Is Silverback Going to Get a One Game Suspension?

by cgolden on Jun 18, 2008 8:19 AM EDT

First let me say that I can't find this story cited anywhere else, so I'm still a bit skeptical, but this site is pretty reputable so I'll run with it. Over at Scout.com there was a story that said that Cedric Wilson has been suspended for a game for his actions that ultimately led to his release. It's a pretty informal story that is simply titled "NFL Insider Blog," but here's what it says:

Former Pittsburgh Steelers WR Cedrick Wilson has been suspended by the NFL for one game, Scout.com has confirmed.

All 32 teams were made aware of the decision on Monday, according to league sources.

Wilson was released by Pittsburgh back on March 20 after he was charged with simple assault, harassment, and disorderly conduct after allegedly hitting his former girlfriend.

Wilson can still sign with a team and can participate in all off-season and pre-season activities, including games. The one-game suspension will start at the beginning of the regular season.

There's no need to rehash the similarities or differences between Ced's actions and Harrison's actions, but the question has to raised. Anyone think the Steelers are in danger of losing their Pro Bowl OLB for a game? If they do who starts in his place?

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Wasn’t Wilson’s a second offence (or at least a second accusation)? Harrison’s was a first offence. I don’t think Harrison gets a suspension unless he does something else.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Jun 18, 2008 9:30 AM EDT 0 recs

Ced

Well the first offense that you’re talking about I think was when his girl friend shot a gun in his house after they had a (non-physical) fight and he left. Then police had a standoff at his house with her inside. If that counts as a mark against him then yea it was his second offense.

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by cgolden on Jun 18, 2008 11:00 AM EDT up 0 recs

More like second incident then. But, I remember Goodell telling Michael Vick that his name needed to stop coming up in the news. This was before there was any hint of the dog-fighting. It was based on his flipping off the fans and the water bottle with the secret compartment incident. There may have been something to the water bottle, but the police never pressed any charges, so it just went away. Still, Goodell was tired of hearing his name in the news, and at that point, you couldn’t have said anything significant had been found. That’s why I think that Ced is being suspended. Even though the first incident seemed to be more like Ced was the victim, Goodell has frowned on players putting themselves in situations that are negatively newsworthy.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Jun 18, 2008 11:38 AM EDT up 0 recs

very true - - good point

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by cgolden on Jun 18, 2008 11:48 AM EDT up 0 recs

Harrison has a much longer history of confrontations than Wilson..

Ced seems like a choirboy comparitively. I’m not sure of the details of Wilson’s second incident with his (ex) partner, but Harrison had his girlfriend cowering in the bathroom, broke the door down, and attacked her physically. I’m amazed he isn’t in jail as we speak. Where it may seem like a one off incident with the normally mild mannered Wilson, it has been Harrison’s life story basically.

There was a huge double standard at work there. Triple standard, I suppose, if you throw Santonio Holmes into the mix. The level of response by the Steelers to each incident was proportional to that players status with the team. Probably if this particular incident happened with Harrison one year earlier, he would be playing in the CFL by now.

by robert ethan on Jun 18, 2008 5:20 PM EDT 0 recs

what the heck are you talking about?

what history with Harrison? that was his only incident of any kind ever. Holmes wasn’t arrested in Miami either, he was given a ticket for disorderly conduct, which could mean he was drunk and making commotion in a bar. hardly a big deal. the domestic violence charge against Holmes was requested BY THE ACCUSER to be dropped.

by TheMostViolentTeam on Jun 18, 2008 5:48 PM EDT up 0 recs

The reason Harrison went undrafted..

..was his hair trigger temper, to begin with. He set records in college as a rush lineman, but no team wanted to risk a pick on him. Same thing as a pro, he couldn’t get along with teammates on or off the field. He P.O.ed everyone for a couple years in Pittsburgh, got cut, spent a couple weeks with the Ravens, I think, and was promptly cut by them over personality issues, as well. If you asked the Steeler players whether they preferred Wilson or Harrison as a teammate, I doubt that James would get a vote.

by robert ethan on Jun 18, 2008 6:17 PM EDT up 0 recs

he went undrafted

because he’s undersized vastly, and went to a non-major school. show me somewhere where it says he went undrafted because of his temper. thats pure speculation, and ive only ever heard it from you.

by TheMostViolentTeam on Jun 18, 2008 7:13 PM EDT up 0 recs

Harrison

I’d love to know where you found that he ‘set records in college as a rush lineman.’ He’s a whopping third in Kent State history with 15 sacks, so what records did he set exactly?

I’m sure if you asked current Steelers players they’d say that wanted Ced, yea right. They’d prefer a marginal receiver who whined over not getting the ball enough over a Pro Bowler who busted his ass on special teams for 5 years just to get his shot as a starter. That might be the most ridiculous thing you ever said.

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by cgolden on Jun 18, 2008 7:14 PM EDT up 0 recs

Harrison sacked Roethlisberger 5 times in one game..

That has to be a record of sorts. I don’t know the guy personally, and they don’t invite me into the locker room, but I’ve certainly read about Harrison’s difficulties getting along with coaches and teammates in the past. He was an “angry young man”, and when you have an angry young man who can bench press a small automobile, it’s a dangerous combination.

He had his girlfriend terrorized, obviously. She locked herself in the bathroom with a cell phone. He broke down the door and smacked her around a bit. That warrants more than waggling a finger at him and sending him to anger managment courses. If the law wouldn’t act, the Steelers should have. The message they’re sending is so obviously hypocritical, something to the effect of “Don’t break the law unless you have a starting job sewn up.”.

Seigler and Wilson get axed in the time it takes to read and send an E mail. Holmes and Harrison get counseled.

by robert ethan on Jun 19, 2008 1:42 PM EDT up 0 recs

What?

So he should have been drafted b/c he had one game Kent State when he stood out. Are you kidding me? The entire time he was Kent Freaking State (not exactly a collegiate powerhouse) he had 15 sacks. Just because 5 of them came in one game doesn’t mean that he’s all of sudden a sure-fire NFL caliber player.

Do you have a single link that suggests Harrison has had any problems getting along with coaches and teammates in the past or can we put this to bed as you saying something that is purely speculation? If you’ve “certainly read” of his ‘difficulties’ then I’m sure you can find a story about it somewhere out there.

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by cgolden on Jun 19, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up 0 recs

You seem more concerned about Harrison's college career..

...than whether or not it is permissable for a 250 pound gym rat to break through a locked door in order to punch a woman in the face. It’s 6 or 7 years since Harrison “wasn’t drafted”, I don’t know if the stuff I read over that time is still out there. Not much inclined to search at the moment, but I don’t think it takes a great leap of faith to accept that a guy whose nickname is that of a grizzly bear might be a surly dude. Pretty much one look tells you that.

by robert ethan on Jun 19, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up 0 recs

what I'm concerned with

Is your outlandish claim that Harrison has a history of confrontations that not only led to him being undrafted but also led to him being released by both the Steelers and the Ravens. Surely if there is that much a history there, you can find some tangible record of it. I completely understand what he did this off season and fully understand how wrong it was, but I’m not ready to jump to the conclusion that this kind of behavior is basically his “life story” based solely on your unfounded accusations.

Oh and a Silverback isn’t a ‘grizzly bear.’

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by cgolden on Jun 19, 2008 2:58 PM EDT up 0 recs

Your lack of evidence

certainly hurts your credibility in these claims. I’ve never heard of Harrison doing anything negative prior to his incident earlier this year. When the story this year broke, there was no mention in any of the stories that I saw of his history of problems. It really just sounds like you’re making it up. If you’re going to make these claims, you need to become more inclined to search for that evidence.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Jun 20, 2008 11:34 AM EDT up 0 recs

If you ignore Rooney’s stupid comments trying to justify the double standard, the moves make perfect sense. There’s only one standard: one arrest (and case dismissal) in which no one was killed and in which there is no evidence of it being a long continuous crime isn’t enough to get a player cut. Wilson was an overpaid backup, Seigler was a practice squadder arrested for running a prostitution ring, and their arrests pushed them over the edge. Harrison on the other hand, hasn’t gotten into trouble before this off-season, and he led our team last year in tackles, sacks, turnovers, and dirty looks. He was recognized by his teamates and the AP with numerous awards, and oh, he makes doodley-squat. He was about as far from the edge as you can get before the incident, so of course they’re going to give him more chances. Maybe he should get suspended for a game, but let’s stop acting like anyone actually thinks he should get cut.

by BadMaafala on Jun 19, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up 0 recs

"'spent a couple weeks with the Ravens, I think, and was promptly cut by them over personality issues"

I’d like to know how you get cut from the ravens for “personality issues”. They’re more like a gang than a team.

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Jun 19, 2008 8:10 AM EDT up 0 recs

Harrison punched a kitten in the throat, too

I swear, I saw it.

by BadMaafala on Jun 19, 2008 10:00 AM EDT up 0 recs

MVP

He was voted MVP by the team if I recall correctly. Big Ben had a record setting year for Steelers QBs and harrison won MVP. I’d say they must like him ok.

by Chicago Steeler on Jun 19, 2008 10:17 AM EDT up 0 recs

Wow. He said it, not me!

by kwoog on Jun 18, 2008 6:15 PM EDT up 0 recs

Harrison

only has a history of assaulting drunk Browns fans who run onto the field. :-) sorry kwoog, had to bring that up. made such classic video.

by TheMostViolentTeam on Jun 18, 2008 6:17 PM EDT up 0 recs

Haha, agreed.

Here’s the dude’s comments afterwards… I’ve never seen this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fC3xNSiRTDc

by kwoog on Jun 19, 2008 10:23 AM EDT up 0 recs

I'd like to see your 'history of confrontations' on Harrison too

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by cgolden on Jun 18, 2008 6:16 PM EDT up 0 recs

Harrison History Vs. Wilson Reality

James Harrison is a stud. I have not read about him being a malcontent or a criminal except for the incident talked about above. This must be where those Tomlin “voices” came from.
I also don’t know what is Standard Operating Procedure with NFL players. I know they have an agent but do any keep a lawyer on retainer as well? I know for a fact Ced Wilson did. Paul Goltz a Pittsburgh attorney has been Wilson’s lawyer on retainer for several years. I know Goltz because I played softball with him (still do when I return to Pittsburgh for a week in the summer) and his name was mentioned in the paper on Ced’s last arrest as “Ced Wilson’s lawyer Paul Goltz was out of the country and unavailable for comment.” Why does Ced have a lawyer on retainer if he is such a good citizen?
FYI, Goltz can’t hit to right field and constantly pulls everything to left. We shift everyone to the 3rd base side of the diamond when he bats!

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by 5020 on Jun 19, 2008 10:52 AM EDT 0 recs