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Steelers 53-Man Roster, Part 4

It's been awhile since we took a stab at the Stelers 53 man roster heading into the 2008 season. You can see our first installment, as well as the second and the third, to see what has changed since the middle of the summer.

OFFENSE:

Quarterbacks (3): Ben Roethlisberger, Byron Leftwich, Dennis Dixon

Running Backs (5): Willie Parker, Rashard Mendenhall, Mewelde Moore, Gary Russell, Carey Davis

Wide Receivers (5): Hines Ward, Santonio Holmes, Limas Sweed, Nate Wasington, Eddie Drummond

Tight Ends (3): Heath Miller, Matt Spaeth, Lee Vickers

Offensive Linemen (9): Marvel Smith, Kendall Simmons, Justin Hartwig, Chris Kemoeatu, Willie Colon, Max Starks, Darnell Stapleton, Trai Essex, Sean Mahan

DEFENSE:

Defensive Linemen (7): Brett Keisel, Casey Hampton, Aaron Smith, Orpheus Roye, Chris Hoke, Travis Kirschke, Nick Eason

Linebackers (8): James Harrison, Larry Foote, James Farrior, LaMarr Woodley, Lawrence Timmons, Keyaron Fox, Andre Frazier, Bruce Davis

Defensive Backs (10): Ike Taylor, Bryant McFadden, DeShea Townsend, William Gay, Troy Polamalu, Ryan Clark, Ryan Mundy, Anthony Smith, Tyrone Carter, Roy Lewis

Specialists (3): Greg Warren, Jeff Reed, Mitch Berger

Say Hello To:

Eddie Drummond - Has looked pretty good so far. Not sure I really like the acquisition, as he isn't much of a WR threat. But unless we want to roll the dice with Mendenhall's health by having him return kicks, we'll need a return guy back there, and Drummond's skills would make him more valuable than Dallas Baker, I believe.

Nick Eason - I'd guess that Eason and McBean are vying for one of the final roster spots. I'll give Eason the nod for now, though McBean could certainly overtake him with a nice couple weeks here.

Roy Lewis- Made the most of his opportunities so far, looking solid at both the CB and Safety position.

Orpheus Roye - Will make this team if he stays injury free. We need beef to spell Hampton at times. Hoke's solid, but an extra set of legs will help at some point this season. Trust me.

Trai Essex - With Jason Capizzi injured and Tony Hills looking confused and overmatched out there at this point in his career, Essex will make this team. He may not be a world beater, but he's done his job when called upon, including in last year's playoffs against Jacksonville, when he more than held his own.

Sean Mahan - Mahan is making this team. Last year was last year. Let's hope.

Lee Vickers - It really shouldnt take much for someone to beat out the duo of Jonathan Dekker and Cody Boyd. Vickers is an impressive physical specimen that the Steelers might be interested in hanging out to, just in case.

Byron Leftwich - Leftwich is on the team for now, but I wouldn't expect him to be a Steeler for more than a few months, if that. I always liked watching him sling the ball, but I really, REALLY do not want our prospects too closely tied to him this year. Even if he did throw a ball 80 yards in the air to Nate Washington for a TD the other day.

Say Goodbye To:

Dallas Baker - As I mentioned in the blurb about Drummond, Baker may just be unlucky that we don't have a DB on our roster who's adept at returning kicks. If we did, Drummond wouldn't have been brought in, and Baker probably would have snagged that relatively meaningless 5th WR spot. Because Baker can't return kicks or punts, he's the odd man out. That's unfortunate for him, because he has done everything he's supposed to have done this offseason. It's just tough to survive in the National Football League.

Tony Hills - I think he can still make this team, but he better get his act together quickly. Just about every report recounts his enormous struggles thus far.

Mike Humpal - Tough break for the kid. He's not healthy, and 5th round rookie LBs simply have to be out there learning and impressing if theyre going to make the squad their first year.

Jonathan Dekker - Could still very well be our 3rd TE. As could Boyd for that matter though.

Charlie Batch -  Get well Charlie. See you soon out there.

Kyle Clement - Injured, then cut.  I wouldn't bet on him not making a professional team in the future just yet. He's a raw talent with plenty of future left ahead of him if he works hard and catches some breaks health wise.

Jason Capizzi - More misfortune for Capizzi. I'm still pulling for him in the future, but it's not looking good for the kid.

Ryan McBean - Could still make this team. We know what we get from Eason -nothing much meaningful, so the job's there for the taking if Ryan can play consistent, athletic football for the next two weeks. 

Travis Williams - Lewis's potential versatility to play both CB and safety is too valuable. With Polamalu's recent injury problems, Ryan Clark's missing spleen, and An Smith and Tyrone Carter's sometimes erratic play, Lewis could be an emergency option at safety. That means no room for T Williams. I think he'll be on our practice squad though. He's had a nice camp and preseason. The roster configuration just doesn't bode well for him this year. Maybe next when B-Mac walks and Townsend gets even one more year older.

Last Three Out:

Ryan McBean, Travis Williams, Tony Hills 

 

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nice synopsis

too bad about the injuries, but not that big a deal. Hope orpheus can give us something. also can mahan really hang onto his job into mid-season or beyond?

by tkired on Aug 21, 2008 2:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

no way

Hartwig already has the job. He’s starting 2nd pre-season game in a row this coming weekend. I think the job is his, Tomlin just hasn’t said it yet.

by TheMostViolentTeam on Aug 21, 2008 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that being said

Mahan has definitely been improved this year.

by TheMostViolentTeam on Aug 21, 2008 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

keep

Paxson and McBean. Cut Eason and/or Kirscke or Roye. They need to get younger not keep basically the same d-line as last year where they struggled once Aa.Smith got hurt.

by steelcitykid on Aug 21, 2008 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

both of you

Refresh the post. I’ve made a few changes. Thanks!

by Michael Bean (Blitz) on Aug 21, 2008 2:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nooooo Not Carter

Please say it ain’t so! I’m tired of watching Carter get burned. At least if a youngster gets burned he’s learning and improving. Carter’s play continues to decline.

by Steev1705 on Aug 21, 2008 3:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

maybe so

but he’s too cheap and experienced to cut i think, with all the problems weve had with health at that position,.

by Michael Bean (Blitz) on Aug 21, 2008 3:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

It’s kind of like taking your medicine when you’re a kid. You hold your nose and swallow it down with a grimace, all the while knowing it’s for your own good….still, it doesn’t make it taste any better.

by Steev1705 on Aug 21, 2008 3:57 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A spoonful of sugar helps

the medicine go down.

Here’s to a healthy Troy and Ryan.

by herewegosteelers on Aug 21, 2008 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Drummond

I hope Drummond doesn’t make the team. I would hate to see another Rossum-like return game this year. He just seems like another washed up return guy the Steelers brought in. I want to see what Williams or Bloom can do. Put them on a kickoff and let them show something instead of backup punters kicking them 30 yards. I hope they don’t keep Carter either. if Lewis or Mundy show capable of stepping in, cut Carter.

by steelcitykid on Aug 21, 2008 8:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

Couldnt agree more. Unfortunately, I think its the move the team will make.

by Michael Bean (Blitz) on Aug 21, 2008 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

returner

That’s a tough call b/c while Drummond may not be a dynamic returner, he won’t fumble away a game like a young player.

by cgolden on Aug 21, 2008 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good point....

When we pulled in Rossum I was just glad to have someone who wouldn’t drop the damn ball…and to be fair he did pretty good on that score. I think he dropped three and lost none – he even scored a TD for us – which was an improvement. If Drummond can hobble up the field a little too I’ll count my lucky stars.

by SCSteeler on Aug 21, 2008 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i agree

BUT, I’m kinda tired of having such craptastically low expectations from the special teams. It’s like being fine with a good ‘game manger’ at QB.

by Michael Bean (Blitz) on Aug 21, 2008 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

True

It would be really nice not to have to cringe on punts and kickoffs for us or opponents. After last year, in my mind the focus should be on stopping the other team’s return game. It’s just such a shame that Reid didn’t work out back there. It stinks to need to have a guy on the roster just for that roll – unless his last name is Hester I suppose.

by SCSteeler on Aug 22, 2008 3:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Imagine being a Bears fan

That’s when all the excitement comes. Not when their offense gets the ball.

“Alright! They kicked it to Hester! Hope he takes it all the way, he’s our only chance to score!!”
haha

by iBleedBlack&Gold on Aug 22, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When you put it like that....

I’d rather be where we are and not with that QB tandem over there. Oh yeah, that sucks, but give that guy the credit for keeping his team in the game. Maybe if he doesn’t get a touchdown or redzone on a return they should just go ahead and punt the ball to the other team, get their D on the field, and wait for the next return ;)

by SCSteeler on Aug 23, 2008 4:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

5th WR

either way when they go to 5 wide I expect to see either Parker or Moore as the 5th guy out there instead of Baker/Drummond if everyone is healthy

by schnifin on Aug 21, 2008 8:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

thatd be nice

The 5th WR is basically useless in the pro game if there arent injuries. Agree schnifin, lets just use Mewelde out there instead of using a roster spot on a guy who might get 15 looks all season.

by Michael Bean (Blitz) on Aug 21, 2008 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Instead of a RB

They should Split out Miller. I believe i read his numbers were great when he was split out.

by _ET_ on Aug 21, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

good call

Miller had great numbers spilt out wide last year. One of the top TEs in the league in fact.

Maybe you read about it here on ‘Curtain. We talked about KC Joyner of ESPN.com’s breakdown of TEs when lined out wide in May.

by Michael Bean (Blitz) on Aug 21, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right on...

Thats where i read it. I remember seeing it on here now, thanks for finding the link. I wish i was as diligent as you. i am not a fan of spouting info without the credited source, but i didn’t have time when i commented.

by _ET_ on Aug 22, 2008 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

all good

Good memory of even remembering that.

by Michael Bean (Blitz) on Aug 22, 2008 3:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When was the last time the Steelers had a stud Kickoff Returner?

Perhaps I am “misrembering” but I cannot think of one in recent memory. How great would it be if the Steelers could find a young game changing returner ala, Hester or Cribs and be able to have some explosivness in that area of the game?

I guess Randell-El had some of that on punts but I was always nervous when he touched the ball he would fumble.

by frankrmineo on Aug 21, 2008 9:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

right

They should take a chance in preseason and stick a young guy out there to return kicks. Cribbs wasn’t a well known KR in college. He was a QB. And was undrafted. Just give some guys chances in a game Williams, Bloom, (not Reid). Moore hasn’t shown me anything especially on special teams. But I guess he is a lock b/c of 3rd down role.I say put Mendenhall in 3rd down role assuming he learns the blocks and blitz pickups. Then maybe Moore is expendable. Also if Berger or Ernster doesn’t work many teams have better punters on their team now. The Steelers should pick one up in final cuts.

by steelcitykid on Aug 21, 2008 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Randle El

was a pretty solid KR after is first year. I know he had some issues his rookie year, maybe even second year, but I’m pretty certain he turned into a solid KR/PR for us his last 2-3 years on the team. I wouldn’t call him a stud, but he was a dynamic return man.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Aug 21, 2008 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rod Woodson

I think that’s the last time we had a returner with a home run threat.

by BallsofSteel on Aug 21, 2008 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah yes

Quincy Morgan. I’ll never understand why we just let him walk away. Switching from him and El to Colclough and Holmes gave me indigestion

charity standing orders

by BadMaafala on Aug 21, 2008 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did anyone watch the bears/49ers game lastnight?

They had some donkey nobody had ever heard of returning kicks looking like a crazed Devin Hester. Why can’t we find some scrapper?

by frankrmineo on Aug 22, 2008 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bears ST

In part this is because the Bears block on special teams better than any team I’ve ever seen. I’m confident Allen Rossum would probably go to the probowl behind that special teams. Honestly… It’s ridiculous how much better it all works.

by Chicago Steeler on Aug 22, 2008 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i agree

That was my exact thought as I was watching him blow by the 49ers. Then again the only team the steelers returned a kickoff for a touchdown last year was against the….you guessed it 49ers. Perhaps they are just that bad.

by frankrmineo on Aug 22, 2008 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bang-up Job Blitz!

Blitz, DaTruth feels ya on that roster.

What DaTruth would like to see very much is for both Nick Eason and Tyrone Carter to wave simultaneously as they’re on the bus out of here come that final cut. If Hills shows anything, I’d give him a spot simply because we have no left tackle under contract next year.

I still think you guys are giving up way too early on the Humpal kid. If he is the special teams demon that the coaches think he can be, then keep him. So, I’d cut Eason, Tyrone Carter and add T. Hills and Mike Humpal. I’d keep Drummond over Baker at this point. For some reason, I just don’t think M. Moore is a threat on kickoff returns. DaTruth also isn’t crazy about having your most important offensive player next to big ben (Santonio Holmes ) returning punts the whole season. If the team needs a 5th WR during the season, then activate either Baker or Rucker.

Thoughts?

by datruth4life on Aug 21, 2008 11:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i agree with pretty much everything you said

but I think we can stash Humpal on the practice squad, especially if he’s a bit banged up

by schnifin on Aug 21, 2008 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Humpal

I liked what I’ve seen from him on the field, but apparently he’s had a series of stingers, which I guess can be a warning sign of nerve issues for the future. If he can clear up the injury stuff, I think he could be a solid backup and ST player, maybe even starting because of an injury. They didn’t hesitate to keep Stapleton last year, so if they don’t keep Humpal, it will be due to long-term injury concerns.

charity standing orders

by BadMaafala on Aug 21, 2008 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

Good thoughts datruth. I’m not thrilled about Ty Carter and Eason potentially making the squad either. I bet we see Humpal dressed at some point this year, I just don’t think it will be to start the year.

by Michael Bean (Blitz) on Aug 21, 2008 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah PS

I see him starting out on practice squad and making the team later in the year when we trim someone. Plus don’t usually have to worry about teams poaching a special teams guy from a practice squad.

by Chicago Steeler on Aug 21, 2008 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You've only listed 52

I’m rather surprised that I am the only one who has noticed this, but since you have Eddie Drummond listed as both a receiver and a specialist, you only listed 52 players. Or am I not counting right?

by worldtrip on Aug 21, 2008 12:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

forget it

I see where is miscounted. My bad

by worldtrip on Aug 21, 2008 12:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

practice squad

Anybody know what the Practice Squad will look like? Williams, McBean, Baker, Bloom?

by steelcitykid on Aug 21, 2008 2:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't totally agree with the picks.

Too many youthful prospects being thrown to the dogs in favor of marginal vets who can only be of limited value long term. I hang on to Humpal and probably McBean unless I think he has no chance of developing. To my thinking if there is to be a choice it would be between Roye and Eason or Kirschke. Hills can probably be safely stashed on the practice squad this year and groomed as a project. IF Drummond can’t be a game changer then drop him. Keep Baker, Rucker, whomever at fifth feceiver. Use Holmes on a part time basis, like the Skins used Darryl Green in the later years, special occasions and let Moore, Mendenhall, a committee handle return duties normally. Do we need three tight ends, or can one of the offensive linemen fulfill that role? Carter can go. If we need him later he’ll probably be around. But even if we keep him he won’t play as much given the young talent we have. I know everyone likes Bloom, I do too. But I don’t see the sense of keeping him on the practice squad unless he’s going to get some Miracle
Grow treatments.

by RickVa on Aug 21, 2008 8:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I would

keep Humpal too I just named a few possible candidates. But, I probally shouldn’t have mentioned Practice squad. It is just to early to tell. A couple cuts and the Practice Squad will change. We didn’t even get to the 3rd game yet.

by steelcitykid on Aug 21, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also

I think Bloom is Practice Squad eligible. Just keep him as insurance if there is a problem with Drummond or whatever starter is out there.

by steelcitykid on Aug 21, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Toni Hills will make it

Marvel Smith, Chris Kemoeatu, Max Starks, and Trai Essex contracts are up after this season and Willie Colon will be a restricted free agent. Young offensive lineman need to to learn footwork, punch, and the plays at game speed.

Dennis

by belvalle55 on Aug 21, 2008 9:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not sure if this has been on here

MAdesso: ED, keep up the good work man. So who do you see returning punts and kick offs in week 1?

Ed Bouchette: Santonio Holmes on punts and Mewelde Moore on kickoffs.

"It's time to plant some seeds. What that means is, hit them in the mouth. Ya know, plant some seeds. Show 'em what time it is." --Levon Kirkland

by steelerinchicago on Aug 21, 2008 9:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

clarification

Guys like hills and Humpal – I dont think they’ll be cut. Just moved to PS. If someone courts HIlls, we can activate him so he can’t be snagged. He’s just not ready to play – why waste a valuable roster spot? Same with Humpal – I like his chances to make it, even later this year. But to start the season, why should he be active when he’s missed so much time from injurys? I can see him being on PS, then being activated later in the year when somebody inevitably gets injured.

As for Holmes on punts – I like your mix and match idea RickVa, but something tells me that Tomlin will back off the idea over the course of the season, when he watches Santonio continue to grow and grow as a #1 WR. Just my two cents though.

by Michael Bean (Blitz) on Aug 21, 2008 11:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Santonio is poised

for greatness this year. I know it’s only the preseason but you can clearly see Santonio has moved up a notch this year. His sure hands, speed and athletic ability are now coupled with an understanding of what it takes to be a pro bowl receiver.

I just can’t see the steelers risking injury to such a lethal receiver….in addition to that, (with all due respect) he really wasn’t a very consistent KR.

by Steev1705 on Aug 22, 2008 2:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He wasn't a very consistent receiver at that time either.

But the point on risk is well taken and was my first thought on the matter too. But if he proves to be a homerun hitter as a returner it may be too tempting to resist.

by RickVa on Aug 22, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Third TE will be.......

Max Starks! They have to keep him and he can play both Tackles and TE. They’ll keep two TEs and that will leave open a roster spot for Charlie Batch.. Just my guess, but I am never right :)

by vin2k on Aug 27, 2008 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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