Chad Johnson

by LiveinDCbutsteelerfanbyheart on Apr 21, 2008 10:13 AM EDT Comment 17 comments

I know we do not have much money or willing to trade anyone for this head case. But i want to see how many of you out there would take a chance on someone like a Chad Johnson who is a head case? Before you make up your mind chew on this really quick. Both Owens and Moss have been head cases in the past but changed big time under new coaching and Management. We generally get rid of players like them (plex), rather than dealing with them. But do you think a Tomlin could make someone like a C. Johnson a team player?

also here C. Johnsons stats hes no number 2 teir WR hes among the Best of the Best.

In 7 seasons hes racked up 8365 yards with 49 TD
in the past 6 hes been over the 1000 yard mark every year. blazing speed as well as always playing never injured. started all 16 games in the past 6 years. NOw what you think

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by BadMaafala on Apr 21, 2008 10:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Agreed.

by HinesField on Apr 21, 2008 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

No

Hell No

by smashmouthsteel on Apr 21, 2008 10:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

No

I wouldn't even consider it for two reasons:

This franchise doesn't have a history of taking on guys with 'questionable' characters, they have a history of letting them walk. Ocho Cinco is QUESTIONABLE in every sense of the term. We've seen him 'give up' in games (just ask Anthony Smith) and we've watched him put himself before the team. In no way, shape, or form would he make it as a Steeler. Can anyone imagine him and Hines getting along?
Who moves to a non-starting role? Holmes needs to be on the field every single play and as much as I like Ward, I don't think he'd except an back-up role (especially if he's backing up Johnson). Not to mention that Ward would be the most expensive backup WR in the history of the NFL (over 7 million in 08 and over 8 million in 09). And if you think that Chad's coming to Pittsburgh to be the #3 receiver, then I've got some ocean front property to sell you in the DFW area.

While it's awesome to sit back and think about how dynamic it would be with Holmes, Ward and Ocho Cinco all on the field at the same time, it just wouldn't work. Also the common thread with Moss and Owens was that they both went to their current teams for less than market value. I don't think Ocho Stinko is looking for anything less that what he thinks he's worth.

by cgolden on Apr 21, 2008 10:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

No to Johnson or Owens

I hated Johnson ever since he said on Jim Rome after the 2005 playoffs that he thought he would win the Super Bowl if Palmer didn't get injured. He is a head case. His antics are not funny, they are stupid and aren't needed. Same with Owens.

Moss is different, he is an unbelievable talent. One of the best ever. He just wanted to be on a good team. I would take him but no to Johnson or Owens. He isn't cocky like the other two. Not too mention Moss is ten times better than the other two. Moss single handedly made the pats 16-0 last year. Owens and Johnson can't do that. Moss needs double covered every single play or he will beat you, sometimes even tripled.

Thats all.

by jason97673 on Apr 21, 2008 11:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i dunno

I'd take a look if we could have him for a 4th rounder. The way I see it is Johnson's antics and demanding behavior will only be viewed as acceptable if he's able to shut up and play in his new home. Same with Moss. These guys want to be remembered as some of the best. Johnson has to know that there's no way he's mentioned in the same breath as TO and Moss unless he does remarkable things for the rest of his career in a new market, provided he gets dealt.

I'd love to see Hines, Johnson and Santonio, plus Heath and FWP as weapons. Hines would keep his mouth in check.

That might be heresy from me, but if we could get him for .30 cents on the dollar, I don't know why we wouldnt even consider it.

by Blitzburgh on Apr 21, 2008 11:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

yeah i agree

as the old saying goes "one mans trash, another's treasure". who ever gets Johnson will vastly improve.

* till next time wave those towels proud

by LiveinDCbutsteelerfanbyheart on Apr 21, 2008 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

dont get me wrong

It wont ever happen and obviously the Steelers are so successful because they have a blueprint for how to run their organization and they stick to it.

Just from a purely business standpoint, I don't think you can overlook any transaction where you get a commodity for pennies on the dollar.

by Blitzburgh on Apr 21, 2008 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

4th rounder

If he could be had for a fourth rounder, I'd be interested (but I'd also guess about 30 other teams would be). It's assumed that it'll take a #1 to get him. Being in the Dallas area, I've heard countless rumors that the Boys could send one of thier #1's to either Cincy, Detriot, or Arizona for a WR (Ocho, R Williams or Boldin respectively). At that rate, I wouldn't even pick up the phone if I saw the Bungles calling.

by cgolden on Apr 21, 2008 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

This is probably gonna be laughed at

but if I had my own franchise I totally would. To me, Johnson isn't the basketcase that TO and Randy Moss are; to the contrary, I believe he brings a bit of a swagger with him that boosts the team, at least morale wise. And he has fun when he plays, which really shows in the celebrations he had. Lastly, he wants to win-bad. I can't stress that one enough.

Paying him "his share" and winning would be all it would take to 'keep him in line' so to speak, and I think he'd be a great addition to any franchise that could provide him those things.

Let me close by saying I HATE those players who only think of themselves and throw little hissy fits over the stupid stuff-Randy Moss and To come to mind, as does Roidney Harrison, among others.

by Romain El 82 on Apr 21, 2008 3:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

There are always

A few different perspectives or point of views you could look at, and thats a good one so I wont laugh at you. But to me Johnson is a cancer. Moss is a much better person then Johnson. Moss acted like a baby on the Raiders cause the team was the worst in the NFL.

How would you like running deep patterns as fast as you can only to turn around and see your QB sacked, or the ball going the other way? If I was in his position Id only play some of the time too. His "mooning" thing also was blown out of proportion in Minnesota.

The celebrations I think are stupid. Johnson just wants attention. You can have fun like Ward does by getting popped in the mouth and get up and laugh at the guy who did it. That is fun. Yes I know Ward has done some celebrations, but those were mainly mocking Owens and Johnson I believe.

Saying if Palmer didn't get injured they would of won the Super Bowl is something I don't want on the team. Not too mention his head is not always in the game. 4th down, catches the ball before the 1st down marker and goes out of bounds on his own?

by jason97673 on Apr 21, 2008 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Speaking ofthe Crazy Bengals

Thurman just got reinstated.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3357445

by BadMaafala on Apr 21, 2008 5:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

wow

Bengals are dead set on keeping him it sounds like. They turned down an offer from the Redskins for this years 1st rounder and a conditional pick next year that could turn into a 1st rounder.

Gotta say, sometimes you've gotta cut the dead weight, but apparently they think they can make Chad play, and play well enough to keep around.

by Chicago Steeler on Apr 22, 2008 4:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

heard that

Yet another reason why that franchise is doomed for failure. It must be miserable to be a Bengals fan.

I mean come on who on our current roster would you not trade two first round picks? Ben is the only one that I could say absolutely not. I can't think of another guy who is worth more than two first rounders.

by cgolden on Apr 22, 2008 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

kobe

where would the lakers be if they had acquiesced to Kobe Bryants 'demands' this summer?

by Blitzburgh on Apr 22, 2008 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

no cj, ever

I would still not say that Moss and TO have become upstanding citizens. Both have been tempered by winning circumstances and there is certainly a chance they could blow up if the teams start losing.
And honestly, I hate rooting for guys who shovel discontent on their franchise or need special motivation to play football. Nor do I think the Steelers need him.

by vherub on Apr 23, 2008 10:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

spoken perfectly

Why would we need a guy who has to be on a winning team to play hard? Since when has that become the standard? Talent doesn’t mean squat if the player doesn’t have the heart to go with it. Moss is great, but what if his team starts losing? TO, Chad, Moss – they are all alike, can’t take it when the team is not winning. No no no no no no to CJ.

by steelerark on Apr 23, 2008 5:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs