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How Often Does A Top Ten Pick Become A Pro Bowl Player?

We've talked for a month or so now about how much of an inexact science the NFL Draft is and how hard it is for scouts to project the success or failure of college prospects. With that in mind, I went back and looked at ten years of draft history looking specifically at the first ten picks each year. I chose the top ten because these guys should end up, in theory, being the most productive player at the next level plus the fact that analyzing the entire first round or some other sample size would take considerably more time.

For the sake of simplicity I chose the bar of success as having been to a single Pro Bowl. I know that's not a perfect system but for the most part it's fair to every player and removes any chance for bias on my part. I also started with the 2004 draft, so that every player has had at least four seasons to establish themselves. So before you read on, imagine that you're a GM with a top 10 pick in any given year. What percentage do you think you have a picking a guy who will play in at least one Pro Bowl?

First some raw stats on the first ten picks from 1995 through 2004 (100 total picks):

 
Positions Most Frequently Drafted: WR with 18; QB & DE tied with 14; CB with 11; and RB & OT tied with 10

Colleges Most Heavily Represented: Florida State with 7; Miami, Ohio State, Penn State, and Texas each had 6 picks

Teams With Most Top 10 Picks: Cincinnati, Baltimore and Arizona each had 7 top ten picks in the past ten years and Baltimore had two top tens in 2000

Players yet to reach a single Pro Bowl: 49 of 100

Players who have played in one Pro Bow:  17

Players who have played in more than one Pro-Bowl:  34

Obviously there are some guys included in the 49 who will make a Pro Bowl sometime in their career. Guys like Plaxico and Eli come to mind, but there are plenty of guys who made a Pro Bowl whose careers can hardly be called a success (David Boston and Koren Robinson). As the years unfold though in the future, I would imagine that the trend would remain relatively the same. I originally thought after looking at the data that it would be reasonable to assume that the older the draft, the more players from that draft would get at least a single Pro Bowl. Much to my surprise though, two of the worst years for players yet to be selected were in 1995 and in 1998 (each year had 6 players). The 2002 top ten has been the worst so far with seven players yet to reach Pro Bowl status, while the best draft has been the infamous 1999 draft that included Tim Couch and Akili Smith. In total only 3 players failed to reach a PB.

As far as the Steelers are concerned, they've only picked in the top ten once during this time period, selecting Plaxico Burress. He is no doubt a quality receiver but he's yet to make a Pro Bowl during his eight year career despite topping 1,000 yards 4 times and snagging double digit touchdowns twice. The Steelers picks over these ten years have averaged aroud the 20th overall and they have selected just four players that made the Pro Bowl so far in their career. The list of non-PB players includes Kendall Simmons, Plax, Troy Edwards, Chad Scott, Jamain Stephens, and Mark Bruener.  

All in all, if NFL scouts and coaches can't pick a quality player in a top 10 pick how are we supposed to have any idea? Well that's the beauty of the draft. April 28th you can expect to hear every single team say something along the lines of 'we got exactly who we wanted' or 'we filled many important needs' and my personal favorite 'we got the guys who will ensure the sucess of this franchise for years to come.' The truth is though only time will tell.

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I guessed 50% :)
Now I'll finish reading the analysis. :)

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Apr 14, 2008 3:50 PM EDT   0 recs

Not a bad guess there sir
For some reason going into this I was thinking it would be higher for a top ten.

by cgolden on Apr 14, 2008 4:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You would think
but it seems like for every Peyton Manning, there's a Ryan Leaf. In that draft, they just happened to be picked 1 and 2.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Apr 14, 2008 4:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

great work
as always Golden.  just reminds us how fortunate we are to have a solid front office that does a decent enough job in the draft, and that you can't get them all right.

by TheMostViolentTeam on Apr 14, 2008 6:02 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

For a second, I wanted to say Ben
but then I remembered he was picked at number 11. I guess that's the closest we've come to a top ten pick.

Interesting analysis. I enjoyed reading it.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Apr 14, 2008 3:56 PM EDT   0 recs

Parcells always said the draft
was a 50/50 proposition and this proves it. You hit on 50% of your picks, you're drafting well.

by Terry on Apr 14, 2008 4:13 PM EDT   0 recs

Yeah
And, then you get the Tom Bradys and Marques Colstons who are late round picks nobody really expected to do so well.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Apr 14, 2008 4:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I wonder if the percentage is skewed
Because bad teams usually pick in the top 10. And a bad team might be bad because the gm is poor at evaluating talent.
Or the coach is incompetent or the other group of players are below average.
A good player on a weak team might either improve on a great team, or have other playmakers around him that make him standout for the pro bowl selection process.

by vherub on Apr 14, 2008 4:52 PM EDT   0 recs

yup
Good thoughts. there's a reason teams are constantly picking in the top 10, and it's not some inherent geographical reason or anything else. It's because of who's in charge. There's no reason the Browns or Bengals or Cardinals should be so bad for so long. It's ineptitude starting at the top.

Good thoughts vherub. And I'd also add that it's harder to make pro bowls playing on lousy teams.

by Blitzburgh on Apr 14, 2008 4:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Good points
I would add one further thought to that. Because of the way top 10 rookie salaries are structured, bad teams' big money contracts have become tied up in unproven players, while the better teams have their big money contracts in players that are in their second contracts and have proven that they are worth money. If you have to pay $30M guaranteed to a guy who flops, you're screwed for the next three years.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Apr 14, 2008 5:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hmm
Which brings up the point, that if you still have the figures handy golden, could you do the last 10 players drafted in the 1st round and see if that percentage is higher?  Could it be that these teams, being run better with higher win counts would end up drafting "better players" even though they're at the end of the round?

by Chicago Steeler on Apr 14, 2008 5:46 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ask and ye shall recieve
I looked back at the entire first round to try and tell if picks 11-30ish had a better chance at reaching PB status and here's what I found that more often than not the percentage dropped.

In total there were 311 first round picks between 1995 and 2004 and only 116 of those players have been to a PB (roughly 37%).

Heres to breakdown of Pro Bowlers (Top 10/Rest of 1st round):

  1. 6/7
  2. 5/5
  3. 3/6
  4. 5/10
  5. 5/7
  6. 7/5
  7. 4/5
  8. 6/4
  9. 6/8
  10. 4/8

by cgolden on Apr 15, 2008 9:47 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

ridiculous
that QB is the 2nd highest # position drafted, since there is only one player from that position on the field (as opposed to 5 OL, or 2-3 WR's, etc).  just shows how infatuated everyone (including GMs) is with getting a QB, and just taking one even if they probably won't be good, to appease their fans.  Easterbrook of TMQ on ESPN annually points out how it's equally ludicrous that there are more QBs in the Hall of Fame then offensive linemen, by a significant number.  Sure, Brady, Manning, and Big Ben are all elite QBs and won Super Bowls.  But the teams they were on had something else in common, a great OL (05 the Steelers line was excellent).  Teams that won with "lesser" QBs like Eli Manning and Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, had solid offensive lines and great defenses.  Point is, it's a team game, the QB points the direction of the team, like a ship's navigator, while the offensive and defensive lines are the sails that take the ship where they need to go.

by TheMostViolentTeam on Apr 14, 2008 6:01 PM EDT   0 recs

I'm not sure...
Actually, I think it makes perfect sense.  There is only one starting QB per team in college, so there are fewer successful ones available in the draft (and lots of teams that need them).  Also, since the QB touches the ball on every offensive play, he's much more responsible for the success of a given play than an offensive lineman, in general.

There's a reason why successful QBs get so much money in long-term deals (think of Big Ben).  The problem is really that top QBs are really such a crapshoot -- a guy who's an exceptional safety in college will probably be pretty good in the pros.  A great QB in college is more likely to completely flop.  On the other hand, when they don't flop, they're usually great.

My biggest issue with anyone signed in the first round is the kind of guaranteed money they end up getting.  I'd like to see some sort of cap on that (with the savings available to sign veteran players, so the NFLPA would be on board with it).

I agree with your point that it's a team game, but I'm not surprised that GMs spend more attention and money on the most visible player on the field.

by zacharai on Apr 14, 2008 6:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

have no problem with them
spending more attention and money, but the fact that  a higher # are drafted doesn't make sense.  since GMs should know that QB is the hardest spot to play, shouldn't they also know that it is less likely there is a more than one (if any) absolute studs at that position every year available in the draft?

by TheMostViolentTeam on Apr 14, 2008 6:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Most GMs that are on the hot seat
are drafting from fear, I think. That would be why they reach on a QB in the first round, when a solid OL or DL player would make better sense. Also, it's like a great center in the NBA. They are so rare that teams will gamble on potential, just as they will for a QB.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Apr 14, 2008 7:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Interesting point MVT
Here is the breakdown of the QB's taken over that time:

14 QB's

  • 7 haven't played in a PB (E. Manning, Leftwich, Carr, Harrington, Couch, Akili Smith & Leaf)
  • 2 played in 1 PB (Rivers & Kerry Collins)
  • 5 played in more than 1 PB (Palmer, Vick, McNabb, P. Manning & McNair)

by cgolden on Apr 15, 2008 7:47 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

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