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Steelers Post Most Impressive Win of Opening Week

Being in a new city for just the second day, I had to scout out a location to watch the Steelers-Texans game. With the Seahawks-Bills game on here locally in Seattle, I trudged off to find Sunday Ticket somewhere so that I could catch the Black & Gold, as well as bits and pieces of other games. As you probably have already noticed, things are fairly hectic right now, which in turn has led to helter skelter thoughts and posting from me, at least compared to the order that delineated the site during the offseason. That will change now that I'm here and more or less moved in. Anyway, here's what I saw:


1) Cleveland's coming-out party put on hold

This one's obvious for Steelers fans, and for much of the football loving country I suppose. After all, we've heard plenty about the Browns this offseason. Hell, even Jerry Jones was worried about this one, or at least so he said after the game. But it wasn't for good reason really. The Browns were flat. The secondary stunk. No surprise there. Jamaal Lewis had nowhere to run. Derek Anderson was under durress all day long, etc. And when it was all over with, the Browns were sent home with their tail between their leg. They now find themselves in the exact position I disucssed throughout the offseason. They're 0-1, with a huge game against Pittsburgh coming this Sunday. 0-2 and the panic button officially will be hit. Count on it.

2) Still think Garrard's in the same class as Roethlisberger and Romo?

I sure don't, though I never thought he was really.  In case you were wondering, I mention those three together because all got mega extensions recently. Roethlisberger's was the largest, but Garrard's and Romo's contracts were very similar, and not all that far behind in terms of dollars. Anyway, Garrard's numbers weren't awful (23-35, 215 yards), but 2 INTs and a lost fumble did him and his team in. Beyond the box score though, I saw Garrard miss several throws that were undeniably tough windows to fit a pass in., but he wasn't even really close on them. I just don't think he has enough to single-handedly win games for this Jaguars team.  And with the defense not quite as formidable up front, there likely will be a few more games that Jacksonville has to keep up in offensively. Hopefully for them, the running game will contribute more though moving forward. Against Tennessee, Taylor and Jones-Drew combined for just 31 yards on 14 carries.

3) Drew Brees to 40?

Only five times have QBs reached the 40 TD plateau in NFL history, including Tom Brady's record setting mark of 50 last year. I wouldn't be surprised if we see it done a 6th time in 2008 by Drew Brees. Brees averaged a ridiculous 10+ YPA against rival Tampa Bay, finishing the day 23-32 for 343 yards and 3 TDs. Impressive. I think too many people are sleeping on this team after last year's bizarre up-and-down campaign.

4) Seattle is miserable

I had to listen to scores of Seahawks fans moan and groan for the better part of the game against Buffalo yesterday. This is Arizona's division to lose as far as I'm concerned. That's not much in terms of analysis, I know. But what I saw was very very ugly. The schedule's easy enough for them to be in contention in the NFC West, but the defense better play better because I don't see them getting much help from the offense this year. Side question: when does it ever work for teams that have lame-duck head coaches who are likely to walk away at the end of the year? Holmgren, for all his accomplishments in Seattle, seems to have made quite a mess out of the situation as his tenure seemingly comes to a close.

5) AFC suddenly wide open

Even yesterday, I don't think anybody would have put Pittsburgh atop their list as favorites in the heavyweight AFC. New England, Indy, San Diego, of course, would head most people's lists. But Tom Brady may be done for the year, Peyton Manning clearly was not ready to play in the Colts loss to the Bears, and the Chargers had a head-scratching loss to the Panthers. Remember, the Chargers started slow last year, so I wouldn't be too concerned about them just yet. It's also too early to write Manning and the Colts off. He will round into form sooner rather than later. But nevertheless, the Steelers' most formidable competitors in the AFC suddenly seem far more vulnerable than they did just a short time ago.

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We'll do an AFC North report each week starting sometime in the next day or so. I'll save my thoughts on our divisional rivals until then.

What were you impressed, surprised, unimpressed by this weekend? Thoughts moving forward?

Thank God football's back.

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Look like the top of the class in the AFC after week 1.
Until they are beaten or another team proves a week 1 win wasn’t a fluke, I believe they will stay the toughest team in the AFC for quite some time, hopefully the whole season. : )
The O-line absolutely played terrific in this game. No doubt about it, they played inspired football. All the talk of how bad our O-line is going to be has obviously sparked a fire under the butts of each and every starter. Hell, even the D-line showed we DO have a little depth after all. Nick Eason made more than one good play on his own, showing that he can play here and wants to be a Steeler after all. There were plenty of positives to pull from this game, but I’ll leave that for another thread.

Some interesting thoughts I have recently had…

-Manning and the Colts looked very sluggish in their week 1 game. Things weren’t clicking like they usually do. Maybe this is a sign of things to come this season?

-Patriots lose Brady for possibly the entire season (that is a crazy thought, no Brady at all this year!) Unless backup Matt Cassell is a stud in the making, the Pats have problems.

-Titans beat the usually stout Jaguars all while their starting QB VInce Young leaves the game during crunch time with a somewhat potentially serious/nagging injury

-New York Giants lost two key pieces of their D-line from last year making them simply a mediocre defense this year. They looked impressive in the first half of their game, but slowed down against a decent Redskin defense in the second half.

-The Ravens, who some picked to be the worst team in our division, beat the Cincinatti Bengals handily. I’m not sure whether T.J. Who’syomomma or Ocho Cinco were playing.. but still, Carson Palmer looked simply average at best with whatever he had out there.

-And last, but certainly not least the Cleveland browns got handled by the Cowboys (who look great by the way..can’t wait for our matchup against them later this season)

Looks as though our “toughest schedule ever” may soften a bit before we even make it to week 3.

by iBleedBlack&Gold on Sep 8, 2008 4:04 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A few thoughts.

That was a terrible loss of the Browns, but no one was actually expecting them to win. They were just supposed to lose un-embarrassingly. Expect some re-tooling, but I wouldn’t entirely discount them yet. I don’t think they were ever playoff contenders, contrary to the media pundits, but they’ll put up a good fight.

The Panthers were on fire yesterday; it really was their game to lose and they almost did, given that it came down to the last play of the game. I don’t know why the Chargers defense couldn’t stop the running game yesterday, but I wouldn’t discount them. As you mention, the Chargers seem to always start terribly and then pick it up somewhere around week 4 or 5.

The REAL upset about the Patriots game was that the rest of the league saw the Patriots are entirely beatable without Brady. The Chiefs SHOULD have done it, but didn’t; however, the fact that they even had a chance is unbelievable. Every teams’ attitudes towards the Pats will change now.

Expect media attitudes towards the Bears to change for the rest of the week, until next Sunday when the talking heads are forced to re-realize that Orton is still their quarterback. The Bears were a one-trick pony last night; all they proved is that one good pony is more than the Colts Defense can handle.

by HinesField on Sep 8, 2008 8:42 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Blitz, Seattle

Im heading up there this weekend for the OU-Washington game. Any idea’s if the weather is supposed to be decent?

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by WoodrowWilson on Sep 8, 2008 9:48 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

its been 75 and sunny so far for me

I think that’s supposed to continue through the end of the week. And I just checked weather.com, and its going to be pristine all weekend. Perfect football weather.

by Blitzburgh on Sep 8, 2008 7:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thank God football's back

is right. And what a start, the D is awesome, special teams, FWP & the o-line, and Big Ben looking great.

Its only September, this league is all about how you are playing in November/December, still a heck of a start and no reason to think we can’t build on it.

Go Steelers!!!!

by herewegosteelers on Sep 8, 2008 9:54 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Browns, et al

Their defense was awful against the Cowboys. Shaun Rogers was impressive, but it takes more than one guy to stop the run and get a pass rush. He frequently got penetration, but the Cowboys ran around him and no one else was getting it done. I actually think the Browns’ offense didn’t look bad, but they were never on the field (only 22.5 minutes). I don’t think it’s realistic to expect any offense to put together a long sustained drive every time they have the ball. Lewis ran very well when he got the chance, and Winslow was outstanding. Edwards really wasn’t very good. He dropped several balls, including a perfectly thrown deep post that was a sure TD. This is a very good, very balanced Dallas team, and we’re going to have to play one of our best and most balanced games against them if we want to beat them.

I was skeptical when people were saying that our schedule could be easier than expected, considering teams like DAL, NWE, IND, and SDG were unlikely to take a significant step back. Well, 3 of those 4 did this week. It’s unfortuate that we play them in the middle of the season instead of sooner, but there are signs of weakening with 3 of those 4. We should be able to run on all 4 of those teams, and if Indy, in particular, can’t stop the run, it should open up the pass just like last night. Rivers hasn’t looked bad, but he also hasn’t looked like he can singlehandedly lead this team to victory. If we can hold LT to an unspectacular game (hasn’t been a problem before), we should be able to run against them and control the clock. Even Dallas looked weak against the run, and if we can limit the big plays, that will give us a good chance. The Jags didn’t look great, Eli Manning showed he still sucks, and obviously the Browns defense was terrible.

On the flip side, only the Eagles looked very good, especially on defense. McNabb had some lucky passes against a bad St. Louis defense, but the defense completely dominated the supposed strength of the Rams. Also, we can’t rule the Ravens out. In the bar I went to there was a very animated Steelers fan jeering all the Bengals fans there and rooting for the Ravens, and I had to respectfully disagree with him. The Bengals don’t scare me at all, so I’d rather see Flacco’s confidence getting shattered and the Ravens’ defense look old. Flacco didn’t look great, but he didn’t look bad for his first start, either. I doubt they could really challenge for the division, but as long as they keep their mentality, I’m scared that they could either beat us or at take some cheap shots and injure us.

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by BadMaafala on Sep 8, 2008 10:11 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dont worry

flaccos confidence will be destroyed after dick lebeau is done with him

by 86_STRONGER_THAN_STEEL on Sep 9, 2008 1:12 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the steelers looked like monsters

They also looked like monsters against the Browns week 1 last year. Parker’s 109 on 27 carries was a little worse than the 138 yards on 25 yesterday and Ben was even better this Week 1 than last year.
And then the season got away from the team on the back of the schedule.
Not to be negative, because the Steelers played great on both sides of the ball, the line was stable and the draft picks are playing great. But the Texans are not an elite team and though the Browns don’t look like an elite team either, next Sunday is a game the Steelers need to take seriously and not get cocky about.

Also, in the Colt-Bears game, not only was Manning unprepared, but it seemed the coaching staff was as well. They had done a terrible scouting report on Forte/did not take him seriously, and he punished them in the first half before they made adjustments. It was also bizarre the Colts did not lean heavily on Addai, he can break open games.

by vherub on Sep 8, 2008 10:13 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Last year

I will say this about last year’s opener: we looked great, but Cleveland also looked terrible. This game we just flat out dominated, and the Texans’ average game just wasn’t up to par. I think the Texans and Browns are actually similar teams. Decent QB, a few dominant receivers, a few great players on defense, but not much else. Other than Williams, we weren’t scared by anyone on their defense. That role may shift to Rogers this week, but the fact is one guy can’t beat you. He played great against Dallas, but they still dominated the defense. On offense, the only guy I’m worried about is Winslow. Edwards is good, but Talyor can run with him, and his hands are only marginally worse. We’re going to need to keep Timmons/Troy on Winslow all day.

We can’t overlook the game, but you don’t see teams overlooking divisional opponents very often.

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by BadMaafala on Sep 8, 2008 11:16 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Steelers will not overlook the brownies

being the rival game it is – they truly hate each other. Nor Philly after that, they’re playing so well they’ll have our full attention.

Maybe the silver lining to the stiff schedule is we don’t overlook anybody?

by herewegosteelers on Sep 8, 2008 10:33 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Brady Day!!!

I for one am ecstatic that Tom Brady is hurt – I would love it if it was career ending – but I don’t think I’m that lucky. Brady has been too good and too lucky for too long. The man has never faced that one fierce injury – and now it just might have happened. Happy Days!!!!

by smashmouthsteel on Sep 8, 2008 11:23 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have a hard time...

Understanding why anyone would cheer when a competor gets injured. I respect what the Kraft family has done with the New England franchise and while I certainly do not like the Patriots I have to respect the way the organization is run. With that being said I have no desire to see Tom Brady hurt, he is an elite quarterback that is fun to watch and hasn’t missed a game in 120+ starts.
Don’t get me wrong, I want to beat the Patriots bad, really bad; but I would prefer to do it with Tom Brady quarterbacking the team and the Pittsburgh Steelers outplaying a the Patriots is all areas of the game.

by frankrmineo on Sep 8, 2008 12:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just Win Baby!

I hate the Patriots and I would like to win at all costs. Brady is a ratbastard in my book – and I will take a W any way I can get it. I prefer any advantage that I can get – injuries included. I also don’t respect the organization – they are a bunch of cheating tricksters – instant karma man – it’s gonna get ya.

by smashmouthsteel on Sep 8, 2008 12:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

totally agree

the fun is in beating the other guy, when the other guy is at the top of his game, not in seeing him get hurt.

by SteelerBuddha on Sep 8, 2008 6:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

totally agree with frank

Can’t stand Brady and the Pats, but I do not like to see ANY player injured.

by tkired on Sep 10, 2008 8:34 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Looking ahead to Cleveland

Not out of character, the Cowboys used a lot of shotgun formation and/or spread out the Browns defense to expose their weakness (the secondary). The Steelers should deploy this type of gameplan sunday night. This means that Nate Washington really needs to be on top of his game to expose the lack of depth in the Browns secondary.

by bradyquinnsclipboard on Sep 8, 2008 1:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It’d be nice if our O-line dominated too. Against dallas it looked like the browns rushed only 3 a lot, which was just a huge joke. When they rushed 4 they still usually got manhandled.

Romo was finishing sudoku puzzles before throwing the ball. Even though the receivers were usually well covered because the browns didn’t send anyone up front, he just had to be patient and wait, and he did.

by steelguy99 on Sep 8, 2008 1:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is true, I went balistic every time I saw them rush 3. There are 3 probowlers on that line, I don’t think any defense can get to Romo just rushing 3.

In the second half when we were rushing 4-5, we actually did get to him a bit (hence the bloodied chin), and the secondary responded by staying on guys. But the inexcusable LB play was consistent throughout. (the Long TO td was on a blitz, where Jackson was dismissed like a fly… it was as if we were playing w/ 10 men on the field).

by kwoog on Sep 8, 2008 1:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Browns’ secondary was actually not the wak link at all. It was their linebackers. That was one of the worst performances of a LBing crew I’ve ever seen, perhaps the worst. Rogers played amazingly. Corners will get beat, that happens. But the LBs were allowed to run free, and they wiffed on tackles. Andre Davis dropped an interception that hit him in the chest on our 5 yard line (if he catches that, Cowboys score 21 all game).

Now, I’m not saying the Browns weren’t dominated, they were. But anyone who watched that game and thinks the secondary was the problem wasn’t paying attention. I’m inconsolable about the regressions of Wimbley and Jackson. They’re supposed to be our Timmons and Woodley, but a year further along. Props to the Steelers for knowing how to draft 3-4 LBs.

by kwoog on Sep 8, 2008 1:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hmm

I watched pretty much the whole game, and I wouldn’t say the secondary was absolutely terrible, but I would say inconsistent. Owens was very open on that deep play, and I didn’t see a blitz. I don’t know why you’d not blitz and have Owens single-covered deep. Also, Witten ravaged the defense, even when he had a safety on him. There were other times that Romo had about 8 seconds to find an open receiver, but couldn’t, so they must have be doing something right. I think what it comes down to is that you have a very young secondary with little depth. Young players make mistakes, and when a team has 3-4 very good receiving options, your 3rd or 4th CB or S can’t get it done.

You’re right about Rogers and your LB’s, though. Rogers looked great. He penetrated, blew up running plays, took up multiple blockers, and even got QB pressure. He looked like a mix of Jamal Williams and Casey Hampton (who, btw, has been outstanding so far ;), but without better performances from the LB’s, your run defense still won’t be great. When he throws his blocker into the RB, other people still have to make the tackles and stay in cutback lanes, etc. It’s pretty close to the mess he was in in Detriot, so if they don’t get better, it’s reasonable to think his play might drop off some.

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by BadMaafala on Sep 8, 2008 2:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m not surprised you didn’t see a blitz. Jackson has an uncanny ability not to get noticed when he’s on the field.

by kwoog on Sep 8, 2008 3:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good points

Hopefully, your Browns LB’s do Not step it up this season
; )

Need pressure, or ANY secondary will look bad.

by tkired on Sep 10, 2008 8:36 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Form a Yinzer in Seattle

Seattle’s PR dept. did not win an award from the NFL for nothing. They have been able to convince the world that the Hawk D is the next ‘79 Steelers or ’85 Bears. Nice sales job, they should be in politics. This defense is vastly over-rated. As all things Seahawks you might want to consider the competition and I’m not just talking about the NFC West.

Last year they feasted on the worst QBs in the NFL. The vaunted Hawks defense and LBs of ’07 were against the following QBs (with their all-time winning percentages): McCown (.387), Leinart (.438), Dilfer – twice (.454), Grossman (beaten out by Orton), Frerotte (.446), Feeley (.467), Moore (.323), Smith – Baltimore, A Smith – SF (.367), Redman (.400) and Collins (.476). Not one of these QBs will ever be a No 1 starter for an NFL team again barring injuries. Added to this is the fact that the Rams, Niners and Cardinals were three of the five teams in the NFL whose starting QBs missed the most games due to injury and the Rams and Niners were two of the five teams with the most starting offensive linemen missing due to injury.

When the Hawks did go against a quality QB such as Brees (.516), Favre (.625), Roethlisberger (.710), Palmer (.525), Anderson (.556) and Warner (.576) (he lit them up for 3 TDs) they stunk the place up.

by bigmaq on Sep 8, 2008 1:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Belicek the Genius?

Without Brady, which Belicek will emerge? Will it be Pats-Belicek or Browns-Belicek?

by bigmaq on Sep 8, 2008 1:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We'll see

but I wouldn’t be surprised if they still won their division or at least made the playoffs. Love him or hate him, Belichick has whatever players he has ready play against whoever they play on Sunday. They still have Moss and Welker, and if Cassel doesn’t know their system by now, he never will. It’s a long season, and they may be even more motivated to do whatever it takes to win since they’re no longer favored to go 16-0. They could win the division as a scrappy 10-6 team no one really wants to play in the playoffs, like they did in 2001 before Brady was that great. It really depends on how well they respond to his absence.

Something else to keep in mind: we watched them beat a crappy Chiefs team this week while Matt Cassel put up a 116 QB rating and their top 2 backs ran for 5ypc. Honestly, with the exception of a few games, their schedule doesn’t get much harder. It’s very possible that they, the Bills, and the Jets all make the playoffs. Those teams have easier schedules and could be better than the Browns, Texans, Titans, and Jags.

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by BadMaafala on Sep 8, 2008 2:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'd agree

the big thing with Brady out will likely be the playoff games, where he has produced time and again. We’ll see if he or Cassel is ready by then.

by tkired on Sep 10, 2008 8:38 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

spinning around the league

 - Anyone else think that the Titans are a better team with Kerry Collins at QB? Chris Johnson looks like an absolute stud, they’re starting to look pretty smart for reaching on him in the first.

 - Can we please stop mentioning Carson Palmer’s name among the best QBs in the league? He was shown up by Joe Flacco yesterday and could only manage to complete 40% of his passes.

 - Anyone buying the Eagles hype now or were they just playing a pathetic Rams team?

by cgolden on Sep 8, 2008 2:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmmm...

I definately think Vince Young is garbage on the NFL level. His athleticism is neutralized – and without that he is just a below average passer. Kerry Collins is the man – once he quit riding bicycles drunk things really turned around for him.

I don’t think Palmer has ever recovered from his Von Oelhoffen. I know I didn’t. At some point he should fall out of the ‘top 3’ conversation they like to have (Brady, Roethlisberger, Brees).

I think the Eagles are legit – they always play pretty tough – they picked up Samuel so that will let Jim Johnson run his brand of D where they leave the CBs alone. Westbrook is a dual threat stud. It all depends if Donavon can stay healthy – plus Desean should have a nice year.

by smashmouthsteel on Sep 8, 2008 3:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Eagles

I think they’ll be good, but not as good as the scored looked. The defense is what was truly impressive. They bottled up Jackson and kept Bulger from beating them. McNabb took some pretty serious gambles with the ball, and his WR’s made great adjustments against a bad secondary. If he plays like that against Dallas or Washington, he’s going to throw some picks. The offense should still be pretty good, though, and the D is good enough to cover for an occasional int. They have a good, balanced team and will give us a very tough game in a few weeks.

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by BadMaafala on Sep 8, 2008 3:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good health +mcnabb + westy

is a solid team, and they destroyed a very bad rams
Since their NFC title game runs, they having fielded tough teams that have been competitive (when healthy), I’d like to see them hit the cowboys and giants and I’d think they can at that

as for the bengals and palmer, I didn’t see that game, I did read some accounts of the game that mentioned he looks like he gave up, on the team, on football, on winning- maybe that’s on him, but the organization is in shambles and continues to be, and that comes from ownership down

I definitely think the titans are a better team without vince, he’s the rex grossman of that team. It was a bad draft pick, and because he was taken high, given money, and the team won his rookie year, it will be difficult to simply dump him. But if they could dump mcnair with such poor class- a guy who earned his stripes playing much better ball than young ever has, I don’t see why they can’t similarly toss young out.

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