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Coaching Linked in Two Potential Super Bowl Match-Ups

No one picked this final four for the NFL's conference championships. While Arizona's alleged upset win over Carolina and Philadelphia's shocker over the defending champs were not consenus choices, it's actually not very surprising.

Same thing for Baltimore's win over top-ranked Tennessee, or Pittsburgh's victory over San Diego.

Just look at where the coaches came from. Arizona made the choice to go with Super Bowl champion offensive coordinator Ken Whisenhunt of Pittsburgh back in 2007 - the same season Pittsburgh hired Vikings defensive coordinator Mike Tomlin.

The fact both coaches made their respective conference championship games in their second season is a testament to the wisdom of both franchises.

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In Baltimore, the Ravens capped off a dramatic turnaround, after finishing well out of the playoff race in 2007 under Brian Billick, they made a somewhat surprising pick with John Harbaugh, the former special teams turned defensive backs coach in Philadelphia. While the Ravens made a fantastic turn-around in 2008, the Eagles maintained their usual level of success, and qualified for their fifth NFC Championship game in the past nine years. Reid is also at least somewhat responsible for the development of Harbaugh, and Tomlin's first and only coordinator stint came under Reid's former offensive coordinator, Brad Childress.

So a Steelers-Arizona Super Bowl, or a Philadelphia-Baltimore Super Bowl brings a quasi-Teacher vs. Student match-up. Teams in the NFL looking for a head coach take note: Some franchises develop outstanding coaches.

Whisenhunt and offensive line coach Russ Grimm both coached under former Steelers coach Bill Cowher. Tomlin got the job over both of them, but again, clearly this has worked out well for all franchises involved.

Basically, in the conference championship games, we have four franchises who made excellent personnel decisions - the development of coordinators (Tomlin and Whisenhunt) the dividends paid on going with pure talent over experience (Harbaugh) and the savvy of veteran coaches (Reid).

One cannot consider the conference championship games as coincidental. These match-ups were forged from coaching cradles established in some of the better franchises in the league. More importantly, the winning mentality in those quality franchises is recognized in the younger coaches, and is a big part of the reason for their hire - and their success.

I made the argument in this space for both Tomlin and Harbaugh for Coach of the Year honors, right along with Atlanta's Mike Smith - who won the award. With all due respect to the job Smith did in Atlanta, it shouldn't be a surprise, judging by the backgrounds of these coaches and the personnel decisions of their franchises, they are where they are right now.

And considering the nature of the remaining teams, whatever the match-up is in the Super Bowl, it may not be the last time they are in the positions they are in.

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The irony of ironies...

…would be in the Cardinals won the Super Bowl — or even just made it there — and Whiz wasn’t even a finalist for Coach of the Year.

Kinda reminds you of Dewey Defeats Truman.

That’s why they hold elections….and play the games.

by Homer J. on Jan 13, 2009 9:48 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There are plenty of people who picked the Eagles and Ravens to do things in the playoffs, but I’m pretty sure the Cardinals have shocked everyone. Like the Giants last year, nothing the Cardinals did in the regular season suggested they could pull off the big upsets they have so far. They’re home underdogs (again) in the NFCCG, but they play very well at home, so it will be interesting.

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by BadMaafala on Jan 13, 2009 10:10 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Patriots Coaches

As you say, “Some franchises develop outstanding coaches.”

The coaches that have come out of New England are what make me most sick to my stomach about the cheating. I mean, how did The Patriots win all those Super Bowls? The players were often a hodge-podge bunch (outside of Brady), so the credit usually has to go to the coaches.

But look at their careers outside of the cheating years. 0 Super Bowls all around.

Crennel in Cleveland? Gone. Mangini in New York? Gone. Weis at Notre Dame? Haven’t we heard enough about this from ESPN?

So, long story short, I agree that good franchises make good coaches. It’s one of the things that makes me most angry about spy-gate – if they spying wasn’t helping them win Super Bowls, then where’s the success outside of that?

by PaulMorel on Jan 13, 2009 11:22 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

—- I should note that this argument is far from rock solid… it’s just something that bothers me.

—- after all, Dick Lebeau was a terrible head coach.

by PaulMorel on Jan 13, 2009 11:23 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

I was going to bring that up.

I'll drink your Milkshake, I'll drink it up!

by drinkyourmilkshake on Jan 13, 2009 1:05 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’d say that LeBeau wasn’t terrible. He had a hand in drafting Palmer, after all.

by Cols714 on Jan 13, 2009 5:52 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

His record would then to disagree..

2000-4-12
2001-6-12
2002-2-14

Also, Carson Palmer was drafted in the 2003 draft, LeBeau was fired after the 2002 season, the only had he had in drafting Carson Palmer was coaching the team to a pathetic record of 2-14.

Also, I am not sure how much imput he had in the draft, but the bengals did have a killer draft in 2001.

Rd. 1- Justin Smith (had a decent career for the bengals and signed a $45 mil. contract with San Fransisco last year)
Rd. 2- Chad Johnson
Rd. 4- Rudi Johnson
Rd. 7- T.J. Housmanzadah

I'll drink your Milkshake, I'll drink it up!

by drinkyourmilkshake on Jan 14, 2009 7:31 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

god I wish we could edit posts, I have at least two sentences that are un-readable.

the first line should read

His record would tend to disagree

The paragraph about carson palmer should be…

Also, Carson Palmer was drafted in the 2003 draft, LeBeau was fired after the 2002 season, the only hand he had in drafting Carson Palmer was coaching the team to a pathetic record of 2-14.

I'll drink your Milkshake, I'll drink it up!

by drinkyourmilkshake on Jan 14, 2009 8:40 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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