Behind the Steel Curtain: An SB Nation Community

Navigation: Jump to content areas:



Sports blogs for fans, by fans.
New Blog: Backing the Pack for NC State Fans!


Tomlin Gives Polamalu Permission To Miss OTAs, Train In So. Cal

Troy Polamalu, who has missed significant time the past two years battling injuries, has been granted permission by Mike Tomlin and the Steelers organization to workout in Los Angeles rather than joining the team in Pittsburgh as it resumes offseason team activities tomorrow.

Polamalu is recovering from offseason knee surgery, and wouldn't be able to participate in any football related drills anyway.  Instead, he'll spend time rehabbing with trainer Marv Marinovich at his Sports Lab in Orange County, Calif. Tomlin is just fine with that:

It probably works for him because he's sold on it, and that's part of it," Tomlin said this week. "The reality is he's recovering from an injury, he's unable to participate in organized team activities, so it provides an opportunity for him to do what he feels good about.

So who is this Marinovich guy? Well, does the name Todd Marinovich ring a bell? As in the guy who is widely considered one of the biggest NFL Draft busts of all time? Marv is Todd's father.

While doing some research on him, I stumbled across this article about the family , written in 1990 in the New York Times. Amongst other things, the article highlights how Marinovich, a team-captain on the undefeated 1962 national championship winning USC team, began his career in sports medicine and training.

From the time he was a young athlete, Marv Marinovich had searched for answers to questions about how the body works.

''I can remember asking my dad: 'What can I do to improve my performance? What would be the plan?' ''

His career became an endless search. He studied the biomechanics of running, metabolism, and nutrition at a time when many football coaches clung to the belief that water breaks were harmful to an athlete's sense of purpose.

He researched philosophies of athletic development in Eastern Europe. He investigated the concepts of visualization and mental rehearsal.

Interesting stuff. Clearly Marinovich has had varying degrees of success with his understudies over the years. Many years ago, ESPN.com named him one 'Sports' Most Harmful Relatives' as a result of his tenure working with son Todd. On the other hand, his techniques have received critical acclaim across the globe.

Chet Furhman, the Steelers strength and conditioning coach during the Bill Cowher era, also signed off on Polamalu's regiment when he was employed by the organization:

We started off with him trying out what we did, but then went back to what he wanted to do," said Fuhrman. "I just felt if that's what he wanted and, in his mind, that's what's best for him, let him do what's best for him.

The premise behind Marinovich's program seems to be deemphasizing the importance of strenuous weight-lifting, and instead focusing on working muscle fibers less stressfully in rapid-fire conditions. According to Marinovich, Polamalu had been incorporating some of his techniques into his workout plans even before they started working together. Only Troy wasn't aware of it. Anyway, if we can take him for his word, the two should be working hard this next month and a half or so to get Polamalu back into form:

I've never been around an athlete like Troy in all my years. In all aspects, it's fun for me just to be around him.

So, best of luck Troy in sunny Southern California. May your work put in out there lead you back to the dominance us fans grew to love and expect just a few short years ago. And while we're at it, good work Mr. Tomlin in your decision to be flexible. I speak for all Steelers fans, I believe, when I say that I love our chances exponentially more if Polamalu stays healthy and performs in 2008 like he did in 2004 and 2005.

0 recs | Comment 12 comments

Story-email Email Printer Print

Comments

Display:

Troy

I’ve been torn on the idea of letting some players work out away from the team for a while. I understand that Troy’s not 100% and he can’t do much anyways and I understand that he’s a star player who isn’t going to learn much from standing on the sidelines watching practice. But I’ve always worried about the precedence that it sets for other players.

I wonder if Timmons is sitting there asking himself why he had to stay around the team while he was hurt last year. I wonder what Tomlin would say if a guy like Tyrone Carter was in the same situation. I wonder what other players who are there working think about the situation (I’m probably overthinking the entire thing but oh well it’s May, this is what we do).

by cgolden on May 19, 2008 3:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Jimmy Johnson approach

I can definitely see what you’re talking about, but on the other hand, I think most players and coaches understand that you treat people differently based on their current importance to the team. Right or wrong. It reminds me of Jimmy Johnson saying something like, “I treat everybody exactly alike, I treat them all differently.” He meant that Emmitt Smith could get away with being 5 minutes late to meeting while an undrafted rookie FA would be cut on the spot. The reason was that: 1) he was already a very hard worker, and 2) he was the star RB on their team.

The other issue here is that Troy is doing this because he believes it will make him better for the team when the season rolls around. It’s not like the story that you hear about U of Miami players going back the U to workout instead of working out with their NFL teams. Of course, Troy is going to southern CA, but he is doing it in a belief that it will reduce his likelihood of injury. The Miami players just do it to show support for their former school.

I would say that if this works for Troy, the Steelers should incorporate it into their conditioning programs. It’s always good to improve durability and reduce the risk of injury.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on May 19, 2008 4:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Troy ask permission?

One other point is that it sounds like Troy discussed it with the coaches first and got permission. If he did with good reasons, that’s more of a reason to let him do it than if one of the other players just says, “Hey, he’s doing it. Why can’t I?”

by WolfpackSteelersFan on May 19, 2008 4:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lots of thoughts

while I wasn’t an exercise science major or anything i’ve been exposed to many different forms of working out and feel can weigh in pretty well. first off all though, during the upcoming workouts for the Steelers this weekend, Troy would’ve just been standing around, since he isn’t cleared for football activities yet. and to touch on something Tomlin said, Troy thinks this stuff works for him, so that alone does help to make it work for him. I know people like to dismiss it because everyone wants to believe there is some workout method that is simply better, but in all reality, the mind controls the body, and if you believe something is working, it partly will work. Like the placebo effect.

As far as workout methods, Marinovich does have a very good point when he is talking about how weight lifting teaches the muscles to move a large amount of weight, yes, but they do it slowly. While this is beneficial and will also make the muscles more explosive when they need to move something fast (like throwing a block on someone, or jamming a receiver at the line), it certainly is better if you actually just practice doing it at that speed. So doing lifting and exercises where you practice explosive movements, with lighter resistance. I’ll use the example of vertical leap. There are all kinds of things HS football coaches do, like squats and calf raises that might help vertical leap a little bit. But the best thing is to just actually stand there and jump as high as you can over and over. Devices like those Jump shoes and what not-while they will accelerate the increases a little bit-are mostly helpful because they exercises they have you do focus on just running fast and jumping high. From what I’ve read of Marinovich’s training it looks pretty good. Nowadays there is alot of sharing in the exercise community for methods so I’m sure the Steelers staff know exactly what Troy is doing and is OK with it. From what I’ve read of what the Steelers do they do alot more “newer” methods as well and have always had some of the best strength & condition staffs in the league, partly owing to their utilization of the UPMC staff in alot of what they do.

by TheMostViolentTeam on May 19, 2008 4:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

steelers training

i wonder what “newer methods” they employ in training. Also, if this training works so well for troy, makes one wonder how it would do for others.

by tkired on May 19, 2008 10:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Marinovich

Living in Orange County California, I’ve heard the buzz about Marinovich’s training regimen. I don’t know all of the particulars, but I do know that many up and coming high school/college atheletes are involved in his program. From what I hear, he’s great at improving the physical measurables that an athlete needs to improve their draft and/or recruitment status.

On the other hand, he’s not a sports psychologist and has had some personal failures with his own son who some say he pushed way too hard at an early age. Todd Marinovich’s failures are well documented and most people remember his short and tumultuous career in the NFL. Unfortunately for Todd, his life is still not on track. As recently as a few months ago he was arrested for possession of heroin after a short foot pursuit with officers. It’s a sad personal legacy left behind by a father whose professional accomplishments are many.

So the bottom line…the guy knows his stuff and hopefully his training regimen will help Troy to avoid the injury bug that plagued him most of last year. Although based on the way Troy plays the game, I’m guessing that most of his injuries are impact related and part of the price you pay for playing a “collision” sport, so I’m not holding my breath.

by Steev1705 on May 20, 2008 12:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Trainer vs Father

You hear so many stories of Great athletes’ children being messed up. Dr. J’s kids, Dungy’s son, Andy Reid’s kids, etc. The amount of time these guys put into their careers must make it near impossible to be good parents, kind of sad, eh?

by tkired on May 20, 2008 1:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, but....

In this instance the story appears to be different. Marinovich Sr. allegedly spent every waking moment tutoring and grooming his kid for the NFL. From what I’ve heard over the years Todd didn’t have much of a childhood away from football and most of his failures cropped up from a need to rebel against his father. I have no personal knowledge of how much of that is fact and how much is fiction but it’s a sad story either way.

Nonetheless, you make a good point. It can be difficult for chldren who endure a life with alot of money /perks and very little fatherly supervision. I guess that’s the downside of fame and glory.

by Steev1705 on May 20, 2008 6:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Comments

Lots of interesting ones here. A couple of reactions.

Troy: Troy is a very unconventional guy and very up front about it. Not flaky, just not out of the conventional mold of the professional football player. He has been extremely successful and it would be foolish to try to deny him some leeway for the sake of being ‘fair’. Troy has had a couple of subpar years due to injury. If hanging out in California will help keep him on the field this year in top form then I nor anyone in the Steeler organization should have a problem with it.

Todd Marinovich: One of the most difficult coaching challenges I’ve ever had was coaching my own daughter. I wouldn’t assume that it is a lack of supervision that leads to these failures. Imagine the pressure on the child of a professional sports superstar. How do you manage the public’s, not to mention your own, expectations to in some way measure up to the achievements of your parent. Not to mention all the conflicts and ambiquities that are contained in a father/child relationship. My daughter was so rebellious that the only way I could coach her was to have my assistant coaches present my instructions as if it was their ideas. And ours was a “normal” relationship. If I were a superstar’s child I might be tempted to go off the deep end too.

by RickVa on May 20, 2008 6:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

interesting

Thanks for sharing that. Are you a basketball coach by trade, or just for kicks? Because I do remember you sharing on the site that your daughter played college hoops. Pretty great accomplishment! and I’m sure she loved it. No need to share if you’d rather not.

I think for all the bad press overbearing parents receive, probably most do a reasonably solid job maintaing a reasonable balance and relationship. Just my guess though.

I have faith in Marinovich to work well with Troy, but I gotta say, he does seem a bit out there and I can easily see how he might have made some mistakes in handling his son correctly at a young age.

by Blitzburgh on May 20, 2008 6:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Parents as coaches

Thanks to RickVa and Steev1705 for clarifying this for me. My examples were different from parents who coach their own children. I have only a little experience with this, my dad briefly coaching me in bball. Did not go well. I think parents are inclined to have VERY high expectations for their kids, and can push them too much, esp. as coaches. some respond to this, however. Pistol Pete was a Great player, coach’s son and all. Yet, some argue had he had different coaching other than his father, he would have been more of a team player.

by tkired on May 20, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Marv Marinovich

No one can judge Mr. Marinovich where his son is concerned unless you were there and know the family. One thing is for sure- Marv Marinovich was way ahead of his time when it comes to training. Thousands of parents now try to get the same kind of training that Marv provided for his son 30 years ago. Did he make mistakes with his son?...Probably yes…who as a parent, especially the parent of an exceptionally gifted athlete hasn’t? But one thing is certain…he did not cause his son’s addiction problems. Addiction is a disease and it doesn’t play favorites. The Marinovich family should be treated with just as much empathy as any family that has to deal with the tragedy of addiction. Marv has devoted his life to the helping young athletes and interestingly enough, Todd works alongside of his dad, coaching young quarterbacks.

by ironmom on Jun 2, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Welcome to BTSC, a blog dedicated to the SIX-time world champion Steelers.

"Thoughtful discussion with a sense of history."

Art Rooney Jr.

"Level-headed thinking." Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Start posting about the Steelers »

Join SB Nation and dive into communities focused on all your favorite teams.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recommended FanPosts

Pc290207_small
Top 5 NFL Players I'd like to punch in the face
Small
Six time the charm
P4070003_small
Signature Moments / The Top 8 of 2008-09 For The Pittsburgh Steelers

Recent FanPosts

Small
The Early Years: Pitt Stadium Days
Small
I Just Befriended Troy Polamalu on Facebook!
Small
Heckling
Small
Rooting For Injuries
2163310289_196904cec9_small
Steve McNair found shot to death
Horns_small
A poll...
Small
53 man roster
Horns_small
Troy Polamalu
A546203962b8877l_small
My Pittsburgh Steelers 2008-2009 Tribute Video

Post_icon New FanPost All FanPosts Carrot-mini

SPONSORS


Site Founder & Editor

Mbean_small Blitzburgh

Steelers Historian

Steeler_small maryrose

Bringing You Your Daily Six Pack

Plainview_small drinkyourmilkshake

Official Partner of Yahoo! Sports