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I can't WAIT to read the post on this....http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AjJ5qVYBKWVM60nuqyFJO95DubYF?slug=sixnflteamsunlikelytomak&prov=tsn&type=lgns

 

 

In the first part of a three-part series, Mike Florio identifies six teams that aren’t likely to return to the playoffs this season after making it in 2007:

Of the 12 teams that qualify for the playoffs each year, roughly six of them don’t make it back the following season. Last year, for example, the Ravens, Chiefs, Jets, Bears, Saints and Eagles didn’t get back to the postseason after making it in 2006. (Taking their places were the Steelers, Jaguars, Titans, Redskins, Packers and Buccaneers.)

So the challenge for those of us who pretend we know more about how a given NFL season will turn out than the average fan is to try to identify the half-dozen teams from the 2007 postseason field that won’t return, and the half-dozen teams that will replace them.

And because the challenge for those of us who have to come up with two columns per week as part of a side gig with SportingNews.com includes doing so during the slow weeks of the NFL calendar, this idea has the makings of a trilogy.

In the first installment, I’ll try to nail down the six playoff teams that won’t get back to the postseason. Later in the week, I’ll predict (guess) six that won’t take their places. Finally, I’ll take a stab at identifying the six that will.

Without further ado, my six picks not to return to the playoffs.

1. Pittsburgh Steelers The Steelers of the free-agency era have developed a trend of exceeding low expectations and failing to meet high ones. In 2006, the Super Bowl champs didn’t make it back to play in January. A year ago, with no one expecting much from a team breaking in only its third head coach in nearly 40 years, the Steelers won the division.

This year, expectations are high again—especially with the Bengals imploding, the Ravens rebuilding, and the Browns generally regarded as overrated. In other words, the stage is set for the Steelers to fail.

If they do, it will happen because of an offensive line that got much worse after the departure of left guard Alan Faneca. Although the team used its first two draft picks on high-profile skill-position players (Rashard Mendenhall and Limas Sweed), these rookies won’t make much of an impact with no one to block for them. The defensive line received no real upgrade despite the team’s desire to do so, and the linebackers and defensive backs are getting older but not necessarily better.

In all, six of 11 starters on defense will be 30 or older by the end of September. That’s not a good sign for a team that will need strong performances from the traditional strength of the franchise to prop up an offense that might not score points in bunches.

2. Tennessee Titans The Titans are the most likely ‘07 playoff team not to get back to the postseason. They snuck in last year because of, in part, a decision by Colts coach Tony Dungy not to contest to the wire a Week 17 game against the Titans that allowed them to secure a berth. And Tennessee has not done much to improve, despite having plenty of money to spend in free agency.

Quarterback Vince Young regressed just enough in his second season to get offensive coordinator Norm Chow fired. The move drew instant comparisons to the previous situation with Falcons quarterback Michael Vick, whose flaws as a passer were masked some by the franchise’s efforts to identify a continual string of scapegoats.

Although Mike Heimerdinger brings a new offense to Tennessee, Young hasn’t gotten much help on the field. At least having Vick’s former favorite target, Alge Crumpler, around will be helpful, especially because the receiving corps is mediocre and no effort was made to improve it.

In an ultra-competitive AFC South, with a high-quality Colts squad, an ascending Jaguars franchise and an improving Texans team, one of the four teams has to land in the basement.

And that team very well could be the Titans.

3. Washington Redskins The Redskins rallied late in ‘07, coming together as a cohesive unit after the tragic death of safety Sean Taylor. They unexpectedly qualified for the playoffs, sneaking in as the sixth seed and nearly shocking the Seahawks in the wild-card round.

But then came the unexpected retirement of coach Joe Gibbs, followed by the curious decision to hire Seattle quarterbacks coach Jim Zorn as the offensive coordinator, and then to promote him to head coach. Zorn very well might become a great head coach, but it’s a tall order to expect him to navigate a competitive NFC East and get back to the postseason.

The Redskins would have been wise to give the gig to defensive coordinator Gregg Williams, who is now with the Jaguars. In a league where continuity means more than ever before, making the next coach a guy with whom the players were familiar would have been the best way to get a roster that hasn’t seen much offseason overhaul (for a change) back into the playoffs.

4. Green Bay Packers The departure of quarterback Brett Favre creates a huge void at the most important position on the field. If the Packers truly believed Aaron Rodgers will be the answer, they wouldn’t have drafted Brian Brohm. Or Matt Flynn. Or both of them.

Although the Packers have a solid young team that showed real improvement as the ‘07 season unfolded, the retirement of Favre and the memories of a deflating overtime loss in the NFC title game will make it hard for Green Bay to separate from the pack in ‘08. That will create an opening for a team such as the Vikings to swipe the division title.

5. Seattle Seahawks With coach Mike Holmgren entering his final year on the sideline and the team’s next head coach (Jim Mora) already working in the building, there’s a strange vibe coming out of Seattle. Shaun Alexander, the league MVP in 2005, is long gone, and the hole in the left side of the line that was created by the departure of Steve Hutchinson in 2006 is still there.

The rest of the team seems stagnant, in a division with three other squads that could be getting better. If only one of them delivers, the Seahawks will lose their hold on the NFC West.

6. New York Giants Yeah, this is the shocker. How could the team that won the Super Bowl not make the playoffs?

Well, the Giants previously won the Super Bowl in 1986 and in 1990. In both instances, they didn’t qualify for the playoffs the next season.

Sure, the organization has changed dramatically in the 17 years since that last happened. But the point is, it’s not unprecedented for a team to win it all, and then to struggle the next time around.

The Giants got hot at the right time and stayed hot all the way through the Super Bowl. That’s a far cry from starting over with no wins and no losses—especially when they’ll have a huge bull’s-eye on their backs come September.

The pressure will be high, and the potential for dysfunction is still present. If the Giants stumble, and the media swarms and guys such as Michael Strahan, Jeremy Shockey, Plaxico Burress begin to pop off, and Eli pulls his Manning-sized head back into its shell, the outcome in ‘08 could be far different from what it was in ‘07.

 

 

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Uhhhh....not so much,

If you overlook the fact the Browns have a losing culture, still unproven, flash in the pan QB, arthritic RB with no speed and a malcontent star TE, then yes the Browns have a chance. But if you have seen professional football played before, you understand that the Steelers are the premiere team in the AFC Central/North for FOUR decades based upon consistency with ownership, coaching and identifying star players. Once the Browns get off to a bad start the fans will want Romeo’s head on a stick. They will want to change QB from the slumping Anderson to the unproven Quinn. Your TE will be in full combat mode, fatigues and all driving his locker room nuts with his act. Your RB will be arranging coke deals on his cell phone. The opportunity for an implosion for the Browns is higher than the chances of smelling b.o. in the Dogpound. This is just a fluff piece by a writer that is contractually obligated to put out two articles a week….no matter how weak the article is.

I wasn't hired for my disposition!

by Burgernazi on May 21, 2008 8:32 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

see this is the difference between cleveland and pukeburgh we look to the future and your suck in the past. very laughable

by Bereadawg on May 22, 2008 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

stuck…...missed the t

by Bereadawg on May 22, 2008 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Winslow starting his act already
Your TE will be in full combat mode, fatigues and all driving his locker room nuts with his act.

Apparently Winslow has yet to show up for the Browns’ voluntary OTA’s and the worst part is that Romeo hasn’t heard from him at all and don’t know why he’s not in attendance. Don’t worry though, his mouthpiece of an agent, Drew Rosenhaus say’s he’ll be there for mandatory practices

by cgolden on May 22, 2008 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

winslow has been training in san diego WITH permission from the TEAM..

by Bereadawg on May 23, 2008 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jamal Lewis is still servicable

I don’t care what people say, but last year Jamal Lewis was a pretty good RB. I just watched the 2nd matchup of the Browns vs. Steelers from 2007 and in the first half Lewis was flat out running over our LB’s, DB’s. All of them! Now I don’t think he’s an every down back and he doesn’t have the illusiveness to create yards on his own, but he can flat out run people over. If the Browns were able to use him properly… as a thumper, getting his carries in the 2nd half. They could shut down games earlier. I still question the toughness of their OL to run block.

Tony - Stillers Fan in Raleigh

by Tshaff on May 22, 2008 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just remember

You have to beat the man to be the man.

Until Cleveland can beat Pittsburgh on the field, all this pundit talk is nothing more than hot air.

by cgolden on May 21, 2008 9:29 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice Post

for a Browns site!
Agree with Gold above and Ric Flair. To be the man, you have to beat the man.
Win a game against Pittsburgh! Then you can talk Brown fan.

When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen

by 5020 on May 21, 2008 9:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Eh.

The Steelers will have some competition, but it’s not nearly as obvious as he makes it. The Vikes should be the Packers some competition also, but I think the Packers still have a good shot at pulling it out. The Giants shouldn’t have too big of a problem, but I seriously doubt the second wild-card spot is coming from the NFC East again this year. Same argument with the Titans; I can’t imagine both wildcards coming from the AFC South again. Seattle may not be that good, but someone has to win the NFC West; the key question is whether Arizona’s ready.

On another note, it’s bad form (and also a violation of copyright law) to copy and paste the entire article (unless you’re the original author or have the author’s permission). BB and the site can get into some serious trouble over that.

by HinesField on May 21, 2008 9:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i didnt claim the article and i put the link on it so…...

by Bereadawg on May 22, 2008 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

point is still valid

It’s still frowned upon to post the entire article, cited or not. Just pull the portion that you want to talk about instead of copying and pasting the entire thing. We’re singling you out b/c I know that others do the same thing from time to time, but we have to be careful not to get Blitz or Curtain in hot water.

Also to everyone: if you don’t know how to hyperlink something (<—like this), it’s very easy. Just select the words that you want to include the link and click on the chain icon in the header of every fanpost or comment. It’s not mandatory or anything, but it does make your story or comments more readable and is still an acceptable way to cite an another source.

by cgolden on May 22, 2008 7:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i will do this from now on i do not want anyone to get in trouble

by Bereadawg on May 23, 2008 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd be surprised if two afc north teams make the playoffs

Given the tough schedule for the entire division and the serious question marks for all teams. That said, to say the Steelers won’t make the playoffs requires an argument that the Browns, Ravens or Bengals will win the division.
I haven’t seen that argument made yet.

by vherub on May 21, 2008 2:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’ll give it a shot, though I agree that to be the man you have to beat the man, and that the Steelers should be the favorites going into 08 for that reason alone.

But on paper…

The two teams finished w/ the same record last year. Since then, what has happened?

The Browns have improved immensely: turning possibly the worst unit in all of football (our Dline) into potentially one of the best in the AFC, drastically upgrading their #2 WR position, and another year of experience added to a very, very young team.

Meanwhile the Steelers have slightly gotten worse: the loss of Faneca on the OL coupled w/ another year on an aging defense is much more important than the contributions of two rookie skill position players, neither of which will sniff a starting spot.

Thus, on paper, two formerly similar teams: one improved, one regressed. Yes, I know your strength of schedule was much harder than ours last year. But it will be again this year (#1 vs. #9).

So there’s your argument.

by kwoog on May 21, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

d*mmit, only “immensely” was supposed to be italicized… i must learn to utilize the “preview” button.

by kwoog on May 21, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Last year's draft

True that the Browns added more immediate contributers this off-season than the Steelers, and you have a point. However, you have to consider the drafts from last year as well. The Browns had 2 rookies start last year, and they will also probably be the only players from that class that will contribute significantly this year. On the other hand, we have two second year linebackers (Woodley and Timmons) that didn’t start last year, who will probably be starting this year. Add in Mendenhall, who (if healthy) should be a significant contributer as a rookie (rookie RB’s can have success), and we could be significantly better team than last year instead of slightly worse. The OL is a big mystery to us all, but I doubt it will be much worse than last year and there is a significant chance that it will be a little better this year despite losing Faneca, due to some rearranging and some younger players stepping up.

Ultimately, we just have to play the games, and you have a point; I’m just saying we have some things going for us as well.

by BadMaafala on May 21, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not quite

your “immense” improvement assumes many things.

1) Shaun Rogers actually cares about football. That’s a big if my friend, he’s never played consistently for an entire season, a couple games here and there, but otherwise, no.

2) Done Stallworth is not a DRASTIC upgrade over any #2 receiver in the league. He’s way too inconsistent. His YPC average is good, but he also doesn’t get open with any consistency, and thus his YPA average is not very good.

3) Your point about experience is true, but that also works against you. Derek Anderson is no longer a surprise, and teams will have a better idea of his strengths and weaknesses. Also Jamal Lewis is ANOTHER year older, and any time a team (like the Browns this off-season) have re-signed him, he repays the faith with a bad season. Your passing game should be better, but your running game will be worse.

by TheMostViolentTeam on May 21, 2008 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

1. reports from berea, ohio is Shaun Rogers is a beast so far in OTAs

2. Stallworth has been praticing with D.A. for over a month now. And it dont matter if he isnt a great upgrade at #2 you STILL need to put a DB/FS on him or HE WILL BURN YOU!!!! bottom line.

3. D.A. wasnt a suprise the second half of last season, but now he has more weapons to help him. I will some what agree with your statement about jamal (was never a fan) BUT he knows how to win and in the locker room that can be priceless, plus we have some talented young RBs.

week 2 cant get here fast enough

by Bereadawg on May 22, 2008 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

1) Dallas Baker is a beast in Steelers OTAs so far too

2) If I was a WR and they didn’t put a DB/FS on me, I would burn any team too, because I would be uncovered.

3) DA wasn’t a surprise the 2nd half of the season, and he also started to play worse late in the season, so you just made my point.

by TheMostViolentTeam on May 22, 2008 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shaun Rogers

Considering that contact is prohibited in OTA’s I find it hard to believe that someone would actually report that a defensive tackle has been ‘a beast’ so far. They aren’t even wearing pads so that doesn’t make a ton of sense. Is the aggressively tackling the dummies or what?

by cgolden on May 22, 2008 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i did read

that he “looked in great shape”......but he also did at the beginning of the season for Detroit last year, and let his weight go as the season went on.

by TheMostViolentTeam on May 22, 2008 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

im sorry i should have been more clear, he is in better shape than when he was with the lions.

And there is contact in OTAs, I know there isnt suppose to be but there is i see it every year when i go up the street to watch them.

by Bereadawg on May 23, 2008 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Paper Brownies

I understand that on paper the Browns have made vast improvements. This much is clear though – they haven’t been able to top the Steelers for over several years. The Steelers added a few guys themself – maybe not big name but players (Hartwig, Mendenhall, Sweed) that should make a difference. Like everyone else – I need to see the Browns go into PGH and put it to the Steelers before I’m ready to hand the crown over.

by smashmouthsteel on May 21, 2008 5:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

sweed is a good WR i just dont see him making an impact this year, i could be wrong but i doubt it. Most rookie WR don’t make an impact till year 2 or 3.

by Bereadawg on May 23, 2008 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

for me

Sweed will make an “impact”. but I don’t think he’ll make 1,000 yards or anything. a rookie year like Santonio Holmes could be in order though….500-700 yards or so, a few TDs. that would be very good considering Holmes is likely to go over 1,000, and Ward will probably go anywhere between 700-1,000 depending on health.

by TheMostViolentTeam on May 23, 2008 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good news, bad news

A word of caution for the Browns fans. Living in the DC area they have a saying about Dan Snyder and the Redskins:

Good news: Every year the Skins win the Super Bowl in April

Bad news: The Super Bowl is played in February

Fans and pundits work themselves into a tizzy during the off season over stuff that is often insignificant once the real bullets start flying. Here’s my view on this article and related issues.

The article failed to mention one extremely critical factor that might keep them out of the playoffs; their brutal schedule. If they play about at the same level they did last season this coming season they simply won’t make it.

The article also forgot to take into account an important change that might effect Pittsburgh’s pattern of performance; the Steelers have only had one coach (prior to last year) during the free agent era. We have a NEW coach now. Everybody repeat that please. To be sure certain patterns in team culture have not changed, but it is crazy to assume that the team will perform similiarly, and demonstrate the same strengths and weaknesses under Tomlin as they did under Cowher. Now, repeat this, one season does not, cannot reveal a pattern at any level. It is inappropriate, unaccurate and unfair to think or even hope that Tomlin’s teams will perform as Cowher’s teams did, even if they shared much of the same personnel.

With the previous in mind; I’ve been watching some of last year’s games from a more dispassionate perspective and while the o-line certainly was as good as it needed to be, the current critical frenzy fails to take into account that they were trying to assimilate a new system. Again, a little patience is necessary to accurately assess the root of their problems.

The article also didn’t take into account the likely ascendency of Timmons and Woodley at LB. How many people, btw predicted that we would replace a pro bowl LB (Porter) with a pro bowl LB (Harrison). Nobody guessed at FWP either. And now we hear that Dallas Baker is making some noise. Hmmm.

Finally, the most underrated and most difficult to quantify factor in consistent team success is the team culture. That is what has consistently set the Steelers apart from their rivals in the division, particularly the Ohio teams, and through the league. Culture usually trumps FO wheeling and dealing, money, even talent. The Steelers have it, most other teams and their fans don’t even know they need it.

by RickVa on May 21, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

“Culture usually trumps FO wheeling and dealing, money, even talent.”

Man, I can’t even begin to express how much I disagree with this comment. (By the way, the All Time W-L Series between the Browns and Steelers is tied… and we never had a free decade to beat up on a Steelers expansion team).

by kwoog on May 21, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what does

the all-time record have to do with anything when we are talking about this coming season? but if you wanna go to stats, the Browns haven’t swept the season series since 1988! 20 years! the Steelers have won nine in a row and 15 of 17. also, you are wrong, the Steelers lead the all-time series 57-55.

by TheMostViolentTeam on May 21, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I only brought up all time series to disprove the ridiculous claim about “winning cultures.” Romeo Crennel has had as much success in this league as anyone in football. Phil Savage helped build a superbowl winner before he was 40. Most of our team has experienced two losing seasons out of 3. Big whoop.

I believe I addressed the other stuff below.

by kwoog on May 21, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

See everytime a BROWNS fan brings up that we are going to be good or better a steeler fan brings up the past but when a BROWNS FAN brings it up its all ” what does the all-time record have to do with anything” . again laughable

by Bereadawg on May 22, 2008 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i could care less about past records, i was just pointing out he had his stats wrong. but the teams in the past few years have mostly the same players. yes Cleveland added a bunch this year, but teams add a bunch of players every year in the draft. the current core Cleveland players have never beaten the Steelers. the current core Steelers players are undefeated against the Browns. and, as in any sports, you can’t say you are better than someone until you beat them—yes on paper the Browns look better this year, but i’m not going to say they are the class of the AFC North when they haven’t beat the Steelers. i don’t see anyone on this site going to other teams like the Pats or Jags and saying we are better than them.

by TheMostViolentTeam on May 22, 2008 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it’s “couldn’t care less”

my stats were right.

i made it an overt point to say the steelers are the favs until they are beaten by the browns. which is to say, you’re the favorites until september 15th.

i’m on this site to converse and share knowledge, and i’ve been warmly greeted by most. i think the steelers are a class org (obviously), and i hope (and also believe) that my browns will get there, once again, very soon.

by kwoog on May 22, 2008 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

when did i say the browns were better??? i never did, all i am saying is that the Steelers aren’t going to walk all over the Browns like the last few years.

by Bereadawg on May 23, 2008 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Never had a free decade!?

Hello, I am a longtime reader but first time poster. I can’t let that last comment abide- The Browns dominated the Steelers during the 1950s and 1960s, racking up near 50% of their total wins in just two decades. And most of the New Browns wins over the Steelers came in the first half of their expansion decade- this is a team that got WORSE after its early expansion years, not better. So There.

by OhioSteel on May 21, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hey, at least I pulled you out of the woodwork.

50’s and 60’s? you mean 20 of the 50 years they’ve been playing? you mean 40% of the years produced 50% of the wins? not exactly crazy, in my opinion. whereas the Steelers have 15 wins against the Browns in the 9 years since expansion. thus, they’ve got got 27% of their wins in those 9 years.

Clev wins by decade (50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90-95):
16, 15, 5, 12, 4
Same for Steelers:
4, 5, 15, 8, 8

and now for 99-07, Clev-3, Pitt-15.

so… 55 to 55. (yes, i know i’m conveniently leaving out the two playoff games ;D)

Try again.

by kwoog on May 21, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

welcome!

Glad you decided to post.

by Blitzburgh on May 21, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea you're right about the numbers

Nevertheless, you agree that the nature of the Browns-Steelers rivalry has been periodic, plus that the Browns had two decades of overwhelming advantage compared with one for the Steelers. I also disagree that all of the Browns woes of the last decade have been due to the birthing and teething pains of rebooting the franchise. Those 3 wins all came prior to 2003- supposedly the recovery/rebuilding years. By way of contrast, the Houston Texans defeated the Steelers in the early years of their franchise (and still seem to have an odd power over them). The truth is this rivalry, like many, is cyclical. The Steelers have been good recently, but there will come a time when the Browns are dominant, and back again. It brings us back to the theme of this thread- a winning culture helps a team prolong its dominant time while making its down years fewer and less severe. Thats been the secret to the Steelers’ success. That is why the Browns are prone to regression after successful seasons. (2006 SB hangover notwithstanding) :)

by OhioSteel on May 21, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree that’s the secret to the Steelers’ success. I see no evidence that the Browns are prone to regression, though. To do so is pure bias and mythology, b/c it would only be based on one dismal 8 year span: 99-06 (w/ one year being a playoff appearance). And that horrid span began as a franchise team, which in general leaves little room for error.

by kwoog on May 22, 2008 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Questions for the Browns fans on this thread

How badly does the Davin Holly injury affect the 2008 season? This does not bode well in light of the Leigh Bodden trade, who I thought was pretty darn good. Should the Browns get somebody real good real quick at cornerback or are they OK?

by maryrose on May 23, 2008 8:49 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It hurts… very badly.

CB was our thinniest spot before the injury, and there was a decent chance Holly was going to be a starter. As of now the starters are both second year players, Wright and MacDonald (internally, the Browns thought Bodden had regressed quite a bit last year, plus he’s looking for a new deal which they didn’t want to give him). I get the sense that Savage isn’t panicking, but he is (rightfully) concerned.

The Plain Dealer’s beat writer is playing Chicken Little, however… insightful nonetheless (gets into the importance of a slot CB in today’s NFL):
http://blog.cleveland.com/sports/2008/05/holly_injury_big_blow_to_brown.html

by kwoog on May 23, 2008 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

For what it’s worth, here’s ESPN’s Matt Williamson’s reaction in a chat. Williamson is from Pittsburgh, lives there, still commentates and roots for the Steelers, but provides analysis for scouts, inc.:

Kevin, Cleveland: Matt—Love your chats. How much is Daven Holly’s injury going to hurt the Browns? How much will their weak secondary hurt their playoff chances?
Matt Williamson: It is a substantial loss and Holly was a find for them. I hear what you are saying, but I also think that secondary is vastly underrated overall. It is young, but dripping with talent. You might not know him yet but E Wright will be a star in this league if he keeps his nose clean. The safeties are also potential stars and they found another steal in McDonald. The problem is youth leads to mistakes and the bigger problem was that Clev couldn’t get after QBs. Now with Rogers and Williams bringing interior pressure, the secondary and K Wimbley will all greatly benefit. But…one more CB injury could be critical.

by kwoog on May 23, 2008 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

injuries are always a shame... but

I’m looking forward to bombs away come week two! PRIMETIME

Hell’s yeah brownies!

“They are not better. They are a lot worse. Right now, they have a roster more shallow at cornerback going into a season than at any time in their expansion era. “

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on May 23, 2008 12:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I figured you boys would get a kick out of that article! Should give you plenty of ammo… never say I’m not trying to be fair on here ;D

by kwoog on May 23, 2008 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

browns sign CB Terry Cousin

by Bereadawg on May 23, 2008 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

there you go, takin care of business

BTW, check out this jerky from under the cousins article in the Plain Dealer:

—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-——
posted by chuckles8605 on 05/23/08 at 11:54AM

“Terry Cousin??? Are you kidding me???

Is it too early to order Super Bowl tickets??”

man you guys are too much. On to Cousins…

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/4203:
Terry Cousins
113 tackles 6 interceptions and 1.5 sacks in the last 3 years. not bad I guess

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on May 23, 2008 6:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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