Football, Innovation, and the Evolution of a Game. What's Next?
The following post is quite long. If you're in a hurry, stop now, and read later, if at all. It is not intended to generate some firestorm debate. It is merely an attempt by me to provide you with something different to read and think about during this long last stretch of the offseason. Many will think that the ideas contained within are not quite organized coherently. I would not disagree. But, hopefully it's entertaining and thought-provoking nevertheless. As always, feedback is welcome.
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Nathan Myhrvold met Jack Horner on the set of the “Jurassic Park” sequel in 1996. Horner is an eminent paleontologist, and was a consultant on the movie. Myhrvold was there because he really likes dinosaurs. Between takes, the two men got to talking, and Horner asked Myhrvold if he was interested in funding dinosaur expeditions.
Myhrvold is of Nordic extraction, and he looks every bit the bearded, fair-haired Viking—not so much the tall, ferocious kind who raped and pillaged as the impish, roly-poly kind who stayed home by the fjords trying to turn lead into gold. He is gregarious, enthusiastic, and nerdy on an epic scale. He graduated from high school at fourteen. He started Microsoft’s research division, leaving, in 1999, with hundreds of millions....
“What you do on a dinosaur expedition is you hike and look at the ground,” Myhrvold explains. “You find bones sticking out of the dirt and, once you see something, you dig.” In Montana, which is prime dinosaur country, people had been hiking around and looking for bones for at least a hundred years. But Horner wanted to keep trying. So he and Myhrvold put together a number of teams, totalling as many as fifty people. They crossed the Fort Peck reservoir in boats, and began to explore the Montana badlands in earnest. They went out for weeks at a time, several times a year. They flew equipment in on helicopters. They mapped the full dinosaur ecology—bringing in specialists from other disciplines. And they found dinosaur bones by the truckload.
Once, a team member came across a bone sticking out from the bottom of a recently eroded cliff. It took Horner’s field crew three summers to dig it out, and when they broke the bone open a black, gooey substance trickled out—a discovery that led Myhrvold and his friend Lowell Wood on a twenty-minute digression at dinner one night about how, given enough goo and a sufficient number of chicken embryos, they could “make another one.”
There was also Myhrvold’s own find: a line of vertebrae, as big as apples, just lying on the ground in front of him. “It was seven years ago. It was a bunch of bones from a fairly rare dinosaur called a thescelosaurus. I said, ‘Oh, my God!’ I was walking with Jack and my son. Then Jack said, ‘Look, there’s a bone in the side of the hill.’ And we look at it, and it’s a piece of a jawbone with a tooth the size of a banana. It was a T. rex skull. There was nothing else it could possibly be.”
People weren’t finding dinosaur bones, and they assumed that it was because they were rare. But—and almost everything that Myhrvold has been up to during the past half decade follows from this fact—it was our fault. We didn’t look hard enough.
Myhrvold gave the skeleton to the Smithsonian. It’s called the N. rex. “Our expeditions have found more T. rex than anyone else in the world,” Myhrvold said. “From 1909 to 1999, the world found eighteen T. rex specimens. From 1999 until now, we’ve found nine more.” Myhrvold has the kind of laugh that scatters pigeons. “We have dominant T. rex market share.”
The previous excerpt is from a recent article by Malcolm Gladwell about how innovative ideas, even ones that are big enough to change society, are not so rare as we might think. It prompted me to think about the game of football and what changes, if any, might be in store for the great game in the future. Though the fundamental structure of football is largely the same as it was early in the 20th century, I have to believe that if the game's pioneer players from back then would have a hard time recognizing what us fans presently see each Sunday.
How useful is it to have a group of really smart people brainstorm for a day? When Myhrvold started out, his expectations were modest. Although he wanted insights like Alexander Graham Bell’s, Bell was clearly one in a million, a genius who went on to have ideas in an extraordinary number of areas—sound recording, flight, lasers, tetrahedral construction, and hydrofoil boats, to name a few. The telephone was his obsession. He approached it from a unique perspective, that of a speech therapist. He had put in years of preparation before that moment by the Grand River, and it was impossible to know what unconscious associations triggered his great insight. Invention has its own algorithm: genius, obsession, serendipity, and epiphany in some unknowable combination. How can you put that in a bottle?
But then, in August of 2003, I.V. [I.V. is short for Intellectual Ventures - the company Myhrvold started to facilitate the creation of new, innovative ideas] held its first invention session, and it was a revelation. “Afterward, Nathan kept saying, ‘There are so many inventions,’ ” Wood recalled. “He thought if we came up with a half-dozen good ideas it would be great, and we came up with somewhere between fifty and a hundred. I said to him, ‘But you had eight people in that room who are seasoned inventors. Weren’t you expecting a multiplier effect?’ And he said, ‘Yeah, but it was more than multiplicity.’ Not even Nathan had any idea of what it was going to be like.”
The original expectation was that I.V. would file a hundred patents a year. Currently, it’s filing five hundred a year. It has a backlog of three thousand ideas. Wood said that he once attended a two-day invention session presided over by Jung, and after the first day the group went out to dinner. “So Edward took his people out, plus me,” Wood said. “And the eight of us sat down at a table and the attorney said, ‘Do you mind if I record the evening?’ And we all said no, of course not. We sat there. It was a long dinner. I thought we were lightly chewing the rag. But the next day the attorney comes up with eight single-spaced pages flagging thirty-six different inventions from dinner. Dinner.”
And the kinds of ideas the group came up with weren’t trivial. Intellectual Ventures just had a patent issued on automatic, battery-powered glasses, with a tiny video camera that reads the image off the retina and adjusts the fluid-filled lenses accordingly, up to ten times a second. It just licensed off a cluster of its patents, for eighty million dollars. It has invented new kinds of techniques for making microchips and improving jet engines; it has proposed a way to custom-tailor the mesh “sleeve” that neurosurgeons can use to repair aneurysms.
Ok, ok. So we're clearly talking about a collection of some of the most brilliant people in the world here. What the hell does this have to do with football? Well, perhaps not much, but what if people with a totally fresh set of eyes took a long hard look at how coaches and teams went about playing the game? Perhaps even folks who had no interest in football.
Last March, Myhrvold decided to do an invention session with Eric Leuthardt and several other physicians in St. Louis. Rod Hyde came, along with a scientist from M.I.T. named Ed Boyden. Wood was there as well.
“Lowell came in looking like the Cheshire Cat,” Myhrvold recalled. “He said, ‘I have a question for everyone. You have a tumor, and the tumor becomes metastatic, and it sheds metastatic cancer cells. How long do those circulate in the bloodstream before they land?’ And we all said, ‘We don’t know. Ten times?’ ‘No,’ he said. ‘As many as a million times.’ Isn’t that amazing? If you had no time, you’d be screwed. But it turns out that these cells are in your blood for as long as a year before they land somewhere. What that says is that you’ve got a chance to intercept them.”
How did Wood come to this conclusion? He had run across a stray fact in a recent issue of The New England Journal of Medicine. “It was an article that talked about, at one point, the number of cancer cells per millilitre of blood,” he said. “And I looked at that figure and said, ‘Something’s wrong here. That can’t possibly be true.’ The number was incredibly high. Too high. It has to be one cell in a hundred litres, not what they were saying—one cell in a millilitre. Yet they spoke of it so confidently. I clicked through to the references. It was a commonplace. There really were that many cancer cells.”
Wood did some arithmetic. He knew that human beings have only about five litres of blood. He knew that the heart pumps close to a hundred millilitres of blood per beat, which means that all of our blood circulates through our bloodstream in a matter of minutes. The New England Journal article was about metastatic breast cancer, and it seemed to Wood that when women die of metastatic breast cancer they don’t die with thousands of tumors. The vast majority of circulating cancer cells don’t do anything.
“It turns out that some small per cent of tumor cells are actually the deadly ones,” he went on. “Tumor stem cells are what really initiate metastases. And isn’t it astonishing that they have to turn over at least ten thousand times before they can find a happy home? You naïvely think it’s once or twice or three times. Maybe five times at most. It isn’t. In other words, metastatic cancer—the brand of cancer that kills us—is an amazingly hard thing to initiate. Which strongly suggests that if you tip things just a little bit you essentially turn off the process.”
That was the idea that Wood presented to the room in St. Louis. From there, the discussion raced ahead. Myhrvold and his inventors had already done a lot of thinking about using tiny optical filters capable of identifying and zapping microscopic particles. They also knew that finding cancer cells in blood is not hard. They’re often the wrong size or the wrong shape. So what if you slid a tiny filter into a blood vessel of a cancer patient? “You don’t have to intercept very much of the blood for it to work,” Wood went on. “Maybe one ten-thousandth of it. The filter could be put in a little tiny vein in the back of the hand, because that’s all you need. Or maybe I intercept all of the blood, but then it doesn’t have to be a particularly efficient filter.”
Wood was a physicist, not a doctor, but that wasn’t necessarily a liability, at this stage. “People in biology and medicine don’t do arithmetic,” he said. He wasn’t being critical of biologists and physicians: this was, after all, a man who read medical journals for fun. He meant that the traditions of medicine encouraged qualitative observation and interpretation. But what physicists do—out of sheer force of habit and training—is measure things and compare measurements, and do the math to put measurements in context. At that moment, while reading The New England Journal, Wood had the advantages of someone looking at a familiar fact with a fresh perspective.
That was also why Myhrvold had wanted to take his crew to St. Louis to meet with the surgeons. He likes to say that the only time a physicist and a brain surgeon meet is when the physicist is about to be cut open—and to his mind that made no sense. Surgeons had all kinds of problems that they didn’t realize had solutions, and physicists had all kinds of solutions to things that they didn’t realize were problems. At one point, Myhrvold asked the surgeons what, in a perfect world, would make their lives easier, and they said that they wanted an X-ray that went only skin deep. They wanted to know, before they made their first incision, what was just below the surface. When the Intellectual Ventures crew heard that, their response was amazement. “That’s your dream? A subcutaneous X-ray? We can do that.”
Insight could be orchestrated: that was the lesson. If someone who knew how to make a filter had a conversation with someone who knew a lot about cancer and with someone who read the medical literature like a physicist, then maybe you could come up with a cancer treatment. It helped as well that Casey Tegreene had a law degree, Lowell Wood had spent his career dreaming up weapons for the government, Nathan Myhrvold was a ball of fire, Edward Jung had walked across Texas. They had different backgrounds and temperaments and perspectives, and if you gave them something to think about that they did not ordinarily think about—like hurricanes, or jet engines, or metastatic cancer—you were guaranteed a fresh set of eyes.
The article, which contains other anecdotes and hypotheses, was fascinating to me for a number of reasons not worth discussing on a football oriented site, but it made me think about the game. My personal opinion is that it is just a matter of time before the strategy of the game evolves drastically, particularly on offense.
Because of the strict set of rules defining the game, there's only so much that can change. But I immediately think of the offenses orchestrated by Mike Leach at Texas Tech University. Despite being in the veritable wasteland that is West Texas, Coach Leech has managed to assemble offenses that annually outpace the competition throwing the ball. People argue that his philosophy puts too much pressure on his defense, which accounts for why Texas Tech has not yet managed to have a truly breakthrough season. My take, however, is that he simply doesn't have the horses on defense to get the job done. What if you combined the defensive talent at a school like Ohio State, with the high-octane offensive attack that he's able to put together with merely so-so athletic talent? My guess? Sheer domination.
Another relevant example of how NFL coaches and coordinators are inefficient in their decision making and strategic choices is in their decisions on 4th down. Cal professor David H. Romer examined these inefficiencies in a paper for the National Bureau of Economic Research, yet nearly 6 years later, not much has changed.
Why? Is this just an act of stubborn pride, not wanting some academic to tell real football men how to do their job? Perhaps, and while I wonder how long that mindset can last in such a hyper-competitive industry, I can also understand where it's coming from. My point - and I don't really know if you can call it that - is that even since the 1980s, we've seen a substantial change in the way the game is played. What's next? And what fresh set of eyes might be responsible for helping push the game towards its next evolutionary milestone?
When Bill Walsh implemented the West Coast offense, it was considered gimmicky. Now, he's considered a genious. What about 'trick'' plays? They're considered gimmicky, and coaches are scoffed at when they do not work. But why do offenses limit the amount of preparation defenses need to do by keeping everything so close to the vest? Just because they are not part of a team's regular arsenal of plays, does not make them poor strategy. With all the archived film, not to mention the improved speed and athleticism on defense, it seems to be that teams should be employing new ways to confuse the defense, in whatever way possible, 'gimmicks' and critics be damned.
Your guess is as good as mine as to what the next 'gimmick' that sticks will be, but I, for one, believe the game will continue to evolve so long as new innovative minds are afforded the opportunity to participate in the game. And perhaps more importantly, if teams look outside the traditional ranks of scouts and 'football' minds for help.
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Wow, that was a pretty riveting article
Maybe I got sucked in by my childhood fascination with dinosaurs but still.
As far as football ‘inventions:’
- I wonder when an NFL team will employ some form of the spread option that’s so popular in college right now. I know one of the arguments against it is that an NFL QB would get too beat up running that much and they’d break down, but think about all of the college QBs who are great at the spread option who don’t even get a shot in the pros b/c they’re not ‘prototypical NFL QBs.’ It almost reminds me of how Pittsburgh had their pick of 3-4 OLBs b/c no one else had a use for a guy who was too small for a 4-3 DE or 4-3 LB. Basically what if a team picked up as many ‘tweener’ QBs (Randle El, Ward, Brad Smith, Micheal Robinson just name a few) and employed a spread option offense? Would it ever work?
- Does the “11 angry men” defense count as some defensive invention?
by cgolden on
Jul 3, 2008 1:08 PM EDT
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Dunno if it would work or not. I think lots of it is predicated on defensive ends in the college game over pursuing/biting on too many fakes, and not being that athletic. But, its an interesting thought. There should be more misdirection and more little things that force defenses to slow down and consider the possibility of multiple potential developments on the field. Strict play action isn’t enough, even though its really really effective at times.
by Blitzburgh on
Jul 3, 2008 1:17 PM EDT
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There's a lot in that post.
That article is fascinating. It really is amazing how good the human mind is at solving clearly defined problems, and long as someone has the creativity to come up with them and there’s a need to solve the problem. As an engineer, I can’t really point to many problems people (other than Star Trek) come up with that can’t be solved. I mean, we sent a freaking guy to the moon, and if there was a viable economic reason, I’m sure we could mine there or on Mars, too. And even for Star Trek folks, physicists have created a limited cloacking device.
Usually the best way of solving difficult problems is being able to take a step back and look at them from different angles, and the blood-cancer thing is the perfect example. That brings me to another thing I noticed in the article; it shows how important diversity is. I’m not talking only about racial diversity (which is still certainly part of it), but the broader sense of the word. In ecology, the more diverse an ecosystem, the better it is at fighting off invaders and changes. In diet, eating different kinds of foods helps keep you from overloading on any one nutrient. In economics, the more diversified an economy is, the better it can cope with economic change. Personally, the more you interact with people from other countries, other economic classes, other parts of the country, other backgrounds, other occupations, etc, the better understanding you can have of religion, social and political issues, and life in general. We don’t always have enough cross-talk, though, which is why you have a bunch of engineers and physicists who are bored of making the same old automotive controllers and a bunch of doctors who don’t have the tools they need to do their best on the job.
But on to the important stuff: football. It’s interesting that statistics are the basis for everything in baseball, but in football, the only people who care about them are fantasy owners. Because of it’s nature, football is much harder to keep meaningful stats on, but certainly things like 3rd down conversion rates and drive stats are statistically important. TMQ has ranted and raved about the 4th down thing to the point that I don’t read him any more, but he’s still probably right (although using the Pats offense of an example of why other teams shouldn’t punt is pretty poor reasoning on his part).
As for the whole pass first, ask questions later approach, it could certainly work in the NFL, but defenses would start to (and have) adjust to it. If all the defenses started running nickel or dime as their base packages and picked up personnel accordingly, a good running team would thrash them. After defenses adjusted, I’m not sure that the offenses would be any better off than where they came from. The best offenses would be able to do both well (clever diversity tie-in) and could adjust for their opponents. If the Colts are built to stop the pass, let’s ram it down their throat and not give them the ball. If the Ravens are built to stop the run, let’s go 4 wide and save running for the forth quarter when we’re up 28. In that respect, I like our team. We have a very well-rounded team that can perform all four phases (run, pass on both sides). We are a little thin at DB to play against the Pats, but not very many teams can spread us like that. Thankfully we won’t have to see Clark Haggans covering Wes Welker anytime soon.
by BadMaafala on
Jul 3, 2008 1:29 PM EDT
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good thoughts
Ill leave it at just great thoughts in your opening paragraphs.
As for the part about pass first, ask questions second. Running of course, can be very effective if teams were to deploy 6-8 DBs. Texas Tech’s leading rusher last year had 84 carries, with an average of 5.6 ypc. The second leading carrier, had 54 carries for a 4.0 average. So, mixing and matching some still makes sense when defenses are in certain packages.
But, in addition to merely becoming more of a pass pass pass game, I’m also thinking about entirely different ways to fool defenses, and position players on the field. Total breaks from convention formation wise and in other ways.
by Blitzburgh on
Jul 3, 2008 1:41 PM EDT
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agreed
not necessarily just pass heavy offenses, but getting creative with running options as well. because let’s face it, in the NFL opposing teams will absolutely attack your weakness. so you always have to retain a degree of balance whether you choose run heavy or pass heavy. for example, what about a ‘bunch’ formation the Steelers use alot, with Heath, Hines, and Santonio bunched close to the line of scrimmage. instead of those three, how about 3 TE’s (especially since all our TEs are pretty good blockers—or 2TEs and Hines). Then run to that side, and since inevitably at least 2 of those 3 will be blocked by DBs, the TE’s can clobber them in blocking and Fast Willie should be able to turn the corner and get his wheels going.
by TheMostViolentTeam on
Jul 3, 2008 2:12 PM EDT
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so assuming we ran that play early in a game for a big gain. later when the defense sees it their best adjustment would be to heavily run blitz the side of the O-Line, just inside the tight ends bunch formation, and try to cut off the running back before he got to those blockers. so THEN the QB can look for this by seeing if they load the LBs heavy on that side, and audible to a run to the opposite side of the line (where it would just end up being man on man blocking and whoever executes will win the play), or audible to a quick slant into the space vacated by the run-blitzing LBs. so you can see how teams compensate and while the defense may succeed in taking us out of actually pulling off the run behind the tight ends everytime, we are at least forcing the defense to adjust to us, as opposed to us having to adjust to them.
by TheMostViolentTeam on
Jul 3, 2008 2:16 PM EDT
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That TE bunch could be pretty sweet
If we had 2 Heath Millers (guys who could clobber DB’s and outrun LB’s) we could audible the play based on who was covering them, and it would be pretty hard to defend.
It certainly does make you think about coming up with different ideas. One thing to keep in mind is that as you make things more complex, there’s more “breakable parts”; that’s why you’re always taking your Audi to get some sensor replaced. If you watch some of the trick plays the Steelers have run, there’s more opportunity for someone to screw up than just “simple fundamental football”. I’m all for looking at things in different ways, especially ways that confuse the opposition, but we have to be careful how cute we get. I hope the first 5 times we bring Dennis Dixon in, he lines up at WR, starts towards the QB, and Mendenhall runs it up the middle against the people who are watching Dixon.
It will be interesting to see what happens with some of the weird college stuff going on now. It’s too risky to try radical changes in the pro’s, but if it works in college, some of it could start to translate to the NFL.
by BadMaafala on
Jul 3, 2008 3:10 PM EDT
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Also,
I’m still waiting for someone to figure out how to use guys like Vick, Young, and Cunningham effectively. They bring such a unique aspect to the game, but they try to fit them into a regular offense. These are world-class athletes that are just mediocre QB’s. Surely someone can find a way to make star football players out of them.
There were some attempts to do that when Cunningham first came into the league, but I don’t know how effective they were. One would really have to be creative to use them to their potential, and there’s always a big risk of falling on your face when you do that.
by BadMaafala on
Jul 3, 2008 3:20 PM EDT
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I emailed him, asking him to read the article, then hopefully talk with me about some ideas about the subject. He didn’t answer the last part, but he did say his new assistant coach for the middle school football team he’s coaching is former Steeler Willie Williams..lol.
Maybe we’ll get Gregg on soon enough to hear his thoughts why coaches are so conservative.
by Blitzburgh on
Jul 3, 2008 3:27 PM EDT
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Haha, that’s ridiculous about the coaching.
Ugh, make sure you don’t stroke his ego too much if you get an interview. I’m always skeptical of writers/personalities that have strong personas. Easterbrook has some reasonable ideas, but he’s so adamant about everything he says. I feel like a lot of what he does is just rile people up so they come back to hear what crazy stuff he says next week. I’d give you a high five if you asked him about that in an interview, but don’t feel obligated, as it’s not on topic.
As for why he thinks coaches are conservative, he says something like “if the team plays conservative and loses, it’s the players fault, but if they try something risky and out of the box and lose, it’s the coach’s fault.” Not altogether untrue.
by BadMaafala on
Jul 3, 2008 5:11 PM EDT
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Now we’re thinking.
How about Silverback in some blocking packages? :)
by Blitzburgh on
Jul 3, 2008 2:16 PM EDT
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I do wish more teams would use guys both ways
I don’t mean that a guy should start both ways, but I’d like to see a certain package where big defensive linemen are used at fullback or a tall, fast wide receiver would be used in dime packages.
by cgolden on
Jul 3, 2008 2:48 PM EDT
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the problem with innovation is that everything requires stress testing to be sure it will work. In the NFL this would mean at least a year of trying the offensive/defensive strategies and tweaking what’s wrong with it till it works. You would need to be able to use the real athletes running at full speed with full contact to really know how it’s going to operate in the field.
But if an owner took a truly inventive coach and gave him 2-3 years to perfect it you could have an amazing new way of playing football.
But since no owner is willing to give up 2-3 years of losing seasons if they can help it the changes must be small, almost miniscule at a time to keep them from impacting the game to a point where they could lose the game cause of it.
by Chicago Steeler on
Jul 3, 2008 5:13 PM EDT
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sounds about right
No such thing as beta mode in the NFL I suppose, though certain franchises are perennial losers anyway.
by Blitzburgh on
Jul 3, 2008 7:08 PM EDT
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Great Writing Blitz!
In agreement w/ 45 above. (Maafala) I too wonder when the NFL will learn to truly exploit the Michael Vick’s of the world.
As embarrassing as it is to admit, when I saw Kordell play in 95-97 I thought we were witnessing the next evolution in football. Stew seemed to move in a faster gear then everyone else. He had an almost Jordanesque quality in that you just felt he was the best athlete on the field by leaps and bounds. You can imagine the pain realizing he was no more than an inconsistent flash in the pan by 99. Some of that was the loss of Chan Gailey but some of it was that Kordell lacked that moxie that only Champions have.
When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen
by 5020 on
Jul 3, 2008 7:51 PM EDT
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interesting read
My own thoughts are the world of videogames and fantasy football have a good chance of introducing concepts and approaches to real world football. I don’t see any innovations resulting from traditional media coverages, the espns or sports illustrateds are not going to present newness, merely point it out once it has arrived (or ridicule whatever fails).
But the funny thing about football-and most sports- is that outsiders are not embraced. An nfl team is not going to hire a used car salesman with no playing or coaching experience or a highly intelligent scientist- the fans would go crazy, and the players might have a hard time playing in that atmosphere. (and yet most owners have or had little to no experience playing and certainly not coaching- so in a sense, the very highest man on the team is the least experienced).
Getting back to videogames/fantasy football- a radical approach wouldn’t just be aggressive on 4th down, it would go so far as to fire the punter and fire the field goal/xp kicker and simply hire a guy who boots touchbacks every time.
This accomplishes the following:
no defensive special teams- no meltdowns, no runbacks, no touchdowns, no penalties (as a fan, a part of me always dreads when the steelers kick the ball off or punt it- even during seasons when I felt they had good special teams, but especially now).
Less terrible coaching decisions on 3rd and 4th down. Keep it simple, and consistent. When you have all four downs to play, you call different plays on 2nd down and 3rd down. You can run on first, second and third down. You know what you are going to do if 4th down comes because you aren’t kicking. You don’t devote time and strategy to what if scenarios of punting, you don’t try zany fake kick plays and you don’t waste timeouts mulling decisions and second-guessing.
Keeps the other teams’ offense off the field and your defense better rested (and their defense more gassed). 4 and out yields 1 additional snap with your defense rested. If that converts, you now have 5 additional snaps with your defense rested and their offense sitting compared to punting. For a running team, this tips time of possession hugely in that teams’ favor.
No rules about kicks are allowed inside one’s own 20 yard lines, or with x minutes left, or down by x points. You need a 4 down mentality at all times on every series. You need an owner on board to disperse the blame and counteract the media. But fans tend to love going for it and I feel that 4 down/2pt conversion football would be so successful, it would revolutionize the game to the point of being considered unfair.
It might not work out, but it would be exciting football. And there are enough teams going nowhere each season that it would make for a great experiment if one team went from aggressive 4th downs to completely kickfree.
by vherub on
Jul 7, 2008 10:20 PM EDT
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Hmm
Intesting stuff. It’s hard to find anyone who could kick the ball out of the end zone with consistency, and even if everyone did that, the NFL would just move the kick back five yards, like they did a couple years ago. I’m all for going for more 4th downs, and you’re right that they could call better plays on 3rd if they knew they were going for it, but if it’s 4th and 18 from my 15 yard line, I’m punting, no question. You’re going to give away points otherwise. It would be great if you could get a utility kicker - a guy who could make FG’s, get decent kickoffs, and occasionally punt - but that’s a pretty tall order. You don’t want to sacrifice your kicker because some games will inevitably come down to a 50 yard FG at the end of regulation. If you had to punt a lot in a low scoring, field position game, you’d have a tired kicker deciding the game.
by BadMaafala on
Jul 8, 2008 10:39 AM EDT
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Good call Maafala. There are situations when there is no question, you must punt every time. But I’d agree with vherub that if you cross the 50 you should start calling plays with a 4 down mentality. Even the crappiest starting running backs in the league average over 3 yards a run. With 4 downs that means a first down. Granted that’s average, not how each run goes, but with 4 downs you really could pound the ball on 3 downs and probably have 4th and short.
I also tend to think you should rush 10 at the punter every time (keeping an eye out for fakes) and fair catch it unless you have a really dynamic returner and great special teams. For the steelers last year I think this would have been much better since Rossum couldn’t get past his shoe laces on punts. The number of penalties on punt returns negates the benefit of his measely 5-10 yards gained on returns.
I’d also be curious to see teams have many packages for kicking the extra point. Keep the kicker in but fake it 50% of the time. That makes the team opposite worry about both. Maybe not though, they’d probably give up the kick to cover the 2 pt every time. Ah well… In video games it would work.
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