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How Did Steelers AFC North Rivals Fare This Weekend: Cincinnati Bengals

Here are the Bengals 2008 NFL Draft selections. Overall pick number in parenthesis.

The Picks:

USC LB Keith Rivers (9)

Coast Carolina WR Jerome Simpson (46)

Auburn DT Pat Sims (77)

Florida WR Andre Caldwell (97)

Kansas T Anthony Collins (112)

Fresno St. Defensive Tackle Jason Shirley (145)

App. State S Corey Lynch (177)

Villanova TE Matt Sherry (207)

University of Cincinnati OLB Angelo Craig (244)

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Thoughts on the picks:

Let's start with Rivers. Definitely a solid pick-up for the Bengals in Round 1. They immediately get an upgrade in the competititve department on defense. Rivers is always around the ball, loves playing, and has been spoiled by success while at USC. I'd imagine that he brings some of that passion and familiarity with dominance to a depressing Cincy defense.

In Round 2, the Bengals select a WR that not many of us could possibily know anything about. The Bengals must like something they saw on tape though, as they do have a fairly solid track record in acquiring WR talent this decade. If the Bengals do in fact expect Chad Johnson to be bluffing and in camp this summer, I can't say I love the pick. But if they think he's not bluffing and is on his way out this year or next, then it makes more sense to acquire more pass-catching options for Carson Palmer right now.

I like the pickup of Pat Sims here by the Bengals. I wouldn't have minded if we had traded up to get Sims or Harrison out of Arkansas here early in Round 3. The Begnals hope Sims can help patch up a porous run defense for years to come.

A University of Florida WR? Aren't they all about the same, from Ike Hilliard to Reche Caldwell? The Bengals are banking on Andre Caldwell to be a better pro. A bit strange to see another WR selected here, with all the problems Cincy has had on defense in pervious years.

The Bengals select a project T here in Anthony Collins. Cincinnati fans are convinced by scouting reports of his potential worth. I'll go with that for now and say a solid Day 2 selection.

I know nothing about Shirley, Lynch, Sherry, or Craig. It's unlikely any will make a significant impact any time soon, so let's save our breath for now.

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Overall Assesment:

I can't honestly say I have much insight about too many of these guys, but I think it's clear that the Bengals neither hit a grand slam HR nor swung and miss entirely. I definitely don't see too many difference makers in this group, at least in the sense of them being able to help push Cincy over the top in the AFC North in the next two years. If that's the case, the window for Carson Palmer should be even smaller.

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typical Cincy

Rivers is a good pick and he’ll probably hit the field very early (maybe day 1) and I like the Sims pick and Corey Lynch (whom we touted some). Collins seems like a decent pick as well. They’ll likely all contribute in some form or fashion. Simpson seems like a hell of a reach considering who was still on the board. The real head-scratcher is DT Jason Shirley. Not only did they reach for him but he has some serious character questions:

Was suspended for the first two games of 2007 for conduct detrimental to the team…Was suspended again in October ‘07 after he crashed his car into an apartment building and left the scene while driving drunk…Was allowed back on the team after just four weeks but was ultimately dismissed once and for all after being cited for driving with a suspended license….Still has some legal issues to resolve….
Talk about a typical Bengal.

by cgolden on Apr 28, 2008 12:06 PM EDT   0 recs

Shirley

cgolden, you beat me to it. I was going to say that I heard about him on Cowherd’s show earlier today. Cowherd brought it up to highlight Cincy’s arrest issues over that last couple of years. Basically, he said, they were going after their type of player. It is unbelievable.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Apr 28, 2008 12:17 PM EDT   0 recs

yea

I figured someone else heard that so I was in a rush to get it up. What are they thinking in Cincy?

by cgolden on Apr 28, 2008 12:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

RE:

Many teams have had players arrested since our last. And we dumped Henry like Cedric Wilson. So it’s not Bengals specific. It’s just the NFL, anymore and exclusivity isn’t just the Bengals.

Blogger at CincyJungle.com

by Kirkendall on Apr 28, 2008 2:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

According to Cowherd

10 arrests in 14 months. You dumped Henry after, what, his third arrest? Or, was it his 4th?

So, now you draft a guy who was suspended twice last year before ultimately being kicked off his team. It may be widespread in the NFL, but the Bengals have had more players arrested more times than any other team that I know of. Also, this pick fails the two main tests that I can think of:

1. Were there serious character issues before drafting/signing? Yes.
2. Was it long enough ago to believe that he’s cleaned up his act? No.

It just wasn’t a good PR move on their part. You would think they would avoid any possible character issue, since there is a perception of character issues on this team, whether it’s worse in reality or not.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Apr 28, 2008 3:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

also was going to add on shirley

dui, hit-and-run, driving with suspended license; twice suspended by his team, eventually dismissed from the team

can play, but huge off field issues and alcohol problems are not what cincy needs

also, both wideouts taken cite chad as their idol/role model

by vherub on Apr 28, 2008 12:19 PM EDT   0 recs

Same old Bungals

They got a great QB with Palmer, and now they’re wasting his career on thugs.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Apr 28, 2008 12:41 PM EDT   0 recs

I meant to add

Once Palmer’s gone, they may go another 15 years without a winning season.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Apr 28, 2008 12:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

My hope

is that twice a year that the Bengals get to see that it was a bad idea to pass on Sweed as he goes off on them and Simpson gets shut down. That would give me a lot of happiness.

by Vers on Apr 28, 2008 9:41 PM EDT   0 recs

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