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A Closer Look At The Steelers QBs Since Terry Bradshaw (Part 1)

Prompted by a comment made yesterday by Black Steel in the comments section of WolfPack's fantastic study: the QBs of Steelers lore since Terry Bradshaw's retirement. I'm going to be relying on the slightly older fans here to help me out with some of the QBs of the '80s. Let's get to it:

CLIFF STOUDT:

Drafted in the 5th round of the 1977 Draft, Stoudt served the first part of his career on the bench behind Bradshaw and Mike Kruczek. He would make his first appearance in 1980, play sparingly in 1981 and 1982, then start 15 of 16 games in 1983. Stoudt guided the Steelers to a 10-6 record in '83, good enough for a playoff berth.  Their season, and Stoudt's career as a QB for the Steelers would end in the 1st round courtesy of the Los Angeles Raiders. The following year, Stoudt played in the USFL for the Birmingham Stallions.

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I'm guessing Pittsburgh fans didn't treat Clifford too well in his return to Three Rivers Stadium the following year as a player in the USFL.

Career Statistics in Pittsburgh:

244 of 479 (50.9%); 3217 yards; 14 TDs, 28 INTs; 57.9 QB Rating

Best Season in Pittsburgh:

197 of 381 (51.7%) 2553 yards; 12 TDs, 21 INTs; 60.6 QB Rating

MARK MALONE:

Malone, drafted with the 20th overall pick of the 1st round in the 1980 draft, would play sparingly in his first three years before getting his first significant opportunity to succeed in the 1984 season. He would start 43 games betwen '84-'87, before winding down his very mediocre career in New York and San Diego.

Malone is exactly the type of player that I'd love to hear some of y'all speak up about. I was too young to remember much, if any, of his career, and I imagine following in Bradshaw's footsteps made it difficult for him to please the elevated expectations of Steelers fans not yet a decade removed from the dynastic years of the '70s. Of course, Malone was not singularly responsible for some of the lean years in the mid 1980s, but the reality is the glory and blame for team success typically begins and ends with the play of the QB. In Malone's case, it simply wasn't very good.

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Malone's play was never quite as awesome as his mustache


Career Statistics in Pittsburgh:

690 of 1374 (50.2%); 8582 yards;  54 TDs; 68 INTs; 62.4 QB Rating

Best Season in Pittsburgh (1984):

Feel free to offer your opinion, but it appears '84 was Malone's best season as a Steeler based on statistics and on overall team success. The Steelers made the AFC Championship game that year, losing to the Miami Dolphins 45-28.

147 of 272 (54%); 2137 yards; 16 TDs; 17 INTs; 73.4 QB Rating

DAVID WOODLEY:

Woodley, Miami's 8th round selection in 1980, would appear in 16 games, starting 13 of them, for Pittsburgh in 1984 and 1985, the final two years he would see the field in the NFL.

Career Statistics:

179 of 339 (52.8%); 2630 yards; 14 TDs; 21 INTs; 66.4 QB Rating

Best Season in Pittsburgh (1984):

Wooldey teamed with Malone to help lead the Steelers to the playoffs this year, starting in all 7 games in which he appeared. He compiled a 3-4 record that year before Malone took over for the remainder of the season.

85 of 156 (54.5%); 1273 yards; 8 TDs; 7 INTs; 79.9 QB Rating

SCOTT CAMPBELL:

I'm not going to waste any valuable time on Campbell. This 7th round draft pick out of Purdue in the 1984 draft only stuck around Pittsburgh for two years. He must have been a place holder or something, because he appeared in all 16 games in 1985, despite having only 96 pass attempts.

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Up Next: Bubby Brister, Todd Blackledge, Steve Bono, Rick Strom

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Thank God for Ben!

because we’ve been in a QB desert between Bradshaw and Ben.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Jun 10, 2008 1:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Amazed

I’m amazed at how the amount of spare QB play they had in the 80’s. It’s probably a significant accomplishment that they made it to the playoffs as often as they did, especially the AFC championship game.

For someone who remembers the NFL in the 80’s (like Blitz, I was making my way through elementary school for much of that decade), was it common to have quarterbacks with stats like these or were these truly below average/fringe NFL players? It seems like I’ve always heard that completion percentages were much lower since the passing game was more vertical but that could be bad memory or my part or just plain bad information.

by cgolden on Jun 10, 2008 1:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yea

wondering the same too. Seems like everybody was in the 50% range, and not one of our QBs had better even a 1:1 TD/INT ratio. Dumpy stuff.

by Blitzburgh on Jun 10, 2008 2:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Stats

This was after the rules changes preventing DBs from contacting WRs after 5 yards. I don’t think a 55% completion percentage was horrible for the early 80s, but consistently having more interceptions that TDs was certainly problematic. And, we also didn’t have a great RB any longer to take the pressure off of the QB.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Jun 10, 2008 2:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just did quick look at numbers for 1981

The league average that year was 0.7 more interceptions than tds. And, 15 of the 28 teams at the time had more ints than TDs. But, there was also less parity at the time. Often, the worst teams were really bad, and the best teams were really good. With just that quick, and since it lines up with what I originally thought, I would say that’s mediocre. Not horrible, since, there teams that had 10 or more greater number of ints than TDs that year, but certainly not good.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Jun 10, 2008 2:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this brings back nightmares

I moved to Pittsburgh from Israel at the age of 7. It was the summer of 1979. That fall my father took me to a pirates playoff game. Some drunk accidently spilled a full beer on me. I didn’t matter I was in heaven. Omar Mareno was my hero. The stadium pa played we are family, and I thought that we had come to the coolest place on earth. That winter the Pittsburgh Steelers won the superbowl. I watched my new found heros on a 13 inch TV with rabbit ears. I was convinced that Pittsburgh was not only the coolest place on earth, but that it was somewow also blessed (perphaps even by my presence).

I was 7 and I was a very happy sports fan.

And then came the 80’s. My pirate heros were disgraced. Willie Stargell was dealing speed in the lockeroom. Dale Berra was dealing coke. Apparently the Pirate Parrot (for cryin out loud!) was the supplier. Dave Parker’s cocaine use caught up to him and he began playing poorly. He had to take to wearing a batting helemet in the outfield because Pittsburgh fans threw batteries at him.

It was all too depressing.

And the Steelers, while less theatrical in their suckiness, were perhaps an even greater dissapointment. The glory that had blessed the team in the 70’s seemed to taper in the early 80’s. Three straight years of playoff dissapointment were replaced by years of wondering through the playoffless desert.

At the age of 7 Pittsburgh seemed like the center of the world. By the time I reached the age of 14 it seemed to be decaying. The endless list of loser quarterbacks seemed somewhow a perfect reflection of the futility and hopelesness of a place that time was in the process of passing by. The closed, rusting steel mills hovered over the town like the memory of those great steeler teams. The countless talk of a tech recovery seemed about as hopeless as talk of one for the tumb.

Sorry for the drama – but that was growing up in the post dynasty era.

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by SteelerBuddha on Jun 10, 2008 5:01 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow

I was 6 when I saw the Steelers win Super Bowl XIV. That is the first football game that I remember watching. I know I saw a few plays of other games before that, but I remember this game and what it was. That’s when I became a Steelers fan. Then, as you said, the 80s came. I didn’t follow football too closely until the late 80s, but still wanted the Steelers to be good.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Jun 10, 2008 5:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Parrot

I know the Parrot. He is doing well, staying clean and living in the great North West.

When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen

by 5020 on Jun 10, 2008 5:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Seriously?

I don’t know if that’s a joke or not, but what a great story. If true I love it! Its a story that could be turned into a great folk song.

by SteelerBuddha on Jun 12, 2008 10:37 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

QB Memories

Stoudt; One of my least favorite Steeler QB’s of all time. Cliff the Stiff and Stiff Drought were two of his monikers around the ‘Burgh. Stoudt was especially disappointing in his first season of starting in 83. The Steelers had an intense D that year that surged to 9-2 on the strength of their D scoring TD off turnovers. Opposing O coordinators soon figured out that if they played the Steelers conservative (1-2-3 kick) and stayed in a tight game "the Stiff" would make a mistake and their own D would capitalize. 9-2 was soon 9-6 and the Steelers were looking at getting bounced from the playoffs. Bradshaw threw 2 TD vs. NYJ before his arm fell off and Pittsburgh makes the playoffs! Stoudt starts and hits Wayne Capers for 70 yards on the games first play. 3-0 Steelers. Final score Raiders 38 Pittsburgh 3.
I was lucky to be one of those in attendance when Stoudt visited the Maulers in the new league. We booed him unmercifully. Stoudt was tormented with snow balls and jeers. It was a fun day in Pittsburgh.
Malone was a #1 who had Tom Selleck looks and a Mary Selleck arm. He was actually pretty athletic and quick on his feet in college. He played WR in his rookie year due to his athletism and some injuries and actually caught the longest pass in Steelers history (some 90 yards) until recently broken I think. He also blew out his knee playing WR sapping him of his speed and scrambling ability and relegating him to also ran status with his not so impressive arm. His best year was 1984 when he led a band of over achievers to within a Marino of the SB. Dan put up 48 points on a very good D with no answer for the young Marino.
Woodley was a joke. We got him because Miami cut him loose and he had played (and lost) in the SB with Miami. He was worthless.
Campbell was a little guy (from Purdue I think) and the original Drew Brees without the talent. He was under sized and unathletic but he did possess not much of an arm. He was brash and he wanted to win. Very “Bubby Brister” like without the playoff appearance. Like Woodley not much of a QB and another in a long line of players that make me appreciate 7 and what he brings more than many on the site without the hindsite.

When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen

by 5020 on Jun 10, 2008 5:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nice

Figured you might have been at that game ‘50.

by Blitzburgh on Jun 10, 2008 6:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Malone

As 5020 mentioned, Malone hurt his knee early in his NFL career. Coming out of ASU, he was a 4.4 option qb who was named MVP of the Senior Bowl. (I know some of these 40 times are exaggerated, but the point was that he was fast.) He was fast enough to take a short pass from Terry Bradshaw and run 90 yards for a td. Unfortunately for him, he had knee surgery after the 81 season and he wore a knee brace for the rest of his NFL career.

Would he have been appreciably better if he had never hurt his knee. Who knows? But despite some success in 1984, he was never able to make it as a pocket passer. At times he was wildly innacurate, sometimes bouncing passes towards the intended wr and other times overthrowing them significantly.

By the final game of the 1987 season, which would be his last game as a Steeler, the fans were merciless. And this was a home game against the Browns. There were signs all over the stadium. One that I remember vividly stated, “All I want for Xmas is a new qb.” Another fan hanged him in effigy (had a doll with a steeler uniform with malone’s name and number hanging from a noose). Although I too wanted to see a new qb, I remember feeling sorry for the guy.

by steeler1275 on Jun 11, 2008 3:22 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Favorite Malone Sign

The picture of the bulls eye with a 16 in the middle. The words around the bulls eye read “Off The Mark Again!” Classic!

When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen

by 5020 on Jun 11, 2008 3:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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