A Bold Statement Regarding the Steelers Running Game
Let me start off this post by saying that I am preparing for my inevidable crucifixion by Steeler fans across the nation, and I ask Steeler Country to go easy on me as I lay out the following bold statement.
Willie Parker is not the solution when it comes to the Steelers running game. I am sorry to have to say it, but it's been my opinion ever since he came into the league. With that said, I think it's a little unfair to judge Fast Willie Parker (FWP) based on his '08 stats, because he has missed some games due to injury. So I went back to his 2007 stats, when he had arguably his best year with team, nearly winning the NFL's rushing title before being injured in the game against the Rams.
In 2007, FWP finished with 1,316 yards on 321 carries; an average of 4.1 yards per carry. As you look back further into FWP's stats from '06, '05, and '04, you will notice that his yards per carry increased. The translation, and I really hate to say it, because I know there are a lot of die hard FWP fans out there, but Willie Parker does better when he is in a complementary back role. I think Willie Parker is a great player, and I think his yardage stats speak for themselves. But when it comes down to it, the Steelers are a hard nosed, grind it out, punch-you-in-the-face kind of football team, and in my opinion, that type of team needs a bruiser at running back, and at 5'10" and 209 pounds, FWP is as Jerome Bettis once said, "like a Ferrari...when you get a little dinged up, you come out of the game and the bus comes in."
Why do I feel this way? While FWP stats are amazing in terms of his yardage, I think yards-per-carry is more important. Willie Parker's vision is not the best. On several occasions against the Cowboys, FWP would hit the wall of offensive linemen when he could have easily cut back and hit the hole for a big gain.
So where does this leave us in terms of the solution. Two words...Brandon Jacobs. I understand that Jacobs just recently got injured, but hear me out on this one. Listed at 6'4" and 264 pounds, Jacobs has already rushed for over 1000 yards this season and 12 TD's. Last season when FWP almost won the rushing title, FWP only had 2 TD's. Simply put, I think that Jacobs has the body type to be a Steelers workhorse. He's rushing for an average of 5.1 yards-per-game, and I know its only a difference of about a yard, but with a 264 pound frame, Jacobs can literally run OVER defenders, not to mention wear them down. WIth regards to Jacobs' knee injury; the fact that he was able to walk off the field under his own power is huge. Additionally, I'm not looking for instant gratification. I know that a trade for Jacobs is possible a few years down the road, and I think the Steelers should really consider it if the idea should come across anyone's desk.
I really think that the Steelers could aquire Jacobs if they wanted to. I'm not sure when Jacobs' contract is up, but I think we've got some good value that we could trade for Jacobs. With all of that said, go easy on me Steelers fans, after all, it's just my opinion, and it's not like I'm in any position to do anything about it.
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Crucifixion begins
You are right about one thing: Willie needs a complimentary back. This is just a fact in the NFL nowadays: you need a two headed attack. We didn’t have that last year and FWP suffered from it. That doesn’t mean Willie isn’t a feature back. And the idea Steelers need a brusing running back is Steeler Country myth. Brandon Jacobs wouldn’t be very successful without a good run blocking fullback or a shoddy offensive line (which describes our situation). If you recall, Bettis had some great FBs in front of him like Kreider and John L. Williams. A big guy would be a welcome addition but we do not need one to supplant FWP.
by CarlWeathersMustache on Dec 8, 2008 10:45 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Think You Meant...
Jon Witman, not John L. He was gone after our Super Bowl year. And don’t forget about Tim Lester the Molester.
by Hines Ward on Dec 8, 2008 11:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Crucifixion Continues
I’d take FWP behind the NYG O-line over Jacobs behind the Steelers O-line every time. I think the difference between the two (YPC as you point out) has more to do with the players around them than you think. You can’t compare 08FWP to 07,06, and 05 without thinking about changes on the Steelers’ O-line either. With regards to a bruising back to compliment Parker, the Steelers think they got that in the draft this year with Mendenhall. . . don’t blame Parker for our #1 draft pick getting hurt.
Willie Parker is a pro bowl running back and, in my opinon, not to blame for the Steelers inability to run this year. Also, its not like the Steelers to sign a big name free agent and give up loads of $$.
by The IC Lion on Dec 8, 2008 11:07 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree with Carl 100%
“the idea Steelers need a bruising RB is a Steeler Country myth”…I completely agree and said so in a post 2 weeks ago. What we need is for the Oline to block better!! You could take Bettis from his prime and let him run behind this line, and when they are off and miss their blocks, as they have done, Bettis would be dropped for a 2-3 yard loss.
Forget Jacobs…we have quality RB’s to get the job done. We just need the OL to block better. Incidently, I found this stat very interesting…
how effective do you think Jacobs is in 3rd and 1 this season? Out of 9 attempts this season how times do you think he successfully converted?
Do you think, at 265 lbs, it is an automatic first down? 9 out of 9
Almost automatic, maybe he slipped once? 8 out of 9
Almost a sure thing? 7 out of 9
Suprisingly low for a big guy, 6 out of 9
No way, 5 out of 9
drum roll, please……………..Jacobs is 4 out of 9 this year on 3rd and 1………not very good.
By comparison, Dominic Rhodes…the "little’ guy for the colts is 5 out of 5 on 3rd and 1.
I know stats can sometimes be misleading but my point is, we don’t need him…we just need the OL to keep fighting and opening holes best they can.
by SteelerMike on Dec 8, 2008 11:29 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Agree somewhat with both sides
I do agree that Willie is probably more effective in a complimentary role. He was also pretty darn good as feature back, though. But, as far as the big bruising back, I’d like to see more of Gary Russell before paying for a high-priced free agent. Who didn’t want to see him keep running it after he gained 4 yards on the 3rd or 4th and 1 play? I’m pretty sure that was the drive we were stuffed on. I think he could very well be our grind it out running back, like McClain for the Ravens (if we’d use him right).
by WolfpackSteelersFan on Dec 8, 2008 11:43 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
yea
It’s too bad for Russel.
If he were in Michael Turners situation in SD a few years ago, or in Derek Ward ‘s position in New York this year, he’d be in great shape to set himself up for career and financial stability. Instead he’s just a guy really. And that all has to do with the line.
I too agree with the general theme of this post- FWP could be better if there was another legitimate threat getting substantial carries on a consistent basis. But I def agree that you can only make a chicken salad that tastes so good when you lack salt and have chicken from a farm somewhere in Afghanistan. Ya know?
I was just thinking this before I read this comment thread – the Steelers are two players away from being amazing and potentially huge favorites to win SBs in the next two years – two lineman away. You can put them where you want – at either tackle position, or one at tackle and one at G. We’re close. REAL close to being amazingly dominant. For now, we’re just uver competitive and tough.
by Blitzburgh on Dec 8, 2008 11:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Two Tackles?
If we had 2 stud OTs, that would probably make this a dominant OL. I think that our interior OL has been pretty good, certainly an upgrade over last year’s anyway.
by WolfpackSteelersFan on Dec 9, 2008 4:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Need an Oline and Full Back
That is the real problem. Either by scheme or personell, the Oline is not getting it done in the running game. Look at the flop that Kemo did against the Chargers and the Colts on 4th and goal. Look at the flop that Colon took last night with 4th and goal. I don’t care who the RB is, if you get contact behind the LOS, the running play is dead.
Also, the lack of a true full back, aka Dan Krieder, also limits the ability to run.
by vin2k on Dec 8, 2008 11:46 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
No need to jump-
Let’s see what Mendenhall can do first. We got to see him for about 2 seconds before Ray-ray took him out, and ya never know what our running stats would look like right now if he’d been back there this season. More/Better run-blocking and more Gary Russell on Third-and-short and we’re golden.
Let's Go!
by jacksteel on Dec 8, 2008 11:52 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
one more inch baby!
We got it at the last second this week. But we again need ONE MORE INCH this coming week!!!
I love it! This team’s ugly but awesome to follow. The fun’s really just begun this past month.
by Blitzburgh on Dec 8, 2008 3:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fullback Needed - Aplly Within
Makes a lot of sense. I think you’re asking a lot of an offensive line to stop everyone opposing them in the box and open a hole simultaneously. The fullback is the guy that polices up the “leakers” so the running back can be a hero.
by tenthmtnman on Dec 8, 2008 11:53 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Moore, Mendenhall and a Free Agent to be announced?
I commend your willingness to put yourself out there to be barbecued by the Steeler faithful. I think once Willie gets healthy, he’ll bounce right back. But I think here’s the issue that’s probably dancing in management’s head:
Willie’s salary is $4 million per year.
I’m suspecting that all that money might be needed to keep some of our other valuable players happy, like James Harrison who will no doubt be asking for more after this season.
I’m guessing — just guessing — that management will quietly dangle Parker as trade bait to a team desperate for a running back. Denver, perhaps? If no one bites, the Steelers will keep him, but don’t be surprised if he’s gone in 2009 and the team keeps Mewelde, experiments more with Mendenhall, and brings in a free agent.
There’s zero chance of getting Jacobs. The Giants would never let him go, and the Rooneys don’t like to spend big in free agency. We’re more likely to get someone like Deuce McAllister, who the Saints have apparently given up on. Edgerrin James will also likely be available, but he’s too arrogant to accept a back-up role. McGahee might also be cut loose, but I can’t imagine that the Ravens would let him come here.
by TURFgeek on Dec 8, 2008 12:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
hopefully those people asking for more money won’t ask for too much for us to pay because we need to keep this team together. We have the puzzle pieces for a DYNASTY, yes DYNASTY but we just need to find a few more namely, a great offensive line.
I know Willie doesn’t have great vision at times but hopefully it will improve as he gets more experience and film sessions. I saw those cutback lanes he had too that he missed but if we get Mendenhall back next year and he is as good as we hope then Willie’s stats will get better too. We pride ourselves in having great players who are not selfish and great team players not asking for too much money. Those players are not easy to come across as free agents so I think we give Willie some more time before we get rid of him.
by Bleed-Black&Gold on Dec 8, 2008 6:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
his vision
I think hes been off this year since he hasnt had a lot of playing time and practice.
Most years I’d say his vision is good, and hes good at making himself small to fit in the hole (lol). He does seem to have a nice handle on which way the plays going.
Problem is its hard to have good vision when you havent played 1/3’rd of the season.
by Mechem on Dec 8, 2008 6:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Right problem: wrong fix
As others have written before me, we need an O-line that can punch through a D-line before we need a new RB. Dear god do I miss Alan Faneca! He could dig holes like Mike Mulligan and Maryanne. Faneca was key to getting Parker sprung and a big reason for the stas in previous years. Without him, or someone like him, Parker doesn’t go up the middle so well. If we can get a guard with punching power, we’ll be looking at Parker’s back all season long.
Because of his height, Jacobs can be stood up and stopped. He is only a problem once he gets rolling. In order to get him rolling, you need an O-line that can create holes. Ergo, therefore, forasmuch, thence, and to that end… Jacobs is not the answer.
by Varmint on Dec 8, 2008 12:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
good reasoning on Jacobs
I think he’s overated. We stood his ass up. Pretty easily too. He’s also not that durable.
by Blitzburgh on Dec 8, 2008 3:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mental Game?
What about this argument?
It is possible that it can have a mental effect on the offensive linemen when you have a bust-or-break RB? It’s not out of the question. Let me elaborate…
When you have a Jerome Bettis as your starting RB, for example, as an offensive linemen, it would be simpler just to think “I need to make just ONE decent block, and Bettis will rumble for 5 yards easily.” 5 yards, by the way, it a total victory on any run. I would take a million 5 yard runs over a few big bursts. With a RB like Willie Parker, who can rip off a huge run at any moment and is ALWAYS looking for that big run, your job as an offensive linemen can be more difficult. Suddenly you feel like you need to do more with your block so that Willie can rip off a huge one.
My actual analysis: a guy with quick feet and the huge top speed can absolutely DESTROY every single team in the league if he is behind a stellar offensive line. This kind of line can give fantastic seals and are athletic enough to get downfield for blocks as well. Willie can make safeties and defensive backs miss and will generate a huge YPC average. A big guy with light feet (ala Jerome Bettis) makes it simpler for his linemen. Then don’t have to seal as well (Bettis could run right through hand tackles) and don’t need to get downfield as much or as well. It wouldn’t be as flashy, but the YPC of a scheme like that would be also decent.
I would look to the Titans as an example of both this year. Lendale White is averaging 4.0 YPC with Chris Johnson getting 4.9 YPC. The Titans, coincidentally, have a stellar offensive line. They can make the difficult blocks for Chris Johnson (he rips them off and his YPC is larger) and they create holes just big enough for Lendale White (and he averages a healthy grind-em-out 4.0).
by R.Clemente on Dec 8, 2008 12:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
fair thoughts for sure
Impossible to test and experiment with but I’m a big proponent of psychology being a huge part of this league.
I think though that that mental guidance regarding a team’s ‘identity’ has to come from the play caller – in our case Arians. He keeps everyone slightly off kilt it seems, despite some admittedly very positive drives.
by Blitzburgh on Dec 8, 2008 3:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jacobs
What in the world makes you think that the Giants are going to let Jacobs go, or that he would want to play in Pittsburgh? “I really think the Steelers could acquire Jacobs if they want to.” Where in the world are you basing that belief, other than blind hope?
Also for those who talk about Russell playing the role of bruising back ahead of Parker, let’s keep in mind, Russell isn’t really much bigger than Parker. FWP – 5’10" 209, Russell – 5’11 215. Mendenhall is biggest at 5’10" 224
by worldtrip on Dec 8, 2008 12:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I wish
I wish we had Jacobs from the day he came into the NFL. He probably is never going to leave NY so i don’t expect him to.
by Bleed-Black&Gold on Dec 8, 2008 6:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Watch next year
Next year we will do much better. With a full compliment of FWP, Mendy, and Waltzing Mewelde we are going to have a nice varied attack.
Also you have to ponder over the fact that basically BA is an idiot and doesnt know when to run the f’ing ball. He runs for no reason, forgets about guys when they get on a roll, and doesnt generally script GOOD runs with lead blocking.
Just think back to 05, we had DK lead blocking. Excellent year for FWP. We had 06 which was still a down year for the whole team, but FWP played well. In 07, the guy leads the league in rushing. Even this year, he came into the Pats game and rattled off great closing yardage.
Hes good, hes been off this year at times, but hes certainly capable of helping this team win another Championship.
And last I check he holds the record for longest run in a Super bowl
by Mechem on Dec 8, 2008 1:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Music To My Ears
“basically BA is an idiot” Truer words never spoken.
When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen
by 5020 on Dec 8, 2008 8:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Offensive Line
The reason why I pointed out FWP’s 07 stats was because our offensive line is crap this year and I know that already. Last year he averaged 4.1 ypc with an O-line that included Pro-Bowler Alan Faneca.
As for the Super Bowl record, alright, I’ll give you that, but again, I’m talking about Willie Parker’s YPC which is, in my opinion, low.
I do think that the Steelers could aquire Jacobs because Willie Parker has been heralded as being a premier back in this league. Once you start looking at Parker on a down by down basis and not on a highlight basis, I think anyone can see that his vision is lacking and more often times than not, even WITH an O-line, he gets stuffed.
I do agree with all of you on this point though. The Steelers need to get some rock solid lineman from the draft. I honestly wouldn’t mind if we used the majority of our picks on O-lineman.
Pain is certain, suffering is optional...
by SteveMeredith on Dec 8, 2008 1:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
the 07 Line
Was not the 05 line. Sure you had Faneca, Simmons and Smith, but RT was drastically changed for no reason to William Dirty Colon, and the center was pretty lousy.
Those right side runs were not the same with Colon in there, and up the middle was harder to do with Sean Mahan leading the way.
by Mechem on Dec 8, 2008 4:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think we need to see what our first round draft pick can do before we start making any rash desicions.
by frankrmineo on Dec 8, 2008 4:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Let's not forget about our #1 pick
I believe his name is Rashard Mendenhall. Sure, he didn’t contribute much this year, becuase of his rude welcome to the NFL by Ray Lewis. Sure, he had 3 fumbles in preseason, but I would like to believe the FO and Tomlin saw something in the Kid to make him #1.
One of his upsides when we drafted him was that he came with low mileage. He started only his last season of college. Well, he still has the same low mileage. I look at it like we just kept him in the garage this season. Next season, we will in essence have two #1 picks when he comes back healthy and strong.
by Jonny B. on Dec 8, 2008 4:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
true
nice optimistic way to look at it. He made zero contributions to our so far solid year. We’ll be adding lots of impact players next year, and then stocking up like usual for the future. Man, we could be amazing for quite some time if we catch a few breaks and make a couple wise decisions, whatever those may be. But we are CLOSE to being SET for quite some time.
by Blitzburgh on Dec 8, 2008 4:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We need to shore up both lines and thats about it. The D line is playing great but stil not getting any younger, and the O-line is a must issue in the draft / free agency during the off season. Other than that, the future is bright.
by Jonny B. on Dec 8, 2008 4:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not knowing makes it tough
Somebody mentioned earlier about trading Willie. I am a FWP fan, but it would make sense if we knew Mendenhall was even a serviceable NFL caliber back. We already know Mewelde is starter material or close and he is relatively young. But since we have no idea what we have in our first rounder, we cannot trade a Pro Bowl, Super Bowl stud RB. Especially when you consider that you do not get equal return value in draft picks when trading in the NFL.
Really, all of our backs have low mileage. You made the Mendenhall point, but FWP never started in college even though he had a TON of carries last year. And Mewelde was not starting in Minnesota, either.
by CarlWeathersMustache on Dec 8, 2008 5:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
EXACTLY!
Thanks for laying it down real.
You never dish out a guy without having a good replacement in the ranks. And that is probably the only mistake I think we made with Faneca. I think we should have F Tagged him because we simply werent ready to give him up.
You should really have a guy sitting back there waiting. Examples…
Joseph Peezwald, Released, and look who came in behind him. Success.
Clark Crunk Haggans, Released, and look who came in. Success
Chris Hope, Released and replaced, things have gone well.
Bad examples
Plaxico, Although this was a GOOD release, we had nobody right away and Cedrick Wilson didnt do much to help.
Faneca, as mentioned
by Mechem on Dec 8, 2008 5:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I dont think our running woes
are directly a result of personnel, but rather our lack of a true bruising fullback. Having a smaller running back sitting 7 yards deep without a bruising fullback to leadblock is bad news when said running back’s got a mediocre O-line paving the way.
I’m not gonna even get on our pop warner offensive coordinator, but ever since we stopped using a true fullback, our running game has gone in the toilet and our backs have been getting banged!
by Steeler Ric on Dec 8, 2008 6:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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