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Once again, rumblings have surfaced concerning Tomlin and how he should never have been hired and should be let go.  I am a big fan of his, at least in this early stage of his career.  I believe that he should be allowed a chance to show what he is worth, and so far he has not failed.  I personally am grateful that we cheer for a team that is not fickle in its decisions with the head coaching position.   So I thought I would do a little Cowher/Tomlin/Noll comparison, taking a look at each coach's first season, since that is all we can look at from Tomlin's point of view.

Record:

Cowher(1992): 11-5, losing 2 of the last 3.

Tomlin(2007): 10-6, losing 3 of the last 4.

Noll(1969): 1-13, losing 13 in a row to end the season.

 

Postseason:

Cowher - yes, getting blown out 24-3 by the bills in the divisional round after a bye.

Tomlin - yes, losing 31-29 in a disheartening loss the Jags.

Noll - Um, no.

 

Team Passing:

Cowher - 431 att, 249 comp, 57.8%, 3046 yds, 15 Tds, 14 Ints, 40 sacks allowed, starting qb(odonnell) had an 83.6 rating.

Tomlin - 442 att, 282 comp, 63.8%, 3418 yds, 34 Tds, 14 ints, 47 sacks allowed. starting qb(ben) had a 104.1 rating.

Noll - 391 att, 176 comp, 45%, 2458 yds, 17 Tds, 29 ints, 52 sacks allowed, starting qb(shiner) had a 60.3 rating.

 

Team Rushing:

Cowher - 518 att, 2156 yds, 13 Tds, 4.2 ypc.

Tomlin - 511 att, 2158 yds, 9 Tds, 4.2 ypc.

Noll - 400 att, 1542 yds, 8Tds, 3.9 ypc.

 

Team Defense:

Cowher - 22 ints, 36 sacks, 225 points allowed.

Tomlin - 11 ints, 36 sacks, 266 points allowed.

Noll - 25 ints, 404 points allowed. 

Pretty even, eh?  (putting aside Noll's atrocious first season)

So, I'm curious.  Where in these stats does it warrant a coaching change this year?  Or even a modicum of regret at Tomlin's hiring in the first place?  Where does anyone get the idea that changing coaches frequently is a good idea?  Its not.  Some examples:

Miami - 5 coaches in the last 6 years - 0 playoff appearances.

Oakland - 4 coaches in the last 6 years - 1 playoff app

Granted, these are extreme examples.  But hell, how can anyone seriously gripe about Tomlin in his first year, after the kind of year that he had?  I know that there are(inexplicably) Cowher detractors out there.  But the man provided us with 15 years of winning football, culminating in a Superbowl.   And I know there aren't many out there that are gonna tell me Noll sucked.  But his first year sure did.  He went 1-13!  Are you kidding me?  1- 13?  What if the FO had had that knee-jerk reaction that so many fans get when faced with results lower than their expectations?  How dramatically different would our franchise look today if Noll had been let go?  Obviously, we will never know, but I sure am glad we didn't have to find out.  Tomlin deserves a chance, even without his success last season.

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Noll was 1-13 in his first season. True. But the organization that Noll took to 1-13 and the organization that you are comparing that to vis a vis Cowher and Tomlin are two different organizations.

Cowher and Tomlin had the HUGE advantage of taking over an organization that Charles Henry Noll helped build. Before Noll and in the early days Art took little notice of what was happening in the FO and how the organization was being run. Art was more interested in the horse tracks and the dog tracks and the other Ronney business ventures that made money. Coaches regularly traded high draft picks for veterans past their prime. Noll stated at his first team meeting that many of the players would not be around because they simply weren’t good enough. That 1-13 team was a bunch of losers plus Mean Joe Greene. The players that Cowher fielded and the philosophy that fielded Tomlin’s squad were the direct result of one Charles Henry Noll. So please be careful in ridiculing the only coach in NFL history with 4 SB titles because you have an affinity for Coach Tomlin and feel the need to defend his 10-6 inaugural season.

In regards to Tomlin I don’t know who you speak of that is clamoring for him to be fired (I have not read that anywhere) but don’t fret. His job is safe. He did an admirable job in getting the Steelers to the playoffs in his first season. He still has a long way to go though. He is in no way in the ball park with Cowher yet and he is not even in Noll’s universe. He could start by winning a playoff game.

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by 5020 on Jun 16, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions  

wtf??

Wow. Could you have misunderstood what I wrote any more?? Where did you see any ridiculing??? Because I pointed out he went 1-13 in his first season? In no way did I ridicule Noll, or anyone else for that matter. By any standards, 1-13 is atrocious. Whether you had bums playing for you or studs, no one wants to see 1-13. Cripes, did you even read the last paragraph? You couldn’t have, since you say that Tomlin is in no way in the ball park with Cowher. No kidding. That was the whole point of the piece, that we have no idea what ball park he is in, and he deserves a chance. The whole point of the last bit was to point out that Noll is one of the greatest to ever coach the game, and how would it have been idiotic to give up on him after one season. I grew up in the Pittsburgh area during Noll superbowl era. Would you feel better if I pointed out that just 3 seasons later Noll would go 11-3 and take the team deep into the playoffs? Or that from 1972 to 1979 Noll would only lose 27 games? Should I mention that he is the only coach to win back to back superbowl titles, twice? Don’t accuse me of ridiculing a man I’ve met four times personally and idolized my entire youth, one of only three people in my entire life I’ve ever cared about getting his autograph. Its offensive.

As for the why, this came about only because I read several hateful comments about Tomlin on the cbs boards. There was also a couple comments here in a former post about three days ago that he never should have been hired. So I wanted to research just how he stood up against our other two coaches since I’ve been alive. I don’t post on message boards, since there are way too many trolls looking to rile things up. So I put my findings here. All I was trying to do was show his season was okay. Not great, not that he is the second coming of Noll, or even Cowher. Just that there is no way to tell yet where he will lead us.

by steelerark on Jun 16, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why I Had To Defend The Emperor

Well firstly you defend Tomlin by posting the worst stats on Noll’s resume. Noll’s record with Bill Austin’s team in 1969 is hardly a fair reflection of Chuck Noll.
Secondly you posted snide comments after each Noll stat…( um no?) Thirdly, you state emphantcally that Noll’s first year at 1-13 “sucked” when it actually didn’t. Noll was instilling a winning attitude and making addition through subtraction. You got to start at the bottom sometimes to build a good foundation. “Are you kidding me? 1-13?” Finally I have not heard any “rumblings” or voices” If you mean that some have questioned the hiring of Tomlin with guys like Whis and Grimm available what is wrong with that? Are we now the Democratic party in lieu of the Steeler Nation where if you descent on one issue you are tossed out of the Nation? (ie Joe Lieberman)

Hey Ark, no disrespect meant. I usually like your posts. In your quickness to defend Tomlin against “the voices” I felt you were hasty in your posting and you didn’t read it fully. I just didn’t like the aspersions I felt were being cast Noll’s way nor did I appreciate comparing a first year 10-7 coach who has accomplished little to an icon like Noll. If you feel the way you do about Noll that you stated in your “wtf” reply then that is awesome. You should have stated that in your post. You didn’t.

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by 5020 on Jun 17, 2008 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

fair enough

The snide comment of umm no was not meant as a slight against Noll, just that it was obvious they didn’t make the playoffs with that record. The are you kidding me was aimed at the fact that here was a guy that went 1-13 in his first season. By today’s standards, if that happened, regardless of the situation, many owners would boot him out the door. The whole point being look what we would have missed had that happened. Noll, Lemieux, and Stargell are the only people that I have ever cared about getting an autograph because aside from amazing on-field achievements, they are all three extraordinary individuals who gave back to the community. Noll came to my high school when I was a kid(8th grade, small school that was 7-12), and I got to ask him several questions after our practice. I would in no way compare Tomlin or even Cowher to Noll as there is no comparison. Sorry if I didn’t state myself well. This post was just to show a comparison of all three coach’s first season. It wasn’t to refute any rumblings, the stuff I had read on the boards just fueled my curiosity. That’s it. It was weird how close Tomlin and Cowher were.

by steelerark on Jun 17, 2008 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair Enough

We agree then. Tomlin did an admirable job guiding the Steelers to the playoffs. I just wish he showed more coaching savvy against Denver, NE and Jax. That moxie will come with age and experience. If not he will be gone.
I do hope the moxie comes and it comes with another ring!

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by 5020 on Jun 17, 2008 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Voices?

I haven’t heard any – and I don’t think that we would make any move. It looks like we are building something special and I for one – am looking forward to the next several years. Tomlin should be a good one – Arians I’m not so sure about. It will be pretty interesting to see what happens once Lebeau finally decides to hang it up (I’m a huge fan of his).

by smashmouthsteel on Jun 17, 2008 9:16 AM EDT reply actions  

LOL, golden...

I’m no fan of Tomlin, but I never suggested he would be replaced. I’m pretty sure he gets a good long run, regardless of his record. Unless he takes a tire iron to Roethlisberger’s knee or something.

I’m not so much upset with his on field work, which was a bit spotty, to be sure, but I just find him really dour and uninspiring as a personality. As a head coach, charisma and recruitment skills, with regard to other staff , are the big assets. The position coaches do most of the nuts and bolts stuff as far as game planning, and the general manager and scouting staff provide the players. So what is left is public relations and team motivational skill. I haven’t seen anything from Tomlin in those departments that make him more qualified for the job than the average postman or security gaurd.

by robert ethan on Jun 17, 2008 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, it just sounded more like you hoped he was replaced and never should have been hired. Maybe it’s just personal preferences, but you’re one of only a couple of people that have not liked his charisma/media repoire. As far as far motivating the team; you never heard that he was losing the team, or anything close to that, did you? As far as I can tell, he’s done a fantastic job of gaining the respect of the players very quickly.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Jun 17, 2008 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he made an error in judgement with his first signing..

Zierlein. I think that as much as anything is the reason that Faneca is no longer a Steeler. Big Al wasn’t happy with the selection of Tomlin over the organizational guys to begin with, and I think that he never took to Zielein as his position coach.

Now you have one of the stars and team leaders, Polamalu, basically thumbing his nose as Tomlin’s OTA camp, and a rising star in Holmes publicly criticizing the activities. It may just be coincidence, but in the two off season sessions that Tomlin has run, three of their most valuable young players, Timmons, Woodley, and Mendenhall have sustained injuries that set their development back somewhat.

by robert ethan on Jun 17, 2008 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, these are, at least, legitimate concerns. Except Faneca said publicly that he wanted Grimm, not that he was opposed to Tomlin. And, he was offended by the extension that was offered. Again, not really related to Tomlin.

Polamalu, by all accounts, cleared his training with the staff, and what you read as Holmes criticizing the OTAs, some see as nothing more than him saying the same thing that Farrior did earlier (that veterans are there to help the young guys more than anything else). The injuries are concerns, but I would be more inclined to buy into your arguments if there were 2 or 3 years of examples to go from. One year is simply not enough time to know if a coach is going to be a success or not. I mean if you’re going by that, why not blast Cowher because Bettis and Staley were both injured to start the 2005 season, forcing us to start an unproven undrafted free agent name Willie Parker. He never even started in college.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Jun 17, 2008 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess I assumed when Tomlin was hired..

..that he must have some exceptional personal qualities that allowed him to leapfrog other candidates with better resumes and long ties to the organization. So far to me he has seemed very ordinary in terms of his personality. Probably no more ordinary than Russ Grimm or any one of a number of other potential choices, but we were led to expect a lot more.

That said, I know it will take a lot more than “being ordinary” for the team to consider replacing him. I don’t expect it to happen in the forseeable future. It would take an enormous personal screwup on Tomlin’s part.

by robert ethan on Jun 17, 2008 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

My main point

is that it’s too soon to tell. You’re probably right that he could get away with a few 8-8 or 9-7 seasons, at which point, I will probably be ready for a change, too. But, it’s too soon to be making that judgment. For all we know, the team will come together this year, and win the first of 3 or 4 SBs under Tomlin. You just never know until you get a track record.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Jun 17, 2008 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Overrated

Contrary to popular belief, one does not have to be Winston Churchill to be an effective NFL head coach. I love Chuck Noll, but he was terrible as an inspirational, motivational type coach. His players are(were) very up front about that fact. The only area where that hurt him I believe is the fact that he is rarely mentioned among the great coaches in NFL history. That’s a shame b/c among other things he was an absolutely brilliant innovator. The league had to change the rules to cope with his teams. And Tomlin is miles ahead of Noll in the inspiration department.

by Ivan Cole (RickVa) on Jun 17, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Inspiration

Rick is partly knowing when and where to inspire. Noll’s players were really up front about a particular day in late December 1974. The perfect Dolphins, winners of two SB in a row had been upset by the Oakland Raiders in a Divisional Playoff game. The announcers and Raider Coach Madden stated that the best two teams in the NFL had played that day. When the Steelers team gathered before that AFC Championship game the usually stoic Noll looked them in the eye and with his steely glare told them of the quote. That statement is Horse bleep he said to the team. (or something like that) The best team in the NFL is sitting right here in this locker room. Joe Greene has been quoted as saying that the electricity running through that room and the confidence that the team had from that statement motivated them to burst out of the locker room and beat the Raiders into submission at Oakland on route to IX. That game catapulted the Steelers to a dynasty and created a Nation. That may not be the Gipper speech but that sure sounds inspiring to me and at least 45 other guys on the Pittsburgh Steelers 1974 World Championship roster.

When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen

by 5020 on Jun 18, 2008 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

here here

Good point.

I’d bet that Bellicheck, for all his cheating bland bullshi* baggage, can get some men fired up when the time’s right.

TIming. Delivery. When to hold, when to fold. When it’s time to do it, all competitors and ‘real’ people can be inspirational and fired up. When it’s not real, it’s just a matter of whether you can act or be on stage. I don’t care about that anyway. That doesn’t really work with guys with $millions in the bank.

by Michael Bean on Jun 18, 2008 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

It really does seem...

...like those rumblings stopped at some point during last season and, even then, were provided by a really small group of really loud people.

That aside, it does seem weird how eerily similar Cowher and Tomlin were during their first seasons.

by HinesField on Jun 17, 2008 9:39 AM EDT reply actions  

seriously

it definitely is weird, if we didnt have ben or could come up with ints on D, theyd be the same team, statistically.

I haven’t heard too much Tomlin bashing recently, although I DO recall some negative comments about him in comments here. But, it’s too early to tell, but signs are good that Tomlin will at least be a good coach, hopefully great. Arians is on a bit shakier ground, IMO, but Head coaches have the luxury of canning coordinators if they don’t work out.

by tkired on Jun 17, 2008 11:03 AM EDT reply actions  

failure?

You say that so far Tomlin has not failed. I’ll bet that Tomlin would say that the Steelers did not win the Super Bowl, and therefore he did fail.

Even if Tomlin won the SB I’m sure he would say that unless he wins next year as well it will be a failure, and on and on.

Got to love him.

by steelguy99 on Jun 17, 2008 12:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Tomlin

I am really glad to have Mike Tomlin leading the Black and Gold.

IMO, he is just what this team needed and I can see him doing great things for this team and organization. Sure, we may not have had the ‘perfect’ season, but neither did those Patriots* :)

I am proud to call him the Head Coach of my favorite team, the Pittsburgh Steelers!! I just cant wait for the season to start!!!

by k7brown on Jun 17, 2008 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Not 100% sold

on Tomlin. He did make some questionable decisions last season, but with it being his first year i can let that slide. It wasnt like he did a horrible job.

I think he does a great job with the media, and seems to be liked by the players. The whole “not being a great motivator” argument doesnt really fly with me. Every time i saw him on the sidelines he seemed intense and fired up when something big happened. Look at coaches like Belichick and Crennel. They dont seem to motivating to me but their teams did alright. Belichick has the personality of a ball of lint.

If there was one mistake i can point at Tomlin for, was the fact that he overworked the players a little bit causing some late season fatigue. We didnt win the super bowl due to injuries more than inferior coaching. Lets let him get a few years under his belt before we decide whether or not hes the right man for the job.

by SteelerDomination on Jun 17, 2008 5:43 PM EDT reply actions  

The lesson was learned a

and this year he has lowered the number of practices and such. So this guy is learning on the fly. If he becomes a coach that never lets mistakes happen twice, we got a good one big time. Make the mistake once ok, hes learning. Making it twice something is not clicking.

* till next time wave those towels proud

by LiveinDCbutsteelerfanbyheart on Jun 19, 2008 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Amazing!

It was with amazement I read some of the comments on this subject. Ark I thought your blog was not only informational and enlightening, but objective as well. The attacks were just plain bias. I can’t put it any simpler.
Its apparent that some of you were born with the silver spoon in your mouth or have never held a challenging job in the work force that required all the skills necessary to lead an organization to success. The old adage “it dose’nt happen over night” might apply to some of the respondents to this blog. To Mr. Ethan, Its time to get past the dumb stuff. “It is what it is.”
To those of you that recognize that Tomlin is raw and has much more to learn I say…Here We Go Steelers…Here We Go!

by steelersrock08 on Jun 17, 2008 6:04 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

psst… it’s “hear, hear”

by kwoog on Jun 18, 2008 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

whoops

Thanks Officer Miriam Webster :)

I’m amazed I don’t have tons more syntax and grammar errors in my writing. I don’t edit enough the tens of thousands of words that my verbal vomit produces.

by Michael Bean on Jun 18, 2008 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m amazed as well, considering how prolific you are… kudos.

I only said something b/c you used it twice in here (pun intended), and I figured that meant more would be coming…

by kwoog on Jun 18, 2008 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

hehe

Yeah, I’m just joshing. I appreciate you pointing it out. One less way for me to look dumb is always a good thing ;)

by Michael Bean on Jun 18, 2008 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks rock

i was a bit surprised, i didn’t mean anything negative to come out of it. I think some thought that i was talking about peeps on this site, but there were several threads on the cbs boards about firing tomlin. That amazed me, and piqued my curiosity about how his first season stacked up statistically to the other two. Like I said above, i don’t post on boards anymore since finding this site, nothing usually but idiots on them. So I posted my findings here. I gotta admit i regretted it after that, cuz most took it completely wrong. It wasn’t even meant towards robert ethan. I just wanted to vent about what i read. But thanks for taking it the way it was intended.

by steelerark on Jun 18, 2008 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great Post

Ark, don’t get down because of my misperception of your evidence in support of your argument (we agree) or other’s assessment of your opinion. By all means don’t “not post” because some may disagree or ridicule. On this post some may disagree but looking at the comments above no one was mean spirited or disrespectful. (although you found my observation “offensive” it wasn’t my intent)

Look at how many comments you generated on such a short diary entry during the off season. This was a fun post to participate in and you should never hesitate to post your thoughts just as I will never hesitate to comment on a post that I find interesting.

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by 5020 on Jun 19, 2008 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

no worries...

Subsequent posts have made me understand where you were coming from, and in rereading my own post, I can see where it could have been misconstrued. I just didn’t see it that way since I idolize Noll so much. I was shocked that you read it the way you did. But don’t worry, I’m much to bull-headed(I am Irish after all) to let someone stop me from posting here. This site has been my home for nearly 3 years now, and that won’t change. :)

by steelerark on Jun 19, 2008 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

On Point!

It was no problem in defending your post. It was on point and very good. For what its worth, once upon a time I actually got paid for writing news and sports in a television format. I was also editor and chief of a college rag. Keep up your good work. It is appreciated.

Additionally, Tomlin did a very good job in his 1st season IMO. I’ve been watching Steeler football since the Buddy Parker era. Bill Austin, Mike Nixon, Noll, Cowher, and now Tomlin. The Rooney’s have been doing a good job of getting it right since Noll took the helm. Tomlin is just beginning what I believe will be a very good and satisfying coaching career. He will make his share of mistakes along the way. Crap it took Cowher 15 years to win a Super Bowl! That was too long in my book. I’m saying right here, right now, Tomlin will have the 6th ring within the next 4 seasons if some of you people afford him that opportunity.

by steelersrock08 on Jun 19, 2008 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Opportunity

Agree that it took Cowher way too long to learn about “playing to win” as opposed to “playing not to lose” in a playoff game. Always liked him though. My defense to those that wanted him fired was always “Fine. Who you gonna hire? Parcells? Shanahan?”
Like Tomilin too, so far. Feel he’s young and raw and has lots to learn but I too trust the Rooney’s and the Steelers organization. Those that don’t like the choice just have a different opinion and that is OK by me. It is the American way. We are not living in George Orwell’s 1984 and while I don’t agree with RE it is his right to feel that way.
Regarding Tomlin getting us a 6th ring in the next 4 seasons “If some of you people afford him that opportunity” I didn’t know RE worked for the Steelers. I don’t think “us” people here have anything to do with what Tomlin accomplishes. It’s up to Tomlin and the FO. we are just the fan base.

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by 5020 on Jun 19, 2008 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clarification

Thanks. I feel I need to clarify a couple of things if I may.
People certainly have a right to their own opinions. I certainly value mine. I have a tremendous passion for the Steelers and the game. However, having read some of RE’s negative or better said “see through” posts in the past on Tomlin’s selection as HC, I suspect other factors are at work. I took offense. If I am wrong then I owe RE my sincere apology and I will offer that if he comes forward to prove me wrong.
My bad that I’m a progressive, positive thinker, who chooses to “get past the dumb stuff” that keeps progress on many fronts in check.

“If some of you people afford him that opportunity” applies to RE’s & others of that mindset.
Tomlin needs the time to put his plan into effect. Once again, It dose’nt happen over nite!”

Regarding that 6th ring…is my enthusiastic support, belief and my opinion which you say is OK by you. Right??? I ask you, was that comment harmful or offensive?

Yes, I hardily agree that what is accomplished is up to Tomlin and the FO. I’m only a long time and proud member of the Mighty Steeler Nation. A lowly fan if you will who loves his team with a passion that is blind to colors other than black and gold. I sincerely hope that I have clarified myself.

by steelersrock08 on Jun 19, 2008 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're OK By Me Rock!

and I hear what you’re saying. Here We Go!

When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen

by 5020 on Jun 19, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good post Ark

Just remember that Steeler Nation has a lunatic fringe that was demanding Noll’s head while he was in the midst of winning four SBs. Some folk just think the grass is greener, you know.

by Ivan Cole (RickVa) on Jun 17, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions  

yah

i just don’t understand it.

by steelerark on Jun 18, 2008 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

What seperates the Steelers

from so many other teams in this league, is the integrity with which the Rooneys have managed this organization in avery difficult buisness.

Allow me to explian.

Every time you open up the newspaper you see a coach getting fired for not producing. We have watched a constant revolving door in so many modern franchises. Amid this mess we have the Steelers who have 2 coaches between 69 and 06. This stands in such stark contrast to the league that we have to ask what is going on. Part of it, no doubt is the amazing success of these two coaches. Part of it however is a commitment on the part of the Rooneys to running their buisness with a steady hand and great class.

I think its one of the reasons we all enjoy being Steeler fans.

Think of all the yelling there was for Chowers head throughout his career. People said he couldn’t win the big game, that his style was antiquated – etc.

In the end he got them a ring and will be remembered as an amazing coach.

Was he perfect? No, far from it. But he had an organization that allowed him to implement his vision and gave him the time and the space to allow it to come together. He rewarded them with a superbowl.

When the Rooney’s chose Tomlin over two great football guys who spent a lot of time in the Steelers they gave two explinations. The loved this guys work ethic and his character. To me those are two ringing endorsments. I am glad that Tomlin will get a chance to work in an organization that has a longterm vision.

by SteelerBuddha on Jun 18, 2008 12:23 AM EDT reply actions  

100% agreed with Buddha

Rooney’s don’t get enough credit. They have a reputation of being too conservative…but their last two coaching took some guts!!

I trust their judgement 100%. No one knew more about Grimm and Whiz and they still chose Tomlin…things that make you go hmmm..

I love Tomlin…absolutely love the guy…he is perfect for us. He will be here a long, long time…

by SteelerMike on Jun 18, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Grimm

Grimm also didn’t get any other HC job, so maybe he’s just not a HC. I wish he was still our OL coach, though.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Jun 19, 2008 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

He'll get a head job eventually

But you’re probably right his true talent is coaching the OL. I’d love the see the kind of offense he’d install somewhere though. Talk about ‘three yards in a cloud of dust.’

by cgolden on Jun 19, 2008 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

A leader of men

Reading this great thread makes me think about the qualities that makes somebody a good coach and a good leader.

My own experience with leadership has been as an assistant director of a large summer camp for High School students. Obviously there are some big differences but there are also some similarities. Over time these are my thoughts on what it takes to be a good leader. I think there are different ways that these things can be accomplished – which leads in to a whole discussion of leadership styles

A good leader knows how to build a good team. The first thing a good leader does is gather good people around him. One of the hardest things to do in this world is find excellent people to work with. In the camping world this involves finding very talented people who could be making more money doing other things and convincing them to work 16-20 hours a day, for little pay. In football while the money is certainly there, it seems to me that it’s all about finding the right character guys, both in terms of players and in terms of coaches. The best athlete, isn’t always the best team-mate. The smartest guy isn’t always the best coach. You have to find a good balance between individual excellence and the ability to work with others. You have to know how to create a good mix of personalities that compliment one another and allow you to strive for excellence as a team.

This quality applies equally to a leader/coach who inherits a team.

As I said in my previous post, I believe that the FO of the Steelers has done an amazing job of this type of character driven team-building, and a large part of my excitement about Tomlin comes from my faith in the Rooney’s decision making process.

As for grading Tomlin on this process I think its way to early to judge his personnel decisions. Like drafts those decisions will only become clear in a couple of years.

A good leader knows how to keep problems from distracting from the teams agenda.

I think that Tomlin receives very high marks for his ability to do this. Tomlin inherited a ticking time bomb with Faneca. Faneca was a very popular player who was very disgruntled. He had the potential to turn in to a major distraction. Very early on Tomlin was able to build a personal relationship with Faneca that smoothed oout some of the problems that the team faced from Faneca’s unhappiness.

A good leader gains the trust of his people. Again, I give Tomlin very high marks on this. While he came in to a good situation in terms of the level of character that he had on his team, he had a long way to go to gain the trust of his group. He set a tone early. He was very tough on the team but also, from what I’ve heard, very fair and very invested in the players. I think that makes a big difference. We had a very positive locker-room culture all of last year.

A good leader brings out the best from his people. This, I believe is one of the trickiest things about leadership. Leadership in this regard is very often about doing less not more. However its about doing less in a very smart and calculated way, while finding a balance of knowing when to step in. This is one of the places where leadership is much more of an art than a science. How do you get the most of out of your star quarterback or your brilliant Defensive Coordinator? For the most part you just have to get out of their way and let them do what they do best. But that of course, is easier said then done. You have to work together with them to recognize problems before they blow up, you have to give them the tools they need to do what they do well (tall receivers and pass rushing linebackers?).

Again this is a tough thing to judge, but overall, I think that we saw a generally good first year out of Tomlin. His stars (who were not hurt) played inspired football. He kept his important people very happy and productive. You did not hear too much griping about ball distribution or about opportunities. I thought overall that bodes well for his ability to inspire people and bring out there best.

A good leader knows how to make tough decisions that affect people’s lives: This is probably the hardest thing to master and the one that’s ultimately new to Tomlin as a head coach. This is the difference between being an coordinator and a head coach. When you are a head coach the buck stops with you. You have to take responsibility for the decisions made and the decisions not made. This comes out in questions of play calling late in a game, for example the disastrous calls/non-calls in the Jacksonville game. But it also comes out in the decisions on who to start or who to bench, who to pursue in free-agency and who to drop etc.
I think this area has been Tomlin’s weakest so far, but I do not find it surprising. Everything else he has been doing for a while as an outstanding young assistant coach in this league. Making all the tough calls is a different story.

I think in this area we have seen some stumbling from him. I think he was slow in replacing clearly struggling players last year. I think he was not particularly courageous or creative in mixing up his play calling in critical games. I am not sure if you can lay the Max Starks 1 year deal on his door, but it does seem one of the strangest decisions/non-decisions that the Steelers have made in years and I don’t think that he goes entirely without responsibility for allowing it to develop.

Bottom line though, I also see a ton of encouraging things in his decision making during his first year. Most importantly Tomlin knows how to stand behind his decisions while also seeming to learn from his mistakes. I admit that I don’t have actual evidence on this, maybe some of you do, but he seems to have a very flexible mind and seems open to trying things, while not falling into the trap of being wishy-washy or just trying to please everyone.

Anyway, I’ll stop here. I guess, to sum up, part of the reason that I love the game of football (apart from all of the great reasons maryrose listed) is that so many of its lessons apply to life in general.

I have really enjoyed watching Tomlin struggle and grow as a first year coach. I am curious to hear other people’s perspectives on the issue of leadership and the qualities of a leader (both on the field and in other areas of life).

by SteelerBuddha on Jun 19, 2008 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

nice

I’ll go ahead and reccommend that comment. Very thoughtful. Agree on all points.

by Michael Bean on Jun 19, 2008 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Colossal Post!

An excellent perspective of leadership and excellent observations as well. You’re hired!

by steelersrock08 on Jun 19, 2008 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

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