Steelers Hold Off Browns, Retain Hegemony Over AFC North
A big divisional win toinight for the Pittsburgh Steelers. It wasn't pretty, but that matters not. What matters is the W, the 2.5 game lead over Cleveland, and the noticeable improvement in several critical areas. As is usually the case following a game, the following is a number of talking points for us, in no particular order.
* Like I did last week, let's start with the big three up front on defense: Keisel, Aaron Smith and Casey Hampton. Jamaal Lewis was held to just 38 yards on 19 carries. Derek Anderson is just not going to beat the Pittsburgh Steelers in windy conditions when his running game is so ineffective. Everything starts up front with those three, and through two weeks, they look as good as ever. I'm eagerly awaiting word on Keisel's calf injury. I shouldn't even pretend to play doctor, but it can't be more than a 2-4 week thing, at worst, can it?
* Sticking with defensive lineman, how about Shaun Rogers? Man oh man did he come to play tonight. That guy's a monster, and if you have DVR or TiVo, see if you don't cringe on the play where he just hammered Big Ben in his right shoulder just as Roethlisberger released the ball. It wasn't a dirty play, though it could have been called considering LaMarr Woodley was flagged for something similar earlier in the game. Anyway, if Rogers brings it like that all season, Cleveland will eventually get some rhythm on offense and string together some victories. Their defense looked pretty good tonight, and much of it started with Rogers, and his mate Corey Williams, up front.
* Random (greedy) thought here by me. Am I the only one who was pissed that the Texans scored a cheap 14 points last week against us? In my head, which is often filled with megalomaniacal thoughts regarding the Steelers, I see this defense having an outstanding points per game allowed figure by year's end. That 17 Houston put up was cheap, and will certainly be higher than our yearly average.
* Jeff $$$ Reed. 48 yarder in swirling conditions. Right down the pipe. That kick was huge too in terms of the dynamics of the remainder of the game. He keeps coming through.
* On a similar note, tip your cap to Mitch Berger. 6 punts tonight, averaging 45.5 yards per. Of those six, four were downed inside the 20 yard line. That's great stuff. Berger most certainly played a role in this W.
* As did our coverage units. Joshua Cribbs had very little room to operate this go-around. What I saw was consistent discipline from all parties, staying in their lanes until just the right moment to swarm together to make a tackle. Outstanding. This, in fact, was one of those areas that was still a question mark. We're not out of the woods yet, as we'll be seeing plenty more good returners down the road. But again, so far so good.
* Aaron Smith is a great football player. Troy Polamalu deserves all the headlines and accolades he receives, but Aaron Smith really makes this defense go. (Along with Hampton in my opinion). He seems healthy and it's plainly visible in the way we're playing. With the encomium out of the way, I should say that, in all actuality, he was somewhat lucky tonight. On both his sacks I believe other guys led the charge, and he was just there to clean things up. But still, his presence is undeniably crucial for us.
* One more random thought: how incredibly vivacious does Dick LeBeau look in the sidelines at age 71?? My Lord. I mean, sure, 70 is the new 60, or whatever the hell they're saying, but wowzers, that man looks fit. For those who don't know, LeBeau is called Coach Dad by many on his defense. His players love to play for him, and I love to cheer for him and his players. Don't go anywhere Dick. You've got plenty of years left in ya.
* That was some strange stuff in the return game for us tonight. Can't say I was too impressed with Mewelde Moore and Rashard Mendenhall, but as John Madden noted, the windy conditions may be most detrimental to returnmen more than any other position on the field. In Moore's case, I t hought he actually did a good job getting out of harm's way and not taking an uncessary risk. Yes, he made it look painfully close to becoming disastrous, but at the end of the day, he avoided a costly mistake. That's what veterans do. In Mendenhall's case? Yikes. Not so savy. But in his defense, Carey Davis absolutely pummeled him going after the ball once it was loose. In Davis' defense, that's what he should do, go after the ball at all costs, but man, he sure almost made things worse. Mendenhall had a beat on the loose ball before Davis came crashing into him.
* Speaking of Madden, did anyone else notice that he couldn't contain his glee while rehashing that pulling block Kendall Simmons got to make on the Holmes reverse? Simmons, who faked like he was heading left to block, before circling around and pulling right, got to take on a wimpering CB in the flat. The CB just fell to the ground in self defense before Simmons could pancake him. The whole sequence nearly gave Madden the 4+ hour erection that Cialis warns against.
* Alan Who? Those who read here know I would never disparage Alan Faneca and what he did for this organizaiton. But wow, Chris Kemoeatu is playing great football. He had a couple issues in pass protection keeping the massive interior DL of the Browns out of Ben's face, but in the running game, he was outstanding.
* As was Kendall Simmons, Willie Colon, and not surprisingly, Marvel Smith. The Browns did finish with 3 sacks, but one of those was on Big Ben for sure. I was particuarly impressed with Smith and Colon in pass protection. On multiple occasions, they sealed the outside on crucial pass plays, giving Big Ben the time he needed to survey the field and deliver strikes. And in the running game, I thought our interior guys, including Hartwig, did a nice job. Hartwig was the only guy who was a bit overmatched tonight, but again, he did his job in the ground game, while doing his very best against two absolute beasts in Shaun Rogers and Corey Williams in the passing downs.
* 25 of 33. That's Ben Roethlisberger's passing line for the year. That's 75+% so far, with 3 TDs to 0 picks. Wow. Ben has the ability to take over games by himself, and now he seems to get when to step out of the way and let the defense take care of business when appropriate.
* One more thought about LeBeau. I thought it was brilliant to play the 'bend-but-don't-break' card during the Browns only meaningful drive of the game in the fourth quarter. A quick strike could have changed everything, but LeBeau forced Derek Anderson to earn every last yard on that drive. To Anderson's credit, he did a great job for the first 70 yards. But when you have to conver four or five tough 3rd downs in a drive, eventually your luck's going to run out, and you'll be forced to settle for 3 after having taken gobs of time off the clock. Very wise in my opinion, even if we had plenty of success with a bit more aggressive of a philosophy for most of the game.
* Props to Santonio Holmes for a big game. While Hines had the dropsies early on, Holmes was catching everything thrown his way, including an acrobatic bomb from Big Ben that led to Jeff Reed's 2nd half FG. Holmes will have better games numbers wise, but he was arguably our best offensive player tonight.
* Cheers to Bruce Arians for going back to Hines Ward after his second drop in the first half. Very next play after dropping a catchable pass in the endzone, Ben looks his way again. Perfect throw and catch and we're on the board first. Arians did the same thing during the preseason, calling Mendenhall's number after a costly fumble. I like that in a coach. 3 early TDs for Ward btw. Keep it up Hines!
* 2-0! 1-0 in the division and on the road. Enjoy it friends. This was Steelers-Browns football at its finest, with, of course, the better team coming out on top. Good times to those of you who joined me in the open thread. I look forward to the next one. More coming on this impressive, albeit ugly, victory.
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Here is what I am worried about
The cowboys blew away the browns. does that mean we are not on their level? I know they have a high level of talent and an outstanding offensive line but I cant but hope that at some point we will match them or at least be close so we can make a superbowl run.
My biggest worry is that we didnt score too many points. Granted There were several dropped passes (willie parker’s comes to mind) that could have given us a higher score and high number of penalties killed our drives, but can we truly match the elite teams out there( Giants, Cowboys, colts)- surprise surprise mostly NFC teams.
There are several reasons not to worry with regards to this game. But my concern is that I may be rationalizing and making excuses for the steelers.
For example:
1. the rain was awful and can account for the dropped passes. The defense slipped( I remember woodley falling on 1 or 2 plays for sure sacks)
2. penalties such as farriors taunting hurt us.
3. we seemed to have played a very very conservative game with heath miller blocking more than catching although he had some important plays for us
4. the browns have played us so many times they know our strengths and weaknesses better than they know the cowboys
5. this is a divisional game and the browns gave us their all in. I’m not sure they gave the cowboys the same level of attention (this could be the most important factor)
While all these are possibilities I’m afraid I’m merely making excuses for our win. I know a win is a win but what does it say about us? is it too early to tell or worry, should we be happy we got a win(why? we should strive for the best in us) or are the above reasons legit?
by surag238 on Sep 15, 2008 1:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nah
30-50 mph winds man. Plus, Browns played great today on defense. Lots of credit to them. This was in some ways, make or break game for them and they played like it. they just couldnt get it done when it mattered most.
I hear what you’re saying. But the circumstances in this game were a lot different than last week’s game against the Cowboys. It took Ben a quarter to get his bearings with the wind. What matters is our Line looked good, our ST looked good, we ran the ball fairly well, and our defense stayed healthy (fingers crossed Kisel) while dominating again.
by Blitzburgh on Sep 15, 2008 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
weather was simply too bad
Did anyone else have flashbacks to last year’s Mud Bowl? Granted the conditions weren’t that bad but weren’t conducive to a strong offensive performance either. It was simply murderous to throw the ball and so the Steelers ground it out in the running game and shut down the Browns running game. I certainly don’t think that you can compare the Cowboys’ victory to the Steelers’.
by cgolden on Sep 15, 2008 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus, division game. All or nothing for the brownies facing 0-2. Bouncing back from poor performance. Wind is huge factor. Great win.
by herewegosteelers on Sep 15, 2008 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Elite?
Who is Elite now a days. Brady gone, Indy not looking like themselves, Jax struggling, The boys can not be Elite till they win a playoff game. Right now Only Elite team I see that is clear cut, is the Giants (superbowl win last year, and playing a good 2 weeks of football). just my .02
* till next time wave those towels proud
by LiveinDCbutsteelerfanbyheart on Sep 15, 2008 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
there are more
You can’t hold past playoffs against a team as far as ‘elite’ status is concerned. A team starting off a season is definitely similar to the team that ended the previous one but by no means bound to their fate. Just look at how much different we are from this year to last. Come playoff time you can draw a few more conclusions from past playoff performances from units/players/coaches alike, but for now let’s stick with who’s looking great:
-NYG: Best point-spread in the league…they’re the team to beat until proven otherwise as far as I’m concerned. We’ll see what they’re made of in Weeks 8-12 (us, dallas, philly, baltimore, arizona).
-GB: Rodgers is looking fine.
-DAL and PHI: Put them together because we’ll see tonight if they both are elite or if just one is.
-DEN: Cutler = studmuffin
-PIT
By my count this year is looking to be held by the NFC…many teams on the rise over there while on our half we seem to see powerhouse teams dropping off….
by TheCincinnatiConqueror on Sep 15, 2008 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Style points don't matter
in road games against divisional opponents – particularly when played in the remnants of a hurricane. The fact is that our O – line and D -line played well enough to win, and considering those were the 2 big question marks coming into the season, I think that is reason enough to be satisfied, if not down-right excieted.
by Rougue_Behaviorist on Sep 15, 2008 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Final Score
was not indicative of the manner in which we outplayed them….that game felt more like 21-6 then 10-6, and the weather/elements were a big factor in that. i was never worried as even when it was 0-0 our offense showed a ton more than their O did.
by TheMostViolentTeam on Sep 15, 2008 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rogers' hit on Roethlisberger should have been a 15 yard penalty
Not only did the hit occur well after Ben released the ball but he specifically lowered his helmet and drove it into Roethlisberger’s right shoulder. It looked to me like he was deliberately trying to injure Roethlisberger. Fortunately, Ben was able to make one more big throw when we needed it (to Heath Miller). That play was huge.
I thought, in general, Ben threw the ball really well. Ward dropped two passes that he normally catches and Parker could have had the deep one or Ben’s stats would have been even better. On the deep ball to Parker he appeared to have Ward wide open for what would have been a 20 yard gain.
by houksyndrome on Sep 15, 2008 3:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
agree completely
I saw what certainly looked like a deliberate extra way late hit. He didn’t even start his move toward Ben until the ball was basically released, and then “chance would have it” that he just happened to go helmet first into the right shoulder. Lucky bastard, getting away with that. I almost started breaking things when I saw that.
Brandona
by PrimantisStillersNAt on Sep 15, 2008 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, or better yet
Woodly’s 15 yarder should not have been a penalty – it was far less egregious.
by Rougue_Behaviorist on Sep 15, 2008 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yah
Woodley already had his arms around Anderson as he released the ball and simpy fell forward (he didnt drive him into the ground), whereas Rogers took a full two steps after Roethlisberger released the ball and lowered his shoulder into him.
by TheMostViolentTeam on Sep 15, 2008 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe the ref's explanation...
“[he] wrapped him up and drove him into the ground.” So if you are taking notes, when it come the quaterback a defensive player cannot 1) hit him above the shoulders 2) hit him below the waste 3) hit him while leading with the helmet, and 4) wrap him up and drive him into the groud. Which leaves what, pushing his own lineman into him, blowing him over with a huff and a puff, scaring him out of bounds or into submission – pretty hard to do when you can’t hit the guy.
Truth is I am fine with Roger’s hit; just not after you penalize Woodly for a fine defensive play.
by Rougue_Behaviorist on Sep 15, 2008 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the problem
is Woodley already was in the act of wrapping him up, and his momentum took them to the ground, Woodley didn’t DRIVE him into the ground, he just fell cause he couldn’t stop after already lunging forward before the pass was released. Stupid rule.
by TheMostViolentTeam on Sep 15, 2008 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought we played ok on the whole
We ran pretty well, even in situations when they knew we were going to run. IIRC, our pass protection only looked awful on two plays (a first quarter sack, where nobody blocked anyone, and another play where Marvel Smith got burned). Rogers’ sack occurred on a play where a DB blitzed unexpectedly and Roethlisberger didn’t get rid of the ball in time and basically moved forward right into Rogers. It is hard to fault the OL too much for that one.
In general, we had a lot of drive-killing mistakes, for example Hartwig’s holding call, or Ward’s drop on our first? series. Our lack of points primarily resulted from these mistakes. Another factor was our extremely conservative play-calling. It seems like the plan was to not make TOs and use our running game and D to win. The plan worked, a win is a win. If we had thrown more, a ball might have slipped out of Ben’s hand to set up the Browns for an easy score.
I have two primary concerns going forward:
1. Our DL and LBs were generally unable to beat their OL and get pressure on Anderson. IIRC, our sacks were both more coverage sacks than us swarming through their line. Then again, Cleveland’s line is said to be very good in pass protection.
2. Injuries: I hope Keisel and Big Ben are OK. I like Keisel way more than Eaton.
Here are some goods:
1. Big Ben played a great game under the circumstances (weather + injuries) he made a lot of great throws and didn’t make mistakes.
2. Kemoeatu did great, IMO. There were several very well-blocked running plays in general.
3. Our run D was impressive. Lewis was running really hard tonight, and we did a good job of gang tackling him.
4. Our kickoff/punt coverage teams seem 180deg from last year. After Rogers’ dirty hit on Roethlisberger, Harrison came down and hit Cribbs helmet-to-helmet on the punt return. Not sure if the latter was related to the former, but I liked the way we tackled in special teams in general.
5. Polamalu is creating turnovers again.
6. We are 2-0
That’s all I can think of right now.
by houksyndrome on Sep 15, 2008 4:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
good thoughts
Welcome to the site. Good first offerings, for sure.
Agree with lots of your points. Wouldnt be so concerned with the pass rush just yet. Browns did a good job, and in many instances, we were happy to play more shell coverage, than bring the house via the blitz.
Love #5. So huge that P’s making plays for us again.
by Blitzburgh on Sep 15, 2008 4:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree w/ your concerns for Keisel but
bear in mind that the Browns gave up the second fewest sacks in the league last year, so they are a pretty solid unit. I was happy that Anderson didn’t have all day to look around, and though wed didn’t neccessarily collapse the pocket, we did manage to make it rather snug
by Rougue_Behaviorist on Sep 15, 2008 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Polamalu
Now thats the maniac i remember. Great to see him making plays. Two picks already. Hopefully he stays healthy because this could be a big year for him, and the defense in general.
by SteelerDomination on Sep 15, 2008 4:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Troy
I didn’t get to watch the whole game because Ike (not Taylor) somehow knocked out power in most of Ohio. Anyway, what I did see was Troy making some great plays. Leaping over lines, driving TE’s into the RB, breaking up passes, picking off balls, and holding Winslow in check for most of the game. Good, good stuff. He looks like a lot more than just a run stuffing safety.
charity standing orders
by BadMaafala on Sep 15, 2008 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Arians
Looks like he might have learned something from that horrendous QB sweep call in the playoff game against Jax last year. I can’t tell you how glad/relieved I was to see him call that playaction pass to Miller for the huge first down with under 3 minutes to go. That play basically iced the game. Prior to that, I was having visions of him sending Willie/Ben straight up the middle three straight times and then punting. (Also agree with Blitz that he deserves props for going right back to Ward for the TD after the drop.)
by nycsteeler on Sep 15, 2008 6:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts...
Just three peripheral points since Blitz and the others covered it well…
1) The old adage that you are rarely as bad as you look (Browns vs, Dallas) or as good as you look (Steelers vs. Texans) once again holds true. When your team wins the opener as we did, we can’t help in the backs of our minds think that maybe, just maybe, we could be like the 2005 Colts or 2007 Patriots or 1984 49ers or 1985 Bears where we basically come out and impose our will every week. Just maybe we have strengths all over the place with nary a weakness. That will not be the case. We may have a very good team capable of doing something very special, but this will be a dog fight all season so buckle your chin straps.
2) It amazes me how fans of any team with Braylon Edwards could call Hines Ward a punk. Edwards drops passes every single game (though Hines dropped a pair yesterday), is more interested in talking gabage than thinking about the game, and has even “punked” the city’s icon athlete, LeBron James. At least Hines caught two HUGE passes yesterday, including the game winner. Edwards has light years to go before he is Hines Ward. Edwards has now dropped six passes this year, incredible after only two games, which is more than Hines Ward has dropped in five years.
3) Romeo Crennel is Ohio’s new version of John Cooper. Cooper did just enough each year to have his contract renewed, but could never beat his rival or win the big one. Cooper won eight games every year, which I could have done also with the talent differential that Ohio State always has against Big 10 opponents. He is riding that 8-3 wave into the College Football Hall of Fame. Michigan fans, however, were delighted when his contract kept getting renewed, for good reason. Last year’s 10-6 Browns’ record was good for us. Crennel got an extension. Unless the Browns implode, he will keep his job. We need him to win just enough to keep that job. The end of the first half was horrible and the field goal with a minute and a half was worse. He did the same field goal thing a week ago against Dallas. When I saw Phil Dawson trotting on the field, I shouted then as loudly as with the Ward touchdown.
by maryrose on Sep 15, 2008 8:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Crennel Point
One point that I can’t believe no one has made yet – That was one of the worst coaching performances I’ve seen. From a clock management standpoint at the end of the first half – to the use of their timeouts at the end of the game. I could not believe it. We did just enough to get the W – I was getting nervous at points though. It reminded me of the Tennessee/UCLA game this season. Where UCLA dominated the first half but wasn’t up much. They ended up losing game. Bring on the Iggles!!!!
by smashmouthsteel on Sep 15, 2008 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tenn
Just reread – correction – Tennessee dominated first half and lost.
by smashmouthsteel on Sep 15, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh dont worry
I was going to get there. I was just first emphasizing what we did, not them.
by Blitzburgh on Sep 15, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1) Braylon Edwards isn’t a dirty player, he isn’t a cheap shot artist who deliberately tries to injure other players.
2) Braylon Edwards doesn’t talk 1/8 as much trash as Hines Ward. Seriously, where does this rep come from? We haven’t been on national tv in 5 years, and sports illustrated/espn just found out we had a team last December. Where does this “Edwards talks trash” rep come from? Did he say a word last night? No. Did he say a word all week? No. Wtf? I think even Hines would admit he talks more trash than the entire Cleveland Browns team combined, and he’d be proud of the fact.
3) Hines Ward had about 3 drops in the Super Bowl, he drops balls with the best of them. I’m flabbergasted anytime someone tries to credit him with good hands. He’s a bit like Braylon, he makes really tough/spectacular catches (usually when getting hit and hanging on), but you always see some easy ones bouncing off his chest and hitting the turf. But yes, there’s a reason Edwards was second in the league in drops last year.
4) Braylon Edwards was only trying (stupidly and in vain) to defend that mis-identified “icon”, b/c that stupid idiot likes to fraternize with the enemy when attending games in Cleveland: wearing a Yankees hat to a playoff game b/w the Tribe and Yankees in Cleveland, as well as proclaiming the Cowboys are his favorite team and hanging out with them on the sidelines in Cleveland (I’m surprised you could get this one so wrong, maryrose, since you usually exhibit some sense of knowledge about Cleveland fans).
Yes, Romeo sucks. He’s completely awful, and he’s holding the team back.
by kwoog on Sep 15, 2008 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
kwoog
quit it with the “cheap shot artist” crap, unless you want to start that argument again, let it go. ridiculous. Ward does have good hands. Period, he drops the ball sometimes and you can’t blame any of the receivers last night with 40 MPH wind and rain, that’s tough, even for the pros. Ward rarely has alot of drops over a whole season. Romeo sucks, but Anderson isn’t exactly lighting it up either, and neither is the Browns O-line, in run-blocking, we were stopping the run with six defenders regularly. Agree Ward talks alot, everyone in the NFL does, I don’t care about trash-talking whoever does it. I didn’t disagree with Romeo’s FG call as much as most Browns fans (obviously). 4th and 4 (or was it 7), either way, the Browns averaged 3.6 yards per play in the game, so the odds weren’t in their favor.
by TheMostViolentTeam on Sep 15, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No doubt the better team won. I was merely responding to the (ridiculous) comments about Ward and Edwards.
by kwoog on Sep 16, 2008 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
C'mon Kwoog
You have tried this line before.
Ward is one of the best all-around receivers in the league because he isn’t just a giant ego with hands.
Here is a guy who plays football, plain and simple. He makes his living getting absolutely clobbered by linebackers and safeties and when he has the good football sense to return the favor you think its cheap. Nope its football. The guy is out there winning ball games in the trenches, while Ocho Sinco, TO and Braylon are doing commercials and dreaming about their new signing bonus.
Not to mention that this guy is a flat out leader on the team. He sets the tone for a physical offense and makes everybody play harder. I love what he has done in mentoring Holmes.
Ward was an enormous reason that Pittsburgh won the game last night. Edwards, for all his talent was not a difference maker. I think its time you gave Hines the respect that he has earned on the field.
by SteelerBuddha on Sep 15, 2008 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
kwoog
You are not on the same page as the Cleveland announcers last night who made a rare exception of calling Edwards out for trash talking and not getting back in the huddle, nor the scores of phone calls from Browns fans to the postgame radio show “End Zone” (I believe) who are tired of Edwards droped passes and various antics. My knowledge of Cleveland fans is based on listening to that radio show, and I can assure you what they were saying is far different than your take.
by maryrose on Sep 15, 2008 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
IF i wasnt a steeler i would hate hines too
like brian billick said i hate hines ward but i sure wish he was on my team
by 86_STRONGER_THAN_STEEL on Sep 15, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he caught passes that hit him in the hands, no one would be calling in and saying anything. They’d be like you guys, “loving” how he “gets his teammates fired up” and “leads them.”
by kwoog on Sep 16, 2008 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
IF i wasnt a steeler i would hate hines too
like brian billick said i hate hines ward but i sure wish he was on my team
by 86_STRONGER_THAN_STEEL on Sep 15, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agree with most everything here
would add that on the final 4th down, would rather the steelers had gone max protect and taken a shot at the endzone. Clock stops anyway, they were outside the 20 so an int in the endzone would have been fine and a turnover seems less likely. Less risk and much greater reward than running.
and that timeout call by tomlin, wow, you almost never see the defense encroach in those 4th down situations anyway
if the eagles beat the cowboys tonight, it’s gonna be a monster game coming up
by vherub on Sep 15, 2008 10:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DaTruth Giving It To Ya Straight With No Chaser
What up, Blitz & Steelers Nation? Just another day in the life of the DaTruth. Let’s get it popping!
— Grinding out football is a beautiful thing only in the eye of the beholder. Last night’s game wasn’t a Mona Lisa or Rembrandt, but 2-0 is, especially the way Tomlin has them dudes breathing fire. They’re balling.
— The weather played a big factor in last night’s game and usually favors the time that has less talent and wants to keep the game close. It prevented the Steelers from opening it up like they wanted to. The one good thing about bad weather is that Ben has proved that he is a “Mudda,” and a pretty bad “Mudda” $!!!$## at that. Enjoy him, my brethren. One of him only comes around for a football team once every 20 years.
— This defense is legit. I give Cleveland props for bottling up Debo & L. Woodley on the pass rush but limiting any team to a 2-yard per carry average is winning football in the L.
— Yep, the more violent team did win last night. No shocker there.
— If Tomlin doesn’t trust Mende-licious to run the ball, then give Gary Russell some burn. Willie will not play 16 games toting the rock 28 times a game. Especially when 360-lb lineman like Big Baby Shaun Rogers is using him as a human seat-cushion.
— To John Madden & Al Michaels, if Ben throws the ball like that with a separated shoulder and 50 mph winds, what in the world will he do when he is healthy and in good weather? I think Ben’s shoulder is sore, but I also don’t think he is anywhere near the trip to the emergency room that the announcers made him out to be.
— Man, is that our special teams running down on punts & kickoffs? Also, if Gary Russell gets playing time, he can return kickoffs because he did it in college. Swapping Mendenhall out for Russell until he proves he can hold on to the ball is an option. Then again, maybe Men-Delicious has left that fumbling problem in preseason. Either way, this team needs some answers on who will lighten the load for Willie.
— Hines = BEAST in red zone. Also look for Ben to throw quite a few TD’s this year from the 3-tight end pkg this year in the red zone. McHugh, Miller, & Speath are all big targets in that area.
— BMac made him some money last night. I hope he gets to cash those checks from the Steelers. He’s better than Ike is right now. What’s wrong with having a good young CB that fights for the ball, plays decent coverage and hits like a LB? Keeping him let’s you spend next year’s top 3 picks on something other than a CB. Keep him.
— Where are all of the Chicken Little people boasting that the sky will fall now that this team no longer has Alan Faneca? I agree with Blitz. No need to disparage Faneca’s past contributions here. But just like the regular world, change is inevitable and sometimes it works for the better. I’d rather have Kemo for the next 5 years at his next price than Alan for the next 5 years with $31M guaranteed. What about you?
— Willie Colon, you keep playing like this, DaTruth will send you flowers & a box of cholocates and ask for your forgiveness. Life is like a box of chocolates, anyway, ain’t that right Forrest?
— Hated to see the Diesel go down, but it didn’t look too serious. DaTruth had a bird’s eye view from a seat in Heinz Field this past week and he couldn’t believe his eyes when no. 93 was all over the field making plays. Yep, Steelers, I’m wondering who put on the jersey of no. 93 these past 2 games and what did they do with Nick Eason. He is playing some pretty decent football on a position of need for us. I guess we’ll see if Orpheus ha anything left in the tank. I’m all for having 7 lineman this year. On this defense, if these 7 can hold the point, our linebackers can continue to be who they are — the best and deepest LB core in the league.
— Also, you’ve got to love those opening day uniforms at Heinz Field. DaTruth isn’t talking about the Steelers. He’s talking about all of the jerseys with jean mini-skirts that he noticed at Heinz Field being adorned by the ladies of Steelers Nation. Very Nice standard issued uni & DaTruth likey. In fact, DaTruth likey a lot.
— M. Smith, B. McFadden, Chris K. To borrow a line from my man Larry The Cable Guy, K. Colbert just “Get’er DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
Thoughts?
Ooopsss, Blitz, I think I did it again! That’s give it to BTSC like DaTruth usually does.
Be blessed all and hit me back with your thoughts.
by datruth4life on Sep 15, 2008 10:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Great post Truth
Agree with you and Blitz about Kemo. My Goodness. Not only did he beast-handle a 350 lb DLineman at the point of attack, but he was sprinting 15 yards up field searching to see if there were any Brownie linebackers on the field. He looked like a great big mountain of mean.
by SteelerBuddha on Sep 15, 2008 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gary Russell
It’ll take an injury for Russell to be active on game days. He’s simply not in the top three on the depth chart. If he brought something to the table that FWP, Mendy or Moore didn’t have, he’d be on the field. Russell may be able to play on another team in this league but the Steelers have too many guys that are better players.
Oh and Russell’s not a kick returner, he averaged 16.3 yards per return on 11 chances during his two years at Minnesota.
by cgolden on Sep 15, 2008 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ike is playing pretty good man. I wouldn’t say McFadden is playing better. Haven’t heard number 24 called much at all. Thats a good thing. (Keep in mind, he is also going up against The O’s best player.
by zeke5123 on Sep 15, 2008 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually
Although I thought Ike played well and didn’t notice any times he got beat, McFadden was covering Braylon pretty much all day. The coaches must have thought he’d be a better match on him cause he was all over Edwards on every play.
by Chicago Steeler on Sep 15, 2008 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
B-Mac
wasn’t following Edwards, it’s just the Browns sent Edwards to B-Mac’s side of the field (Ike has done very, very well against Edwards in the past is probalby why) more often than not.
by TheMostViolentTeam on Sep 15, 2008 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you sure?
B-Mac seemed to be on the defense’s left side consistently with Edwards. Ike usually runs the left, I believe.
by Chicago Steeler on Sep 15, 2008 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
B-Mac is
the backup to DeShea who is our LCB this year. We swapped Ike and ‘Shea. Ike is the starting RCB now. While historically people would think this is a demotion, actually it’s for two reasons 1) more and more teams put their best receiver on that side (Browns aren’t one of them as Braylon usually goes left with Winslow on the right, but look at T.O., Reggie Wayne, Larry Fitzgerald, etc who all line up against the RCB) and 2) because there are less “combo” routes on the right side of the field, so Ike can just play the guy man to man which he is better at than Deshea, and Deshea is better at deciphering routes, so the left is a better fit. So yes, Edwards was on the left against B-Mac alot, but that wasn’t because B-Mac was following him around, it’s because Edwards was coming to his side of the field.
by TheMostViolentTeam on Sep 15, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good Game
Love the site and am glad to be a part. I think our guys played a good game considering the adverse weather and field conditions. I do have one concern. I noticed Lamar Woodley out in pass coverage a lot in this game. Is this a trend or was it due to the field conditions negating much of his explosiveness. I hope it’s the latter as he is too powerful to spend lots of time in coverage.
by woody71 on Sep 15, 2008 11:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
welcome
I think that we were asking Woodley to drop into coverage more against the Browns. Couldn’t tell you exactly why, but I don’t think it has anything to do with him not being able to get after the QB. Against certain offenses and schemes, he’ll be asked to put his head down and rush the QB much of the day. Other days he’ll be asked to play out in space a bit more.
by Blitzburgh on Sep 15, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a nice smashmouth football game
Yes that Roger’s hit on Ben should have been a 15 yarder, just like Woodley’s.
I loved the Clark hit on Edwards that shook up both players, that was a hard friggin hit. Polomolu’s throwdown of K2 to keep him from getting a first down brought a smile to my face. McFadden stealing the ball from Edwards was awesome, but even prettier was his pass defense late in the game. The Farrior tackle on Lewis, where Lewis dragged him two yards made me cringe, how many other running backs get thrown two yards the other direction from Farrior? Lewis played strong, the Browns played strong. We played stronger.
A lot of mistakes were made, on both sides of the ball, to include coaching blunders.
Reed’d field goal in the wind was a thing of beauty. Timmon’s hit on Cribbs sent Cribbs limping off the field. I did see Kemo toss Rogers aside on one play, and Hartwig impose his will a few times, unfortunately I also saw Hartwig get pushed back quite a bit too.
The throw to FWP was a perfect pass with two defenders on him. No excuse for that one, went right through his arms.
All in all, I was entertained. Would have loved to see a Woodley and Harrison sack though.
"Damnit mom! You almost ran over Greg Lloyd!"
at an autograph signing back in 95. He walked out in front of our minivan, and my mom almost hit him. He apologized.
by PA ARMY OFFICER on Sep 15, 2008 11:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Too late to post all that much
Since you boys have already covered most of the bases. Great posts by all.
I did want to add one little bit about my adopted Steeler son, Ryan Clark. For the second game in a row he was out there putting the “fun” in fundamental. When something slips by our pack of hungry line backers Clark is there to lay a vicious hit on it. I am a little worried about his health, since he has come up rattled two weeks in a row, but both times he was right back in the game and making big plays. He put a beautiful hit on Edwards in the fourth.
More than anything, I think Clark’s play allows a healthy Troy to swirl around the field like a tornado in a trailer park. He knows that Mr. Fun-da-mental is roving in the defensive backfield ready to clean up what ever comes his way.
by SteelerBuddha on Sep 15, 2008 11:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
2-0
It wasn’t 3-2 but it was damn close. This may have only been a game of beauty to Steelers fans. To me it was a masterpiece. I will always take and be proud of a W. The Steelers are 2-0 and in early control of the AFCN.
Was impressed with Arians and Zeirlien. In horrible weather, Arians kept Cleve guessing all night. Going right back to Ward on the early TD pass after Hines dropped one on the previous throw was awesome. The pass to Ward from the 2 yard line in the 4th quarter to dig the Steelers out of the hole was HUGE in the field position game. Arians late call to throw to Heath Miller on second down trying to run out the clock was also an awesome call. That was a play he should have used against Jax last year! The Steelers ran out the clock with FWP and that was something they couldn’t do all last year. (see NYJ, Jax and Denv) Hats off to FWP and the O line for running off all but 26 seconds at the end of the game. My only Arians agonizing moment was on the 4th down call with under a minute to go., Instead of running FWP into the line which stopped the clock on the possession change, why not try a pass there? I guess if the Cleve DB picks it off and runs the distance (see NE) I’m singing a different tune. Since we got the win, Arians made the correct call. After watching Romeo Crennel coach, I guess I shouldn’t bitch about Arians. Crennel is a disaster. He needs to study clock management 101 (see first half) and grow a set of balls. (see FG in 4th quarter)
Thought Ben was gutsy. No one reported he had a separated shoulder! What a stud to go out there and zip the ball around in 50 MPH winds with that injury! Also, how do you flag Woodley for a late hit on Anderson but then allow that monster Shaun Rodgers to throw a shoulder into Ben and knock him to the ground seconds after the ball was released? That was a blatant 15 especially if the Woodley call is legit. Again, the O line could have protected better but that Cleve line is large. Loved the Marvel Smith block on the CB. (CB dives out of the way!) and Kemo looked like he blasted a couple people. Bottom line; FWP over 100. The best O players on the field were Ward and Holmes. When you don’t throw to the WR every play they need to make them count. While Ward dropped a couple early he surely atones. The big catch Holmes made in the second half was the direct reason we scored a FG.
The D continued to play great. They truly were the more violent team and deserved the W keeping the Browns out of the end zone all night long. McFadden had a great pick and hopefully will start pushing DeShea for more PT. Troy was all over the field. The leap into the backfield was stellar! That scares me though as 43 could have easily gotten hurt on that play. Ryan Clark continues to hit like a train and play like a stud. Concerned about Kiesel. The D slipped when he went out and while Eason and especially Kirscke made some plays, Kiesel is a Diesel.
Mendenhall looked like Barry Foster on the one KO almost letting the Browns recover. Was happy that Mewelde didn’t flub anything in those conditions. Could’ve meant the game. That pass to Hines by Ben out of the end zone was a big play and stifled the Browns in the field position game. Reed is money. GREAT KICK OFFS! Is he on roids this year? GREAT LONG FG! 48 yards into a hurricane. That’s freakin awesome. Berger continues to be the steady veteran P we need and the coverage units simply swamped Cribbs all night.
It only gets tougher. At Philly on Sunday. The D will have it’s hands full with Donovan McNabb. Control the clock Steelers! When you run the ball, good things happen.
When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen
by 5020 on Sep 15, 2008 11:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Glad to see that Arians is getting some props.
I often find myself defending coach/coordinators, but I am much happier joining the chorus of praise. I thought that BA called a wonderful game last night, showing good balance in weather conditions that would lend themselves to a run heavy game plan. Moreover, I am delighted to by the confidence that he showed in his units – allowing Ben to through the ball early and often despite the wind and a less than impeccable start; going back to Ward right after a dropped pass; relying on the offensive line to protect by call a pass play on 2nd down at our own two; going to Parker on 4th and 1 (even though I suspect that Tomlin had a say on that call). All in all a gutsy game plan that was rewarded by solid execution. 3 cheers to consistency.
by Rougue_Behaviorist on Sep 15, 2008 12:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Some points
- Good to have you back Troy. Leaping an offensive lineman may not have been your best play of the night, but it was fun to watch.
- Willie Colon is not an offensive tackle.
- Chris K is not human. At the second level, he’s a bulldozer in a uniform.
- Rogers will dominate in the first half and disappear in the second all season.
- The wind was a huge equalizer.
- It’s disappointing to see the Browns gets so much out of passes to Lewis, considering how great the Steelers have been at neutralizing pass-catching RBs these last two year
- The clutch skill players for each side were on display: Ben, Hines, Santonio, and Heath, and Jamal Lewis and Kellen Winslow.
- Some nice play-calling: Going back to Hines in the EZ after the drop, and going for the fourth and 1 after the unfortunate TO.
- That said, it seems like the Steelers were passing a lot early when the wind was at its worse, and running late when the wind had died down and the Browns started to make some throws. That said, we were protecting a lead, and it worked.
- Abraham Lincoln, about Gen. Grant’s supposed drunkenness: “What brand of whiskey does he drink, because I would like to send a cask to each of my generals.” If Ben throws like that with a separated shoulder in swirling winds, maybe he should just have Mario Williams crush him before every game.
by Desroko on Sep 15, 2008 12:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and it's good to see Willie
holding up well in a grinding game, after making it look easy last week. I’d still like to see Mendy get more carries – I thought this “run him until the wheels fall off” crap was over.
by Desroko on Sep 15, 2008 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Zastudil
How could he punt so far into the wind? He was amazing, and made a huge difference in the first half especially.
by Desroko on Sep 15, 2008 12:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yah
he was the Browns best player by far in the first half, and a big part of the reason the Steelers weren’t up by alot more at halftime.
by TheMostViolentTeam on Sep 15, 2008 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
McFadden vs. Ike
All,
— There is a reason why LeBeau made the switch of moving Ike to the right side of the defense and moved D. Townsend to the left — teams with right-handed QBs throw more to the their right (and the defense’s left side) and neither does Townsend or McFadden usually give receivers the cushion that Ike does. Both are more susceptible to jump a route than Ike is also.
— Mendenhall might be more talented than G. Russell, but if the coaches don’t trust him to carry the ball right now, what does that matter? The bottom line is that Fast Willie will be Broken Up & Slow Willie unless they find somebody to take some of his carries on this team.
— For the earlier comment on here that Willie Colon isn’t a tackle, he’s sure doing a pretty good imitation of one so far. I don’t think he’s even had a pressure come from his side this year, not to even mention a sack. He’s playing well.
— Mewelde Moore has looked better as a third-down back than punt returner during the preseason and the first 2 games, but I’m still giving him the benefit of the doubt until he shows that he sucks. If Mendy & Moore show something on returns, our special teams could be a strength this year instead of a weak link. Who woulda thunk it?
by datruth4life on Sep 15, 2008 3:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
good points
except the CBs. more teams now put their best receiver out to their left, and the right side of the defense. Owens, Fitzgerald, Wayne. also teams run combination routes (double-moves) more often to their right (defense left) and Deshea is better at reading routes than Ike. but do agree McFadden and Townsend give less cushion so that helps eliminate the short throws, and Ike gives a big cushion because he is our best run-supporting CB so he can watch the backfield and then also react to the receiver coming at him, and those short throws are harder for a right handed QB to get off to his left when he has to turn his body around first, so it makes sense in that way. just pointing out it’s not a demotion for Ike, he still is the best cover man we have, it just makes our defense work better. props to LeBeau for recognizing that.
by TheMostViolentTeam on Sep 15, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agree about COlon
He’s playing fantastic. Couldn’t ask for anything better in fact so far through 2 games.
by Blitzburgh on Sep 15, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DB's were wicked hitters last night
Troy P and Ryan Clark were flat out awesome last night. The way they threw their bodies around it looked like THEY were the ones creating all of that swirling wind…Tasmanian Devil style!!!!!
Does anyone know what happened during a commercial time out that caused the Steelers to get a taunting call? It seemed to me that both teams were doing alot of trash talking the entire game.
by Steev1705 on Sep 15, 2008 8:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Farrior Flipped Off the Dog Pound
Farrior and Foote were jawing with the Dawg Pound all night, and they were really relishing Clark being shaken up and Farrior returned a nasty gesture with one of his own.
"Damnit mom! You almost ran over Greg Lloyd!"
at an autograph signing back in 95. He walked out in front of our minivan, and my mom almost hit him. He apologized.
by PA ARMY OFFICER on Sep 16, 2008 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
comments
1. 2-0 & 1-0 in the division and on the road is huge.
2. Kemoeatu is the real deal. People forget he only dropped to the 6th round from a projected third, was the “anger management” issues. I think he managed his anger quite well on a few linebackers last night.
3. Ben is playing at an unreal level, as is Parker. He looks bigger this year and put the spin move in.
4. The D line played great against the run, but needed a better pass rush.
5. Polamalu is back.
6. Mendenhall got zero touches at RB because of the weather & score. If we were up two Td’s, he’d have a few carries. Parker needs help.
7. It’s looking like a good year, keep it up. I have a lot of Steelers on a fantasy team and I admit that I’m “homer”, but I tell the other players that I come from a good home.
by BabushkaPower on Sep 15, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
HINES WARD IS THE GREATEST ATHLETE EVER
that touchdown celebration last night had me rolling thats what a dog does after it pisses on something
by 86_STRONGER_THAN_STEEL on Sep 15, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ward's Celebration
It was directed right at the Dawg Pound too. Classic!!
by _ET_ on Sep 16, 2008 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
reminds me of
when we played the Eagles a few years ago and Hines caught that TD and started doing the TO ‘wing flapping’ thing. I think I’m remembering that right. Hines is a beast!
Brandona
by PrimantisStillersNAt on Sep 16, 2008 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What kind of blog is this?
From the miasma of sports blogs comes BTSC with intelligent analysis and big words-
hegemony, megalomaniacal, encomium, vivacious.
Where did youn’s guys come from? I will read every day.
by Bob from Virginia on Sep 16, 2008 7:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice!
Yeah Blitz has really been showing off his vocabulary recently. Welcome to the site, it’s always a good time.
by Chicago Steeler on Sep 16, 2008 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Found this play-by-play of the game
via footballoutsiders:
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2008/09/upon_further_review_defensive.html
by vherub on Sep 16, 2008 10:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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