensus is that heath miller is the best blocking tight end in football. mike ditka who revolutionized the position of tight end agrees also. if the offensive system heath played in called for more passes he would have as many catches as witten does. there is no tight end in the nfl that could do better than heath miller on the pittsburgh steelers team. if heath miller were on the dallas cowboys he would be the first person that has a heart and has guts. because there is a HUGE shortage of guys with no heart on that team.

by beerman13 on Dec 6, 2008 1:29 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I said heath miller is an above average TE

but they are a dime a dozen. Witten has the potential to be a HOFer. You can’t compare.

by quincyyyyy on Dec 6, 2008 1:51 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HOFer!!!???

maybe if he didn’t hang out in mexico with jessica simpson and tony romo before a playoff game he might be. jason witten wouldn’t do half of what heath miller does if he were in pittsburgh and if miller was in dallas he could put up similar numbers. he would give the cowboys something they don’t have though: a guy with a super bowl ring.

by beerman13 on Dec 6, 2008 1:55 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

actually

You can compare and that is what we are doing. I think Witten is above average, and I think Heath Miller is slightly less talented and totatly underused.

by frankrmineo on Dec 6, 2008 6:24 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Miller is a pretty wimpy blocker

The matchup in the running game with him and Spaeth on Ware/Spencer? is a big one. I do think he’s a better pass catching TE than he gets credit for, but our OC only throws him the ball like once or twice a game. He has taken over games when given the chance. In the playoffs last year, him and Hines ravaged the Jags defense, but we’ll never know how good he can be until we get a new OC.

As much as quincyyyyy is a homer jerk, I think he’s right about Miller being above average but not great. There’s still nobody on the Cowboys defense that can cover him, though, not that our OC will exploit that or anything.

Witten has the benefit of having several deep threats that scare opponents into double coverage, so he’s probably not quite as good as his numbers, but I’m sure he’s a better receiver than Miller and probably a better blocker, too.

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by BadMaafala on Dec 6, 2008 8:06 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anthony Henry is probably going to be able to cover Miller

with Pac Man coming back.

And you guys are clueless. Witten has been putting up big numbers his whole career, and is a great blocker. He had 980 yards in ’04 with Vinny Testaverde throwing him the ball. Get a clue. Witten is going to be a perennial all-pro the rest of his career no doubt.

by quincyyyyy on Dec 6, 2008 9:48 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And you are are a ridiculous homer. For all the “perennial all pros” you have, you sure have a shortage of playoff wins.

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by BadMaafala on Dec 6, 2008 6:44 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I really don't care about playoff wins

I care about Super Bowl wins. I’m sure Seattle is not as pleased about their playoff wins as one would think.

by quincyyyyy on Dec 6, 2008 8:27 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think BM was referring to the last 10 years, but of course you knew that and are just conveniently ignoring it because you came up with a clever quip.

by steelguy99 on Dec 6, 2008 8:42 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I meant all of Seattle's playoff wins in the past 10 years

they have consistently gotten to the playoff and have won playoff games through most of the past decade, yet have not won a Super Bowl.

I’m more displeased about not winning a Superbowl in 13 years than about playoff wins. Those don’t mean anything in the long run.

by quincyyyyy on Dec 6, 2008 8:52 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Other than needing to actually win one to win the superbowl, they’re completely unimportant.

by steelguy99 on Dec 6, 2008 8:55 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and I’m looking forward to pacman getting burned all day, too. You’d be better off with Scandrick.

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by BadMaafala on Dec 6, 2008 6:48 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pac Man had 11 pass break ups, 5.1 ypa, and averaged a little over

4 tackles a game before he was suspended. This was after being out of football for a year. And he was improving with each game. So I don’t think he’ll get “burned all day”. Also, now that Pac Man is back we can put Anthony Henry on the TE’s on our dime and nickel defenses.

But you will see a lot of Scandrick though, so don’t be disappointed. He plays the slot in our nickel defense. Usually that is Newman’s job but since he has been so good at it he was given the job and Newman remains at LCB for the nickel. He was a 5th round pick and has turned into a steal.

by quincyyyyy on Dec 6, 2008 8:25 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pacman is not taking plays away from scandrick, he is coming in on sub

packages when they move henry in to cover the TE.

Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!

by cowboy78 on Dec 6, 2008 11:15 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Heath Miller is definitely more than above average.

Beerman actually makes some valid points. And quincyyyyy saying that Miller is a potential third stringer is complete BS. The only reason he isn’t a pro bowler is because as everyone else has said, he doesn’t get the ball thrown his way due to Hines Ward, Santonio Holmes, Nate Washington, and every now and then, Limas Sweed.

As for him not being a good blocker, that right there is a complete underestimate on his ability. I’ve heard numerous sports experts rave about how sound he is a blocker. I don’t think he’s the best blocking TE ever, but he can definitely get the job done.

An interesting note on his hands: Heath Miller has never fumbled a football in his career, knock on wood.

To the tune of the classic children's song "This Old Man" (the part with nick nack patty whack)

Big Snack, Silverback, take the Dawg Pound's Bone, the Black and Gold sent the Brownies crying home.

by HighSchoolSteeler on Dec 6, 2008 10:07 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

T.O., Patrick Crayton, Roy Williams and Terry Glenn when he was here

and Witten still puts up big numbers

The only reason he isn’t a pro bowler is because as everyone else has said, he doesn’t get the ball thrown his way due to Hines Ward, Santonio Holmes, Nate Washington, and every now and then, Limas Sweed.

by quincyyyyy on Dec 6, 2008 10:32 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Witten puts up big numbers because the Dallas offensive scheme relies on it. Out of the avg 33 passing attempts Dallas has Romo go for per game, there is plenty of room for Witten to get quite a few thrown his way; especially if it’s game planned. Plus, soft-handed TEs like Witten (not gonna lie, I’m a big fan of him and wish he was playing for someone else so that I could stand watching him more) are an easy target.

Conversely, Roethlisberger throws an average of 28 passes per game which isn’t too much of a difference; but since our OC seems to sometimes forget that Miller is on the team, he isn’t much factored into the offensive scheme. So while Heath is also an easy target, he suffers from having to constantly help out a weak Oline, having a QB that doesn’t much check down, and an OC who focuses attention elsewhere (latter two being pretty related).

However, I’m not sure if I’m seeing things or if this is true, but Miller might become more and more integral to our passing game as the Oline continues to improve. But we shall see.

Brandona

by PrimantisStillersNAt on Dec 6, 2008 1:19 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Too much competition

Ben is tossing more often because we’ve been missing our RBs

Ward is good for short passes up the middle. Ariens seems to like short yardage passes to Holmes on the outside (why, I have no idea). Moore is another strong target for passes over the O-line or just outside the pocket. So, Miller has quite a bit of competition for short-ball plays.

Miller has half as many receptions and half as many yards as Witten. (Miller’s avg per reception is 11.9, while Witten’s is 12.2.) Witten has 3 TDs in 12 games, while Miller has 2 in 10 games. We have no idea how much more effective Miller might be if he were a more frequent target, but what he does with limited receptions suggests that he is competitive.

by Varmint on Dec 6, 2008 4:02 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Both of TE have a 11-12 ypc average, we can agree we both have a very

good TE. In regards to our TE toughness, he only missed one game in his entire career so he could have three metal plates installed in his jaw (they are still there) so he could come right back the following week. Witten has been playing several weeks now with a broken rib and has not missed any games. I think that qualifies him as a pretty tough guy and it is a testament to the character of this team.

Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!

by cowboy78 on Dec 6, 2008 11:22 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh so this is the real excuse, ha
; but since our OC seems to sometimes forget that Miller is on the team, he isn’t much factored into the offensive scheme.

Yeah right. That is the stupidest reason I heard of. Any OC would get their TE the ball if he was able to. You are not smarter than any offensive coordinator in the NFL.

So while Heath is also an easy target, he suffers from having to constantly help out a weak Oline, having a QB that doesn’t much check down,

So you are saying he has to check down the ball to get the ball to Miller. Doesn’t that say something about Miller? Witten doesn’t need to catch check down passes to get the ball, Witten is a playmaker who makes big plays and doesn’t merely catch check down packages. You are crazy if you think Miller is on Witten’s level.

by quincyyyyy on Dec 6, 2008 5:34 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and you have no idea how bad our OC is, so don’t tell us why Miller isn’t used more, jackass.

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by BadMaafala on Dec 6, 2008 6:46 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+100000000000000000000

When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen

by 5020 on Dec 6, 2008 8:35 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can assure you that you are no more enlightened

even less so than your OC. That is why he coaches in the NFL and you don’t.

by quincyyyyy on Dec 6, 2008 8:37 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So every coordinator in the NFL is smarter than every fan of the NFL?

Just because someone does a job doesn’t mean there is no one else that knows they are doing it wrong.

You must live in some cool drug hazed land if you think that everyone that has a job has it because they are more qualified than everyone else.

by steelguy99 on Dec 6, 2008 8:47 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no

but he is more qualified than you

by quincyyyyy on Dec 6, 2008 8:49 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It’s good that you can say that with such authority knowing nothing about anyone on this board or our OC.

by steelguy99 on Dec 6, 2008 8:56 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There’s a difference between having ability and judging ability. Despite the fact that Brad Johnson is about a million times better than me at QB, I can safely say that he sucks as an NFL QB. I also couldn’t make Epic Movie 4, but as a fan of film, I can also safely say that that movie sucks.

I’m not saying I’d be a better OC than Arians, but I know enough to see that he is a terrible OC. Easily in the bottom 5 OC’s in the league.

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by BadMaafala on Dec 7, 2008 10:01 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey Q

Arians is vilified in Pittsburgh and not highly thought of by many (not all) knowledgeable fans, media types and team execs. Steelers are his 11th job.
You are entitled to your opinion that BA is a top OC in the NFL, I just don’t know what you base it on. Read this mornings Pittsburgh rag for more evidence of our lack of confidence in his abilities. I know you are here razzing Steelers fans but at least base your ramblings on something other than picking a fight.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08342/933392-66.stm

When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen

by 5020 on Dec 7, 2008 10:24 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I never said he is a top OC

he is just better than you. And I would trust his opinion more than yours.

by quincyyyyy on Dec 7, 2008 10:44 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fair Enough

but it seems like you are saying he is a top OC. Seems like you are not accepting our argument that Miller doesn’t get the ball much because the OC doesn’t use him. You are arguing with me & others for saying he is not a top NFL OC and now you are saying you are not saying that. You are free to disagree with me, a bunch of Steelers fans, Pittsburgh newspaper reporters and 10 other football organizations. That is your right. Just wish I knew what you were trying to say other than me and some of my crew here at BTSC are less knowledgeable football fans than you and BA.

If you see my post below you can see my opinion on Witten. It is same as yours. I just don’t agree with you that Miller is a 3rd stringer. I agree BA is a better OC than me and many on this page, but we are not being paid top dollar to be an NFL OC and he is. Hope to see you on this thread post game. Good luck today.

When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen

by 5020 on Dec 7, 2008 11:19 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Reread my posts

Here is exactly what I wrote:

“Any OC would get their TE the ball if he was able to. You are not smarter than any offensive coordinator in the NFL.”

“I can assure you that you are no more enlightened even less so than your OC. That is why he coaches in the NFL and you don’t.”

Where does it say I think he is a good OC?

I can promise you if Witten or Winslow was on your team they would get the ball more than Miller. Heath Miller is an above average TE, but he doesn’t get open enough to put up crazy stats like Witten, and if he did the ball would get thrown his way more.

by quincyyyyy on Dec 7, 2008 12:29 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know.

      When we had Eric Green for a short time, we used him!

by Jonny B. on Dec 6, 2008 2:16 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Correction!

It wasn’t Lewis Sanders that got owned but Pierre Woods.

by paulamalu on Dec 6, 2008 12:03 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

On offense that is.

by Jonny B. on Dec 6, 2008 2:02 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

True
I believe that Heath Miller is one of the toughest players on our offense.

by paulamalu on Dec 6, 2008 3:47 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed.

Tough as nails! Not arguing with that.

by Jonny B. on Dec 7, 2008 2:19 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's a lot like the Bus

  when u do finally tackle him, U are the one hurtin’.

by Jonny B. on Dec 7, 2008 2:22 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just wish we wouldn’t keep our “secret weapon” so secret.

by Jonny B. on Dec 7, 2008 2:28 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

but I don’t think that he is comparable to Kellen Winslow
He more of a Todd Heap

Nnamdi Asomugha for '09 Pro Bowl!!!!!!

by Jagjivan on Dec 23, 2008 3:51 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can’t wait till the cowboys game is over just so I don’t have to see quinnnnnnyyyyyyy’s annoying arse trolling EVERY POST.

by frankrmineo on Dec 6, 2008 6:22 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great First Post 43

Heath was the best TE on the board when drafted and we got him. IMO he is an above average catcher and blocker. I agree with 45 that he would have many more catches if he was part of the game plan. Don’t get me started on BA. 3rd string on the Cowboys? LOL. Maybe behind Witten but there is maybe only 2 NFC TE he would play behind and only a couple AFC TE 2.

Miller, like most Steeler draft picks and FA is also a good man. Great article in Post Gazette today stating that Heath has taken over the Faneca sponsered Pittsburgh charity “Glimmer Of Hope” that fights breast cancer. Miller and Faneca teamed up to raise 125K on 10/27/08. That gets my Pro Bowl vote…along with the many clutch catches.

Finally, lovin’ this Quincy character spending all his time over here. What a life this guy must have huh? Is he named for Cowboy great Quincy Carter? Witten is a superb TE who catches many passes in an O with many stars at receiver. Even voted for Witten for NFC Pro Bowl. Steelers D will need to account for him. HOF? Time will tell but to this trained eye, he’s no Ditka, Casper or even Gonzalez.

When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen

by 5020 on Dec 6, 2008 11:16 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks

Just thought I’d bring Heath into the spotlight for a bit.

by paulamalu on Dec 6, 2008 3:45 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

why is quincy here? and why is he posting irritating comments on a steelers board. its one thing to provide good insight or useful information and another to post rubbish.

the reason why witten gets so many yards is because they dont need him blocking on pass plays so often.

the steelers come out on bunch and two tight end sets with miller blocking on a lot of those for pass plays. Thus he doesnt get the opportunity to catch balls as much. When thrown to him he gets the ball almost all the time. Stop posting rubbish.

by surag238 on Dec 6, 2008 1:59 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is actually an easy comparison.

They’re really about even as receivers. Especially if you project Miller to have as many throws come his way as Witten does.

Witten would win out on yards, 709 to 688

That being the case, he would have a slight advantage of yrds/ctch 12.2 to 11.9

But since Witten has played two more games this year than Miller, Miller would atually come out on top in yrds/game 68.8 to 59.1

Miller would also have 1 more TD than Witten, 4 to 3.

by Tenser on Dec 6, 2008 7:47 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You can't just extrapolate like that

The reason that Witten gets so many passes thrown his way is because he is so good at getting separation and finding the soft spots in coverages. That is something Witten does on a consistent basis to a much greater extent than most TE’s in the league, including Miller. If Miller was as good as Witten in that regard I can assure you he would get more balls thrown his way.

It’s like saying, “Oh Devery Henderson has 23 ypc, so if you you extrapolate that to so and so catches then he is an all-pro.” No, it doesn’t work like that.

by quincyyyyy on Dec 6, 2008 8:35 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It’s interesting that he can’t extrapolate, but you can extrapolate everything about a player you have never watched based on their stats.

by steelguy99 on Dec 6, 2008 8:49 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You’d have to actually watch football to do that instead of touching yourself thinking of Romo.

by steelguy99 on Dec 6, 2008 8:57 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My thoughtages

Once again, I have a similar amount of words. Both of these teams are good. If they werent, we wouldnt care and this game would be a blowout.

Witten has good skills. He can get open, and he makes clutch plays. He is however, to an extent, amplified by the system.

TE’s numbers are decided SO MUCH by the system. Dallas loves to get the ball in the air and over to the TE position.

Pittsburgh, not as much. When you average passing (typically) is under 25 a game, your TE is lucky to have a pair of catches.

However, whats worth noting is Heath makes plays. Clutch ones. And hes pretty hard ass.

Not to take much away from JW, because he’s played injured.

I honestly think they are both almost on an equal plane, but Heath gets the edge cause he mows people over in the run game.

by Mechem on Dec 6, 2008 8:52 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Witten is a great blocker

he is considered by many to be the best all around TE in the game. In fact he was the starting TE on almost every all pro team in ’08.

Moreover Witten has been in two systems (Sean Payton and Jason Garrett) and has produced in both. In ’04 Witten had 980 yards with old man Testeverde throwing him the ball in a different system. So enough with your B.S. excuses.

by quincyyyyy on Dec 6, 2008 8:59 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's pointless

to argue who is better, Miller v. Witten, b/c it’s all an opinion anyway. Both are really good and obviously, as fans, who watch our team week in and week out, we become enotionally attached to our own players. Myself included. In fact, I made the point in my other post, I love Miller and I would not take any other TE over him…none…and I know Witten is real good, as well as other top end TE’s.

But I think more to the point, it isn’t just a question of who is better, but do they fit your team, the style of play, their personality. Example, Ben v. Romo. I have always liked Romo, I think he is a hell of a quarterback. I remember watching him a couple of years ago, thinking…wow that guy is fantastic…their isn’t anything he can’t do. But if you ask me, would I rather have BB or Romo I choose Ben…no question. Why? His personality, his physical stature, his style of play, his toughness…is Pittsburgh. Romo is Dallas.

So, you can keep arguing who is better…but I think the bigger contexted is how do they fit into their respective teams. Miller is a Steeler guy and Witten a Cowboy…

by SteelerMike on Dec 6, 2008 9:00 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I understand you can't extrapolate accurately

But there isn’t really an accurate way to compare the two straightforward. They’ll never face eachother.

Witten plays behind a better offensive line on a team that passes quite a bit more often. Often times he’s the thid checkdown in your offense.

Miller plays behind a less able (asked to block more) OL on a team that has a tendancy to run more than pass. He also plays in an offensive scheme that oftens uses him as the fourth or even fifth checkdown with a quarterback who usually doesn’t have time and dislikes to pick hot routes.

I am not claiming one is better than the other. What I am claiming is that if Witten and Miller switched teams, I believe they would switch stats as well. Understand?

by Tenser on Dec 6, 2008 9:43 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Believe it or not but Witten has been playing in the league longer than the past two year

Witten has played with worse QB’s, and much worse offensive lines (‘05 is still giving me nighmares) and has put up good numbers. You can make all the excuses you want, but Witten doesn’t make excuses he just produces.

by quincyyyyy on Dec 6, 2008 11:08 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So now you're just trolling...

How do you know Witten doesn’t make excuses? Are you a close friend of his?

The fact is, no one knows how Miller would function under a different offensive scheme. All I’m stating is its not really possible to compare the two accurately. You can play homer if you’d like but its not a path I’m willing to follow you down.

by Tenser on Dec 6, 2008 11:48 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We know how Witten performed with a washed up QB (Testerverde), a crappy

offensive line, and two offensive systems (Payton and Garrett). We also know how Miller performed with a decent o-line and a pretty good QB. Just saying, but go on making your excuses.

by quincyyyyy on Dec 7, 2008 12:10 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Stupid Argument

Any team would salivate at the chance of having Witten or Miller. Both are excellent TE’s, and are dangerous for their respective teams. Witten probably has the edge in being Romo’s go to guy. He’s key in their passing game, without him TO gets smothered.

by BallsofSteel on Dec 7, 2008 12:41 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hey quincaaaaaaaaayyyyy!

this one’s for you jerkoff!

don’t let the door his your ass on the way out!

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Dec 8, 2008 6:31 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thats a great pic

I love the wagging finger, its like almost as if he is pointing it right at Quincyyyy.

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