Steelers Fans and Ravens Fans Have Something In Common: Rivalry Chirping Open Thread
To prove to you that I am indeed human and not some programmed robot from China or the U.S.S.R Russia, I will up front say that you won't be seeing much of me today. Yesterday was outrageous - 9500 words, about 10 posts, 55 images captured and altered. Was fun but not really sure what the hell just happened this past 30 hours or so since the Steelers kicked off and began their 2008 playoff charge. That game Sunday was so fun I didn't want to let it go and I don't think y'all did either. We'd been waiting too patiently and supportively through an often maddeningly frustrating season for the offense. We finally broke through for nearly a complete game and it came in the playoffs. Of course I wanted to spend hours and hours capturing it step by step!
Anyway, I'm beat like Baltimore at Heinz this coming Sunday as Baltimore both times this year vs. PIT I've been in awhile and needing to play major catch up with school, grumpy clients/employers, basic human vitals, etc. So hold down the fort por favor and I'll check y'all a bit later as we approach the hump day of the week in anticipation for Sunday's penultimate showdown.
Arizona-Philadelphia in the NFC? You serious? I mean, it could be a good game just like any game could be. But it ain't Pittsburgh-Baltimore. Not even close.
Imagine for a second how you're going to be feeling as you watch Ray Lewis fornicate with the air around him, all while yapping endlessly to whomever in the Black & Gold will listen. Or how you'll feel when that first whistle sounds and Matt Stover or Jeff Reed approaches the football for the opening kick off. What about when Ben makes his first big throw due to good pass protection? Or when Hines stays in bounds and picks up an extra four yards after stiff arming a Ravens defender while smiling? Oh, be sure you get a glimpse of Terrell Suggs acting tough in the middle of the football field when Hines is around during the pre-game festivities. He'll cower when the game gets going much like last time we met and Hines was heading his way.
Wow, so much for my unifying tone here for us....I got off track sorry.
Back to my point after the break...
Was going to say this to all y'all Steelers and Ravens fans out there: we all have something in common, something more precious at the moment than you might realize.
What's that?
We both still have football left for our favorite teams.
As I look around the internet and my circle of friends and hear them get into full-on off season gear I can only help but think one thing: I'm not ready for that yet. Period.
And I know you aren't either. But for one of the fan bases, it comes to an end this coming Sunday. That's one to three weeks later than 87.5% of the league's fanbases so hey, we got that going for us. But like all things in life, there must be an end, and that time is rapidly approaching, be it this week or in a few weeks in Tampa.
C'est la vie (Such is life). But what it means, at least to me, is that this week should be fun. Figure out what your favorite routine or place to watch a game is; who you most like to spend a few hours with; what your most steadfast and time proven superstitions are if that's the way you are - whatever it is, make sure all is in order so that you can settle in this Sunday to watch what just as well should be considered both teams and their fan bases' Super Bowls.
I think the Steelers will win, I really do. I think that just as confidently as I thought the Eagles and Ravens would win this past weekend. But of course who knows. None of us 'wants' the team to win more than any of the rest of us do, but hey, if there's someone who can make that claim, I will humbly say that it can be me.
Not at all just for selfish reasons either. I also want it badly for all of y'all who have joined me over the weeks, months and years to fill a part of our busy and complicated lives with something as uncomplicated and inconsequential as football. We all know those truths but we all know the emotions are real and unique when it comes to the Pittsburgh Steelers. We're not ashamed of that either. It'd be badass to watch y'all share a little bit of that joy with each other throughout our country and the world. As always I'd be right there in the middle of it all, amazed at the franchises' ability to bridge divides and bring out a pure and tolerant side of people that so often gets understandably consumed by the intense 'me first' pressures of social and economic survival.
But whatever happens, when Opening Day 2009 finally gets here after a looooong spring and summer, we'll all return enthusiastically to the same place where we left off to end the 2008 season: following the team with whatever Steelers diehards are along for the ride.
So anyway, though I'd care to not share much in common with Baltimore Ravens fans - at least in terms of our places within this arbitrary sphere of football - I am happy to share at least one thing with y'all Dirty Birds denizens: the right to say all week that we still got football left to play in 2008.
Enjoy it while it lasts.
You're dismissed to continue hating on each other tastefully now! I'm stepping away so keep up the pristine record we have as rival fan bases self-policing ourselves and each other and keeping things in bounds as we chirp away at each other. Thanks.
Happy Tuesday to all us still lucky enough to have an anticipation filled work week and a festively ritualistic game day on Sunday still ahead of us.
P.S. Go Steelers! I'm not ready to see y'all lose to the grotty, quarterwit, and most nastily of all, quantang resembling Ravens (surely you don't forget this do you?). I'm just not. Let's keep it going for another three weeks now!
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Thanks Blitz
You’ve got it done this whole season, you deserve some time off!
Does a blogger get vacation time in the offseason??
GO STEELERS!
by sylvansteeler on Jan 13, 2009 8:31 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
One of the few things
both you Steelers fans and us Ravens fans can equally agree on (other than the Steelers winning comment)!
Enjoy your time off before you get your final Beatdown on Sunday. Then you’ll have a long time to sit back, relax and watch the AFC Champions Baltimore Ravens in Tampa!
(sorry, just had to get that in there!)
Rexx
by Rexx on Jan 13, 2009 9:13 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t realize the 2000 AFC championship ravens were going to make the trip down to florida to watch us play. Whose side will they sit on?
by steelguy99 on Jan 13, 2009 9:30 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Hey Raven Fan...Just remember
you’re only in this game because a ref didn’t blow his whistle when your team took 8 minutes to run a play on that final drive. And don’t for one second think that
a) Heinz field is going to be any easier to call plays for Joe Flappo (its going to be LOUD there)
b) picking up big time 3rd downs is not going to be easy in that environment for a rookie. You’re going to need to consistently be in 3rd and short and with the way your run offense and our run defense is playing (see 11 carries for 15 YARDS) that is most likely not going to happen
So sit back enjoy the butt kicking you have coming to you and realize at least you’ll be able to root for an AFC North Champ in the Superbowl!!!!!
by Matt Daddy on Jan 14, 2009 1:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Three gold stars, Blitz, and a purple heart....
AND the good conduct medal.
You’ve not only done a helluva job, but it’s been fun, readable, and right on the money.
Thanks for all the good work.
by Homer J. on Jan 13, 2009 9:52 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I did forget about the whole spitting incident….some good fuel for the fire..
I'll drink your Milkshake, I'll drink it up!
by drinkyourmilkshake on Jan 13, 2009 10:17 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
The Ravens are a good football team and they have my respect.
Off the field, I have no hatred for any of their players and fans.
That said… Go Steelers!
by lightningrod on Jan 13, 2009 11:56 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
The Game
shouldn’t be close….at least not as close as the last 2 games
I know it probably will because our play-calling is probably going to keep it that way on offense but i can see us winning by a good margin, like 10 points.
Joe Flacco is rookie, let’s face it and stop trying to give this guy some kind of credit by playing almost a full season but he hasn’t played a full season, after sunday he will have played a full season because he will be sitting at home getting ready to watch the superbowl at home. He went to Miami and Tennessee on the road and won, the guy was the quarterback of the winning team, that’s it. He did not win those ball games but didn’t lose it. Against the Steelers, in Pittsburgh, in the AFC Championship game, he is probably going to be called on to win that game and is going to fall on his face.
Pittsburgh is a hostile environment to play in, especially with the weather, so it is not going to be like Miami which is virtually not even a home field advantage, and then Tennessee which is not really a hostile environment either. That being said, if the steelers do not turn the ball over like last game against SD, we will be fine. I know we are playing the ravens and so they are probably going to get some turnovers but if we make an effort not to do that, there is almost no way the ravens can beat us.
I am not expecting to run much against them, not many people do, so then need to come out passing as you could see from the Tennessee game that they were very successful at that. Passing on 1st and 2nd down are so much easier to do than passing on 3rd down against a good D. We should come out throwing and get a quick TD and then resort back to the offense we have been running lately but i think it is critical to come out passing so the running game will open up.
I am pretty optimistic about this game like every game but at the same time i still have that nervousness about it like every game because at any particular day, you can have a bad day. There is still that possibility that Big Ben suffers a big blow early and starts throwing picks again or something but I really like his chances on not doing that because he has only thrown 1 interception against this Baltimore defense this year. I really like our chances against this Baltimore defense when we are 100%, understand what we can and cannot do now, and bringing in a rookie QB into our house for all the marbles against the leagues #1 Defense.
by Bleed-Black&Gold on Jan 13, 2009 12:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree
that while it should be close according to history, I wouldn’t be surprised if it is not. That said, i am expecting a Ravens win, of course. Our QB just does not have to win the game like he “hasn’t” done all season. If we had held on to win those two games with you (yes, I know we didn’t), nobody would have said Flacco won those games either. Besides, we Baltimore fans just don’t care how good others think he is. He doesn’t even have to be good, just good enough (which of course, he certainly HAS been this year). Wait a minute….hmmm. didn’t Pittsburgh have rookie QB who made it to the AFC Championship Game a few years ago and the Steeler fans thought he was the second coming? Funny how things change when the shoe is on the other foot!
Rexx
by Rexx on Jan 13, 2009 12:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah,
Remember how that game turned out for Pittsburgh. And, Ben was undefeated until that AFC championship game. Is Flacco?
by PensFan024 on Jan 13, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, and Ben’s YPA was ridiculous that year too. How’s Flacco’s?
charity standing orders
by BadMaafala on Jan 13, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
and ben’s qb rating was pretty ridiculous for a rookie too, something like 98.1? Jesus
What was Flacco’s rating for this season? 80.3 Not Bad but about 18 points lower…
I know that you know that everyone knows that Flacco isn’t going to win this game. But we are going to try to make him lose the game, if that doesn’t work, Then we can just make sure you guys can’t win the game.
That being said, I like our chances against you guys defense. Add in some questionable injuries then I think we can put up 17-24 points if we don’t beat ourselves. Our defense should be able to hold the ravens offense to 3-10 points.
It’s funny how people always want to compare people, such as Flacco’s rookie year compared to Roethlisberger’s rookie year. Sure they are on similar teams, Great Defense, Good at Running the ball but even if you want to say that, even if you want to say he is just as succesful as BR, then that means that he will lose in the AFC Championship game, just as Roethlisberger did. You say it is funny how things change but nothing has changed, I along with alot of other people predicted Bmore would go to the AFC Championship and I had that feeling after we barely got out of Bmore with a win but it is just going to be like BR’s rookie year when even though we had HOF Jerome Bettis and Duce Staley with a great defense, we lost to the New England Patriots so that is exactly what i am predicting. How is it different now that you guys have the rookie QB and we are predicting the same thing to happen?
by Bleed-Black&Gold on Jan 13, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
we’re tired and injured little rat birds…don’t hurt us..we couldn’t possibly beat the monster steelers and their high flying offence. no way. Hall of Famer’s Moore and Parker will run like Barry Sanders all day and Ward will perform like Jerry Rice. There is no way in hell we sniff a victory against the Hogs you have on the O-line or the LT you have on the D-end. oh what to do….
by raven on Jan 13, 2009 5:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Anyone catch this in PG
This should dispense with the “it’s hard to beat a team 3 times” myth.
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09013/941387-66.stm
"Whaddya' mean all the beer is gone..?
by OhioYinzer on Jan 13, 2009 7:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
To my recollection,
There have only been three prior instances where we faced a divisional rival in the playoffs after a sweep occured in the regular season. in 1989, the Houson Oilers swept us but we beat them in the opening round of the playoffs. In 1994 and 2002, we swept Cleveland and beat them in the opening round of the playoffs. The only other two times we faced a divisional foe in the AFCCG was against the Houston Oilers in 1978 and 1979 and we won both those games of course. The only other time we faced the Ravens in the playoffs was in the 2001 divisional round when we won 27-10. Anyway you look at it, history is on our side.
by Jonny B. on Jan 14, 2009 1:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
One more thing.
We are 7-0 all time in the playoffs against divisonal foes.
by Jonny B. on Jan 14, 2009 1:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lots of statistics that mean nothing when it comes to this game
by worldtrip on Jan 14, 2009 9:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Also, Im not so sure 7-0 means nothing.
One can extrapolate what they want from that record, but when you are talking about SEVEN straight wins in the playoffs, there may be some statistical relevance there. We weren’t favored to win all those games and we weren’t the home team in all those games, either.
by Jonny B. on Jan 14, 2009 10:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That is impressive
And not to be discounted historically. This team does well in pressure situations, and especially well against known components.
by Chicago Steeler on Jan 14, 2009 11:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
One more stat that may mean nothing.....
The team that has swept during the regular season has gone on to win in the playoffs 11 out of 18 times or roughly 61% of the time.
by Jonny B. on Jan 14, 2009 12:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's hard to beat a team three times?
Hocus Pocus, indeed.
by Jonny B. on Jan 14, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
nice
thanks for getting that stat. figured itd be like that but never seen it.
usually win you win twice – its because you’re better!
by Blitzburgh on Jan 14, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's what they said on ESPN's "First and Ten", anyways.
Not that I believe everything I hear on TV, but still, like you said, it sounds about right.
by Jonny B. on Jan 14, 2009 11:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Skip n' SAS
According to both Skip Bayless and Stepehen A. Smith, Bawlmore has the psychological edge in the game. Apparently having lost twice before will give them the added incentive to come out super motivated and all that. I am not sure that I buy it. In fact, I think that being over psyched can and will be harmful, in as much as penalties and stupid mistakes based on an adrenaline surge can cost a team in this game. According to their logic Ray Lewis will simply motivate his team to victory, forget strategy, forget execution. The big bad Ravens defense is going to come out and growl, flex, spit and the mighty Steelers will wither. Yeah, right.
"Whaddya' mean all the beer is gone..?
by OhioYinzer on Jan 14, 2009 11:18 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
The steelers stand no chance. The steelers suck. The ravens are awesome.
I hope Tomlin is printing this stuff for the locker room.
by steelguy99 on Jan 14, 2009 11:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In the end, none of that matters. All that matters is that each player plays his best come Sunday. We can only control how we are going to play, and I have to believe Coach T. and Coach LeBeau will have them ready.
by Jonny B. on Jan 14, 2009 12:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like Skip's comments...
“Tomlin can continue to go whistling in the graveyard, if he wants to, but….”
As if we are supposed to be afraid of the big, bad, Ravens. There is no doubt they have our respect, but fear? I don’t think Hines Ward fears no man, I’m pretty sure Coach T. doesn’t either, and as for James Harrison, he is grinding his battle axe as I type.
by Jonny B. on Jan 14, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I've never cared much for Skip
even when I somewhat agree with his absurdities (which is hardly ever) I find his voice and mannerisms annoying. And, having of a modicum of intelligence, it didn’t take me long to figure out that he was on the show simply for the sake of contoversy and stirring things up, not because he had any actual KNOWLEDGE or insight. But besides all of that, I agree with you Jonny B. All that really matters is if the players are ready to play, period. If anyone thinks that our guys think it will be any easier to win based on last time, or their guys think it is their right to win because of last time or whatever, is sadly mistaken. New day, new crowd, new set of circumstances. Based on the FACTS, it looks like we are in good shape to win….but that is why they play the game!!!
"Whaddya' mean all the beer is gone..?
by OhioYinzer on Jan 14, 2009 1:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Psychology/Intimidation etc...
An individual player may be intimidated but not a whole team of professional athletes. Ray Lewis gets the pub because of his antics and the fact that he is a good, physical player. Joey Porter same thing. Real football players loose individual battles because they’re not as talented – not because the other guy talks loud and acts like a hood.
If any team is equipped to deal with the Raven’s physicality and bully tactics – it’s the Steelers. The Steelers players have always been taught to emphasize physical play and have played Baltimore many times and beaten them. Skip Bayless thinks it matters because he can be intimidated, but he’s not playing. If that kind of crap meant anything the Panthers would have beat the Cardinals. Hell, the 1981 49ers would have lost to Dallas that year and every year thereafter. Talk is just talk. No matter what we all say here on this board makes no difference toward the outcome. Why would other player’s comments, rants or gyrations make any difference?
Mental blunders will have a lot more to do with who wins or loses this game than any other issue. Even turnovers are partly dependent upon decision making, not just physical failures.
"Franz" in NoCal
by franz on Jan 14, 2009 4:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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