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Insights From Baltimore Sports Radio-- They're Worried.

Bumped. East Coast phone call for me has me up briefly. Saw this and up it goes and out I go just as quickly. Some good talking points for now. Thanks. - Blitz -

I've taken to listening to Baltimore sports radio to see what the Ravens media and fans think.  I find it gives me a better sense of reality than just listening to the choir to which I already belong

There seems to be an overwhelming feeling on their side that their defense may actually be wearing out from the long season without a break.  They're all complaining that their defense looked really tired through the 2nd half of the Tennessee game.  

I honestly didn't notice it, except for the fact that the Titans were moving the ball pretty well.  So....good news.

Also, they're worried about the fact that McClain, McGahee, and Rice are ALL injured, and there's literally no one else.  One sports guy yesterday suggested putting Jim Leonard in the backfield.  

Finally, they also seem worried about how well the Steelers played this past Sunday.

Don't want to get too confident, but this makes me think at the very worst, we're coming into this game with some serious advantages.

Them being..

Star-divide

1.  They're not talking about how awesome their defense is. That's rare if you're paid to talk up the Ravens.  Doubt is cancer.

2.  If their running game is crippled, it's ALL on Flacco.  Maybe he can rise to it, but even the "unflappable" Big Ben struggled in the big pressure games early in his career.

3.  I couldn't believe when I read the injury report from our Sunday game with the Chargers.  No injuries.  None.  Nada.  Has that ever even happened before?  Is it possible we're the most healthy we've been all year (except for all the people on IR)?

Finally, I was listening to an interview with Terrell Suggs yesterday, who defiantly says he's playing, but speaks with a lot of doubt about it.  But what made me laugh is that the reporter asked him if he had any messages for Ben Roethlisberger (bastard reporter trying to stir things up), to which Suggs responded 

"Absolutely Not."   Smart guy, I thought.

P.S.  Anthony Smith, nice job keeping your big mouth shut all season.  Please keep up the good work.

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discussing the team’s health status with our head lawyer over here. My point: Steelers are hitting this stretch with their aches and pains behind them and the Ravens come into the game limping. It certainly doesn’t guarantee victory, but it helps. While always mindful of the fact that animals are most dangerous when wounded, the Steelers are a “+” in this regard.

by tenthmtnman on Jan 13, 2009 9:59 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Didn't you beat us twice while "limping?"

Regardless of both teams health, it’s always been both teams’ mantra of “next man up.” The injuries will not be an excuse for either team.

Rexx

by Rexx on Jan 14, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The ravens do have it rough. Their “bye” week got moved to week 2 because of a hurricane and they are the wildcard. If they look tired there is definitely a reason – they’ve had a really rough time this season and have had to play almost as hard a schedule as we did.

I’ll be happy if that’s what gives us the edge in the AFC championship of course.

by steelguy99 on Jan 13, 2009 10:01 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I had the feeling going into the first 2 games that they could go either way, and they could have. This week I have the feeling that we have the advantage because we’re well rested (but not flat) and healthy, while the Ravens have been playing tough games every week since week 3. Guys like Woodley and Hampton looked to be wearing down at the end of the season, but they got to sit a week and looked much better against the Chargers.

Being favored doesn’t matter very much, but I like our chances. Maybe we’ll even be able to run a little bit.

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by BadMaafala on Jan 13, 2009 10:04 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Very True

Everyone wears down as the season ends but some teams more than others for various reasons. Our schedule was brutal and lived up to it’s #1 rating unlike some years. The off week was perfectly timed for Ben and the others to recharge and get healthier. Polamalu looked awful but he was reportedly very sick.

Baltimore has played hard against some tough teams lately. They look like they are slowing down on defense while getting a little better in pass offense. If their RBs are dinged up and on defense they have 2 – 3 players slowed, it bodes well for us. I still think it will be a tough game but we have a good chance at taking them. If we keep the turnovers to zero it will be hard for them to beat us. Our defense should be fine and the offense looks pretty good.

Flacco didn’t look particularly thrilled or confident in an interview when asked about a third game with the Steelers. McClain returned after leaving the game with injury but played FB almost exclusively from what I recall. McGahee is alright but doesn’t scare me that much. Without a potent run game they should be pretty limited. We need Harrison, Woodley and Timmons to get some shots on Flacco early. If so, our chances increase exponentially. Need to get his feet moving and his confidence shaken, not stirred !!

"Franz" in NoCal

by franz on Jan 13, 2009 11:15 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought Troy was a little absent in that game

what did he come down with and will he be good to go on sunday?

by Hochuli loves Broccoli on Jan 13, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Strained calf

Which is why he was playing deep most of the game. MT says he’ll be good to go for Sunday, but thats a damn painful strain to play on.

Guns don't kill people. Lamar Woodley kills people.

by BostonWahoo on Jan 13, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You'd be ...

tired too if you had to haul Casey Hampton around the tarmac like he does [:o)].

by tenthmtnman on Jan 13, 2009 10:09 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Flacco's reality check.

The Raven’s should be concerned about this game. Obviously they’ve got injuries they’re dealing with, but I think the main reason to be concerned is their QB. Of course injuries play into this, but assuming his “Best football” can actually beat the steelers, Flacco will need to play his best football to beat the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Do I think he can overcome the adversity and lead his team to a victory at Heinz Field during an AFC Championship game? Hell no. I will enjoy watching the rookie fold. We all know it happens, and I’m a big believer in this. Experience is the key in these types of games. Anyone can put up a fluke win during the regular season, but this is the AFC Championship. Throw out Flacco’s playing ability when deciding who is going to come out on top in this one. The game will not be a Disney movie, this is the AFC Championship, the Steelers and the Ravens, it’s in Pittsburgh, for all the marbles. I will be very surprised to see the rookie come out on top against our number one defense.

When I say who dey, you say we dey.

by sn0wballz on Jan 13, 2009 10:49 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

It’s a lot easier not to make mistakes when you are leading or the game is close, but if we stuff the run and/or jump out to a lead, Flacco WILL have to start taking chances.

by Jonny B. on Jan 13, 2009 10:59 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I don't think ...

the kid has shown any propensity for folding yet. Could he fold? Sure. Will he fold? Chances are probably 50% or better that he won’t fold. The Steelers D may make him appear ineffective, but the kid has fight in him and he won’t fold. As you say, this is for half the chips left on the table.

by tenthmtnman on Jan 13, 2009 11:16 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

agree

He might not fold in this game but i can’t see him rising to the occasion either. He’s been sub 50% passing for the post-season and hasn’t played a pressure defense like Pittsburgh which forces even more throws. Titans are a good straight up D, but it’s different then having the OLBs of the Steelers breathing down you neck. My guess on a Flacco statline this game:

127 yards passing, 14 Yards Rushing, 48% completions, 3 sacks, 1 INT, 1 fumble.

by Chicago Steeler on Jan 13, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Flacco hasn't been asked to win a game in the postseason

And he can’t do it. Even in the regular season against a tough team, the Ravens will win with their D and their running game. Flacco hasn’t shown that he’s anywhere near Big Ben status yet.

by sylvansteeler on Jan 13, 2009 11:58 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like Steeler fans

before WWII aka game in Bmore

by 703Steeler on Jan 13, 2009 11:27 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

The Steelers seemed healthy after the Chargers' game....

…while at least three members of the Ravens’ defensive unit had to be helped off the field. The Ravens are beaten up. They are tired.

But the Ravens are warriors. Those with a pulse will play, and will play with all they have. Only those who have been officially pronounced dead will willingly sit out on Sunday.

by Homer J. on Jan 13, 2009 11:37 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Jason Brown on Sirius Blitz

Claimed a Steeler tried to elbow him the nads – wouldn’t give a name of course. Then claimed upon calling out Steeler out, that the Steeler said he would spit in his face. He then said the Steeler backed down. Interesting…

The host of course went on about the Ravens getting “jobbed” or “hosed” in the last game in Bmore. Unreal, so sick of hearing about that crap.

by 703Steeler on Jan 13, 2009 11:43 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Fatigue/Flacco

As a Ravens fan, I did think our D looked tired in the second half Saturday. They could not get off the field on third down. Granted, they were on 6 days rest (we’ve got 8 days rest this week) but it is a fact. They just looked a little slow. Not making excuses, but just something to think about…worries me a little bit. I can admit that.

Flacco hasn’t shown any signs of backing down under pressure. The dude makes fantastic throws when necessary (TD to Mason). He was asked to win the game the other day. With 4 minutes left in a tie game, we needed to score or else the Titans would have gone right down the field and scored. Our D was tired and I feel they could have marched down the field and gotten into field goal range (maybe they would have fumbled first though, haha). My point is, this guy can play. It’s going to be a big challenge, but a lot of you steeler fans will be surprised Sunday!

by ReedPickSix on Jan 13, 2009 12:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

If your D didn’t look tired to you, then you guys are in big trouble if that’s how they look rested.

by steelguy99 on Jan 13, 2009 1:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

“As a Ravens fan, I did think our D looked tired in the second half Saturday.”

Try reading that again….

by ReedPickSix on Jan 13, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I tried, and I even used my eyes this time. The results were different.

by steelguy99 on Jan 13, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

lol

As a ravens fan I appreciate you, steelguy. Very level headed, you both sides of the coin… not a complete and total moron homer.

Kevbo: [to George Sherrill] George, you look a lot like Vin Diesel...

Flatbill: Let's get somethin' straight... Vin Diesel looks like me.

-From "The Making of Orioles Magic"

by dayzd toe on Jan 14, 2009 10:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Again with this stupid statment. You lost to them the first time and beat them the second. We lost to them the first time and did not have an opportunity to play them a second time. That line of reasoning is poor.

I'll drink your Milkshake, I'll drink it up!

by drinkyourmilkshake on Jan 14, 2009 1:46 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

plus they gave you guys the game

Between the refs and the stupid TO’s in the redzone they pretty much handed it to you on a plate.

by Mechem on Jan 15, 2009 11:00 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’ll agree that Flacco hasn’t shown signs of backing down under pressure, but only because he hasn’t been under ANY pressure in the two games they’ve played so far. He has yet to be behind in a game after the first quarter or sacked, and the Ravens have handed off on a large number of 3rd and longs. I’ll give credit to Flacco for not turning the ball over, but he’s been asked to do very little this year, and even less so far in the playoffs. Oh, and he was awful in the Miami game and lucky in the Tennessee game. A few of those longer passes were prayers. I’d rather have Shaun Hill.

charity standing orders

by BadMaafala on Jan 13, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Flak Attack

I think Flacco is a really good young QB who is playing smart. That said, Pittsburgh should not lose to him. The Steelers need to shut down the run without giving up more than a few big plays in the passing game – in other words no TD passes longer than 25 yards.

If Bmore drives the ball and scores a few times that is fine. No cheap TDs and no big turnovers by the offense should lead to victory.

"Franz" in NoCal

by franz on Jan 13, 2009 2:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Big plays

We have been stingy with big plays all year. But we doubled our season total of big plays allowed against the Chargers. If anybody looks tired on the Steelers defense, it’s Ryan Clark. Luckily, we have an excellent backup starter. Unluckily, everybody still criticizes that backup for saying, “If we play well, we can beat the Patriots.”

If Anthony Smith would have been two yards away from the ball on that first long bomb, he would have been criticized. (Like Northcutt’s touchdown in the regular season game.) Ryan Clark was ten yards away, so there are no complaints.

by buddytoledo on Jan 14, 2009 7:00 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They better figure something out because flacco loves to sling it deep, and his receivers love to lay out for the deep ball. A return to how we normally play would be sufficient, but if that’s not possible…

by steelguy99 on Jan 14, 2009 9:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Single safety

Troy was manned on Gates and Clark was on the other side. He must have read the play to that side or didn’t have deep responsibility over there. It looked like Ike expected to be one-on-one with him. and to give Ike his due, he was step for step, if that’s not a perfectly thrown ball it’s not a catch (but probably an interference)

by Chicago Steeler on Jan 14, 2009 11:55 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t know that Ike was expecting to be one-on-one. It looked to be like he was expecting help on the other side.

by steelguy99 on Jan 14, 2009 12:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

TP

Read he has a strained calf and that is probably why he was ineffective last weekend. Hopefully all will be well for this weekend.

by HoustonPA on Jan 13, 2009 2:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Also was sick

They said he had some bad intestinal thing

by Mechem on Jan 13, 2009 2:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

As t things look, I think that...

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 Finally as Kara Herderson recall in NFL´s Totall Access: …“the OL took confidence of training against their top D” … (That happend with 1, yes ONE week of work, WT hell in t world was BA thinking, but at least it delivers in t PS). But I suppose or it happends that t X factor right now is just that the OL confidence, and coincidentally it looks for most of US that at least by this time the part that “apparently” wons t game feel like was a little bit more t O side of t ball, so in that line of thinking, it will give a boost for their cappacity of take care of the business, at least an inch more, & help to balance the load a little bit, that today is the most important thing, take a little of weight of t D to let them be even more aggresive than they up to date have been, it will help us put in more plays Debo with Woodley & Timmons also I would like to see more of DIXON, even as a RB in options or as a WR, I got t feelling He could be in some next time at t very least a + in t O & ST.

O sales tickets,...and let D rest a little, and D Win Championships.

by YeOldeMexFan on Jan 13, 2009 2:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Rest And rookies

Baltimore is going for what the 18th game in a row?

I truly think our offense CAN move the ball on this team. I’d bet the over personally. 34 points can be had between these two. That defense has allowed big drives and the only reason they escaped last week was cause nobody in Ten’Teeth land can hold onto the ball.

Flacco does the typical rookie in the championship game meltdown. We saw it with ben in 04. And he was under 50% in this last game and didnt look amazing. Were it not for his receiver bumbling into the EZ they dont even have a TD on flacco’s numbers.

by Mechem on Jan 13, 2009 2:56 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

yeah, 18 games in a row???

I still don’t understand how the NFL plans to go to an 18 game season, teams will need a larger roster than just 53 men; those injuries are gonna pile up even more than they already do.

by SteelersVT on Jan 13, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Solution

I love the idea of the 18 game reg season. But you need to normalize the bye’s. Firstly, I think EVERY teams bye should be on the same week, week 9. There is no reason to have these stupid split up byes.

So now, worst case scenario nobody plays more than 13 games straight. Thats pretty nice. And if you earn that second bye you’re in even better shape.

As far as injuries. You should then be able to have a 1/2 season injured reserve. If you put a guy on it hes out for 9 weeks. Usable at any time during the year.

by Mechem on Jan 13, 2009 4:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm...

I like that 9 week IR idea.

by Varmint on Jan 13, 2009 5:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Can't happen like that

The NFL would never allow an entire weekend to go by without televised football. But your concept is a good one. I would give 10 teams off in week 8, 12 teams off in week 9 and 10 teams off in week 10. This would give everyone a bye roughly around the equator without losing media dollars.

Thoughtful discussion with a sense of history

by maryrose on Jan 13, 2009 6:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with both of you

early byes screw teams over. Putting them more in the middle would be ideal.

The ravens really got screwed with that hurricane. Hopefully the Steelers will benefit from that. I think they will.

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Jan 13, 2009 9:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

anything can happen

though the steelers are the better team right now-
they are healthier and have had more rest
they are coming off a better game
they have greater playoff experience
the defense is playing better
and it’s a home game
as for flacco, he’s been pretty poor against the steelers in both games

by vherub on Jan 13, 2009 3:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

holy crap

its only tuesday and i’m nervous as as a freshman asking for a date. i waver from absolute confidence and assurance to complete doubt and anxiety! what the heck is wrong with me? i wish today was sunday…

...die trying
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by agentorange on Jan 13, 2009 3:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

me too,me too

I'll drink your Milkshake, I'll drink it up!

by drinkyourmilkshake on Jan 13, 2009 3:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

same here

this is going to be the longest week ever!

I’m also going back and forth on the confidence meter – a lot of ‘if we do this" and “if we do that” and “they are tired” and “they are beat up”. I’d rather be the under-dog in this game.

But we have a very veteran team – geeze i’m doing it in this post!

I need a drink

by 703Steeler on Jan 13, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Memories

I just keep remembering a game against San Diego that we were heavily favored to win, dominated in every single statistical category and lost because of 3 plays. 2 long passes and a punt/kickoff return….

by BlkNGold on Jan 14, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ugh - thanks

now I need another drink ;)

by 703Steeler on Jan 14, 2009 10:13 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

I think the fans are more nervous than the players for this one.

For the fans of both teams, Sunday night is going to be amazing, or infuriating.

by ReedPickSix on Jan 13, 2009 3:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

whats funny for me

is that I was actually rooting for the Ravens, only the second time in history I’ve done that (last year against the Pats was the first). But several times, when reading about the Ravens-Titans game, I’ll think “Oh man, if only Tenn would have done this or that,” and then realize, hey I wanted the Ravens to win. It just goes against my grain.

I too go from nervous to confident to nervous again. I can tell you this though, no doubt in my mind whomever wins this will beat the NFC. I know the Eagles demoralized us early in the year, but no way that happens again. AFC North ftw!

by steelerark on Jan 13, 2009 3:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Harrison cracked me up....

Never the outspoken interviewee, when the network had a Jets player (can’t remember who it was) interview Harrison after the game and asked him who the ‘tougher defense’ is between Baltimore and us, he snapped his head up and gave the look of death to him.

and of course calmly said that the Steelers defense is tougher.

by BoiseSteeler on Jan 13, 2009 3:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yeah that was great - it was Ty Law

who has a spot reserved in lower levels of Steeler Hell, IMO anyway.

by 703Steeler on Jan 13, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I just don't like the fact they they know us well

Let me also remind you that it was a “tired and depleated defense” that booted Dallas (which beat the Giants twice during the regular season) out of the playoffs last year. They ran the table tired and depleated. Hey, don’t sweat it though. It is what it is. This is playoff time. To be the man you gotta beat the man. And we going allllllllllll the way to space mountain baby!!!! WWooooooooooo!! Sorry had a flash back.

"The team that scores the most points wins."
John Madden
(Master of the obvious)

by PixburghArn on Jan 13, 2009 4:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

we might be better off with a beat up backfield…we won’t rely on it thus making Joe pass down field-which he is good at. we didn’t utilize the pass enough againtst you before. this makes us. joe will make up for the lost 100 running yards with 6-7 more completions. are you better against the pass or run? i say run. so we attck your secondary. injured rbs not too upsetting to me.

by raven on Jan 13, 2009 4:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Actually

We had the number one passing defense and number rushing defense in the regular season.

"The team that scores the most points wins."
John Madden
(Master of the obvious)

by PixburghArn on Jan 13, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously though?

Willis Questionable McGayheehaw does not amount to anything against us. McClain is your only hope.

Flacco threw under 50 percent so those 6-7 more completions you want are coming at the cost of 18 passes. Which likely means another sack or two. Which probably means another fumble/INT.

by Mechem on Jan 13, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

true…damn it…McClaine was the only one to get through your line for more than 3 yards.

by raven on Jan 13, 2009 4:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It takes a big RB

Basically its a given nobody is gonna get more than 3 YPC but if you are huge you stand a chance between falling forward and all.

So far we have yet to see a smaller more shifty type RB do much of anything against us. Jamal Lewis had a solid day against our semi 2nd team. McClain as mentioned.

But Sproles was exposed to the tune of 11 for 15.

by Mechem on Jan 13, 2009 4:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sproles vs. McClain?

Are you kidding me? McClain ran for 80+ against the Steelers in December. Calling us lucky in some of the above posts is ridiculous, as luck plays a part in every game. Think we care if we’re lucky? I’ll take lucky and win over playing well and losing any day. Good teams make luck. That is part of the reason that you always find a way to make the key plays to win and especially beat us. Good vs. luck is very subjective to define. As far as the running back comparison, are you seriously comparing your ability to stop tthe 150 pound Darren sproles with the 260# Le’Ron McClain!?

Rexx

by Rexx on Jan 14, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My point was big RBs

Big RBs are the only ones that stand even a remote chance of putting up yards against us, and still their numbers are not great.

Not sure why you sound argue-y because I basically said your RB gives you the best shot.

But if hes hurt and not playing well, uhoh

by Mechem on Jan 15, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

How’s your slant game?

I doubt you’re going to win with the long ball. Flacco has the arm for distance, but he doesn’t yet have all the pieces to be dominant with big vert plays. He may get lucky. He’s got a punchers chance. But he doesn’t yet have the necessary consistency for the team to depend on his big arm.

Furthermore, in order to make those throws, he’ll need time. Hampton, Smith, and Kiesel are all healthy and able to occupy an O-line. Harrison and Woodley will apply pressure from the sides. Getting the time to throw those long balls will be about as easy as getting a sub-prime loan.

Then we’ve got Farrior, Foote, and Timmons (as needed) to cover the checkdowns. So, if your offensive coordinator does call those long-ball plays he’ll be doing it with a shaky safety net. The risk-reward percentages are pretty low with that sort of play unless you’ve got a solid gimmick play or you manage to set something up with lots of running.

I expect your OC will find a better path to victory than just assuming the hail mary will be full of grace. Screens, slants, and other short passing plays are not a bad way to play the Steelers. Either you get the ball into a receivers hands before the middle LBs can react, or you draw them away with the threat of a deep ball and dump the ball out of the pocket to an RB poking out at the last second. You’ll need to complete a whole lot of them. And you’ll need to run the ball successfully in order to open up the field a bit. But if Flacco is really good at them (like “Brady to Welker” good), you’ve got a shot.

by Varmint on Jan 13, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Number 2 rushing that is

"The team that scores the most points wins."
John Madden
(Master of the obvious)

by PixburghArn on Jan 13, 2009 4:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

not much more to say…it will come down to 2 4th quarter 3rd and longs. Who makes them wins.

by raven on Jan 13, 2009 4:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

My thoughts on Flacco

With all respect to my Steeler brothers, I don’t think you can in any way take away from what Flacco has done this during the season and in the playoffs.

Non-delay of game call and fantastic Todd Heap catch aside, that throw he made to Heap on that play with the Tennessee game on the line, confirmed everything I already thought about this guy. He’s going to give the Steelers trouble in the future. Maybe not this Sunday, but definitely in the years to come.

I also want to expand on a Flacco/Roethlisbeger comparison I hinted at in the original post. Flacco’s teammates are talking a lot about “the look in his eye.” That in the huddle he’s very calm, and the same in pressure situations as in garbage time. That sounds A LOT like how Ben’s teammates talked about him his rookie year.

Obviously Flacco has a lot to prove to be in the same category as Ben, namely a big fat ring. But in the meantime, I’m willing to concede that this kid’s one of the better rookie QBs to play.

by moonjockey on Jan 13, 2009 5:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I said something similar in another thread...

Flacco’s going to be a great career quarterback for Balt. I’m glad they have their own Roethlisburger.

by SteelersVT on Jan 13, 2009 10:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Same here

Now if the Browns could just get their own franchise QB we would have 4 QBs to hate (along with Flacco, Palmer, and Tom Brady).

by JHolmes on Jan 14, 2009 11:05 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Flacco's playoff performance

I have assembled some stats from Baltimore’s last two games. Isolating on third-down performance, which is critical for a team and especially a quarterback, here are all third downs from the Miami game:

3rd & 1 at Mia37 Joe Flacco up the Middle to Mia35 for 2 yards
3rd & 5 at Mia5 Joe Flacco Pass Incomplete to Todd Heap
3rd & 10 at Bal36 Joe Flacco Pass to Derrick Mason to Bal47 for 11 yards
3rd & 9 at Bal48 Joe Flacco Pass Incomplete to Mark Clayton
3rd & 4 at Mia39 Troy Smith up the Middle to Mia37 for 2 yards
3rd & 6 at Mia13 Joe Flacco Pass Incomplete to Derrick Mason
3rd & 7 at Mia36 Joe Flacco Pass Incomplete to Mark Clayton
3rd & 5 at Mia14 Joe Flacco Pass to Mark Clayton to Mia8 for 6 yards
3rd & 5 at Bal25 Willis McGahee Off Left Guard to Bal28 for 3 yards
3rd & 6 at Bal24 Joe Flacco Pass Incomplete to Mark Clayton
3rd & 1 at Bal38 Joe Flacco Pass to Lorenzo Neal to Bal46 for 8 yards
3rd & 5 at Mia5 Joe Flacco up the Middle for 5 yards for a TOUCHDOWN

Overall, against a mediocre defense, the Ravens are 5 for 12 on third down, only 3 for 10 before the final, garbage-time drive. For the game, Flacco is 3 of 8 for only 27 yards on third down. But of course, no picks, no sacks for Mr. Mistake-Free.

Here is the Titans playoff game:

3rd & 8 at Bal22 Willis McGahee up the Middle to Bal25 for 3 yards
3rd & 14 at Bal16 Willis McGahee up the Middle to Bal20 for 4 yards
3rd & 1 at Bal29 Joe Flacco up the Middle to Bal32 for 3 yards
3rd & 13 at Ten48 Joe Flacco Pass to Derrick Mason for 48 yards for a TOUCHDOWN
3rd & 7 at Ten42 Joe Flacco Pass Incomplete to Yamon Figurs
3rd & 10 at Bal12 Joe Flacco Pass Incomplete to Derrick Mason
3rd & 11 at Bal20 Joe Flacco Pass Incomplete to Todd Heap
3rd & 11 at Bal40 Joe Flacco Pass to Daniel Wilcox to Bal44 for 4 yards
3rd & 5 at Ten45 Joe Flacco Pass Incomplete to Derrick Mason
3rd & 7 at Ten7 Joe Flacco Pass to Willis McGahee to Ten3 for 4 yards
3rd & 10 at Bal1 Joe Flacco Pass Incomplete to Mark Clayton
3rd & 2 at Bal32 Joe Flacco Pass to Todd Heap to Ten45 for 23 yards
3rd & 9 at Ten33 Joe Flacco Pass to Mark Clayton to Ten25 for 8 yards

Against a stout Titans defense, the Ravens are just 3 for 13 on third down. Flacco completes 5 of 10 passes but only gains 2 first downs passing. Both conversions were huge, however: the 48-yard TD to Mason and the 23-yarder to Heap on the winning drive.

Combining the two games, on third-down Flacco is 8 of 18 passing, gaining 5 first downs and 114 yards. No picks, no sacks, and one TD. For comparison, I did Ben’s third down stats combining two games: last Sunday vs. Chargers and Week 15 at Ravens. In those two playoff-like games, on third-down Ben is 15 of 20 passing, gaining 11 first downs out of 24 chances and 150 yards. No picks and one TD. Oh, right, also four sacks (oops). But other than giving up a bit of field position, a sack on third down is no different from an incompletion.

In summary, Ben completes an incredible 75% of third-down passes versus 44% for Flacco. Ben converts 46% of third downs passing versus 28% for Flacco, even counting the four sacks against Ben. No picks, one TD, yards per attempt are similar for both. There is no doubt that Flacco is far ahead of most rookie QBs ever, but he has not shown that he can consistently complete passes and sustain drives in pressure situations. Ben has and does.

by Steelin on Jan 13, 2009 5:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

very well put

the more I think about this game, the less I’m worried.

by TheCincinnatiConqueror on Jan 13, 2009 9:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

wow. thanks for that. Great stats. I forgot to mention in my love fest for Flacco that I would like to see him eating dirt this sunday.

by moonjockey on Jan 13, 2009 6:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Pass vs Run

McClain is actually the key to the game. If they play 10 times, Baltimore wins 3 if McClain has a great day. Flacco is doing well but that’s relative. Take away a hobbled McClain and then LeBeau can start squeezing the young man.

Mason is the big play guy, then Clayton. Interestingly, Heap does not seem to be his first choice, but then he was hurt for awhile. Normally, a rookie QB is throwing the hots if he can find them and short routes to the backs and TE more than the wideouts. One achilles heel for the Ravens is their backs in the passing game – none of the top 3 backs is really a good receiver out of the backfield. Compare that with Moore who has shown he can do it all, even Davis gets a few looks.

"Franz" in NoCal

by franz on Jan 13, 2009 6:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

ratbirds

This game reminds me of the 76 playoff game when the Steelers went out to oakland after beating the colts in the first round.Unfortunately they were w/o Franco,Rocky,Stallworth,and Swanny was quickly reduced to a clueless amnesiac by George the criminal Atkins,while many historians claim that this Steeler team was the best of the era(i was only 10) the rash of late season injuries always show up in the playoffs.While I expect Baltimore to play on adrenaline against their biggest rival,I would not be shocked if the Men of Steel put a serious asswhippin on the birds.If the Steelers get out to an early lead,they may run away from the terds.

by wmd3 on Jan 13, 2009 11:22 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I was only seven in 1976.

But you don’t have to be a historian to know that was our best defensive unit. The Chief, himself, said so. That’s good enough for this Steeler fan. Of course, if he were around for this bunch, he may have to reconsider. History is writing itself before our eyes. One for the other thumb. Belileve it.

by Jonny B. on Jan 14, 2009 12:15 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

mark 9:24

i believe! help my unbelief!

...die trying
http://www.agentorangerecords.blogspot.com

by agentorange on Jan 14, 2009 2:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Amen,

My Steeler brother.

by Jonny B. on Jan 14, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Radio Personalities

Does anyone have a link to good Steeler Talk Radio that broadcasts on the interwebs?

Kevbo: [to George Sherrill] George, you look a lot like Vin Diesel...

Flatbill: Let's get somethin' straight... Vin Diesel looks like me.

-From "The Making of Orioles Magic"

by dayzd toe on Jan 14, 2009 11:01 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

go to podcasts

under some of the shows on the espn radio pit one and theres 80 minutes or so of steelers talk from the 12th that has a bunch of interviews from pitt players and talk as well. if thats what ure looking for

by Blitzburgh on Jan 14, 2009 11:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

google

espn radio pittsburgh

fox sports radio pittsburgh

by Blitzburgh on Jan 14, 2009 11:37 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

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