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Mike Tomlin And His Legendary Predecessors

Experience. In life, it's undeniably necessary. In sports? There's more of a debate to be had. Yesterday, we looked at the career resume of offensive line coach Larry Zierlein. Must of us came away with the impression that despite having a tremendous amount of experience coaching at the college level, and to a lesser extent, at the professional level, not much of that experience yielded productive results either in the win column, or in the stat sheets of the offenses working behind his lines.

Today, I'd like to take a look at Mike Tomlin's coaching resume, while keeping an eye on how the Rooney family has made head coaching decisions with their franchise. There have been some valid points made recently by those who are not quite 100% enthused with the selection of Mike Tomlin as the head coach of this proud franchise. Personnel management, both in game and from week-to-week, suspect challenges, and a few crucial tactical misfires are all valid reasons to have reservations about the 16th head coach in Steelers franchise history.

But, to point to his lack of coaching experience as the primary reason for being skeptical, while still professing faith in the Rooneys and how they do business, is incongruous logic.

Since 1969, when Charles Henry Noll was handed the reigns to the organization, there have been just three head coaches at the helm of the team. Noll, Cowher, and now Tomlin.  All were under the age of 40. And none had head coaching experience. At any level.

Noll embarked on his Hall of Fame coaching career in 1960 as a defensive assistant for the Los Angeles/San Diego Chargers (I believe they became the SD Chargers following the 1960 season). He would spend five years in Southern California before moving on to Baltimore, where he would serve as both a defensive backfield assistant and defensive coordinator for the Colts from 1966-1968.

While with the Chargers, Noll's teams finished in first place atop the AFL Western standings in 1960, 1961, 1963, 1964, and 1965. The defenses he helped coach, twice fielded the best scoring defense in the league ('61 and '63), and only once finished outside the top 3 in the admittedly small AFL. Nevertheless, while building up his experience as a professional football coach, he got results. 

Noll_mediumIn fact, he was so successful that the Baltimore Colts hired him to work with their defense, beginning in 1966. That year, the Colts finished with a solid 9-5 record and the 3rd ranked scoring defense. In 1967, the team compiled an outstanding 11-1 record, and finished the year with the 2nd ranked scoring defense. Though that 11-1-2 record was amazingly not good enough for a playoff berth (the LA Rams edged them out by virtue of a tiebreaker), the head coach of the Colts, Don Shula, was convinced that Noll was ready to be the primary leader of the team's defense.

 In 1968, with Noll as the defensive coordinator, the Colts steamrolled the league, finishing the year 13-1. The defense was historically good, setting an NFL record for fewest points allowed (144). Though the team lost that memorable Super Bowl contest against the New York Jets in the Orange Bowl, the Rooney's had seen enough. He was named the 14th head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers just seventeen days after the Super Bowl, on January 27th, 1969. He was just 37 years old.

 

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When Noll finally called it quits after 23 years of service for the Steelers, the Rooney's emulated the same strategy in their coaching search that they had when identifying Noll as the right man for the job. That is, they looked for a young, defensive oriented football mind. Cowher, like Noll, might not have been the most experienced candidate available, but the Rooney's had already learned that less is sometimes more when it comes to experience as a coach. With experience comes ingrained proclivities and tendencies, and the subsequent possibility for repeat performances of year's past.

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Can you spot the chin, in full bloom
during his high school days in the mid 70s?

Cowher though, despite not being a head coach at any level, had also excelled in his coordinator and assistant roles.  After two years in Cleveland as a Special Teams coordinator, Cowher began coaching the Browns' secondary as of 1987. That year, the Browns sported the 2nd best scoring defense. and the 8th best passing defense. Cowher's secondary's only twice allowed an opposing QB to amass 300 yards. Once to the Cincinnati Bengals, and once to the well-oiled offensive machine of the San Francisco 49ers. The following year, Cleveland fielded the 6th best scoring defense, and the 6th best pass defense. Other than Dan Marino's 400+ yard outburst in Week 16, Cowher's secondary held their opponents under 300 yards passing every week, with only the Oilers eclipsing the 250 yard mark.

Cowher's success in Cleveland prompted the Kansas City Chiefs brass to name him defensive coordinator in 1989. It was Cowher's first breakthrough gig, and he would take the most of it. The Chiefs were coming off a 4-11-1 season in 1988, the year before he arrived. In 1989, the Chiefs improved dramatically, finishing the year 8-7-1, barely missing the playoffs. The Chiefs' defense, which was merely average in '88 (15th in scoring defense), took several important steps forward, giving up nearly two fewer points per game, and finishing the year with the 8th best scoring defense.

In 1990, the Chiefs continued to improve, finishing 11-5, making the playoffs, and improving their defense even more. That year, the Chiefs surrendered just 257 points, good for 5th best in the league. So, in just two years, the Chiefs shaved 63 points off their allowed season total, improved their record by 7 games, and were on the brink of making some playoff noise. In Cowher's final year in KC, the Chiefs couldn't get past the upstart Bills in the Divisional Round of the AFC playoffs, but again the team was consistent on defense, finishing the year having allowed just 252 points. Cowher, despite his youth and lack of experience, had taken advantage of his early opportunities in the league. By doing so, he positioned himself as a fresh, young and successful defensive mind. Some owners might have wanted to see more, but for the Rooney's they had seen enough to take the risk on him, before others might snatch him up in the forthcoming years.

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Though it took several cracks at it, the Rooney's instincts were correct. Cowher, like his predecessor Noll, led the Steelers to the promised land.

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Enter Mike Tomlin. Tomlin, unlike Noll and Cowher who were both players, albeit for a very short amount of time, had to get his start at the collegiate level.  At just 23 years of age, he would serve as the wide receivers coach at the Virginia Military Institute. He would finish the decade at the University of Cincinnati, with previous stops at Arkansas State and the University of Memphis.

Let's take a second here to remember the symmetry of how Tony Dungy and Mike Tomlin got their first opportunity's as coaches in the National Football League. For Dungy, that opportunity was bequeathed by none other than Chuck Noll. For Mike Tomlin, that opportunity came from Dungy. 

This was no ceremonial hire though. Dungy's Buccaneers were on the cusp of breaking through and competing for a Super Bowl, following years and years of futility. In 2000, the Bucs finished a respectable 10-6 and made the playoffs. Their pass defense was good, but not great, finishing that year with the 13th ranked pass defense.

In 2001, Tomlin's first year as DB coach, the Bucs finished 9-7, and the pass defense improved to 5th. In 2002, the Bucs fielded the best  scoring and pass defense in the NFL, and in just year two of his professional coaching career, Tomlin and the Bucs would hoist the Lombardi Trophy. Though the Bucs would regress collectively in 2003 and 2004, missing the playoffs both years, it wasn't because of the defense, and certainly not because of the pass defense that Tomlin helped coordinate. Those units finished 3rd and 1st in the league in pass defense respectively.

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After a very impressive five year run in Tampa, the Minnesota Vikings came calling in the 2006 offseason. New head coach Brad Childress wanted Tomlin to coordinate his defense. It was a fine selection, as the Vikings finished the year 8th in overall defense. Oddly enough, they finished the year with the top rush defense and the worst passing defense. Clearly those two results are by-products of each other - if you can't stop the pass, why run? And if you can't run, why keep trying? Nevertheless, the Vikes improved from 19th to 14th in scoring defense, again extending Tomlin's short but undeniably sound track record of helping teams improve immediately upon his arrival.

 

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It's time to wrap this up, but I'll finish by quickly saying that I count my lucky stars that the ownership of the team I love avoids hiring recycled, mediocre, insiders as head coach of the Steelers. There's no need to name names, but everytime there's a coaching vacancy, certain folks will be mentioned on the short list of potential candidates.

As is often the case in various aspects of business and life, the Steelers find value by contemplating what everybody else is doing, and then sprinting in the other direction. It's the commitment to trusting their instincts, not being afraid to take a chance on the guy they've identified as the right man for the job, and acting before it's too late, even if it means taking a chance on a coach with less experience than the media and other owners would lead one to believe is necessary. Then, perhaps most importantly, they allow their coach to grow and evolve over time.  All of these things are what make the Rooneys special and so successful in not only this endeavor, but in their countless other ventures in Pittsburgh and around the country.

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I think the Rooneys are less about the resume than about the interview. When Cowher and Tomlin were hired they interviewed people with longer and better resumes, but I think in each case the younger, less experienced guy, won them over with a superior interview. Both times, I think that the Rooneys recognized that they had something a little bit different than the normal retread hire and also something that could be special.

There is more to being a head coach than just being a good X and O guy.

by Cols714 on Jul 1, 2008 2:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

true that

Good points, but I was trying to present some data to show that despite not having LONG resumes, all three of them had VERY successful stints in the league at a very young age.

by Blitzburgh on Jul 1, 2008 2:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

but still

Agree. Those interviews are where Cowher and Tomlin had a chance to make a case for themselves, despite not having the most impressive resume

by Blitzburgh on Jul 1, 2008 2:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good people are going to do good things

The Rooneys seem to feel that better than most. Dan was frustrated for many years because his father hired the popular guys and the resume guys. The last resume guy that the Steelers hired as head coach was Bill Austin, who came as a coordinator of the great Green Bay Packers at their peak in 1966. He was a disaster. I am guessing that Dan vowed from then on never to hire another resume, and to hire the best person in spite of resume. Your points are well-taken Blitz. I’d much rather have the short resume on the way up than the Norv Turner guys. It seems to have served us well in the last 40 years.

by maryrose on Jul 1, 2008 2:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hey rose

Who were the other ‘leading candidates’ when Cowher was chosen? Were there some assistants who everyone liked (ie Whiz/Grimm)?

by cgolden on Jul 1, 2008 2:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

cgolden

Mean Joe was an assistant under Noll and a candidate when Cowher was hired.

by steelheel on Jul 1, 2008 4:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yea

The leading candidate was Joe Greene. I expound more on this later on so I won’t be redundant.

by maryrose on Jul 2, 2008 9:28 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dave Wannstedt

was the third of 3 finalists interviewed.

When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen

by 5020 on Jul 2, 2008 9:38 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great points

I would also add that hiring the “legend” is usually unsuccessful (almost always). How many great coaches with multiple championships have gone on to win championships in their next job? None that I know of. Lombardi didn’t, Hank Stram, Parcells (although he was close in NE), Holmgren (close again :)), Seifert (probably cost his place in the HOF). Some of them had some success in improving the teams they went to, but none were able to win the big one. As you said, ‘rose, the Steelers tried that too, with Buddy Parker (again just read that in Dan Rooney’s book), who had won championships with the Lions.

It’s always better to get the next great coach, not the one everyone already thinks is great.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Jul 1, 2008 3:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ditka, Dungy

"Damnit mom! You almost ran over Greg Lloyd!"

at an autograph signing back in 95. He walked out in front of our minivan, and my mom almost hit him. He apologized.

by PA ARMY OFFICER on Jul 2, 2008 9:35 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oops, misread your questions

I thought you were speaking to the hiring of Joe Greene, at first.

"Damnit mom! You almost ran over Greg Lloyd!"

at an autograph signing back in 95. He walked out in front of our minivan, and my mom almost hit him. He apologized.

by PA ARMY OFFICER on Jul 2, 2008 9:39 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well said Blitz

Reading that makes it even more clear why the Rooney’s may have chosen Tomlin over the more popular Whiz and/or Grimm. They seem to favor defense minded coaches who are up-and-coming.

I, for one, am very glad that the Steelers don’t look at the same type of candidates as the rest of the league. Defense wins championships and that’s what the Rooney’s seem to value.

by cgolden on Jul 1, 2008 2:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just goes to show

how awesome it has been to be a Steelers fan. 3 coaches since 1969! Unreal. How many fans of the other teams would love to say that.

by steelerark on Jul 1, 2008 2:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agree here

The 3 coaches since 69 is also another reason why the Steelers never have had very bad years. Our worst record since 1970 is 5-11. That is a VERY good record when talking about your worst record in 37 years. Every team has a few of those ugly 1-13, 3-13, 2-14 years except for the Steelers.

But point is that since we do not change coaches every team we have a down year like some teams, is a good thing because with a new coach usually comes changes to both the FO and playing styles and schemes. But out Steelers have had basically the same style(run first, good agressive defense) since the 70’s

by jason97673 on Jul 1, 2008 2:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, but it helps that the Steelers were hiring the right guys.

by Cols714 on Jul 1, 2008 2:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As Always,

Very solid article. My only question of Tomlin’s resume comes from him only having one year as DC in Minny, and that one being unspectacular. That’s great that he can coach DB’s, but can he call plays and run a defense? A team? Not sure from the resume. It’s a different game working with 53 players as opposed to being under 2 other coaches and working with 10. We’ll see what happens over time.

by BadMaafala on Jul 1, 2008 2:49 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thanks

I don’t think he’s a Monte Kiffin or Dick LeBeau type defensive mind, but I also wouldn’t say that his year in Minny was poor. You used the word unspectacular, which is fair. I would object to it being called bad or mediocre however. The rush defense was amazingly good, and even though teams might have tried to pass more against them, it’s a run-first league. He did some nice things in his first year there.

by Blitzburgh on Jul 1, 2008 2:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Worst pass D and best run Defense

Just wanted to comment on this. They do go side by side with each other. But the worst pass D was simply because the Run D he had in Min was historically one of the best ever. So teams threw the ball on them 599 times, 18 more times then any other team.

Alot of people like to simply look at yards allowed through the air and they see it is the most in the league and say his pass d was horrible. If you look at the other numbers(Comp %, YPA, TDs/INTs) his pass D ranks about the middle of the pack.

by jason97673 on Jul 1, 2008 3:01 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

follow up thought to that jason

This post was too long to delve into any real statistical analysis of the coaches. I provided the most cursory statistics at my disposal to prove their solid performances and improvements, but I would definitely acknowledge that that aspect of the write up was not as fleshed out as possible.

But, I don’t think that was really the point. Just wanted to show that all three had short resumes, all three got instant results as coordinators, and all three were nabbed by Rooneys sooner than most would have expected them to be head coaches.

I am personally curious to take a closer look at that defense of Minny some day. very interesting defensive year for that team.

by Blitzburgh on Jul 1, 2008 3:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I take back my comment

Here’s a quick look Minny’s D right before and with Tomlin:

total yds      run yds         pass yds      pts             rush avg   qb rating   
2005 323.3 (21) 115.1 (19) 208.3 (22) 21.5 (19) 4.0 (17) 75.2 (10)

2006 300.2 (8) 61.6 (1) 238.6 (31t) 20.4 (14) 2.8 (1) 73.1 (5)

After looking at these numbers, one can’t help being impressed with the changes. Obviously the run defense went from mediocre to historically good in one year, even though both DT’s stayed the same and were fairly healthy. The pass defense gave up a ton of yards, but interestingly enough, they were top 5 in pass defense. This defense was very efficient, giving up 2.8 yards per running play and a 73.1 rating to opposing QB’s. That’s pretty fantastic. The only knock is how many points they gave up, which was right in the middle of the pack. Their offense could have had something to do with that, though.

Basically, you can see the same type of turnaround that you saw with the defenses under Cowher and Noll. I retract my earlier comment that this year was unspectacular. It wasn’t fantastic, but it was pretty damn good.

Because of the talk of “letting LeBeau loose”, we may also not be giving him enough credit for the improvements in our defense last year. With a couple exceptions involving idiot safeties, we didn’t give up many big plays. Despite all the injuries we had, we went from being 12th in the league in scoring to 2nd, and 9th to 1st in yardage. We did have an easy schedule, but we shut down some good offenses like Cleveland, Cinci, and Seattle when we had the chance. As a defensive coach in the mold of Cowher, Noll and Dungy, I’m willing to say Tomlin can succeed. He still has some work to on being a gameday head coach, he needs to get the team to play more consistently, and I’d like to see him find some young assistants, but I have to say, there’s no reason to think our defense will go down the tubes any time soon.

by BadMaafala on Jul 1, 2008 5:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

whoa

those stats didn’t turn out right. the columns are: year, total yards, rushing yards, passing yards, points, rush avg, QB rating.

by BadMaafala on Jul 1, 2008 5:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

niec

thanks for doing that. I didnt have time, but I thought that his tenure in Minny should be labeled just as you said, not fantastic, but pretty damn good.

by Blitzburgh on Jul 1, 2008 5:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This article is an example of why I love this site

Whenever we get a few off the wall comments about our coaches/players, criticizing them, Blitzburgh or someone will go and check the validity of those criticisms. Then we get a well-reasoned, factually backed discussion about how valid or invalid those criticisms are.

This one had an added bonus with the historical content (as well as a picture Cowher may hope his girls never see :)).

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Jul 1, 2008 3:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol

Was hoping somebody would notice that rad picture :) All he needed was a mustache to round off the look.

by Blitzburgh on Jul 1, 2008 3:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

Amazing that he found his moustache so late in life. Instead of rocking it in the 70’s like many others he waited for the 90’s as it fell out of style. Nice work Chin.

by Chicago Steeler on Jul 1, 2008 4:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It was a vanity move on the part of the Rooneys..

..if Whisenhunt or Grimm succeeded Cowher as seemed reasonable, they wouldn’t get any attention. It would be perceived as Cowher’s decision in hiring his successor to preserve continuity. By going “off the charts”, those deformed little men cackling with glee up in their counting house, (while the peasants toil in the steel mills), get the spotlight shone on them for a bit. Like buying a house in an upscale neighbourhood and painting it purple and pink. Or raising chickens in the back yard. Just because YOU CAN.

If they were really daring or innovative, and wanting to make social commentary, why some short, fat, bland, dour, balding, 35 going on 60, low level career football coach. Why not a 22 year old female who just graduated top of her class in business administration, (or law, or sports medicine) from the U of Pittsburgh? Or the recently fired coach of the Italian World Cup team? Or the guy who survives Donald Trump’s rudeness?

by robert ethan on Jul 1, 2008 4:08 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What?

Do you really think the Rooney’s would act out of vanity with regards to their franchise? I don’t think so. I think they were overwhelmed by Tomlin, realized they had a history of going with young upcoming assistant coaches, realized that this strategy had served them well twice before, and made the smart decision.

I’m pretty sure they were doing what they felt was the best for the team, not trying to be daring or innovative or making social commentary.

by Cols714 on Jul 1, 2008 4:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Vanity?

My goodness the Rooneys are far beyond vanity. I think they are smart enough to know how important the bottom line is in this business. They are going to make whatever moves they feel necessary toward that end. To the contrary, the easy way out would have been Whiz or Grimm. The last two vanity moves were Bill Austin and Buddy Parker. Those days are gone.

That said, I am not projecting Tomlin into the Hall of Fame by any means. I was very disappointed in the collapse of special teams, all the O-line shenaningans to date and the inability for the defense to make one last stop when they had to. The jury is still out to say the least on Tomlin. I am also not enamoured with this Zierlein guy, which Blitz painfully brought out.

But given that Chuck Noll went 1-13 in his first year, there was somehow a good feeling about the way things were projecting. I have that same feeling now about Tomlin.

by maryrose on Jul 1, 2008 4:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol...you don't believe that RE

I think you’re just trying to get a rise out of people.

Billionaires don’t make ‘vanity’ moves with their most valuable and most personally treasured asset. Nobody sane makes vanity moves like that, but certainly not businessmen like the Rooneys.

But say they did for just a second. What if Tomlin was hired ‘as a vanity move’ then the team started falling apart, losing tons of games for the first 3 years of the Tomlin era. Then what? Do they stick out the vanity move? Do they risk looking ‘racist’ by firing Tomlin before giving him the same long tenure to succeed that Noll and Cowher had at first?

Doesn’t even come close to making sense, and you probably know that.

by Blitzburgh on Jul 1, 2008 4:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just can't resist can you?

Gotta slam Tomlin at every opportunity… I’m assuming this is a joke. The Rooney’s are sharp business men, and in the football business to stay profitable in what is essentially a small market of Western Pennsylvania, you have have to win football games, lots of football games.

If they didn’t give a hoot about qualifications maybe they would have hired me. My teams in Madden tend to win the super bowl every year. And I have a solid 3 years playing experience in Middle School and High School, (till I reached 6’4” but only rocked 155 lbs.) I also watch NFL Matchup every week so I’ve got a good idea on how to break down film. Gotta say, on paper, i was a wiser choice than Mike Tomlin who has “never succeeded at ANYTHING”. Poor bastards made a bad call.

by Chicago Steeler on Jul 1, 2008 5:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Are you kidding?

I laughed for a good minute at that comment because it is so obviously uninformed. First of all, they followed a coaching search process. There is no reason at all that they should have worried about having the perception that Cowher had picked a successor. Secondly, according to what I heard on the radio down here (one of the morning guys on the sports radio station is a Steelers fan), Cowher specifically told them to look at one guy, Chan Gailey. That was his only recommendation. He didn’t vouch for Whiz or Grimm as a HC. And, last, going young and “inexperienced” has landed them their two most successful coaches to date.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Jul 1, 2008 5:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow

Sounds like credibility slipping away with every single word.

by cgolden on Jul 2, 2008 7:47 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You just have to stir the pot, don't you?

"Damnit mom! You almost ran over Greg Lloyd!"

at an autograph signing back in 95. He walked out in front of our minivan, and my mom almost hit him. He apologized.

by PA ARMY OFFICER on Jul 2, 2008 9:56 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rooneys bought the team...

..when one of the old, dead, tyrants glaring at you from that picture on the wall had a longshot horse come in for him down at the track. Big time. The guy was probably drunk at the time and had one of the hookers who was with him pick the longshot. Either that or he arranged a fix on the race beforehand. That is the glorious history of the Rooney family and their “most treasured possession”. Don’t be getting all smarmy on us here.

by robert ethan on Jul 1, 2008 5:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nah, wiggins is way funnier and less offensive.

by BadMaafala on Jul 1, 2008 5:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Debate

I don’t know who is funnier or more offensive – But – I believe both fall into the Woody Woodpecker categories – Instigators!

by smashmouthsteel on Jul 2, 2008 10:36 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I guess you just answered my question.

"Damnit mom! You almost ran over Greg Lloyd!"

at an autograph signing back in 95. He walked out in front of our minivan, and my mom almost hit him. He apologized.

by PA ARMY OFFICER on Jul 2, 2008 9:57 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Rooney's got lucky

So what? They’ve been pretty good owners for the last 35 years or so. They’ve made good hires, don’t mess around with head cases, and generally have run a pretty clean team.

by Cols714 on Jul 1, 2008 5:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cowher was not a defensive back

The article states “After two years in Cleveland as a Special Teams coordinator, Cowher began coaching the Browns’ secondary, a more natural fit given his playing days as a DB.” Cowher was a linebacker who played mostly on special teams. Perhaps the author is confusing him with Titans’ head coach Jeff Fisher, who was a DB at USC and for a few years with the Chicago Bears.

by RuthlessBurgher on Jul 1, 2008 7:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thank you

Though I now respect Fisher, I would never confused Cowher with him. I hated Fisher so much during most of the Cowher era (mostly because they were good and owned us, of course), but also because of the Nedney flop in that playoff game.

Not sure where that error came from. My editors (me) missed that one. Thanks! I’ll change it out.

by Blitzburgh on Jul 1, 2008 7:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

0 for the week RE

Weren’t you also the one who was singing the praises of Legursky? He just took the same bus out of town as Dookie.

Just for chuckles; you’ve been trying to run this ‘social commentary’ line for awhile. Can you back that up with any facts? Or are you mistaking BTSC as being a fantasy site?

by RickVa on Jul 1, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ethan…Vanity? Please. I thought the objective is to win championships, something the Steelers have scored on as much as anyone in the NFL’s modern era. You obviously dont care for the Rooney’s or Tomlin, and that is fine. Regardless of your opinion of these men, they have plenty to show that they know a thing or two (or five) about preparing teams to capture the biggest prize in football.

Blitz did a terrific job of outlining the recent hiring history of one of the most stable and succussful franchises in professional sports. Tomlin has been a Head coach for one year… clearly the jury is still out. But as a lifelong Steeler fan, I have the sense to defer to the Rooney’s when it comes to hiring head coaches. So besides your obvious disgust at the Rooneys track record (pun intended, see SR.) and thier supposed ulterior motive behind the Tomlin hire, what accounts for all those rings?

by feworker on Jul 1, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Excellent follow up!

Another fine example of what I consider to be one of the best Steeler sites on the www!
Great read Blitz! Great and timely follow up to the previous thread. Go with confidence and please keep this great material coming.

Here we go Steelers….Here we Go!

by steelersrock08 on Jul 1, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rooney's

As you pointed out, The Rooney’s look at what everyone else is doing and then go in a different direction. Another perfect example of this was this past draft. All teams were falling over each other drafting offensive linemen in the first round and although needing an offensive lineman they did not reach and ended up with a topnotch running back and in the second round again not reaching like other teams were and ending up with a first round quality wide receiver. The Rooneys do not follow the herd.

by skatmany on Jul 1, 2008 10:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rooney's

I love the Rooney’s…being a fan for over 30 years I can truly say, the Steelers are more than just a “team” to me. I love everything about the organization…especially the Rooneys…their class, their patience, their leadership in the NFL, their willingness to take chances (hiring Noll, Cowher, Tomlin)...I often tried to model their decision making in my own business.

I know some years will be better than other in terms of wins and losses…some years will be more frustrating than others…more often than not we will be left disappointed…that’s why we keep coming back for more! but through it all I love the Steelers…not only because we are successful but for the organization itself…what they stand for…it’s history…and it’s people!!

That said, does anyone know if there are any young Rooney’s left? Dan is in charge, Art 2, is second in command…any other future Rooney’s in training?

Just wondering what the next 30 years of Steeler leadership loks like…

by SteelerMike on Jul 1, 2008 10:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Interesting parallel between Cowher and Tomlin

In 1992 the finalist along with Bill Cowher was Joe Greene. In 2007 the finalist along with Mike Tomlin was Russ Grimm (Whisenhunt bolted after seeing the writing on the wall).

In 1992 a 34-year-old outside coordinator whose career was rising quickly had a phenomenal interview and beat out the incumbent line coach who was immensely popular with the players and fans. In 2007 the exact same thing happened.

The irony is that in 1992 the incumbent was Black and the outside coordinator was White. In 2007 the cosmetics were reversed. This shows that Dan Rooney is completely color blind. He neither hires, nor avoids hiring, a coach because of the color of his skin or this silly notion of vanity or anything else. It also shows he is strong enough to go against the easy popular decision and use his intuition to hire what he believes in the long run to be the best choice for the Steelers.

by maryrose on Jul 2, 2008 9:22 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   1 recs

nuff said

Had forgotten about that about the 1992 hire.

by Blitzburgh on Jul 2, 2008 11:19 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One For The Rooney's

I don’t think Dan is vain. Art definitely wasn’t. The coaches picked in the past were “popular” or friends of Art. He was way more interested in his other business ventures than the Steelers. The other ventures made money. And so what if he fixed a horse race, collected for the mob and dated a hooker (RE’s version) Are we going to crucify Joe Kennedy? Art surely made up for his indiscretions of youth in his later years. The pick of Tomlin was not a “vain” attention grabbing pick. Yes the Rooney’s are socially aware. Yes the Rooney’s wanted to give every man a chance that deserved it. (see Joe Greene in 92) They wouldn’t have picked a man for his skin color, they picked a man for what they thought this man was. If RE had been correct they would have picked Joe Greene!
That said while I agree with most of Blitz story I take exception with one line; “But, to point to his lack of coaching experience as the primary reason for being skeptical, while still professing faith in the Rooneys and how they do business, is incongruous logic.” My point is that for as much as many of us loved Coach Cowher (I was a fan) he had lots to learn. We lost many big games through 14 years while Cowher learned to play to win not play to not lose. I saw many of those same uninspiring qualities in Tomlin last year (who I am also a fan of) against Den, Jax and NE. I just hope it takes Tomlin a lot less than 14 years to learn what Cowher knew when he retired.

When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen

by 5020 on Jul 2, 2008 9:50 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

TMVT weighing in

Mike Tomlin is friggin’ awesome. He has excellent charisma and seems to be the type of guy who is young enough and smart enough to actually keep trying to always learn and be better, as opposed to recycled coaches who only do it “their” way, even if “their” way has stopped working. We got a potentially great one in Tomlin.

by TheMostViolentTeam on Jul 2, 2008 10:43 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

bottom line

Tomlin wants to win Super Bowls. that is his only goal. any coach who sets his sights that high in his first year, is good in my book.

by TheMostViolentTeam on Jul 2, 2008 10:44 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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