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Tempers Flare At Steelers OTAs

This always tends to happen and as Coach Tomlin says it's probably a 'necessary evil.' As tough as competition is in the NFL, tempers are going to flare up and fights will break out and that was the case yesterday as two separate bouts broke out while the Steelers were at their indoor practice facility. The participants were Willie Colon and Lawrence Timmons in the first showdown and Trai Essex and Arnold Harrison in the second. Neither scuffle amount to much and were over nearly as soon as they started. After practice Coach T talked about the scuffles:

"Practice broke out into a fight," said head coach Mike Tomlin afterwards. "You know, the competition is good, but the level of intensity has to be there if we want to get better.

"You have to understand professional etiquette; that's what we talked about after practice. These kinds of things have to happen as we develop our football team because it gives us a venue to address them, and why we do what it is that we do and how we approach what it is that we do.

"You don't like to see it happen, but it's a necessary evil. I'm glad that it happened, we addressed it and move on."

  • In some actual football related news, Larry Foote sat out yesterday with a sore neck and that of course means that Timmons took all the reps the first group. I've always been a Foote fan but I really hope that Timmons can beat him out this preseason.
  • Jim Wexell has been giving some pretty detailed OTA reports and some of the news encouraging and some it 'head-scratching' to say the least. I keep trying to move past the OL, but I just couldn't help myself when he mentioned that with the return of Marvel Smith yesterday, the starting lineup was Smith, Chris K, Mahan, Stapleton and Colon (Simmons isn't practicing yet). For what it's worth it looks like the starting five is different almost every day, but for what it's worth, when Mahan is there he runs with the first group. I did find one practice that had Essex running at guard though so it looks like they're trying to throw as much as they can against the wall and we'll see what sticks.
  • There's also random notes of various players who have looked good at one time or another. Dallas Baker is a name that is in every report for either making a great catch or beating William Gay deep. Travis Williams (undrafted corner from East Carolina) is a youngster that Wexell thinks is worth keeping an eye on. He's also excited about Moore's versatility (compares to Kevin Faulk) and says the 10 pounds that Russell put on seem to help him quite a bit. Don't worry though Wexell also mentions how 'studly' Mendenhall looks at everything he's done so far. In addition to Simmons and Foote sitting out Ryan McBean, Deshea Townsend, Traivs Kirschke, Najeh Davenport, Willie Parker and Santonio Holmes were all sidelined with various bumps and bruises. It too early for someone to seriously worry about their job but if I was Davenport I don't think I'd let some minor bump/bruise keep me from the field considering all the praise we're hearing on the younger backs.
  • In an earlier practice from last week, Timmons talks about LeBeau's new wrinkle for the dime defense that includes Timmons and Farrior as the inside backers. During that same practice they worked on punt returns with the returners going in this order: Reid, Moore, Holmes, Marion, Bloom, and Travis Williams. Wexell also mentions Tony Hills getting beaten badly by Silverback, although that's a heck of an assignment for the rookie. Anthony Smith is working at strong safety behind Tyrone Carter while Grant Mason is taking the second string reps at free safety behind Clark.

Thoughts about OTA's so far? Anyone run across any other news?

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I ran across a video (that you can watch here) that left me pretty perplexed. The Las Vegas PD was simulating crashes involving multiple vehicles and also accidents involving a pedestrian earlier this week, but for some reason they but a Ben Roethlisberger jersey on the pedestrian. I don't know what was more off setting, the idea that putting a jersey on a crash test dummy or the reporters skating around the mention of it.

 

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The last two years I’ve read many articles with someone saying that Colon would be better suited at guard. However, it doesn’t seem that the Steelers believe this. I would like to see more of Starks at RT. It would be nice to get Starks back to playing how he was in 2005 at RT when he was a major force in the running game.

So until proven otherwise, we should assume that the starting OL is going to have Colon at RT unless he is beaten out by Starks, in which he becomes the 2nd string RT. That is, I don’t think he is moving to guard any time soon.

Also, the fact that Mahan is still starting is disheartening, to say the least.

by Cols714 on Jun 5, 2008 2:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Starks

I always thought he would make a fantastic guard as well, as he is an excellent drive and run blocker. But Colon definitely seems to be a bit too cumbersome for a tackle and I think he would also make an excellent guard. Couldn’t read those articles as I don’t have a Scout membership but OTA’s sound like they are going well. The fact Tomlin planned a short training camp might mean he thinks this team is already in good shape and has a good grasp of what we want to do.

by TheMostViolentTeam on Jun 5, 2008 2:55 PM EDT reply actions  

scout membership

I had never had one until just recently because I was really “jonesing” for some insider OTA news. It was only $7 bucks for a month so I figured that would get me through the OTAs. He does nearly a full article on each practice so it’s not bad. I’ll start posting his write ups in quotes more often. Some of it is pretty good.

I continue to be dumbfounded as to why they refuse to let Colon even practice at guard. So far Essex, Stapleton and Hartwig have all practiced there but Colon can’t get a single snap. It’s almost starting to seem like something they’re doing for principle.

by cgolden on Jun 5, 2008 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

They are not going to use Colon as a guard

They don’t let Colon practice at guard because they don’t think he’s a guard. I’d love to be wrong about this, but until proven otherwise, I think we should stop speculating that Colon will move to guard.

And they have stated numerous times that Starks is not a guard.

by Cols714 on Jun 5, 2008 3:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Not as concerned

In my mind it would be hard to justify making major position changes during what are in essence non contact drills. I would expect that those moves will come during training camp or during the preseason.

by Ivan Cole (RickVa) on Jun 5, 2008 3:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Mahan = Boo!

I’m just not very interested in another year with Sean Mahan at center. I would love to see Hartwig plugged in until Stapleton is ready to step in. I want Big Ben to succeed and I don’t believe that Mahan puts him in that position.

by smashmouthsteel on Jun 5, 2008 4:20 PM EDT reply actions  

pretty tasteless of LVPD

In Seattle, so not much time this sec. Thanks though golden for thte posts. I’ll try to jump on in a bit.

by Michael Bean on Jun 5, 2008 4:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Tomlin...(roll eyes)...

“You don’t like to see these it happen, but it is a necessary evil, I’m glad that it happened…”.

After wading through all the dense nonsensical rhetoric up to that point, Mike takes us over the edge.

by robert ethan on Jun 5, 2008 5:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I love it!

I think it’s great that guys get into it at camp – get those competitive juices flowing – really working for a spot.. I wouldn’t quite summarize the rhetoric as either dense, or nonsensical – more yogi ish than anything – quite entertaining.

by smashmouthsteel on Jun 5, 2008 6:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Agree smashmouth

I feel about Tomlin as a coach, the same way I felt about Big Ben as a quarterback the first year. He is young, he has learning to do, but I really love what he brings to the table. He works hard. He’s smart and he has character. You can tell the guys like him, despite his youth. I think as he gets more experience under his belt, he will start making better decisions in some areas as well.

by SteelerBuddha on Jun 5, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Starks $7M won't be on bench

Guys, I have a hard time believing that the front office will pay Starks $7M this year and allow the coaching staff to put him on the bench. That won’t happen. The fact the front office made him the second highest player on the team kind of tells me that he’s going to be in the starting lineup somewhere. And I’m not too concerned about anything else until the pads go on.

A little disappointed that no one from the Steelers attended the McFarland workout. I hope he is still in play because the Steelers have nothing in reserve on the D-line.

by datruth4life on Jun 6, 2008 9:38 AM EDT reply actions  

video

was that bens reenactment? cause wasn’t it a caddy?

by Bereadawg on Jun 7, 2008 3:43 AM EDT reply actions  

The Test Dummy

It’s obvious to me what happened here. Someone is Vegas lost their a** on Super Bowl XL betting on the Sea Chickens. Their only hope for revenge (since Seattle cant handle Steel Town) is to pull a stunt like this. Ben, don’t sue- that’s what they want you to do.

by vogelson on Jun 30, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

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