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Observations from Week 4 in the NFL

We'll do one final preview of the Steelers-Ravens game at Heinz Field at bit later, but first a few thoughts about Sunday's happenings in the National Football League.

* The talk around water coolers today, of course, will be Brett Favre and his career record 6 TD passes against the Arizona Cardinals. The Jets scored 34 points in the second quarter!  What can you say about Favre other than that he's still a treat to watch at his age. The Packers, who received news that Aaron Rodgers is dealing with some soreness in his shoulder, might have to stave off a mob of rioting Cheeseheads if somehow, someway, the Jets are able to make the playoffs while the Packers hit the golf course in early January. Not likely though, as the Jets should have consistency issues, particularly on the road. As for the Cardinals? Well, we'll have to ask our man cgolden but I think most of us figured it was just a matter of time before we saw Kurt Warner turn in one of those forgettably poor road performances. He finished the day with 6 turnovers. Ouch.

* Is there anything to write about the Browns uninspiring victory over the Bengals, who were playing without Carson Palmer? By the way, how is it that a sore elbow keeps Carson Palmer out of the team's biggest game of the year, while a guy like Brett Favre, or even Ben Roethlisberger, finds a way to suit up each and every week no matter the circumstance? I don't know the extent of the injury, but seriously, would the greats take a seat with the team 0-3 and in desperate need of a win if there is ANY hope at salvaging the season? Absolutely not. And for that reason, it's time we stop talking about Carson Palmer as one of the 'greats' in this league. Period.

* The one game I'll be fortunate enough to see this year is the Skins-Steelers matchup, also on MNF, in early November. After seeing Jason Campbell lead his team to victory in Texas Stadium in a game that the Cowboys were double digit favorites, I'm more convinced than ever that our game with them will be one of our toughest outs of the year. The story for Washington is turnovers, or the lack thereof. Not a fumble, nor a Campbell interception through 4 games. Expect Campbell to get locked down with a mega-extension sometime very soon. Perhaps this summer, but my guess is long before then.

* Count me among the masses who thought Kansas City had little chance to beat Denver, even though they were playng at Arrowhead. If you look at just the two teams' records heading into the game, and nothing else, sure, it seems like a monumental upset.  Several things though. Firstly, Mike Shanahan doesn't win in Kansas City. Or at least not very often. He's just 4-12 lifetime  there. Secondly, Denver shouldn't be undefeated. Martin Gramatica missed a VERY easy FG (by NFL standards) last week that would have given New Orleans the win. Thirdly, and most importantly, the Broncos defense is terrible. Downright awful. The Broncos have given up 103 points in their last three ballgames. Let me give you some historical context of just how bad that is. The 1976 Steelers defense gave up 138 points in 14 games and the 2000 Ravens gave up just 165 points.  Giving up big numbers to San Diego and New Orleans is one thing, but allowing the Chiefs to drop 33 on you is embarassing, and very harrowing for the team's prospects to contend in the longrun. Heck, the Chiefs hadn't even scored 33 points in their first three games!  Denver next faces Tampa Bay, Jacksonville and New England. We'll see if they're legitimate or whether their shoddy defense will keep them in the 6-8 win range.

* We think it's frustrating watching our beloved Steelers play amazing one week and terrible the next? Well, we're spoiled. Imagine being a Bears fan. Sheesh is that team all over the place. After losing their previous two games, including a 24-27 home defeat to Tampa Bay that could have playoff implications down the road, the Bears responded in a critical game for them against the Philadelphia Eagles. The Bears preserved the 24-20 with a late game goal-line stand. The Andy Reid I remember used to LOVE to run play action around the goal line. Now, he could have been playing 'chess' with the Bears D-coordinator, expecting them to think they'd throw. But I think he over thought things there. With an accurate QB like McNabb and 8 or 9 guys stuffed along the goal line on D, you can't just plow ahead with a mediocre RB time after time. Anyway, the Bears held and improved to 2-2, while Philly fell to 2-2. Oh by the way, the Eagles pass rush is good. They recorded four more sacks last night against a Bears offensive line that is not really as poorly regarded as ours is.

* Ah, the poor 49ers. Just when they think they've emerged and are in the thick of things in the NFC, they lay an egg on the road and remind you that they've got a ways to go. JT O'Sullivan was sacked 6 times today, giving the 49ers 19 allowed sacks through just four games. New Orleans had their way with them today, pulling away in the 2nd quarter behind 3 Drew Brees TD passes.

* I thought Jacksonville might stomp all over Houston today at home, signaling to the league that they're still a force to be recoked with despite the 0-2 start. Last week's last second win over Indianapolis was impressive, and I thought they might follow up this week with a huge game. Well, they won. But it took overtime. And it was at home. AND they gave up 300+ yards through the air while not forcing a single turnover. I'll be writing about this Jaguars team more either later today briefly and then throughout the week, but it's hard to say whether they matchup as well with us as they have in previous matchups.

Thoughts from the Sunday games as we inch closer to kickoff between Baltimore and Pittsburgh?

Go Steelers!

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blitz

when you come into town we should do a BTSC meetup

by schnifin on Sep 29, 2008 10:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

id love to man

alas, its at FedEx. We gotta make that happen though. Perhaps for the draft? I think thatd be most realistic to get a group of like 10-30 from Pittsburgh and surrounding areas. Still havent been to Heinz :(

by Blitzburgh on Sep 29, 2008 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

bummer

I didn’t even look at the schedule for that.

by schnifin on Sep 29, 2008 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This leads me to a question, one that would probably make a good thread in and of itself. How did you (and by “you” in this response I mean the collective "you") become fans of the steelers? How did that start for fans not brainwashed by growing up or living in pittsburgh? Do you have family members, friends, ex’s that liked them? Was it their physical style of ball-playing? Did you just need someone to cheer for and pittsburgh just came off a great season so you figured you’d go with them? Do you like the underdog and decided to go with them after a bad season?

by steelguy99 on Sep 29, 2008 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good Fanpost topic – It would probably get more tread there than here, so I’ll wait for your thread to reply.

by SCSteeler on Sep 29, 2008 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, probably more appropriate there.

by steelguy99 on Sep 29, 2008 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

indeed

Steelguy99, I think you joined us towards the end of the offseason (I could be wrong) so you havent been exposed to the vast and ridiculous array of posts you’ll find here in the offseason. My dream vacations? Check. Movies? Check. Definitely would love to hear non Pittsburgh fans’ stories of how/why they grew to love the team. Start it up now if you’d like, but let’s try again if it doesnt get much traction this time around in the midst of the season.

by Blitzburgh on Sep 29, 2008 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve been reading for about two years but haven’t started contributing until about that point. I should note that I tended not to read the completely off-football posts :)

by steelguy99 on Sep 29, 2008 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

awww

There were some gems in there! Ha, jk, totally understandable. Though I gotta say, writing about football 340+ days a year or so with only 16 games can get tough. I have to take some ‘creative leeway’ during the dog days of the offseason.

Gametim yet? C’mon clock. Tick faster.

by Blitzburgh on Sep 29, 2008 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think anyone blames you there. Especially in the dog days of summer when absolutely nothing is happening. Your vacation schedule showed good taste I thought. :)

4.5 hours left, tick tock.

by steelguy99 on Sep 29, 2008 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

- I felt like Derek Anderson finally came awake in the second half against the Bengals. He’s had to play some awfully good defenses to start the season, and I think he just needed some time against a mediocre one to get rolling. Don’t rule them out just yet.

- My pregame thoughts on Denver-KC were that sure, Denver’s defense is bad, but they’ll carve up KC’s on offense. Well, they moved the ball just fine (446 yards), but they had 4 critical turnovers including 2 fumbles by WR’s. It was one of those games you figured they’d eventually win, but they kept making mistakes and pressed at the end.

- I had Houston as one of my upset picks (3-1 odds) in the pickem thing and I was pumped when they were up 4 with a few minutes left. And again when they went into overtime. Then… dang. I also had Oakland (at 3-1), who was up 15-0 at the half. They should be able to run out the clock with their running game, right? They keep passing and 2 turnovers and numerous defensive and special teams breakdowns later, I’m out of luck. I also just missed on GB with 2-1 odds. Not a great week.

- The Dallas-Washington and Philly-Chicago games were the best ones I’ve seen so far this season. I can’t believe how close Buckhalter got on the 4th down. I thought they would have had a chance with a challenge. They really blew it, giving up that first down on the next drive. It’s amazing how far the Redskins have come since week 1. They’re playcalling was terrible on offense. Against Dallas, they looked to be 2 steps ahead of the defense. I think we can lay to rest the idea that Dallas has a good defense. They have an impressive list of players on defense, not an impressive defense. The Redskins held the ball for 38 minutes and scored on 6 of 7 drives to end the game. Still, the Cowboys had a chance to get that onside kick and blew it.

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by BadMaafala on Sep 29, 2008 10:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

damn

I did not pick the Houston one. Good call by you even if it didnt fall your way. I thought the Jags would steamroll them and I was way off. My only good pick of the week was the Redskins over the Cowboys.

I’m curious to see if the Browns are going to play a bit better, as you suggested. I noticed they threw the ball poorly AND failed to run it well (Lewis had like 3 ypc n 25 carries).

by Blitzburgh on Sep 29, 2008 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think the Jags are that great. Yeah, they had an impressive win against a faltering Colts team, but neither their running game (with both G’s on IR) nor their run defense is what is has been. Garrard wasn’t playing very well before this game either, althought he pretty much willed them to victory. I think we’re going to destroy them next week: payback for all the times they kicked us when we were on the ground.

As for the Browns, maybe they won’t rebound. I just looked and their schedule doesn’t get any easier. They get a bye, then the Giants and Redskins.

charity standing orders

by BadMaafala on Sep 29, 2008 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea, think i agree about Jags

Going to study them a little closer starting tomorrow but I think they’ve regressed quite a bit. Of course lots of that has to do with just bad luck injury-wise but it counts. I don’t think their secondary is nearly as strong as it was, partly beacuse they don’t have quite the arsenal of impressive run stuffers up front that allows them to focus all their capital on pass defense.

They can still run the ball though and if we don’t have Hampton or Keisel, it could be tough. Timmons better be ready to hunt down MJD.

by Blitzburgh on Sep 29, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Houston

I picked Houston too. IIRC, they swept the Jags last year, so I figured that would continue.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 1, 2008 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

is there any team

that doesn’t have problems at some level or doesn’t have some weakness exposed?
If it’s not the offensive line, it’s the secondary, or the qb play, or the running game or stopping the run.
Right now, trying to decide who the “best” teams are or what version of a supposed best team will show up is like 3 card monte.

by vherub on Sep 29, 2008 12:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

pretty much

I agree, though for a guy who’s near the top of the pick em league, I thought you’d like you had it all figured out :) There is no figuring out this league, other than than that mediocre teams usually blow on the road, and even the worst teams usually put up a fight at home. Those two truths still leave huge windows for unpredictability, which we see every week without fail.

by Blitzburgh on Sep 29, 2008 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn’t say these are the most dominant teams in the league, but the Panthers, Bills, and Redskins are probably the most complete teams I’ve seen. They’re doing well in all phases. They don’t have great QB’s, but they have good ones.

I feel like teams will learn to exploit the Giants’ glaring weaknesses in coverage, but up to this point no one has, so I guess they’re the team to beat, along with the rest of the East.

charity standing orders

by BadMaafala on Sep 29, 2008 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Randle El

Still wish that guy was on the team…he was looking pretty good there vs the Cowpokes.

by SCSteeler on Sep 29, 2008 1:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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