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Big Ben Backtracks A Bit Over Draft Selections

Remember when Ben Roethlisberger asked for a tall wide receiver earlier this offseason? Remember how Hines wasn't too pleased with the request? Well, judging from quotes made yesterday, Ben Roethlisberger might have rubbed some people the wrong way with his initial requests, and in my estimation, didn't do a great job in his follow-up comments.

 When asked whether he was excited to get to work this weekend with his new tall WR, Limas Sweed, Ben said:  

"I'm anxious, but I've got my guys out there,'' Roethlisberger said, referring to Hines Ward, Santonio Holmes, Nate Washington, Willie Reid and Dallas Baker. "I've got my receivers that I've had, that I've been working with. Limas will probably have to work his way in. For the first day or so, I probably won't throw too many passes to him unless they work him up with the first group."

And about the addition of Rashard Mendenhall to the running game?

"There was some talk a little bit about trying to get a pound-it guy (at running back). We've got guys. It's not like we don't have running backs," Roethlisberger said. "Same thing with the wide receiver. We've got guys, so there's no real rush to push anybody into the starting spot. If they develop into it, I guess they develop into it."

What about the selection of Dennis Dixon at QB:

"I'm glad we finally got a quarterback to hopefully lead us to some victories," Roethlisberger said with a smile. "I enjoyed watching him at Oregon. I thought he was great. They want him to learn from Charlie (Batch) and I and see what happens."

Finally, Roethlisberger commented on the new offensive line, a subject he commendably has been consistent about (i.e. he's 100% supportive of them no matter how many times they allow defenders to blow by them and sack the QB):

"I think our offensive line is going to be a lot better than people think," Roethlisberger said. "I've seen them at the (organized team activities) and practice, and they're doing a great job. Guys are going to step in and guys are going to fill shoes. "

My thoughts on Big Ben's quotes? Well, they're just media quotes, and it's hard to take anything said to the press too positively or too negatively. But, I got to say, Mr. Roethlisberger still has some room for growth as a leader in my opinion. At least in terms of knowing what to say, and when. If you read the article, you'll also notice that Ben mentioned that he didn't believe his plea for a tall WR had any impact on the organization's decision to select Sweed. Well, if that's the case, then why sound off in the first place? In other words, unless you think your voice will be heard and resonate with the front office, why say anything at all?

Then, after rubbing the uber-competitive Hines Ward in the wrong way, don't act totally disinterested about our new additions in an attempt to make up for it. He has a point when he says that our rookies are going to need to work their way into the mix and that we've got a slew of established offensive weapons already without them. But, why do you need to say I don't plan on throwing Limas the ball in mini-camp? What's the point?

Ben Roethlisberger is still a young man. Just 26 years old. I know I myself have plenty of room for growth in terms of knowing when and what to say, and Ben is no different, nor should he be. We're all subjected to the same growing pains in life, even those of us who sign $100+ million dollar contracts.

Who knows, maybe Ben is simply trying to motivate our rookies, much like Alan Faneca did with him when he said he wasn't all that excited to have Roethlisberger behind center during his rookie year when Tommy Maddox got injured. But in my opinion, that should be left to Mike Tomlin. Furthermore, have some faith in the organization that just paid you an embarassment of riches to select players that will be hungry and interested in competing from Day 1.

I believe in Ben Roethlisberger as a championship caliber quarterback. I sometimes wonder though, if he has that special 'it' quality when it comes to motivating people and leading grown men.  He's shown signs in the past, but to me, this was an instance of him demonstrating he's not quite there yet.

As Tomlin says, 'it's a process.' I just hope he's moving forward, not stuck in neutral, as a leader, particularly off the field.

Discuss.

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I agree

Those quotes seem a bit contradictory, like he is trying to make up for what he said earlier about the tall WR. However I still believe he is a great leader on the field. Off the field, maybe just a bit more work.

The one about Dixon sounds like he is being cocky because he knows “he can lead us to some victories”.

But hey its better then “The better team didn’t win again” that the Bengals organization used to always say.

by jason97673 on May 1, 2008 3:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ben's comments

I don’t have a major problem with what Ben said, but it does seem that he has not been taught how to handle those types of questions. What I mean is, it seems like no-one in the organization has apparently thought to sit down with him and coach him or prepare him for those types of questions. He is asked a question, and he just says the first thing that pops into his mind, not thinking through the possible ramifications. One would think that the FO would have discussed the “tall receiver” comments with him and just let him know that the media will take whatever angle they like, so you must be more careful with what you say.

These recent answers just seem like exactly what you said Blitz, that he felt bad about irritating Hines, and so now he’s kind of overcompensating with to let the veterans know he still likes them. He’d have been better off just saying that these things will be worked out based on the upcoming camps, and he’s looking forward to doing all he can to help the team win (coach-speak).

I think he’ll be fine, but I do wonder how much advice and direction he’s getting from the organization on how to handle the media.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on May 1, 2008 3:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

im sure he's been given the spiel from the organization

I think it’s just something that either comes naturally or doesn’t. I’m not trying to make a big deal out of this, these are minor quotes and I’m reading waaay between the lines. But what the hey, that’s what we do.

I remember somebody saying on here that Ben isn’t the most well liked guy in the locker room. Have no idea if there’s any truth to that, but as I get more and more evidence, Ben just seems like the kind of guy that people either really love or just don’t like that much. I don’t think that matters too much, so long as he prepares well and competes hard and wins, but it’s a bit of a concern to me.

by Michael Bean (Blitz) on May 1, 2008 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He has shown some hard-headedness

Riding a motorcycle without a helmet for example. So, maybe he’s been told, but just hasn’t taken that spiel as seriously as he should.

Like you said, it’s not that big a deal, but does seem somewhat immature. I’m just thinking of the kind of coachspeak you hear from a Tom Brady. I’m sure that comes from his coach.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on May 1, 2008 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I also

Personally think every story the media makes is overblown. All I really care about is that he is a great QB and gives us a chance to win every week.

by jason97673 on May 1, 2008 3:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well

The media wasn’t really taking the stance I am. They’re not really ‘allowed’ to do that as print journalists..just report. That’s why I like our medium, we have more room for speculation.

Agreed about your general point, but I’m not sure it applies here. I kinda made the inferences in this instance, right or wrong.

by Michael Bean (Blitz) on May 1, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In this case

the media doesn’t seem to be making anything about it, but the whole Hines flap about tall receivers was started by Ben saying that, and then a reporter hitting up Hines for a comment. I doubt the reporter filled Hines in on all of the context, he was just looking for a story.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on May 1, 2008 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I kinda liked how Ben handled things

I think his comments reflect three issues with drafted players. First, these guys have been courted and sucked up to an absolutely disgusting degree. Message; courtship over, get in the kitchen and do those dishes (metaphorically speaking). They haven’t proved they can deliver anything at this level yet. They are rookies. There will be plenty of compliments to go around after the final cut in September, assuming they are still around. Two; loyalty to current teammates. Lets remember that Willie Reid, Sam Baker, Gary Russell and Davenport aren’t doing cartwheels because Sweed and Mendenhall are in town. Third; this is a playoff team and fairly recently a world championship team. They’ve done all right without these saviors leading them to the promised land.

I also think that Ben’s comments about not throwing to Sneed was misinterpreted. Ben will be throwing to the first unit guys. That’s Santonio, Hines, Heath (Nate in the three receiver set). Batch or someone else will be throwing to the new guys until they learn the system and demonstrate that they can challenge the starters. Ben was being factual, not snippy.

by RickVa on May 1, 2008 3:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

fair enough

Good points. I think that was his intention, but to me the delivery’s just off with him. It’s semantics really and I am just speculating from afar.

Totally agree with you that that’s what the message is. But how come you are able to say it so succintly in a few sentences and he kinda stumbles through it. I don’t know, just an afternoon’s discussion.

by Michael Bean (Blitz) on May 1, 2008 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ben

Nothing in that article really rubbed me the wrong way, other than maybe the Dixon comment. Ben said something stupid like, “yeah, it would be sweet to have a tall WR” and talked out of his ass trying to justify why being tall is much of an asset to a WR, then the media blew it out of proportion, Ben and Hines made up, every mock draft had the Steelers taking a “tall WR” because “Ben demanded it” and unfortunately a “tall WR” fell into our laps in the second round. I think Ben’s right. If he doesn’t make that comment, we still draft Sweed. I think he’s standing up for his teamates, some of whom won’t make the team, and saying that the new guys have to pay their dues. I give him some credit for that.

by BadMaafala on May 1, 2008 3:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Too easy...
“I think our offensive line is going to be a lot better than people think,” Roethlisberger said.

That’s not exactly a high standard, given the level of speculation about the quality of the Steelers O-Line.

by HinesField on May 1, 2008 4:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

True

but he did say “a lot better”, not just better. :) We sure hope he’s right.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on May 1, 2008 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually one thing I cant stand is how Ben gives his OLine so much credit. I think Ben actually needs to get on his OL and tell them to actually block someone for him. I mean he gives his line credit but not his WR’s, his backs or his defense for helping out. But why does he think the Line is so good?

I mean it is different if you have a great line like the Colts and Peyton coming out and saying we had some line problems. Thats just one time. But I think if Ben actually calls out his OL, they would play better. The line might not even be concerned with how bad they are only because Ben thinks they are very good. Most people might not like him doing this, and will get overblown in the media, but I am positive it will make the line better.

by jason97673 on May 1, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sometimes that approach works ...

But I don’t think Ben needs to show the world that he’s pissed at the line. A little rivalry and hurt egos can go a long way toward motivating them. To the public though, I see no reason to ever bad mouth your team. It just leads to problems.

by BallsofSteel on May 1, 2008 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ben being Ben

I think Ben’s comments are from someone who isn’t trying to ruffle some sensitive feathers. If he wasn’t that liked in the locker room to begin with, he has $100 million more reasons to hate on him now. I’m not too worried about what Ben says as long as he stays off motorcycles and produces in between the white lines.

You get one of these (a QB like Ben) every 20 years, so let’s enjoy the next 8 to 10 and not get to carried away with been trying to be politically correct.

by datruth4life on May 1, 2008 4:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

agreed

Not trying to make too big a deal here. I write 365 days a year. There’s gonna be some not-so-essential-in-the-grand-scheme-of-things type posts. I’m no drama queen, was just sharing my thoughts on this. Good to hear what y’all think.

by Michael Bean (Blitz) on May 1, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Have No Problem Whatsoever with Ben

First, I think the tall receiver thing was a harmless comment that the media hyperbolized to the max. Of course Ben wants a tall receiver and no one should have been surprised or insulted, including Hines. Ed Bouchette ran all the way to Georgia to throw that comment in Hines’ face and of course, he defended himself and his size. That whole thing seemed much more of a media sensation than anything substantive between Ben and Hines.

Regarding Ben’s comments toward rookies, what he said was simply a right of passage. I am sure he remembers the same thing in reverse when Alan Faneca questioned “going into battle with a rookie.” If you recall, Ben handled that situation beautifully by actually agreeing with the veteran and understanding that you only earn your way into respect on the playing field, not by some high draft choice. Ben then quietly went out and earned Faneca’s and everybody else’s respect.

His comments now about rookies are the same lesson he learned. His message is that none of those guys has earned anything at this point, not a carry, not a pass. I hope Sweed and Mendenhall get that message, work their rear ends off, and appreciate Ben’s leadership in making that clear much the same way Ben heeded Faneca’s leadership four years ago.

Moreover, Ben’s rookie message served a dual purpose. He also displayed confidence in the current players, which is showing added leadership.

I think Ben has said everything right for four years now on both sides of the fence. His continued support of the offensive line last year when every media member under the sun was trying to bait him was exemplary. That high road will serve him and all of us well in 2008.

by maryrose on May 1, 2008 4:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

for people who know Ben

they know he’s a very cocky and arrogant guy who rubs people the wrong way so those comments don’t surprise me at all.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on May 1, 2008 4:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of cocky

Philip Rivers is cocky. Wanna talk about a guy who is supposed to be a leader? Two examples of this were him waving “Bye bye” to Jay Cutler as the Broncos were eliminated from the playoffs I believe. Then during the Indy game, he walks of the field early when the game is still in doubt, and trash talks with the Indy fans. Im glad we dont have a QB like that.

by jason97673 on May 1, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I should add

When Philips walked off the field early, it was because of injury obviously

by jason97673 on May 1, 2008 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

in Ben's defense

that is said about ALOT of great QB’s (and NFL stars in general) behind close doors. Brady, Montana, Favre, all of them have those whispers about them. Also, how is it being cocky or arrogant? People are quick to call players cocky and arrogant these days when the players simply believe they are one of the best. Well when that is TRUE (ben is one of the best QBs), then that’s not being cocky--brash maybe if he verbalizes it, which he doesn’t. People call T.O. cocky, again, wrong, he’s one of the best receivers ever, cocky implies you talk like you are good, but aren’t good. He is extremely brash, and loud-mouthed, which is where problems have arisen on the teams he has been on. The media in general needs to get off this whole cocky thing, they love to call athletes arrogant and cocky. Most the time, the athlete is just simply good, and probably has worked most his/her life at being really good, so yah, it’s going to be part of your personality. People have a hard time understanding this, I get that, however, it just takes a different mindset to be truly outstanding like that. And alot of the time, it requires an extremely high amount of self-confidence, or some other mental ability that isn’t clearly stated in literature. Researchers have found that the difference between the “average” pro sports athlete and the “elite” pro sports athletes, is simply mental. To make it to the highest levels in any endeavor requires a extremely high belief in yourself-to the point that you tell yourself no matter what, you can win the game for you team, or do something to lead your team to victory. The really great ones think every time they step on the field/court they are going to DOMINATE the opposition. That’s not being cocky, you have to have that mindset to be great. Sorry for the rant. I didn’t find Ben’s comments disturbing at all. The thing about not throwing to Sweed was because he won’t be with the first team, and the thing about Dixon he was just messing around a little bit. I thought he said all the right things. His job as a leader is to help motivate the team. You have to push the rookies a little bit.

by TheMostViolentTeam on May 1, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I always see this line thrown about by the same group that call him a game manager and challenged that he could never carry a game passing over 30 times, and that the system masks his flaws.

In fact I remember hearing about how cocky he was after he went ahead and got his face smashed on some poor ladies windshield. What an asshole!!!

In all honesty I’ve heard that he could be somewhat of an ass in college. I’ve never heard about that on the NFL level, nor have I really seen it in any of his press coverage.

But if the question were cocky asshole or guy who takes a vacation in the middle of the playoffs, well, that’s not too tough is it?

by BallsofSteel on May 1, 2008 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Better question

Cocky asshole or p-whipped asshole.

by RickVa on May 2, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

comment about sweed

I think he was just saying that Sweed was not going to start out low on the depth chart so he would probably be running with the second or third team which means Batch or Dixon or whoever will be throwing to him while Ben is throwing to Hines, Santonio, etc

by schnifin on May 1, 2008 6:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yea

Just thought he could have been smoother with his words. Maybe something like, “I’m looking forward to working with him, so hopefully he impresses with the second unit and works his way into the mix sooner rather than later. We’ve got tons of weapons already, so if he develops and works harder and lives up to all this potential, we should be even more dangerous.”

But again, just semantics and not really a big deal.

As I said, I think his intention was to motivate the rooks. But you can’t just motivate poeple with haphazard words. It takes the right kind of leadership to push peopls buttons the right way. I think Faneca did it brilliantly with Ben. I hope Ben’s tactics work out similarly.

by Michael Bean (Blitz) on May 1, 2008 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Big Ben talks to fast

I think we should cut him! Or D Squared might flat beat him out.

Tony - Stillers Fan in Raleigh

by Tshaff on May 1, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

haha

I think people are taking my stance somehwere where I didnt intend for it to go. I simply found it interesting that Ben acted so disinterested by our recent additions. I think if you had asked him a month ago what a Mendenhall and a Sweed might mean to the franchise and helping take it toanother level, he would have said something different and less dismissive.

How about this:

I HEART BEN ROETHLISBERGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Michael Bean (Blitz) on May 1, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I HEART BLITZBURGH ;)

Tony - Stillers Fan in Raleigh

by Tshaff on May 1, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

:)

Needed that Tony! I feel better now.

I actually had made a comment to somebody earlier that I was afraid the new platform had turned off several of the readers and usualy commentors here. Guess this somewhat controversial post proved otherwise so even though I’m not too pleased with the way I made my points in it, glad to know y’all are all still here waiting to set me straight when necessary :)

by Michael Bean (Blitz) on May 1, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The redesign is actually so awesome I find myself commenting a lot more. You guys have been really cranking out the content too.

F5 … F5 … F5 … F5 …..

by BallsofSteel on May 1, 2008 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes

You are one guy who I’ve noticed around more. Pleased about that. Glad you like the redesign. It defiinitely blows the old one out of the water, just takes some time getting used to it.

by Michael Bean (Blitz) on May 1, 2008 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't f5

use z to cycle through unread comments. its pretty nifty

by schnifin on May 1, 2008 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blitz, Great Story Piece

About Ben, obviously. Just look at all the different posts and perspectives. I don’t think you were misconstrued. I think you were accurate in your assessment. Ben is not a wordsmith. That too is obvious. He tries to be funny at times and it comes out awkward. He just isn’t as polished in the speech department as he is in the scramble-out-of-trouble department. Fortunately, we are paying him for the latter and not the former.

I think all the differing opinions, including mine, reflect the degree to which Ben’s interview style bugs us or not. I’m really not bugged at all by Ben but it is more than fair if others wince when he talks sometimes. That’s what makes us all different. Mind you, none of us is making any kind of deal out of this, including the original post. We’re all just weighing in. This board is an interesting social dynamic in addition to being a site about the steelers.

by maryrose on May 2, 2008 9:12 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yea good point

I don’t need to be sensitive. Thanks for the reminder.

by Michael Bean (Blitz) on May 2, 2008 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting article of quotes

The draft always has to be a little tough for a team because alot of those guys are your family, and people you liked or were used to playing with will be gone.
It certainly reads like Ben could have been more diplomatic, but it’s May and I would have had to be there listening to get the full intent.

We have all certainly read comments from Favre or McNabb ripping their organization for drafting a qb on the first day- and those guys should be “mature” enough.

by vherub on May 2, 2008 11:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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