There Will Be No More Wondering Where Rashard Mendenhall Is Come Next Monday
RB Rashard Mendenhall, the Steelers 1st round draft pick in this year's draft, will get his first start in the NFL next Monday night when the Steelers take on the Baltimore Ravens in front of a national audience.
Even when we were rolling along during weeks 1 and 2, it was mentioned that perhaps Delicious should be taking some of Parker's carries, not because Parker wasn't producing, but instead to simply keep Parker fresh while getting the rookie's feet wet sooner rather than later.
Now there will be no cautiously wading into the shallow end. It's a head first swan dive into the deep end instead for Mendenhall, who will make his starting debut against the Baltimore Ravens. Somewhat ironically, I suppose, Mendenhall's opportunity comes against a team that Willie Parker has struggled against historically. One might try to make the argument that Parker lacked the 'inside-the-tackle' toughness necessary to take on a stout Ravens' defense, but I think that's probably a bit unfair. Even a few years ago, when our offensive line was in better shape than it is now, we still weren't world beaters in the trenches, no matter what the broadcasters and pundits led you to believe.
Mendenhall has a huge opportunity to make himself a fan favorite for years to come with a big game in FWP's absence
We'll take a closer look at the Ravens' defense as well as what they like to do against us to negate our rushing attack later today and throughout the week in preparation for next Monday's pivotal AFC North battle for early season supremacy.
For now, use this thread to discuss what your expectations are for our prize draft pick out of Illinois.
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I'm a little nervous
This is one game where I really wanted to see the tandem. You’re gonna get tired running on the ravens, and you’re gonna have to throw some serious blocks (see FWP blocking ray-ray on one of Big Boy’s TDs Monday night last year).
Either way delicious is gonna have to hit the tackles and catch some passes. They will be blitzing big time.
Let’s see who’s out for the raven D
SS Dawan Landry
NT Kelly Gregg
CB Samari Rolle injured his shoulder late in the game on Sunday but he said that expects to play Monday
Eh, better than nothing I guess.
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
by showtime on Sep 24, 2008 7:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't know how good the baltimore d is
Cincy and Cleveland both went out of their way to make the Ravens look formidable, but the run defense doesn’t seem as tough as last year. They limited an unimpressive Chris Perry to under 2.5 ypc. But Jamal Lewis gained 56 yards on 12 carries. The Steelers defense did a better job handling him and the Browns. I still think Baltimore has a good defense, but haven’t been tested yet.
I also think the steeler defense would destroy their own offensive line if given the chance.
by vherub on Sep 24, 2008 10:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m worried about their running game personally. They rushed 90 times in their two games, damn. I mean, clearly they’re worried about the rookie QB, but they have been very successful with the run. With our D-line hurting I hope we can keep it together. I think even with our backups though our run D is better than cleveland/cincy.
by steelguy99 on Sep 24, 2008 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lewis gained most of his yards...
…on third and long carries when the Ravens were focused on stopping Derek Anderson (22.9 QB rating). We knew Lewis couldn’t beat us and saw what Anderson along with Winslow and Edwards did to us last year, so the Ravens’ goal was to stop them, which I think they did a pretty good job.
If the Steelers can limit the Ravens harrassment of Roethlisberger and give him time, he’ll find Ward, Holmes and Miller and put the Ravens in a hole. If they can’t protect him, then it will be a long night for Ben and the Pittsburgh faithful.
You Steeler fans post great insight and make reasonable comments, as opposed to the nasty foul-mouthed and personal attacks made by the Browns fans. Good luck (uh,…sort of)!
Rexx
by Rexx on Sep 24, 2008 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Two trains of though
The only way Mendenhall gets the most popular pick of total rushing yards in the above poll is if the Steelers win the battle of turnovers and the Steelers are trying to run down the clock and protect the lead. Mendenhall will probably average three yards a carry against the tough Ravens defense. Ben will have to employ a variety of quick plays to keep the Ravens defense off him all night, as the Steelers pass protection is even compromised further without Parker, who knows the pass blocking schemes a lot better than Mendenhall.
However, if the Ravens get the lead or the game is too close to worry about the clock, there’s no way Mendenhall gets the yards as the Steelers will not be succeeding there and will have to resort to the passing game to move the ball. The Ravens defense is healthy this year as compared to last season, and a repeat of the embarrassment on Monday Night Football a year ago just is not going to repeat!
Good luck.
Rexx
by Rexx on Sep 24, 2008 10:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and even in the MNF game
we couldn’t run: FWP had 42 yards on 23 carries, so 1.8 ypc. If both corners are healthy, I don’t like our matchup on offense. This game could end up 6-3 or something, depending on how well the Ravens can run with Hampton out. Honestly, I doubt Mendy will get more than 50 yards on the ground, and lord knows we won’t use him in the passing game.
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by BadMaafala on Sep 24, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His 'soft' label will get a test for sure
He’ll get an awful good chance to shut up his detractors with his first career start against the Ray-Ray-Ravens. I’m interested to see what the game plan is and if they depend on Ben even more now. If he gets 18-20 carries, he’ll get up around 70 yards and probably score a TD. The Ravens certainly aren’t going to jump out to a lead that would prevent the Steelers from running the ball so he’ll get his chances.
Is anyone else excited to see MM with some extended time on the offense? I want to see if they try to get him the ball on third downs and out of the backfield.
by cgolden on Sep 24, 2008 10:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You mean you want to see if Arians will remove his head from sphincter?
by steelguy99 on Sep 24, 2008 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm more worried...
that with a rookie RB Arians will have an excuse to abandon the running game again. I hope I’m dead wrong, but the early success or non-success of the run game will probably tell the tale of the game and how Arians approaches it.
by SCSteeler on Sep 24, 2008 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me too
…zero confidence in Arians to stick to the run when neither the run nor pass is working (see “Last Week”). That said, in addition to MM we have Davis & I believe Russell suited up for this one.
Still, I’m pulling for Mendenhall to show his vision, just how elusive he is, speed, and how physical he is. I believe he can hold up to everything the Raves will throw at him physically, and may even take it to THEM.
Hopefully he’ll hold onto the ball all the while he’s doing it. We all know the Raves will be gunning for that ball all night long.
Just remember to breath Rashard. I remember Cower asking FWP on the sideline during a game if he remembered to breath, saying something like just remember to breath, I can’t have you hyperventilating out there.
by herewegosteelers on Sep 26, 2008 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
read top post
On main page about adjustments. I had forgotten about we abandoned run against Jax and NE, despite doing well on the ground.
by Blitzburgh on Sep 26, 2008 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blitz, 2 roster moves on way?
Guys, I think the Steelers will make 2 roster moves before Monday night. I’m pretty sure Gary Russell will be activated from the practice squad for this game, but I think the team will probably have to activate NT Scott Paxson as well. This team plays Baltimore this week and then Jacksonville the next, two of the more physical running teams in the league. This team will be playing its base 3-4 during the next 2 weeks most of the game, except for obvious passing downs. I don’t think the team can make it through these next 2 games with just five DL, especially with the age of our lineman and the way Baltimore and Jacksonville like to run. At least Paxson would be able to eat up some snaps for Chris Hoke and give him a chance to catch a blow.
I think 2 players that could be released this week are WR Dallas Baker and injured LB Donovan Woods. The Steelers would be able to put both of these players on the practice squad or just resign them when other people are healthy. P. Bailey can continue to fill Woods spot on special teams until he is ready to go. Limas Sweed can be activated and play that 4th WR spot. He wouldn’t get on the field much anyway unless an injury occurs because Heath Miller is the 4th WR in this offense anyway. Too bad for Baker, but we need that roster spot and you are not going to cut a 2nd round pick. I don’t think we’ll see Big Snack or Willie Parker until after the bye week, which is 3 weeks from now. These 2 roster moves could help us get through the next two weeks.
Thoughts?
by datruth4life on Sep 24, 2008 10:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
truth
Good thoughts man. I think I agree about both, though I woudlnt be surprised if we wait another week before realizing we need to get someone like Paxon in there as some added muscle.
by Blitzburgh on Sep 24, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bulletin board material for Mendy and the Steelers offense?
Ok, it’s not really but here’s what the Raven’s blog has to say about Mendy getting the start:
Rashard Mendenhall will not be any more of a factor than Willie Parker would have been. As you will hear all week, the deciding factor for a Ravens victory will most likely lie with their offense’s success against a good Steelers’ defense……
Agree?
by cgolden on Sep 24, 2008 11:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If the ravens blitz nonstop
It will be more on the coaching staff to prepare the players and gameplan accordingly.
And the ravens or any team, should blitz on the steelers until the steelers show they can stop the blitz and ride it for big offensive plays.
If the steelers are able to “fix” themselves and can play the blitz, I think this could be a blowout. Now, the blitz/o-line is a huge problem, so it probablywon’t be a blowout but flacco has been mediocre and Mcclain is still an unknown. And if the game gets out of hand, it won’t matter much if it is mendy or parker eating up clock late in the game.
As the blog points out, Mendy may have difficulty picking up blitzers, which means the steelers should and probably will be focusing on what plays can abuse the blitz rather than max protecting with tightends and calling slow developing plays.
Then again, it could be a big day for Mewelde, in a westbrook/bush role to punish the ravens for being overaggressive.
by vherub on Sep 24, 2008 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thoughts
I think Mendenhall will be fine after he gets a few carries under his belt. I pray Arians doesn’t abandon the run, and to use three step drops and dump the ball to the backs to counter the blitz packages. Kelly Gregg being out for this game is huge in my eyes. Plus, blitz the heck out of Flacco.
by BabushkaPower on Sep 24, 2008 4:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Arians doesn't devote at least 50% of the gameplan to the run
then we’re screwed. If Mendenhall holds on to the ball, he’ll have an explosive day. The Raven D is past it’s prime, though it still is a great D, the one thing our O Line can do is run block. If they open some seams for Delicious, he’ll do the rest and have a big day.
To the tune of the classic children's song "This Old Man" (the part with nick nack patty whack)
Big Snack, Silverback, take the Dawg Pound's Bone, the Black and Gold sent the Brownies crying home.
by HighSchoolSteeler on Sep 24, 2008 5:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice to dream...
but I see no evidence in the “body of work” (to borrow from our HC) that BA will do anything different this week than he has done in his time here. I will even “boldly” predict the first series
1- Inside h/o Mendenhall left – gain of 2 yds.
2- Inside h/o Mendenhall right – no gain
3- Quick pass to Ward – gain of 4 yds.
4- Punt
Series 2, 3 and 4 repeat same, just substitute Holmes, Miller and Washington for Ward on the short 3d down pass.
Now that I have put it down, I am hopeful that I am proved wrong and my pessimism is misplaced. I dont know why everyone hates the Browns so much. They are not worth the effort. The truly hated rival for me is the ravens. I wont devolve into personal or city wide attacks, but I REALLY WANT US TO PROVE ME WRONG!!!!
GO STEELERS!!! DAMN IT!
Got 5? ... We do! Check the RINGS!!!
by warftr5 on Sep 25, 2008 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think most of us would be happy if we started utilizing the run and quick passes…though admittedly I like the quick pass in #2 and #3 to be decided after that.
by steelguy99 on Sep 25, 2008 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s hysterical dude.
And depressing.
arghhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!
by herewegosteelers on Sep 26, 2008 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
whoa whoa whoa
What is this “quick pass” you speak of? You’re way off. The typical series will be:
1. Inside handoff for 2 yards
2. Inside handoff for no gain
3. Trips bunch right. Ben reads the blitz, and motions Moore out wide left to run a fly route. Ben barely gets the snap off. He takes a 7 step drop to give his receivers time to get open. Ben goes through his progressions, pumps to Washinton, then sees Holmes one on one deep. Ben passes him the ball, a perfect spiral, and Holmes grabs it in stride and runs to the end zone. Ben wakes up staring at the sky. He sees various people standing around.
“Did we score?” he asks.
“Um, no,” a trainer replies.
“I don’t think I can feel my arm.”
“What, this?” the trainer says, holding up Ben’s arm. “Given my medical expertise, that’s what I would expect.”
“Oh. Where’s Bruce?”
“I’m over here, Ben.”
“Did I make the right reads on that play?”
“Yeah, but next time, duck the first guy, then spin out from the second. You switched those up. One of these times we’ll hit the deep play and make them pay for all those blitzes.”
“Right. I’ll get it right next time,”
“Don’t you think you should sit out this next drive?” a trainer asks.
“Nah, I’ll be ready to go.”
Bill Cowher, who happens to be in the area, says, “If he’s your guy and he says he’s ready to play, you gotta put him in.”
Mike Tomlin says, “You’re an idiot.”
IT’S OVER!!!!!
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by BadMaafala on Sep 25, 2008 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ravens "D"
Baltimore’s defense is definitely NOT past its prime. Yeah, Ray Lewis is older and perhaps not the force he was in his younger days, but I still can’t think of ANY other MLB I’d rather have leading my defense. the rest of the team is a great mix of young guys and vets. When healthy, and we definitely are compared to last year’s embarassing loss to you, we are still the dominant defense in the NFL.
Rexx
by Rexx on Sep 25, 2008 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, on a lighter note, I just hope Rashard will have a down-home blue collar , workman like steeler day carrying the rock! Maybe then we can come up with a new nickname for him. Theres just something wrong about a Steeler running back being called Delicious…that just does’nt sound right! Its so weak! LOL
by Steeler Ric on Sep 24, 2008 7:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Baltimore Crows
Our defense against their offense: No real worries. We have to make Joey Flacco beat us by taking away the run and then preassuring their freshman quarterback. Do you think Dick LaBeau will have any trouble with that even with the injuries? Now, the question is: Can we put up even a few points? If you’ns will remember last year, the two teams that gave the Patriots fits were the Eagles and the Baltimore Crows. Do they both run the 4-3? I think so. That is the test: Can our O-line take on four big trench hogs all night and then deal with the extra men in a blitz situation? I have no doubt that we will be working on the quick pass stuff this week as I’m sure the Crows are aware. The big question is still the offensive line. Will they be embarassed enough to buckle down and perform to a new level? Because, I think we had to have the worst O-line in the NFL last week. The only othe performance I can remember like that was the opening game for the Raiders a couple of years ago when Andrew Walter got destroyed. I can’t tell you how much it pains me to make that compairison!
For now, I think it is time to put my concerns away (It was only one bad game), and remember these are the Steelers. It’s a Monday night game. We will pluck, roast and serve the crows to the nation with a side of Delicious Mendenhal.
Go Steelers!!!!
by WyoFan on Sep 25, 2008 10:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m pretty worried about stopping the run with our injuries. Thankfully we still have A. Smith in there. If we can’t stop the run there is no need for flacco to throw, and there will be limited time to expose him. Someone can correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe that stopping the run is pretty simple schematically, but the boys need to get the job done. We utilize our safeties and CBs to great effect there, but it starts with the line tangling the O-line and getting some touches on the RB.
by steelguy99 on Sep 25, 2008 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice
good comment man. Funny and insightful. Cheers.
by Blitzburgh on Sep 25, 2008 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was to WyoFan btw
steelguy99, you’re a regular. You frequently bring the goods :) Just giving a shoutout to a newer frequentor here.
by Blitzburgh on Sep 25, 2008 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve gotten good at following which replies go where. :)
by steelguy99 on Sep 25, 2008 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One More Thought
We knew the Eagles were goin to be a tough team. What better time to play a great defence than early in the season and learn our weeknesses on offense?
by WyoFan on Sep 25, 2008 10:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
true that
One thing I’ll be touching on soon enough is the topic of ‘when to peak’. Last year we peaked too early. NY Giants, of course, peaked at just the right time. Injuries, adjustments. These are all things that need to be gotten out of the way early, not in Week 12 and on.
by Blitzburgh on Sep 25, 2008 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly,
That what I’ve been saying. it’s a learnng process. For coaches and the players. Come on. We all new our O line is weak, but it does’nt mean they can’t learn. This is still a game of students and teachers.
by C-Mac on Sep 25, 2008 10:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mendenhall quote re: Ray Lewis
This is just hilarious:
“Oh, man I used to play with him on video games, so I know a lot about Ray Lewis. I mean, he’s a great player, there’s no doubt about it. In this league, in this business, you’re going to face great players every week. He’s a great player, I look forward to playing against him.”
by steelguy99 on Sep 25, 2008 12:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You missed the rest of the quote
“I mean, he’s a little older now, but I’ll bet he still has at least a 96 TAK rating, and probably good IMP and STR ratings. I’d say he’s probably about an 89 OVR”
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by BadMaafala on Sep 25, 2008 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is Big Ben to blame for Big sack numbers?
Blitz, let’s hope the coaching staff will be ahead of the curve for once and not behind it & activate an extra DL (Paxson) for this game.
On to another point, though. Dale Lolley, a pretty good beat writer for the Steelers, posted on his blog today what he thinks is the real reason for the Steelers big sack numbers given up the past few years. Everone please chime in with your thoughts. Here is the text from Lolley’s blog below:
Title: The One Constant
The time has come to point the finger at the real blame for much of the Steelers problems with protection of the quarterback.
In 2006, Ben Roethlisberger was sacked 46 times working behind the same offensive line that had given up 32 sacks the previous season – eight of which were recorded against potted plant Tommy Maddox.
Roethlisberger’s 23 sacks came on 268 pass attempts in 2005, while his 46 sacks the next season came on 469 attempts. By comparison, Charlie Batch, who threw 53 passes in 2006, was sacked just three times.
In 2007, Roethlisberger went down 47 times on 404 pass attempts, more than one time per 10 pass attempts. Batch threw 36 passes and was not sacked.
The line was a little different. Sean Mahan replaced Jeff Hartings at center and Willie Colon was in place of Max Starks at right tackle. Marvel Smith also missed some time at left tackle, with Starks replacing him.
But remember, Smith missed some time in 2005 and was replaced by Trai Essex, then a rookie. And still, the Steelers gave up 32 sacks on 379 pass attempts that season.
Roethlisberger has already been sacked 12 times this season, including eight on Sunday against Philadelphia.
Again, the line is different, with Justin Hartwig replacing Mahan and Chris Kemoeatu in for Alan Faneca.
The only constant has been Roethlisberger.
The biggest problem on Sunday against the Eagles was that on a number of occasions, Philadelphia sent more guys after Roethlisberger than the line could block.
But when the defense is sending six pass rushers and you have five blockers, the quarterback is responsible for the extra man.
But Roethlisberger trusts his scrambling ability too much. How many times on Sunday did we see him try to scramble up into the pocket to escape on oncoming rusher only to step into a sack? Five, six?
Think he would have been better served getting rid of the ball or taking a shot throwing to a receiver working on one-on-one coverage?
Certainly not all of the blame lies with Roethlisberger. The line play was not good – particularly once the Eagles got rolling.
But Roethlisberger’s got to realize that when the defense is rushing six or seven guys, he’s got one-on-one coverage.
He’s got to recognize that and take a shot at beating the one-on-one. That’s the only way teams will stop sending the house at him.
by datruth4life on Sep 25, 2008 1:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nah, it's Arians.
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by BadMaafala on Sep 25, 2008 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope.
Roethlisberger either got rid of the ball or was dodging his first pass rusher less than three seconds after the snap on 31 of his 37 pass plays. Four of Roethlisberger’s sacks came on plays where the first rusher was on him in less than two seconds.
by BallsofSteel on Sep 25, 2008 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The blame goes all around. Ben, the line, arians, tomlin, WRs, RBs. Trying to say that just because one thing changes and the other is constant that the constant is the fault is just plain silly.
Lets dive into the realm of metaphor for a minute: I’m a car that is running really great. I’m getting a bit on in years and my oil filter is getting old. I change it, but I bought it on ebay. Then I go to the dump and pick up a new oil filter, and put it in. Still nothing…
The way teams play changes every year, every day. Ben needs to work on getting rid of the ball when he has that option. He, the line, and the offense need to work on the hot routes and audibling out of trouble. Placing the blame on his shoulders is wrong though, just like placing the entire 15-1 season on his shoulders is wrong. Personally I’d prefer Ben not throw into heavy 1-1 coverage. There are other solutions instead of taking a 60% shot at completion, 30% shot at incompletion, 10% shot at interception.
by steelguy99 on Sep 25, 2008 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big Ben On Verge ....
Of moving into the T. Brady and P. Manning club of QBs as soon as he learns to get rid of the ball quicker and learn to throw the ball away versus taking a sack. The gunslinger in him wants to do something positive every play, but throwing the ball away and living to fight another day is something positive. He hasn’t learned that lesson yet.
When the OL improves and Ben learns those 2 lessons, this team will be at contender status again. Now, the blame for the Eagles game is just as much on B. Arians’ shoulders as Ben and the OL because he didn’t put either in a position to succeed this past week. It is just pathetic for the Eagles to run the same EXACT blitz and pick up 6 sacks in 1 quarter of football. I’ve never seen that before in my life.
Thoughts?
by datruth4life on Sep 25, 2008 2:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
100%
agree Truth. He is right there. Maybe this will be the final straw for him. He has the ability to make the quick decisions, I know he sees it because many times he’ll pump like he wants to throw, then change his mind and hold out for a longer play. This happened a few times in the past game. When he embraces it all the way, look out. The line play won’t matter as much anymore when he can do that, and Arians takes advantage of that ability by using 3 or 4 wide receivers a bit more often.
by TheMostViolentTeam on Sep 25, 2008 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hot reads
Not just playboys but changing receivers routes at the line. It seemed that Ben was waiting on progressions that take too long. One of the things of beauty (even if I hated every minute) was watching Brady just dump the ball the Welker all day anytime a blitz came his way. He knew it was coming and he knew where he was going at the snap. Ben seems to think he’ll be able to take the time to watch a route develop. He needs to get quicker and more decisive. maybe that does have something to do with Arians, but I’m sure that Ben’s got a lot of responsibility here.
That said we can’t let people come in unblocked in the middle. Off the edge is one thing… meh… same old stuff.
by Chicago Steeler on Sep 25, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
INTs
Under siege I’d rather see Ben give up an INT on a quick slant attempt than on a deep ball to Asante Samuels.
Granted that play ended up kind of like a punt, and it was a heck of a play on Samuels part, but Ben will develop an appreciation for mixing in the quick hitters.
Or he’ll continue to be the quick “hittee”. With the intense physical punishment he’s been suffering you’ve got to believe no one wants to straighten this out more than Ben.
He will.
by herewegosteelers on Sep 26, 2008 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fumbling
Let’s all hop the Mendenhall can just hold onto the Damn BALL!
by buckthefrowns on Sep 25, 2008 4:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Blitz
can we make buckthefrowns.com the official apparel site of BTSC?
by TheMostViolentTeam on Sep 25, 2008 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ben Is A Gamer
Big Ben is a Gamer, no doub about it. How many times have we seen him stay in the fight to the end and help the Steelers win? He shakes off bad plays and comes loaded for bear the next. Where do you think he would be if we had a great line? He helped us to a Super Bowl with a decent line. Unfortunately, even as important as the quarterback is, he can not win the game single handedly. But, if anyone could, he could. I believe that.
by WyoFan on Sep 25, 2008 5:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
One of the most disheartening thing about sunday’s game was the way that Ben looked. He didn’t look like he was leading us anywhere. I had no confidence we’d win that game after seeing how he looked on the sidelines. At some point he gave up, not that I blame him.
by steelguy99 on Sep 25, 2008 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought the exact same thing
For the first time in his career (that I can remember) he looked defeated. I was hoping that once he came back out of the locker room that he’d be fighting his way back onto the field or arguing with coaches to get back in or something. Instead he looked very content standing on the sidelines. Not that I blame him considering the game was all but over but still…..
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