AFC Jibber Jabber and Arizona Cardinals at Carolina Panthers Open Thread
Not sure too many of us really care what happens tonight, but there's only 6 games of NFL football left in the 2008 season. I imagine some of y'all may watch even with zero rooting interest. Hey, Arizona is Steelers West, so if you're so inclined cheer on Ken Whisenhunt, Russ Grimm and a bunch of other castaways like Sean Morey and Clark Haggans as they travel to Carolina to take on Jake Delhomme, Steve Smith and the two headed rushing attack of the Panthers.
More importantly though - let the giddy anticipation of tomorrow's game and talk about that wacky and ugly prize fight between the Baltimore Ravens and the Tennessee Titans continue on here. Congratulations to Baltimore for doing the improbable - bouncing back from a sub par 2007 to make the AFC title game under the direction of a 1st year coach and rookie QB.
Impressive stuff, but let's be real for a second: Baltimore got owned in today's game. 391 yards for the Titans. Just 211 for the Ravens. 3 red zone turnovers did in Tennessee today; a 4th turnover on downs well inside Baltimore territory only added to their frustrating day finishing off drives. 12 penalties for well over 100 yards never help either. Remember how we only scored 11 points on well over 400 total yards of offense against the Chargers? This was that game for Tennessee. Very good to brilliant execution for 90 % of the game; but catastrophic for 5 snaps and 12 penalties and all the good gets counterfeited in a hurry.
We'll see what comes out in the early week injury reports - provided we even care and haven't lost to the Chargers tomorrow - but the early prognosis is one of carnage. Terrell Suggs, Samari Rolle - both went down to injury. LeRon McClain and OT Willie Anderson as well. I have no information as of now so will just say that both teams absolutely beat the tar out of each other all day. For Baltimore, the big hits too often came after big gains for Tennessee. Fill each other in when possible as information becomes available.
Anyway..
Boy oh boy have the stars aligned for the 2008 Pittsburgh Steelers. There are two teams standing in our way from a trip to the Super Bowl - an 8-8 SD team without two of its best offensive play makers; and a Baltimore team that's beat up on defense and clearly not that impressive on offense unless given multiple opportunities vis a vis turnovers.
For those who wanted revenge at Tennessee - that's all fine and well. I will say though that I'm more inclined to understand if the reason is derived from wanting to get payback for the showboating the Titans enjoyed at the Steelers expense in victory. But if you want Pittsburgh to have the best possible path towards glory - wow, I couldn't feel more strongly that this was the ideal development for the Steelers.
Baltimore's tough, but what we saw Tennessee do today offensively in between the 20s was pretty darn impressive. Kerry Collins was precise; Chris Johnson was running wild; Justin Gage looked like Jerry Rice; and once more their offensive line was dominant. They owned the Ravens for most of the night opening up gaping running lanes and protecting Collins in the pocket. It may have been a product of fatigue in Week 15, but the Tittans tackles pretty much silenced Woodley and Deebo. Harrison of course got his sack, but it was a tough day at the office for them. Baltimore's offensive line vs. James Harrison and LaMarr Woodley. Yes Please!,
Baltimore on the other hand was shaky running the ball. Flacco didn't get anything going outside of one bomb early and a few FG drives. More importantly though, this Ravens defense is not as scary as people make it out to be. You have to give them credit for both forcing and pouncing on those fumbles, but you still can't dismiss the fact that the Titans did whatever the hell they wanted to all day long, particularly in the first half before Chris Johnson got injured. This was highway robbery by the Ravens but hey, they created some of those breaks for themselves and took advantage. When they needed it most, Flacco delivered and stayed collected under pressure. He and Baltimore live to see another day somehow. It's been an amazing season for them and they are certainly capable of playing better than they did today next week.
But we've all but shut them out the first two meetings. LeRon McClain was about the only Ravens player to have any sort of offensive success in the second game, but it's not clear yet if he is going to be avaiable or at 100%.
Discuss away. I'm so excited I can't even describe it, but of course, there's this little thing called a football game that we must win tomorrow before moving on to the ultimate potential match up a week from now. A winner-take-all finale against the hated Ravens. In our house. I must resist writing about why this is such an ideal development outside of that pesky but often perilous thing called revenge. I sure hope I get a chance to though tomorrow evening or early Monday.
Please, please Steelers..take care of business tomorrow against a team you're physically superior to. Everything has broken just right. It'd be a shame to at least not get to the final showdown.
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After watching so much college football during the bowls, I must state the obvious and say
NFL Football is FAR superior to the college game. OMG, NFL football is awesome. I don’t know how I’m gonna make it until tomorrow.
by houksyndrome on
Jan 10, 2009 8:16 PM EST
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agreed
there can be ugly moments..but the games are so close, so tightly contested; so many good individual moments within the games. Love the format and drama of the playoffs. Not one brain cell of mine has been devoted to thinking how ‘unfair’ itd be if we were to lose to BAL. No argument about ‘cheapening the regular season’ coming from me. Sure its hard to win 3x in a row. But we won twice for a reason and the third time would potentially be at our house. Tasty.
Sad the seasons almost over. Im horrified of prospect of no football as of tomorrow evening.
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 8:20 PM EST
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Yeah, I mean no matter what happens tomorrow (or next week if we get that far)
For me, this has been the most exciting and enjoyable year of Steeler football in my life. That stretch where we Beat NE, Dallas and Baltimore all in a row was just amazing. Every game comes down to inches and milliseconds – I guess not so much the NE game ;)
by houksyndrome on
Jan 10, 2009 8:23 PM EST
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"Potentially?"
If we beat SD (please God please) then it’s in Steel Town.
(No disrespect meant)
by Romain El 82 on
Jan 10, 2009 8:23 PM EST
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Let's not go dissing SD too much - we don't want to fall into another '94 trap
by houksyndrome on
Jan 10, 2009 8:25 PM EST
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What would happen
If we diss them too much? Do you think our conversation can have an effect on what happens in the game tomorrow? Do we have that much power?
by worldtrip on
Jan 10, 2009 8:29 PM EST
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ok enough
we’ve heard you say that a few times. leave people be.
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 8:30 PM EST
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damn AZ could get blown out of the stadium here in the first 30 minutes
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 8:32 PM EST
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I might as well pull for AZ in this one bc. of Whiz and Grimm - Grimm is in AZ now too right?
by houksyndrome on
Jan 10, 2009 8:33 PM EST
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yea for the time being
OL coach and Asst head coach. He could get hired somewhere though as early as this week if the Cards lose. His names been thrown around lots.
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 8:35 PM EST
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that stop was huge
Ill say it still even with it 7-0. I think this games going to be close till the end. Another long drive though by Carolina on that previous one would have been devastating. Turned the field though field postiion wise and are in bizness. Had to avoid a big early hole though and it looks like theyre off the brink of disaster for now.
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 8:37 PM EST
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yea he really is
People want to call Holmes a bust and not as good as guys like Fitz, but to me, thats not fair. Hes a total freak. Really special.
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 8:38 PM EST
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one of the reasons i like cards chances to hang around
is Whiz’s big game success in the past.
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 8:41 PM EST
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Good point - I remember thinking we were gonna get blown out by the Colts in that playoff game in '05-06
I got wasted the night before and then watched the game with a ridiculous hangover. Needless to say, the finish of the game nearly killed me.
by houksyndrome on
Jan 10, 2009 8:43 PM EST
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I think I just saw terrible towels in the stands at carolina?
by houksyndrome on
Jan 10, 2009 8:50 PM EST
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i hate the NFL pass interference rule
Teams should throw up jump balls deep much more often. sich high reward for little risk
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 8:51 PM EST
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I am on the fence
On the one hand, offenses get the benefit of being able to draw huge PI gains on dubious jump balls. Then again, there are times when the defender is beat for a TD and basically tackles the WR to prevent a 50 yard TD. Plays like that should get the full 50 yard penalty IMO and not just 15 yards.
by houksyndrome on
Jan 10, 2009 8:54 PM EST
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AFC playoffs...
Ok, now the steelers have homefield advantage with two beat up teams in their way.
If they don’t get it done now… then they don’t deserve to make it to the SB. I am hoping the football gods shine nicely on us tomorrow… as an 8-8 team should not be able to host a AFCCG. And not to mention, NFL fans would love to see a Steelers/Ravens AFCCG.
Lets get revenge tomorrow for 94! Lets go Steelers!
AND BTW… I just saw a Terrible Towel at the Carlolina/AZ game! LOL
by Danto85 on
Jan 10, 2009 8:55 PM EST
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haha
ure right, if SD wins theyd be the first team ever i think to be 8-8 and hosting a title game.
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 9:06 PM EST
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WOW
another turnover – this game just might turn out like the last one
by acrollet on
Jan 10, 2009 8:55 PM EST
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omg
goal line turnover. unreal. they get too far behind, they cant use that running game. upset alert!!!!!!!!
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 8:57 PM EST
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i'm definitely rooting for the cards in this one
like kurt warner, some ex-steelers there, and oh yeah, I htink we match up with them pretty well :)
by acrollet on
Jan 10, 2009 8:58 PM EST
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lol
its probably not good in some totally speculative sense for AZ to beat CAR. Gives winner of PHI/NYG likely cake walk in title game before meeting us in SB :)
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 9:07 PM EST
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Also
The cardinals can’t go to the superbowl cause I have a rather disgusting bet with a friend of mine that we made before the season started where I said the cards would not go to the super bowl.
by Wichita SunSteeler on
Jan 10, 2009 9:09 PM EST
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oh shit man
you may be in trouble. if philly wins, they host the eagles. Theyre dangerous as anybody at home. Whats the bet!!???!!
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 11, 2009 12:08 AM EST
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and if i were a betting man
which i occasionally am, id take the eagles in a heart beat tomorrow. my thoughts make me like how they matchup with them and i think new yorks not going to have enough offense to do much sans plax. nobody worthy of double teaming in giants wrs.
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 11, 2009 12:09 AM EST
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But out of the choices that we have, I think I’d like to see Carolina the least. I don’t mind the idea of a rematch vs either NY or Philly, and Arizona making it would be of course a best-case and highly unlikely scenario.
Brandona
by PrimantisStillersNAt on
Jan 10, 2009 9:10 PM EST
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I would love
To play philly again, Our Line has improved so much that I think we could really have a good game witht hem
by Wichita SunSteeler on
Jan 10, 2009 9:13 PM EST
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do you get the feeling
the rooneys couldn’t have gone wrong between tomlin, whiz, or grimm?
by worldtrip on
Jan 10, 2009 8:59 PM EST
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definitely all are good canidates
but I think they made a really good choice. Tomlin relates to the players in a way you don’t see much…
by acrollet on
Jan 10, 2009 9:00 PM EST
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Grimm...
I remember in the Tribune-Review after Tomlin was hired, I forget which writer it was (Joe Starkey?) made the good point Grimm probably would have run a rather Neanderthal offense. Although I highly doubt we’d be seeing the mistakes along the o-line we’ve been seenng…
by Hines Ward on
Jan 10, 2009 9:03 PM EST
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definitely not the same OLIne mistakes
But who knows about special teams; who knows about guys like William Gay, McFadden, Ike going to the next level; Clark playing high caliber mistake free football. Pros and cons.
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 9:04 PM EST
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Who knows indeed
But with the job they are doing in AZ, seems like whoever Rooney picked we’d be singing their praises.
by worldtrip on
Jan 10, 2009 9:06 PM EST
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No Argument
I just often wonder what would have happened. Would Ben and Whiz have co-existed? Would the defense be this historic had Whiz or Grimm gotten the job? Seems like Whiz didn’t have much faith in Ben, so who knows… maybe we’d still be seeing a Neanderthal offense if he were running the show.
by Hines Ward on
Jan 10, 2009 9:07 PM EST
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oh man
carolinas in trouble. cant let AZ think they can win. Whiz will step on the gas too not get conservative. this is gotta be scary if u like CAR
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 9:02 PM EST
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big stop for CAR
that stops the bleeding some.
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 9:03 PM EST
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Alright fellas, I gotta get moving, See you all later.
by houksyndrome on
Jan 10, 2009 9:04 PM EST
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Great job Blitz today
Greetings Steeler fans. Great job today Blitz in analyzing the Ravens’ win. Totally agreed with your analysis, starting early in the game with the Titans wasting scoring opportunities to the final summation of how this would be a better matchup for the Steelers next weekend. Ravens were outplayed by a wide margin but did just enough to take home the gift victory. Basically, they had five or six positive offensive plays all day and their defense gave up nearly 400 yards to a team that lost its biggest weapon late in the first half. Baltimore also lost a starting OT (Anderson), a starting CB got dinged and their power RB got banged up and was ineffective. If you get in Flacco’s face, he is not going to complete many passes. Tomorrow I’m expecting a convincing Steelers’ win (something like 23-6) to set up a strikeout of the Ravens next weekend. As for Ariz-Carolina, despite the shaky start for the Panthers and my respect for Warner-Fitzgerald, I think the Panthers get things together and grind out a win by 10-plus points. Keep up the good work!
by steeler.lifer on
Jan 10, 2009 9:05 PM EST
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Jinx free zone
I am not going to predict anything.. but it would be reallly neat if the Steelers won tomorrow. A matchup with the Raven for a SB berth would be epic.
This might be the best road the steelers will ever get to the SB we can not throw this away!
by Danto85 on
Jan 10, 2009 9:10 PM EST
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howdy senor
thanks!
yeah i really felt like BAL was going to win before halftime even with all that disparity in productivity. Thought TN would slow down offensively in the 2nd half after Rex Ryan made some adjustments at half, but to my surprise, TN kept slicing and dicing them. Couldnt believe it. Of course the turnovers AGAIN in the 2nd half did them in. That loss is going to haunt TEN and its fans for a loooooong time. BAL did next to nothing other than punt the ball and cover kicks well and not get too many penalties in the few critical and sustaining drives/moments of the game for them.
Hope youre right about tomorrow. Sounds like a score I coud live with. I’ll give the Chargers a cheap TD somewhere though, 23-13
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 9:11 PM EST
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serious respect to the cards
for coming out swinging in a big way
by acrollet on
Jan 10, 2009 9:13 PM EST
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Fitzgerald is so good
Panthers look a little rusty after the bye; the Cardinals are playing to their strengths and built up some momentum last week in their first meaningful game in a month. Here’s a question: Who is the NFL’s best receiver: Andre Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald or Steve Smith?
by steeler.lifer on
Jan 10, 2009 9:19 PM EST
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sheesh
not sure. all are so sick and all have tiny knocks on them for injury reasons. not sure how u can differentiate. id take fitzgerald over them all though i think. but i really think hes helped a ton by having Q play with him. AZ needs to pay him and use this window to win now if Warner played next year. They have some cap space for a few other vital pieces but i think people dismiss too quickly what Q does for Fitz and vice versa.
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 11, 2009 12:12 AM EST
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and really
theres no major injury concerns. theyre all 1 a. b. c.
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 11, 2009 12:13 AM EST
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jeez
did GM spend all their bailout money on chevy commercials? this is getting ridiculous
by acrollet on
Jan 10, 2009 9:13 PM EST
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Chevy commercials and corporate jets I guess.
Brandona
by PrimantisStillersNAt on
Jan 10, 2009 9:14 PM EST
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did they really say
that fitzgerald is already over 200 yrds?
by acrollet on
Jan 10, 2009 9:16 PM EST
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they’re hardly covering the guy!! this is strange
Brandona
by PrimantisStillersNAt on
Jan 10, 2009 9:17 PM EST
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They didnt change anything
when they figured out Boldin wasnt playing, Im not convinced with what Arizona is doing I think that Carolina will come out next half and put the smack on them.
by Wichita SunSteeler on
Jan 10, 2009 9:19 PM EST
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typical Whiz
expected to be passing, goes to the run more than almost anytime all year in a first half.
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 9:18 PM EST
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back from dinner
Fitzgerald is amazing.
But I would go for it on 4th and 1
by ZnJersey on
Jan 10, 2009 9:21 PM EST
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read my thingy above..
totally agree
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 9:22 PM EST
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BOOOOOOOOOOO!
mistake there. Just like it was a mistake for Fisher to not go for it on 4th and 1 from 10 yard line with 5 minutes left. Had momentum, could have forced BAL to score TD to win it. Even if they dont get it, theres 5 minutes, they had a time out or two, and field position in their favor.
against us, fisher went for the jugular and they buried us. didnt today and it cost him.
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 9:22 PM EST
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wow, the announcer’s harsh. “You’re not expected to be here…”
Brandona
by PrimantisStillersNAt on
Jan 10, 2009 9:21 PM EST
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you have the best receiver in the game
let him make a play underneath or in the flat
by ZnJersey on
Jan 10, 2009 9:21 PM EST
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They should have went for it
A TD there would have been huge
by El_Kabong on
Jan 10, 2009 9:22 PM EST
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eh
if you believe in momentum, you keep it going your way with the FG, and lose some confidence if you do get stuffed…
by acrollet on
Jan 10, 2009 9:22 PM EST
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simple statistics say go for it 100% of the time there imo
but for some reason, conservatism reigns supreme over simple math based logic. it will change eventually in the game of football, but sheesh, doesnt look like anytime soon.
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 9:24 PM EST
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Good Call
In no way do you give Carolina a chance to get the momentum back
by Jett on
Jan 10, 2009 9:22 PM EST
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and that kick return is why you go for it
he had a long one to start the game
but there goes Delhomme with a bad play
by ZnJersey on
Jan 10, 2009 9:24 PM EST
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Thats why you kick the FG
Another INT, carolina has no confidenc
by Jett on
Jan 10, 2009 9:24 PM EST
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hahaha
well hell, if theyre going to suck it up, doesnt much matter!
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 9:25 PM EST
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i think fisher blew it earlier too
as i wrote above. but whatever, no sense in 2nd guessing cuz clearly theres an overriding philosophy that permeates the game – its not based in any sort of logical thinking at all or strategic thinking. i really dont get it.
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 9:25 PM EST
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Housework
It’s 7 – 0, and Carolina looks dominant, so I get up to do some housework. I come back 30 minutes later and it’s 17-7 Arizona… oy.
Go Wiz!
by PaulMorel on
Jan 10, 2009 9:25 PM EST
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People Said...
Arizona was the worst team to get into the playoffs. Look at them now. This is why you never take teams for granted come playoff time. Including San Diego.
by Hines Ward on
Jan 10, 2009 9:26 PM EST
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from your lips to the Steelers’ ears.
by PaulMorel on
Jan 10, 2009 9:27 PM EST
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I certainly do hope they are watching.
by Hines Ward on
Jan 10, 2009 9:27 PM EST
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omg
are they really going to bury CAR in the 1st half! TD HERE, GO GO GO!
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 9:26 PM EST
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lots of time of course
but carolinas only really such a dangerous team when they get to run it time and time again, then go deep on play action. theyre in a world of trouble now if they have to abandon the run more than they want. lots of time though.
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 9:27 PM EST
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they best score here
whos the carolina back up qb??
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 9:27 PM EST
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ah, big young'n
cannon arm, no savvy at all about where to go with the ball. sounds like some guy along lake erie who was a beaver :)
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 9:30 PM EST
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whered he go to college, names not ringing an initial bell
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 9:29 PM EST
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what color is his hair? his eyes? does he like italian food and long walks on the beach?
by PaulMorel on
Jan 10, 2009 9:30 PM EST
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haha
anybody like the movie fletch?
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 9:30 PM EST
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my favorite of all time...is that sad?
by ZnJersey on
Jan 10, 2009 9:31 PM EST
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HELL NO
my favorite movie too.
recite every line start to finsih..
buenos dias…puffy taco.
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 9:32 PM EST
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been meaning to email u anyway
have a question for u..will do so after the season.
pleased i have a fellow fletch fanatic…expect random fletch quote inserts from me in posts. u better notice them :)
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 9:33 PM EST
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Mooooon Riiiiver
Using the whole fist there doc?
"Whaddya' mean all the beer is gone..?
by OhioYinzer on
Jan 10, 2009 10:00 PM EST
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maybe i want carolina
to score here and make it respectable so we can see more passes to Fitz.
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 9:29 PM EST
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maybe matt leinart will get some time in today
by acrollet on
Jan 10, 2009 9:30 PM EST
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Look how fired up the Cards are. You can definitely tell Whiz learned a few motivational tactics from Mr. Cowher.
by Hines Ward on
Jan 10, 2009 9:31 PM EST
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he kinda looks like a lost love child of woody harrelsons dad
so he has a wild side perhaps that needs to be unleashed :)
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 9:32 PM EST
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once he learns the Chin Move he’ll be set
Brandona
by PrimantisStillersNAt on
Jan 10, 2009 9:32 PM EST
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Moore was great at OSU
Played for Mike Riley at Oregon State and had a couple of great seasons. Not drafted in 97, signed and cut by Cowboys.
by steeler.lifer on
Jan 10, 2009 9:32 PM EST
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who was that white WR that he threw to
drafted or signed free agent by the bears (i think)
by ZnJersey on
Jan 10, 2009 9:34 PM EST
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Cards Need to Make a Mistake
If Carolina is going to get back into this game… not that I want them to.
by PaulMorel on
Jan 10, 2009 9:33 PM EST
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me neither
carolina’s run game + steve smith scare me. I think our deebo + woodley can really get after warner if it came to that.
by acrollet on
Jan 10, 2009 9:35 PM EST
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I hear you. I would rather play the Cards then any other team left in the NFC.
by PaulMorel on
Jan 10, 2009 9:37 PM EST
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anything can happen, would you not agree?
Brandona
by PrimantisStillersNAt on
Jan 10, 2009 9:36 PM EST
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i see no reason to think that CAR will snap out of it
all its going to take is 1 score from AZ in second half and this is history. i hope they go for pts here
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 9:35 PM EST
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their first drive looked really good
anything can happen…
by acrollet on
Jan 10, 2009 9:36 PM EST
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too much faith in whiz
and too much experience for warner to do anything dumb. its going to take a 1/30 or so miracle for a comeback. AZ can just about shut the door to start the 2nd half – get ball to open. 17 points aint much, considering AZ has given up shittons of points on multiple occassions this year. But the offense looks pretty damn unflappable and the running game is doing just enough to keep the chains moving.
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 9:38 PM EST
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panthers are much better than this
But they’re shell-shocked. They’ll make it close in the second half once they realize their season is 30 minutes from termination. Cards aren’t going to the Super Bowl regardless but I would like our chances against another NFC West team.
by steeler.lifer on
Jan 10, 2009 9:37 PM EST
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lol
no joke. cant see AZ winning in the frigid NE where record snows coming perhaps.
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 9:39 PM EST
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Question - Why does James Farrior get no love nationally
I believe he was 3rd All-Pro
by ZnJersey on
Jan 10, 2009 9:38 PM EST
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wrong position for stats
MLBs in 34s get tons more tackles
and he doesnt get to rush the QB and get sacks like the 43 LBs who are blitzing all the time. just lazyness from the media as per usual.
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 9:40 PM EST
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so when Ray Lewis whiffs because he is old and slow that guarantees him a 1st Team
by ZnJersey on
Jan 10, 2009 9:41 PM EST
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hehe
Dunno, but our own Troy P got an All Pro selection when he didnt really deserve it.
Maybe theyre scared Lewis will hunt them down.
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 9:42 PM EST
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You didn’t think Troy deserved an All-Pro selection this year?!
by Hines Ward on
Jan 10, 2009 9:45 PM EST
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no no
Not 2008 Troy P.
2007 Troy P.
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 9:45 PM EST
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2008 has been amazing
Was curious if someone was going to think i meant this year. just saying in 06 and 07 he wasnt the same as he was in 05 and 08 but he got same accolades
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 9:46 PM EST
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Oh
I was gonna say :)
And I totally agree. He got his All-Pro and Pro Bowl selections based on reputation those years. But this year has only solidified the reason he has that reputation.
by Hines Ward on
Jan 10, 2009 9:47 PM EST
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no kidding
maybe it is because Delhomme is terrible
by ZnJersey on
Jan 10, 2009 9:45 PM EST
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Smith regular season
rec. 72, 1421 yds and missed the first two games because he was playing Mike Tyson’s Punchout
by ZnJersey on
Jan 10, 2009 9:48 PM EST
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The Whiz
I am kind of proud that the Whiz is doing so well w/ the Cardinals. I really miss his offensive play calling but I am really happy that the Whiz has found success in Arizona.
by Vtechnwn on
Jan 10, 2009 9:44 PM EST
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definitely..
love big game coaches. thats whiz.
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 9:45 PM EST
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70 net yards for Panthers
And about 240 for Cardinals
by steeler.lifer on
Jan 10, 2009 9:46 PM EST
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wow
that was super close to another 3 points.
by acrollet on
Jan 10, 2009 9:48 PM EST
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This is how the earlier game should have looked
by ZnJersey on
Jan 10, 2009 9:48 PM EST
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Exactly
If Tennessee scores on the same opportunities that Arizona did, it would have been over at halftime by about the same score.
by steeler.lifer on
Jan 10, 2009 9:50 PM EST
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I really can't believe Tenny played like that today
worst game they played all year
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Jan 10, 2009 9:50 PM EST
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not really
was one of the better games they played all year – except when they got to the redzone. EVERYTHING was clicking for them though until it was time to finsih the drives. 400 yards against Baltimore is no joke, even if i dont think theyre in the same class as our defense.
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 9:54 PM EST
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i was thinking penalties and turnovers
other than that they moved the ball well and played good D
by ZnJersey on
Jan 10, 2009 9:57 PM EST
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def huge parts of the game
difference makers.
guess why they say its a game of inches. cliched but very true. two or three plays taints an otherwise dominant day. instead theyre out and labeled as awful. fine line. we better be ready to FINISH drives and the game tomorrow!
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 9:58 PM EST
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Wasnt just turnovers
Even with the huge turnover different Tennessee could have won. Their D had a chance to get the game into overtime and didn’t get the job done. Turnovers are not as misleading a statistic as yards that don’t produce points.
by steeler.lifer on
Jan 10, 2009 10:04 PM EST
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dont they go hand in hand
Yards that lead to no points often do so b/c of turnovers?
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 10:04 PM EST
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Not always
Settling for FGs instead of TDs, being sacked out of FG range, turning the ball over on downs … What you do at the end of drives is always more important than what gets you in scoring position.
by steeler.lifer on
Jan 10, 2009 10:08 PM EST
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makes sense
I still think TN is the far more capable offensive team. Much much better up front. Collins has clearly been in a rhythm. Would have not liked our chances in that game in Nashville.
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 10:10 PM EST
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totally agree
If Tennessee had won by a score reflecting the game, it would have presented a pretty formidable task to go in there and win. Not impossible of course but a much tougher prospect than the one laid out now.
by steeler.lifer on
Jan 10, 2009 10:12 PM EST
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rather
not liked our chances nearly as much.
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 10:10 PM EST
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carolina better make a charge right now
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 10:10 PM EST
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This is an egg-laying performance of epic proportions
So much for coming out fired up for the second half, or with a good offensive series scripted to start things off.
by steeler.lifer on
Jan 10, 2009 10:18 PM EST
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Same for Carolina
This is by far their worst game of the year, perhaps not a coincidence they were both surprise division winners, coming off great seasons, and then had a bye
by steeler.lifer on
Jan 10, 2009 9:52 PM EST
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CAR is befuddling.
TEN not so much. They played well just killed themselves at the wrong time. Carolina is just awful tonight. Turnovers again are everything, but TENs at least were not just sloppy BS like what were seeing from Delhomme. I thought some of those fumbles were just more bad luck. Also very rare to fumble 3 times and lose all 3. Wouldnt have taken too much more for them to still win even with all those penalties and mistakes.
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 9:57 PM EST
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Panthers had 18 official plays
In the first half. Nine passes, nine runs. Arizona had 39 plays, including 20 runs.
by steeler.lifer on
Jan 10, 2009 9:54 PM EST
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Anybody have any score predictions for the games tomorrow
I’m going with 23-14 Steelers and 16-14 Giants
by ZnJersey on
Jan 10, 2009 9:55 PM EST
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I think the Steelers will win, if not comfortably.
They have the #1 defense and have the luxury of Mother Nature on their side. Also, I refuse to believe Norv Turner is a competent coach. As long as the Steelers establish the run while stopping the Chargers’ (AKA Sproles), it’s in the bag, because it is not a game for passing tomorrow.
Meanwhile, the Steelers members trolling on the Titans blog is not cool.
PLAYOFFS?!
by SSreporters on
Jan 10, 2009 9:59 PM EST
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im not the internet police
he knows hes not really welcome to speak for btsc thats for sure. totally lame but not my issue. hes not really a community member here.
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 10:00 PM EST
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ive been kinda impressed by Norv
the past month. especially last week. thought he called a good game.
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Jan 10, 2009 10:00 PM EST
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he's 2-0 vs Tony Dungy too
Money talks! Hes going to need a great game plan tomorrow.
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 10:01 PM EST
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One thing concerns me, Big Ben always seems to play poorly in home playoff games
And yes, the Super Bowl was a home game. ;-)
PLAYOFFS?!
by SSreporters on
Jan 10, 2009 10:02 PM EST
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past is the past
tiny sample sizes. Not enough to make any conclusions.
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 10:07 PM EST
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need Ben to snap out of it and forget everything about the regular season
and just play smart and confident – hes totally capable of turning on that ‘switch’. just havent seen it often enough. here’s hoping we will tomorrow. dissected SD last game.
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 10:08 PM EST
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I would love to see us get off to a good start tomorrow
it would make my viewing a lot easier
by ZnJersey on
Jan 10, 2009 10:10 PM EST
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FIRST and foremost
The idiot posting smack over at the Titans site should be banned from all of the blogs. What an imbecile. Second, I could not help thinking that the same thing could happen to us tomorrow if we don’t protect the football. Run all over SD and lose because we couldn’t hold the rock. I thought B-more looked unimpressive today. And why did they interview Flacco after the game? Is it now fashionable to put guys on camera that “manage the game”? (Boy do I hate that saying).
"Whaddya' mean all the beer is gone..?
by OhioYinzer on
Jan 10, 2009 10:11 PM EST
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flacco was good late. thats about it, on the final drive.
better late than never tho i guess
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Jan 10, 2009 10:12 PM EST
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that was a nice catch
fairly lucky and risky throw by flacco.
and that play shouldnt have counted- game clock expired!
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Jan 10, 2009 10:14 PM EST
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I would say
adequate and darn lucky. That no call on the delay of game was vital, and Heap had a heck of a catch.
"Whaddya' mean all the beer is gone..?
by OhioYinzer on
Jan 10, 2009 10:14 PM EST
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Sorry posted that right after yours appeared
"Whaddya' mean all the beer is gone..?
by OhioYinzer on
Jan 10, 2009 10:15 PM EST
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all good
didn’t clayton come up with a huge grab on that last drive??
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Jan 10, 2009 10:16 PM EST
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I thought it was Heap
But I could be mistaken.
"Whaddya' mean all the beer is gone..?
by OhioYinzer on
Jan 10, 2009 10:17 PM EST
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both had big catches
heap over the middle
clayton on the near side line i think
by ZnJersey on
Jan 10, 2009 10:21 PM EST
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8 yrd grab to make it a 43 yd FG instead of 51 yd FG or punt
on 3rd and 9
by ZnJersey on
Jan 10, 2009 10:17 PM EST
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Was that
the one over the middle?
"Whaddya' mean all the beer is gone..?
by OhioYinzer on
Jan 10, 2009 10:18 PM EST
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they made the plays they had towhen they had to
thats why u cant leave points on the board like that time and time again. Pros are too good not to take advantage. But really other than a few moments they sucked.
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 10:18 PM EST
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big opportunity if carolinas gonna get in it
moving backwards now out of FG range after the pick.
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 10:20 PM EST
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unreal
hes been pretty good all year. hasnt he?
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 10:23 PM EST
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yeah he really hasn't been put in this type of come from behind position
he led them back week one against Sd
by ZnJersey on
Jan 10, 2009 10:25 PM EST
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haha
there goes that. wow, great play indeed.
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 10:22 PM EST
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crazy turnovers today - hopefully the football gods are getting it out of their system
by ZnJersey on
Jan 10, 2009 10:22 PM EST
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More interception return yards than passing yards
Delhomme has thrown for 3x as many yards to Arizona players as Panthers. 24 net yards passing, 72 yards in interception return yards.
by steeler.lifer on
Jan 10, 2009 10:25 PM EST
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against the Cards’ defense.
Brandona
by PrimantisStillersNAt on
Jan 10, 2009 10:28 PM EST
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hes approaching bruce gradkowski territory
thats never a good thuing
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 10:28 PM EST
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more fun stats
Fitz long catch is 41 yds
More than Delhomme has in the game 35
by ZnJersey on
Jan 10, 2009 10:31 PM EST
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This is a ton of FGs, but at this point it doesn’t really matter.
Brandona
by PrimantisStillersNAt on
Jan 10, 2009 10:26 PM EST
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CAR
is lucky they dont have 40 on them. took their foot off the gas before half; could have gone for it on 4th and 1 deep. that stalled drive. this could be SILLY ugly. Still conceivably time to get back in it.
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 10:28 PM EST
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by silly ugly you mean:
44-6 cough cough???
that was a fun game to watch : )
by ZnJersey on
Jan 10, 2009 10:29 PM EST
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its ugly enough
The whole 4th down debate is a good one but i don’t disagree with Whisenhunt adding on points when he had (has) the opportunity. Going for it on fourth down also gives the other team a chance to come up with a momentum changing play. But you’re right, it could be worse. Panthers are down by 3 scores and can still mount a comeback, strange as that sounds.
by steeler.lifer on
Jan 10, 2009 10:32 PM EST
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it was the timing of it
Wasnt clear then that the game was going to get out of hand like this. A bit later I would say take the pts, but at 14-7 and down at the 10 yard line with a chance to really get a cushion, I like the decision to go.
I just harken back to the Titans game against us. Fisher didnt take the points when he could because he saw a chance to go for the kill. That was different i guess tho, much later in the game.
anyway..
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 10:35 PM EST
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Every situation is different
Hard to come up with a common denominator for all fourth down plays. So much depends on what the coach is feeling on the sidelines about the likelihood of success, whether its 2 feet or 12 feet, and the impact that failure or success might have on the game.
by steeler.lifer on
Jan 10, 2009 10:39 PM EST
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Delhomme is garbage
when i look at him, i am really thankful for Ben Roethlisberger
by ZnJersey on
Jan 10, 2009 10:35 PM EST
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Wow, four straight passes not to your best receiver
Steve Smith must be ready to explode
by steeler.lifer on
Jan 10, 2009 10:35 PM EST
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karmic payback
for his antics in training camp
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Jan 10, 2009 10:39 PM EST
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wow, there’s a play by 43
Brandona
by PrimantisStillersNAt on
Jan 10, 2009 10:37 PM EST
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wow
delay of game immediately at the 0 in this game
and flacco gets 2-3 seconds
by acrollet on
Jan 10, 2009 10:46 PM EST
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unbelievable. Am I dreaming?
Brandona
by PrimantisStillersNAt on
Jan 10, 2009 10:47 PM EST
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Anybody want to start taking bets
On how many he will throw
by Wichita SunSteeler on
Jan 10, 2009 10:47 PM EST
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I’ll take 4. I don’t see him throwing another, but stranger things have happened
Brandona
by PrimantisStillersNAt on
Jan 10, 2009 10:48 PM EST
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what game was that when Romo threw 6 INTs? was that in the playoffs or in regular season?
Brandona
by PrimantisStillersNAt on
Jan 10, 2009 10:49 PM EST
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reg season
vs. the bills. and they still won i think. or had a chance to win.
mannning had 6 ints against SD and lost on missed FG at buzzer
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Jan 10, 2009 10:50 PM EST
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yes they still won btw
nick folk FG i believe
by ZnJersey on
Jan 10, 2009 10:52 PM EST
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that was one of the first Cowboy games I was down in TX for… now I remember. people were kinda reserved about that win.
Brandona
by PrimantisStillersNAt on
Jan 10, 2009 10:54 PM EST
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i bet a fair number of people
bet the farm on carolina tonight.
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 10:51 PM EST
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lot of happy bookies
you won’t see me betting!
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Jan 10, 2009 10:53 PM EST
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65 % on Car vs. spread
51% on Ari ML and 63 % on the over 48
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Jan 10, 2009 10:56 PM EST
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people will just double down next week
whoever the cards face :)
wonder if they can exorcise all their demons and win a snow game on the east coast, and make a SB. would anyone watch the SB if it was BAL-AZ?? I mean everyone watches the SB, but that might have the least national appeal of any game possible. Though i suppose the media would have a 2 week hard on for Warner
by Blitzburgh on
Jan 10, 2009 10:56 PM EST
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i can't believe the cards were getting 10 points
by ZnJersey on
Jan 10, 2009 10:57 PM EST
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its a lot
but not unreasonable. lots to like for Carolina in this game.
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Jan 10, 2009 10:58 PM EST
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I think there'd be interest in seeing an AZ superbowl
They haven’t won in the SB era. Their last championship was 1947 or something like that.
May the wind be always at your back, and may your placekicker have icewater in his veins.
by juperee on
Jan 10, 2009 10:57 PM EST
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yeah
probably some. better than say the rams i guess.
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Jan 10, 2009 10:59 PM EST
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And all those bettors ...
Were counting their winnings when it was 7-0 Carolina 3 minutes into the game.
by steeler.lifer on
Jan 10, 2009 10:55 PM EST
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We run a pool in our family
Just me, the hubby, and the two young teenage boys, but I put down the Ravens to win and the Cards to win. But all we play for is a pack of unopened football cards, and I also had the Colts making it to the AFC game, so I won’t be winning anyway.
May the wind be always at your back, and may your placekicker have icewater in his veins.
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Jan 10, 2009 11:02 PM EST
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well you were 2-0 today, two huge road upsets.
that should be worth a different prize of some sort? Cant mom’s make up rules as they go?? Surely, they can.
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jeez arizona
how about calling some running plays?
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seriously
just freaking run the clock out. at this point its time to sacrifice the 2 minutes of clock over anything else.
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