Stan Savran Chats with BTSC
Stan Savran is the Voice of Pittsburgh, hosting SportsBeat, the longest running sports show in Pittsburgh television history. His show is on every night on Fox Sports Pittsburgh at 6:30 p.m. Stan was kind enough to take a few minutes to chat with us regarding his thoughts on the current state of the Steelers. By the way, don't be at all surprised if Stan gets back on the radio on the heels of the Mark Madden firing; either in Madden's spot directly, or to replace Junker and Crowe in the morning who may move into Madden's spot.
BTSC: You came to Pittsburgh from Cleveland, of all places. That's like moving from Ann Arbor to Columbus. Did you ever have feelings for the Browns and how did those feelings sort out when you became attached to the Steelers?
SAVRAN: I had strong feelings for the Browns growing up. My dad had season tickets and took me to the games. When I moved to Pittsburgh in January of 1976, alot of people held that against me, but after I got to know the players I couldn't help but fall for the Steelers. That was right in the middle of the dynasty and the players were really great to me. I was never a big Art Modell fan and when he yanked the team out of town, that was the last straw. The Indians, on the other hand, is a team I still love. I am a huge Indians fan and that will never change.
BTSC: Savran on SportsBeat has been successful for a long time. To what do you attribute this success and how do you keep things fresh?
SAVRAN: The show started in March 1991 and Beano Cook hosted the first show. Guy Junker actually started it all with Myron Cope and I succeeded Myron. TV talk was brand new back then. Sports talk radio was really not a factor in the evenings, so we had a unique opportunity. Guy and I had great chemistry. As far as keeping it fresh, the news of the day itself keeps it fresh. Plus, we're on the air at a great time.
BTSC: Being in a situation where you get to know the players and coaches personally over time, do you find it difficult to be critical of people you want to continue cultivating relationships with?
SAVRAN: Yes, it really is a fine line. Players find out what is said about them and sometimes confront you. But my first responsibility is to the viewer. I have found that as long as I am honest about what I do and go about things professionally, the players will respect me. I've had players approach me and privately admit that what I said about them was true. I am not looking to be anyone's friend and that's important to understand. I do want to be fair and honest and let the chips fall where they may.
BTSC: Mike Tomlin has said all the right things from day one. He never makes excuses and never throws players or coaches under the bus. Yet, we saw our special teams collapse, our offensive line deteriorate and the defense could not come up with critical stops at the end of games. All that said, how much of a Mike Tomlin fan are you now and down the road?
SAVRAN: I am a huge Mike Tomlin fan. He's absolutely terrific and is just going to get better. You have to remember that success in the NFL is basically cyclical. It's set up that way. Tomlin inherited a team that was on the downturn after their Super Bowl win. Don't let last year's record fool you. The Steelers needed to get younger at just about every position and look how much they've done in his two drafts? They couldn't address everything, but what they did address they did extremely well. Mike Tomlin is doing a great job of improving a team that was aging more so than alot of people realize.
BTSC: Speaking of aging, were you surprised that they didn't address the lines more in the offseason?
SAVRAN: Their Draft philosophy was to stay true to their board and they did that. Maybe if a lineman was close thay would have taken him, but with each of their picks the guy they took was way ahead of anything else. They took guys they couldn't pass on. Sweed was the 25th best player available and they got him 53rd. Still, the defensive line is really getting old and has little depth. I am much more concerned about that than the offensive line, where they brought in a nice upgrade at center. Casey Hampton concerns me. Nose tackles can lose it in a real hurry due to the pounding their huge bodies take. Remember Joel Steed? He was very good and then fell off the table. Casey had a down year and his age isn't in his favor.
BTSC: Do you think the Steelers are too conservative as an organization, or do you think their style is the reason for their success?
SAVRAN: Both. They do limit themselves by playing it straight. They just don't overpay for players like some teams that are more aggressive do. However, their system is designed to be a contending team year after year, not just go gung-ho for a Super Bowl and then bottom out for 10 years. Pittsburgh fans prefer consistency and so does the Rooney family. They may not take gambles like other teams, but they also don't lose gambles like other teams.
BTSC: Speaking of not overpaying players, what can we make of the whole Max Starks ordeal? He gets beaten out at right tackle by a guy who seems more like a guard, then gets $6.9 million thrown at him for one season, making neither short-term or long-term sense.
SAVRAN: It is mystifying, but from the Steelers' perspective they had to pay any price to keep from losing both tackles within the next year. I'm guessing that a long-term deal with Max will get done. He's still young. Marvell is coming off back problems and will be an unrestricted free agent over 30 years of age in a year. They couldn't afford to lose two tackles. Max still has upside with this new regime working with him. The offensive line this year may not be as good as 2005, but it will be better than 2006 and 2007.
BTSC: How do you see the AFC North this year? The Browns seem to be the sexy pick nationally.
SAVRAN: The Browns need to prove they can win a big game before I am sold on them. They may, however, win the division by default. By that I mean 8-8. Pittsburgh may win the division with that record. The schedule this year is alot different than it was a year ago.
BTSC: What are your thoughts about the labor-management situation? Should the Steelers be concerned about the future.
SAVRAN: Nope. A deal is going to get done. They will renegotiate the percantage paid to the players. Gene Upshaw got the players a great deal last round, but it's too much and the players have too much to lose to be stubborn. It may cost Upshaw his job, but a deal will get done. Jerry Jones is not going to allow a work stoppage the year before his new stadium is to host the Super Bowl.
BTSC: In the recent past you have expressed concern about the depth of the receiving corp. The Steelers grabbed Sweed and seem to have alot of young, talented guys like Baker, Trannon, Rucker, Walker and then there's Willie Reid. How do you think the receiving corp will sift out?
SAVRAN: I'd love to see Sweed and Holmes split out with Ward in the slot, but Hines has an awfully big ego. I don't know how he'll accept Sweed, honestly. I can see Sweed eventually replace Hines in the slot, even though he's tall. If Hines buys into a three-receiver set with Sweed and Holmes that can be really potent. It depends on Hines' ego. Nate is just average, always has been and always will be. Those other guys are probably just bodies.
Agreed! Many thanks to Stan Savran for taking the time!
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Great interview
Thanks for that. Always interesting to see the guys who are close call it like they see it.
Super interesting to see Savran call out Ward. You always got the sense watching the games that Ward is a leader to the other Wideouts.
You get the sense that Savran thinks it might play out differently behind the scenes. It would be a shame if that were the case, and you would hope that Ward shows the grace and charachter that FWP has shown to the giant crop of people waiting in line for his job.
by SteelerBuddha on May 29, 2008 6:58 PM EDT 0 recs
ward
Is that how you interpreted it Buddha? I wasnt sure I read it as him calling him out, rather him just saying that Ward has an ego and tons of pride and might not be too thrilled to relinquish his duties on the outside. All the greats have/had egos.
I could be wrong though in how I interpreted it. Savran knows Ward personally. I do not.
by Blitzburgh on
May 29, 2008 7:05 PM EDT
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I got the impression from Stan
That Ward’s ego has the “potential” to get in the way of the Steelers maximizing their chances of success. It may not, of course, and Hines could turn out to be a perfect team player, but the ego is there and therefore so is the potential.
A couple weeks ago I posted a story talking about the new skill players fitting in with the current stars and how important it was that the current guys put aside egos and really buy into the team concept. That piece may have appeared obvious, but again, looking the part and talking the part is much easier than really sacrificing and buying into the team concept.
That said, I really do believe Hines will rise above it all for the team. it just may take a little internal struggle to do so. He’s only human. People feel what they feel. We all wish we didn’t feel a few things that we did, but we can’t help it. That’s life.
by maryrose on
May 29, 2008 7:45 PM EDT
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Agreed
I think you are spot on. Lets not forget that Ward uses precieved slights as motivation. The guys isn’t fast, wasn’t drafted high and he likes to fire himself up. I can’t imagine Sweed taking over outside in his first year though. Is that even being discussed?
by SteelerBuddha on
May 29, 2008 7:58 PM EDT
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No Buddha
That’s not being talked about. What is being talked about is the three-headed weapon with Sweed and Tone out wide and Hines in the slot. That still dilutes the touches each man gets (not to mention the double running backs now as well), but you make a great point. Ward will use his “dillusion of persecution” and turn it into an asset. he’s really to good of a man not to.
by maryrose on
May 29, 2008 8:13 PM EDT
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makes your post awhile back
look all the more relevant. Not fluff whatsoever. That is going to be an important aspect of our 2008-2010 seasons as some of our most loyal and accomplished veterans surrender some of their duties and glory to the younger players.
by Blitzburgh on
May 29, 2008 8:03 PM EDT
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Hopefully
they’ll follow Bettis’s example in that.
I haven’t gotten through all of the comments yet, but this conversation has already been insightful. I could see Hines using this to work harder and motivate himself, but I think the biggest thing about him is that he’s a passionate, emotional player. I think we saw that just as much in his holdout a couple years ago as in his crying after the 2004 AFCC game because he wanted so much for Bettis to win a SB. He may have an ego, but as Blitz said, all the greats do. Didn’t we hear reports earlier about how Hines has taken Sweed under his wing? And, in another report, it mentioned Sweed shaking Mendenhall’s hand and talking about how he hoped they had long career with this great team. It sure sounded like Sweed had enough humility that it would be hard for Hines to let his ego get in the way. Anyway, I think Hines will be fine. Bettis said he had a hard time with his diminished role too, but he would rather finish with the Steelers than try to hold on a couple years somewhere else.
by WolfpackSteelersFan on
May 30, 2008 10:50 AM EDT
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great job mary rose btw
And thanks Mr. Savran for taking the time! Glad we got some meat and potatoes football questions in there.
Interesting pt about Tomlin and cyclical nature of football.
by Blitzburgh on May 29, 2008 7:41 PM EDT 0 recs
age of the team
yeah, especially about the age of the team. I really thought we were a relatively young team.
by WolfpackSteelersFan on
May 30, 2008 10:52 AM EDT
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Wolfpack
Just to be clear, Stan was mainly referring to the age of the defense prior to last year’s Draft. If you think about it, our line was aging with no depth (still is), our linebackers were really aging (then we had no idea about Silverback), and we had DeShea. In the last 13 months we really added alot of youth if you think about it. There also seems to be alot of young guys fighting for starting positions.
In addition, we really added youth to the skill positions with Spaeth, Mendenhall and Sweed.
I think what Stan was getting at is that the team has become alot younger since Tomlin took over, with the exception of course, of defensive line, which is Stan’s biggest concern.
I don’t think I made all that clear enough.
by maryrose on
May 30, 2008 11:07 AM EDT
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No you did
It’s just that I didn’t realize that the D was as old as it was. Just not looking at the details, I guess. Of course, before I found BTSC, I didn’t have a group of informed Steelers fans to make it easy for me. :)
by WolfpackSteelersFan on
May 30, 2008 11:10 AM EDT
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Class Act
Great interview Blitz! Thanks for the great work and for doing what it takes to get interviews with people around the Steelers and the NFL.
Stan Savran is a class act. He always has been one. I know this to be true. When I was 13 I used to call Savran On Sports on 970 AM WWWS in Pittsburgh. I was a stat geek and Stan always put me on air, peppered me with questions and treated the youngster dubbed “The Pirate” with class and dignity. I can’t imagine how Jim Rome would treat a 13 year old calling his show. Later in life as a “reporter” for the Taylor Alderdice Foreword (nobody shakes the Dice!) I called Savran and asked him for an interview. He met me at Rhoda’s in Squirrel Hill for breakfast on a Sunday morning (he picked up the tab) and gave me a good story for the high school paper and a great experience. He also was one of the people in my youth that instilled the confidence in me that I could accomplish whatever I wanted in life and that no one is better than anyone else.
Thanks Stan! Regards, “The Pirate”
When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen
by 5020 on May 29, 2008 7:42 PM EDT 0 recs
KUDO'S ROSE
I just noticed that was your name on the by line not Blitz.
When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen
by 5020 on
May 29, 2008 7:42 PM EDT
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hehe
Nice catch. Rose’s fine work indeed.
Thats a fantastic story btw about you calling in. Classic. I wonder if he remembers. I bet he does.
by Blitzburgh on
May 29, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
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He picked up the tab?
That’s class all the way. True, you were 13, but still, impressive. Great story. Stan is really one of us and doesn’t consider himself on any pedestal. That’s what really makes him effective as an interviewer. He asks questions through the eyes of the fan because he is one. If you watch Stan, ever notice how he always asks the questions you would ask?
by maryrose on
May 29, 2008 8:18 PM EDT
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played with photos a bit senor rose
They were a bit blurry. Let me know if theyre ok before any more time passes. Ill remove this comment afterwards.
by Blitzburgh on
May 29, 2008 8:21 PM EDT
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Photos great, thanks.
Sorry I am a technical idiot that makes you work every time i do something.
by maryrose on
May 29, 2008 8:22 PM EDT
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you're allright
I’ll email you offsite one of these days with some better, easier instructions so as not to waste any of your time. Thanks.
by Blitzburgh on
May 29, 2008 8:25 PM EDT
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Love the class that Savran showed you
Great story “Good Things” Savran treating a 13 year old kid and than a highschool journalist with class is a hallmark of good charachter.
BTW – I was also a foreword reporter at Dice. But i wasn’t all that good – I think I wrote maybe one story during the year.
by SteelerBuddha on May 29, 2008 7:51 PM EDT 0 recs
What's Up Dragon!
Class of 81.
Know Something Do Something. Be Something.
When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen
by 5020 on
May 29, 2008 8:04 PM EDT
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dice dice baby!
Class of ‘95 here :)
That was actually the only year I went, we moved to da ‘burgh from Santa Fe – that was the year I started becoming a stillers fan. Didn’t write for the Foreword, but did row crew – that was a blast!
by acrollet on
May 29, 2008 8:33 PM EDT
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Nice Dice
My brother graduated 95. A big fish in a little pond (if you remember the speech)
by SteelerBuddha on
May 30, 2008 11:42 AM EDT
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Ha! Dragons indeed!
I am class of 90. A couple of years above Curtis Martin. As a matter of fact, my next door neighbor was his pediatrician. He tells this story of this kid coming in to get a physical to play on the HS football team. He said he spent the whole physical trying to talk the kid out of playing, telling him he was too small, he would get hurt, he should do something productive with his life, etc. – that kid (Curtis Martin), it turns out is probably going to the hall of fame…..
by SteelerBuddha on May 29, 2008 8:27 PM EDT 0 recs
damn
That’s funny.
Good to see some local cats…err dragons…showing off school pride :) Sounds like that school was pretty big.
by Blitzburgh on
May 29, 2008 8:38 PM EDT
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Great job Rose
And many thanks to Mr Savran. Great stuff on Tomlin and the state of the franchise.
by cgolden on May 30, 2008 7:44 AM EDT 0 recs
Labor situation
I hope he’s right about getting a deal done. That was a good point on Savran’s part that Jerry Jones wouldn’t want to have a work stoppage the year before he’s supposed to get the SB. Maybe that’s one of the reasons the league awarded it that year. :)
by WolfpackSteelersFan on May 30, 2008 11:12 AM EDT 0 recs
That's funny
When I lived in Meadville, we would get channel 43 out of Cleveland, so I heard a lot more about the Indians than the Pirates. We had an antenna most of the time, no cable, so Channel 2 didn’t come in well. Most of our local stations were out of Erie.
Of course, the Indians sucked back then. I was hoping they’d keep the Braves winless in the World Series, though. Oh, well.
by WolfpackSteelersFan on
May 30, 2008 12:36 PM EDT
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Ha ha, yeah, obviously Browns fans are a little protective… It’s a package deal, dammit. Browns/Indians, Steelers/Pirates.
However, the Steelers/Indians fan doesn’t perplex me as much as the people in this city, Chicago. Cubs and Sox fans genuinely hate each other, get in fights over it… but then come the fall, they all put on Bears gear and cheer together.
(I’ll never forget Glavine all night getting pitches at least 8 inches off the plate called a strike in Game 6 of that WS…)
by kwoog on
May 30, 2008 1:07 PM EDT
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If the Cardinals were still there
you’d probably have the same thing in Chicago. But, then, maybe not. The Cards were never as dominant as the Bears during their hayday.
Yeah, I was sure it would go to seven, because (I guess it was Glavine, but I thought it was Maddox) whoever the pitcher was, I remember he always seemed to lose it in the WS. I can’t comment on the calls, because I can’t actually stand to watch baseball, but I still pull for some teams over others. I don’t get upset if they lose, like in football, though.
by WolfpackSteelersFan on
May 30, 2008 1:27 PM EDT
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I’m one of those Indians/Steelers fans. I grew up in Youngstown so I was conveniently in between Cleveland and Pittsburgh. I like the Indians because I went to a bunch of their games when I was young and my family is all Indians fans. Of course my family is all Browns fans too, but for some reason, at an early age (by kindergarten) I was a Steelers fan.
I take all kinds of abuse from other Tribe fans.
by Cols714 on
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