Steelers Question of the Week: Heinz Field
After a few games in which the weather was terrible last season, (namely the Steelers-Dolphins primetime matchup), there was a lot of talk about the safety of the turf at Heinz Field. This sparked a debate among analysts and fans alike about weather or not something should be done about the state of the grounds at Heinz Field. With that said, do you think anything should be done to address the poor field conditions at Heinz Field, or do you think that the players just need to "suck it up" and play, regardless of the conditions? If something should be done, what is it that needs to take place in order to better the Steelers home turf?
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One man's opinion
It’s pretty obvious from some of my stories that I am a great fan of tradition. I love Heinz Field. What makes football unique from other sports is that it can be played outside of an antiseptic environment. The perfectly-fake grass and domed fishbowls take away a dimension of football that makes it great. Football is a game of overcoming adversity. Part of that is mother nature. Same for both teams.
I was at the Dolphins game and I enjoyed every minute. Yes, once in a while everything bad happens at once like last year. Tremendous rain, high school games, University of Pitt and the re-sod. Once in a blue moon you find yourself in unique conditions. But you shouldn’t change everything because one time we had an extreme experience.
I applaud the Steelers for keeping the course and not knee-jerking into artificial turf after one difficult game. If the Indy Colts can have home field advantage with their plastic surgeon bubble, then the Steelers can have an advantage in a mud bath. Part of why I love football was being in that stadium for the Dolphins game.
I also applaud the Steelers for continuing to allow the high school playoff games. This organization always did understand the huge love affair with its community. The Rooneys continue to be very special in so many ways. Heinz Field is one of them.
by maryrose on Jun 29, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
100% Agreed
I love the field conditions at Heinz!!! That is what football is all about – tough conditions, rain, snow, rough and rugged – that’s how I like it. I thought the dolphins/steelers game was highly entertaining last year – even greater because you don’t see poor conditions too much anymore. I thought Fred Taylor’s comments were a joke – ‘someone is going to sue’. I think he forgot that he signed a contract for millions of dollars – rough conditions are part of the game. I can’t wait until we get some home field in the next few years and we get to throw down in the snow!!!
by smashmouthsteel on Jun 30, 2008 12:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
question
Good question and agree with both the comments of rose and smash.
Question though: do you think that it’s possible that the organization changes the turf in order to help out Big Ben and the passing game? If he were to make that request, wouldnt they do it, having invested that much money in him in the first place?
by Blitzburgh on Jun 30, 2008 12:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Big Ben's request
I think economically, if you’re going to spend 100 million plus on a franchise quarterback, what’s another little bit of chump change gonna cost you to redo the turf at Heinz Field. This is not to say that the team is at the mercy of Ben, but I think if it was going to help the Steelers as a team, then it would be a worth while investment.
Steve
by SteveMeredith on Jun 30, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just think they need to schedule better. I don’t see why they need to have pitt games and like 3 high schools games in the same weekend before a home game. Just schedule that crap around Steelers games. The Steelers are only there 1/2 of the time anyway. It’s not that hard.
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
by showtime on Jun 30, 2008 7:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My take
I agree with the comments about above football being a game that centers on overcoming adversity and playing in ‘less than favorable conditions’ but that game was a joke. If they don’t change the playing surface, which it seems obvious that they aren’t, they should make a conscious effort to schedule better. If they want to continue to host 4 or 5 games in a weekend, they should resurface the field so that it will hold up better.
Just imagine if the Dolphins would have kicked the lone field goal in that game. The Browns would have won the North, gone to the playoffs, and the Steelers would have watched from home. All because the Steelers lost a mud fight with the hapless Dolphins.
by cgolden on Jun 30, 2008 8:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A bit overdramatic, eh?
If the Dolphins managed to win that one, it would have meant we were actually playing for something on Week 17.
by HinesField on Jun 30, 2008 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah...
That game was boring and hard to watch (although I’m sure it would have been awesome to be there for it). I like the elements coming into play, but that was over the top. I would be okay with field turf or just working out a system of scheduling and grass maintenence that kept that game from happening. I’d hate to tell the HS’s to scram, but that’s a lot of football being played in a short time. They have to figure something out.
I will say that though the field may not be to Ben’s advantage, on average, it is a significant advantage for Jeff Reed vs. most other kickers. I love when a team drives down the field with time running out to attempt a 45 yard field goal, knowing that it has no chance.
by BadMaafala on Jun 30, 2008 10:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, one, the complaints weren’t about “conditions.” Rain or snow or wind or loud domes are conditions. This was negligent and unsatisfactory maintenance of the surface of play, comparable to making them play in an ice rink, or digging a few wholes/traps and covering them w/ bamboo shoots. It wasn’t a problem w/ the “conditions.” That game was a joke.
I’m all for the “community” aspect, so as an outsider I’m not going to say, “stop scheduling 10 games in 11 days”, thus denying high schoolers the chance to play there. But as someone said, they either have to find a more reasonable schedule , or there should be no choice but to go (back to) turf.
Besides, it will go well with your new high flying, skill position oriented, line-ignoring style of play! ;)
by kwoog on Jun 30, 2008 10:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
meh
I was also at the Miami game last year. And let’s be fair here… That was unusual, more than unusual. That was a once a decade kind of happenings that led to one of the sloppiest games ever. A bad decision was made putting the sod on top of sod when more rain could (and did) come.
Big Ben and the offense played pretty damn well on that turf the past 4 years. I don’t think putting carpet down really aids that. And it goes against the defense we’ve built. We’ve built a defense that shuts down the run and doesn’t allow big plays. That’s perfect for Heinz’s mud.
And Jeff Reed rocks on that surface. It’s amazing what a home field advantage it is for the kicking game.
by Chicago Steeler on Jun 30, 2008 12:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My take
If our players demand a change, then I agree, let’s make some change. Otherwise, it’s fricking football, guys. They’re supposed to play in the mud sometimes. I thought that all those ESPN types complaining about the field conditions were ridiculous. That Miami game reminded me of a thowback game, and it was kinda nice. As Chicago Steeler said, it happened once. It’s not like it’s been 5 straight years of horrible Heinz Field conditions. I don’t remember this type of complaining after the fog bowl in Chicago, or when old Candlestick Park would get soggy because it was built below sea level.
by WolfpackSteelersFan on Jun 30, 2008 2:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well
I just think that its a little stupid to let all of those games take place on a field that struggles under wet conditions. Yeah i think its kind of an advantage in a way for us, but that Miami game was just sad. Its the Steelers field and should be kept in tip top shape for them to play on, not some high school or college team. I dont think they should change the surface, just dont let anyone that wants a pick up game to destroy the grass. I might add that its going to be nice to have a big grind it out back now in Mendenhall for those types of games.
by SteelerDomination on Jun 30, 2008 7:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Except it's not the Steelers' field.
The stadium cost about $280 million, of which the Steelers contributed about $75 million and Heinz paid $57 million (naturally) for naming rights.
Does anyone remember the exact nature of the politics that led to these fields (Heinz and PNC) even being built? I distinctly remember a bond issue being voted down by city residents and the stadium getting built anyway, though I can’t dig up any news articles on it; all this happened before I moved there, anyway, so I don’t remember the exact details. Did they end up with some explicit agreement that the stadium be used for Pitt and the HS Championships as well?
by HinesField on Jul 1, 2008 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah...
Pretty sure you’re right. It was built with the explicit agreement that it would be for the city and that the high school games and college games would have rights to it as well.
by Chicago Steeler on Jul 1, 2008 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just read about it in Dan Rooney's book
It didn’t go into great detail, but Dan Rooney’s book said that that Steelers worked out some deal where part of it was public money (maybe just from the state, not the city), part of it was money that the Steelers borrowed from the NFL and are still paying back, and then, as you said, Heinz kicked in their portion.
But, yeah, as far as the HS playoff games and Pitt playing, there must be a contract involved. The Rooneys wanted to allow HS games and they wanted help out Pitt in the deal as well, so it’s not just because of the contract. The family wants that community connection as well.
by WolfpackSteelersFan on Jul 1, 2008 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Protect the game!!!
Let’s face it: Football is dirty, dangerous, and damn good! I can appreciate the fact that in many regaurds the league needs to protect the investment that owners are making in the players (i.e. keeping them safe) however; I don’t believe that football is a game that needs to be played on artificial turf that provides ideal conditions for every game. This is not golf. The condition of the field SHOULD be subject to elements, and when those elements become extreme: let the best team win. Isn’t that why Three Rivers was NOT replaced by a dome? I’m a Steelers fan like all of you, and I say we send a message to the league- Protect the GAME!!!
by vogelson on Jun 30, 2008 9:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
funny you used golf as an example
being a big golf fan… I never though the field in golf is ever ideal. Dont you hear players always saying the greens are faster or slower than the day before.. Its because mother nature is always the 3rd team every sport is playing against in outdoor sports.
* till next time wave those towels proud
by LiveinDCbutsteelerfanbyheart on Jul 1, 2008 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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