A Look At Kurt Warner's Performances Outside of Phoenix
Let's take a look at some of Kurt Warner's 2008 performances away from the comfy confines of University of Phoenix Stadium in Arizona. Now of course, a game played in Tampa isn't exactly the same as a game along the Eastern Seaboard up North. And of course jet lag or anything like that is not an issue given the extra week for travel and preparation both teams are given between the conference championship games and the Super Bowl. Nevertheless, it's going to be a heavily Steelers flavored crowd and more importantly, it's simply going to be an environment Kurt Warner is not used to. 
Cardinals 2008 Road Performance (3-5):
Points For/Points Against: 185/248
Kurt Warner's TD/INT Ratio: 13/9
Kurt Warner's 100+ QB Rating Road Games: 1game
Kurt Warner's 100+ QB Rating Home Games: 5 games
Kurt Warner's Fumbles: 6
Games w/ Completion % Under 60 : 0 home/3 away
Road Wins Outside of Division: 0
This is but a small sampling of numbers that begins to tell the story about just how dynamic and excellent Kurt Warner and his Cardinals offense is at home compared to when they must travel. Only 3 road wins - none of them quality (SF, STL, SEA), 9 of Warner's 14 INTs for the year, more than half of his fumbles, and all three of his sub-standard games accuracy wise.
Anybody really see him torching this Steelers defense this coming Sunday? I, for one, do not, though I don't think he necessarily has to have one of his epic 300+ yard, 70+% evenings to win. No, our offense is still going to have to do their fair share of the leg work for the Steelers to emerge victorious, but I think the defense will give them every opportunity in the world to deliver a knockout blow sometime in the second half.
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Not gonna torch
He might get over 250 if we blowout early and he gets garbage time throws.
I think they get one big play, and thats it. I really DONT see him slicing and dicing our defense and so far every “hot” QB that comes to play us has been stone-walled. See examples such as Matt Cassel Donovan McNabb Ignatius Rivers and Joe Flaccox3
by Mechem on Jan 26, 2009 3:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He said “hot” QBs. Kerry was definitely not “hot” coming into our game.
I do agree with what you are saying though – this D is not invincible.
by steelguy99 on Jan 26, 2009 4:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
From reading that you’d think that Collins (and his RBs) didn’t tear apart our offense. And you’d be wrong.
by steelguy99 on Jan 26, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
don't get me wrong
Wasn’t meaning he wasn’t successful, was just pointing out that arguably the most successful qb against the Steelers this year was Collins and he only had 205 – was referring to the original question of over\under 250.
But does Warner have the Running game or Line that Collins did? Will our D be as tired as it was that day? Does it matter?
I would say Warner is better than Collins. But like the poster said, lots of QB’s were playing ‘hot’ before they played the Steelers, only one (in my opinion – Collins) continued that against the Steelers. And he got a LOT of help from Big Ben. Hell the great Peyton only had 228 and 70 of that was on a pass Ike had his hands on.
This is gonna be one hell of a match up.
by 703Steeler on Jan 26, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thats what I'm sayin
Yeah to me nobody has really raped our passing defense.
I got into an argument with my boneheaded friend. He claims Ignatius Rivers “Torched” us in the playoff game. And i’m like dude he didnt do squat until the 4th quarter when we went prevent.
So I believe Rivers does have the highest yardage against us, but yet it was garbage time.
by Mechem on Jan 27, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why Collins Was Successful
Collins had a 100+ QB rating, he had a good game. Why? Because he attempted 29 passes and the D only sacked him once. Caption Obvious statistic of the day- Warner is sacked about twice as often in losses as he is in wins. BUT, (big but,) he is a 100+ rated passer against the blitz. No matter where this game is played, my key to stopping the Warner/Fitz/OMGCARDINALS offense is how much pressure the Steelers can bring with 4/5 rushers.
by The IC Lion on Jan 26, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fortunately the titans line is much better than the cardinals – Collins was the least sacked QB this year. He was sacked basically 1/6th the time that Ben was.
by steelguy99 on Jan 26, 2009 4:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Cardinals are more middle of the pack in pass protection. But they’ve only given up 3 sacks in 3 games so far in the playoffs, and Ben knows first-hand that the Philly pash rush is no slouch. So how good is the Cardinals line? Is it jelling at the right time? I’ll tell you in a week!
by The IC Lion on Jan 26, 2009 4:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the steelers sack 3.5 a game
3 sacks for the cardinals (1 a game). Our defense has sacked 7 times in 2 games (3.5 a game). Something has to give, and it’s usually the offense our defense is playing against.
The cardinals have the ability to avoid the blitzing pass rush, and Warner is also very good at throwing the ball away. If it isn’t there he’ll chuck it. We didn’t get many sacks on QBs that chose to release the ball in 3-steps or guys that throw it away, but the pressure was there in spirit by forcing the opponent to rely on 3-step drops.
The steelers can pressure Warner without committing too much to the rush. At least, I hope they can, otherwise our defense is going to have a very difficult time. If rushing 4 forces Warner to 3-step drops the steelers will be playing their game. Warner will get caught on a short pass more than once as the OLB he thought was coming drops into coverage, even if they are able to dink and dunk a bit. If the cardinals want to throw deeper and we are getting pressure they are also in trouble. Our coverage may not be the best in the NFL, but they are good enough to handle their guys while the front does its thing.
Our D-line will win the battle, our OLBs will win the war. Count on it.
by steelguy99 on Jan 26, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you guarantee the D-line winning the battle. . .
. . .I’ll guarantee the Steelers winning the war!
by The IC Lion on Jan 26, 2009 5:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I've been saying it all year
The teams that have beaten us this season had a front line that could get after Warner without help. The only difference I see coming into play now is the emergence of a run game.
by badmatty53 on Jan 26, 2009 5:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you can run on the steelers you deserve to win.
by steelguy99 on Jan 26, 2009 9:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I won't gaurantee it....
but Anthony Smith will!
by acrollet on Jan 27, 2009 7:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I voted yes
Hasselbeck threw for 270 in XL
But more importantly, Warner is a good qb, and he has played very well in the postseason over his career. His two superbowl appearances were 400+ and 350+ yards performances. His passer rating is close to 100 and his td:int ratio roughly 2:1. He has won the mvp multiple times and has a good chance of making the hof. He has three wideouts with over 1000 yards each, one of whom is getting all the attention but Boldin would be a #1 on any other team.
I would like his stat line to be 40% completion percentage and 3 ints- in the first half. Along with a couple forced fumbles.
I don’t think he will get much more than 250 yards, though.
by vherub on Jan 26, 2009 3:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i voted yes
…but he’s not going to get much over 250. under 300 for sure.
and i think the bulk of the yardage will come in the 1st and 4th quarters. 1st b/c we’ll need to settle down, 4th b/c we will have relaxed just a bit…but mostly 1st quarter
"From here on out, the Steelers are bird exterminators. It doesn't matter if it's the Ravens, Eagles, or Cardinals." ~random Steeler Fan!
by amandakt on Jan 26, 2009 4:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I say he does go over 300
They will barely have a running game, they’ll have no choice BUT to pass. I think he gets around 310 yds, but the running game will have around 50. I still say we win the game tho… can’t help but think that harrison will have a monster game.
by steelersfan86 on Jan 26, 2009 6:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like the post
All of your stats are true and before playoffs were a serious concern for me. We killed killed it in Carolina largely in part to the lack of mistakes made by Warner.
I think when you separate the good from the great you will see that the great have the ability to turn that switch inside and become something beyond their normal capacity when they need to. I think Warner is one of the greats and he has managed to do that this post season.
Anyone who has played any sport at any competitive level knows what it feels like when you are in “The Zone” and what it’s like to be on a team that is feeling that on a collective level. It’s my thought that the reason we are here playing you in the the big game is because this Cardinals team is linked with that kind of trust in one another and real solid cohesion.
The main key to beating the Cards this Sunday is to take that away, disrupt that cohesion and if you can rattle the team, Warner’s confidence in them will fade and so will his abilities to put us in a situation to win.
by badmatty53 on Jan 26, 2009 4:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Good stuff. . .
I do think that the Steelers are more the model of consistency in this game, where as you said, the Cards are a team hitting on all cylinders at the right time (ala 05 Steelers, 07 Giants). Its almost as if the bye week may hurt the Cards rhythm. Both teams are really hyping the “band of brothers” stuff. . . who’ll unravel first?
by The IC Lion on Jan 26, 2009 4:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The team that has their fire alarm pulled most often in the middle of the night?
Where are the cards staying again?
by steelguy99 on Jan 26, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That thought has woke me up a couple of times this week.
I can only hope that the ideal of being in the Superbowl is the catalyst to keeping the momentum going.
If management doesn’t drop a turd in the off season and keeps this core group together, I think they can become a team with the same consistant winning mentality that your team is known for.
by badmatty53 on Jan 26, 2009 5:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bye week
I agree this is a bad thing for the Cards right now. Heading into the Championship week, it would be hard to argue that they weren’t the hottest team in the playoffs. We’ll have to see if they can hold up their momentum after the layover.
by AJ BirdWatcher on Jan 27, 2009 8:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
just realized that
Steelers gave up fewer points on the year than the Cards did in their 8 road games!!!!!!!!
by Blitzburgh on Jan 26, 2009 5:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Warner
What has made warner successfull in this playoff run for the Cards is the fact that they’ve had resurgent running game. Does anybody really expect hightower/james to be in the least bit effective against our D? I really doubt it. This will force warner to pass more often than he does (thats saying a lot), similar as to what happened vs. the Ravens in the AFC champ. game. We practically challenged them to run the ball effectively. Now i know it might sound i just compared flacco to warner, im not… trust me! but the game plan might not be too diferent.
by steelersfan86 on Jan 26, 2009 6:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Can I change my vote?
I voted no but I want to say yes. RJ Stadium is almost as “comfy” as Phoenix so I think Warner will go over 250, but not that much (maybe 277.34). Don’t forget, those big SBs that Warner had were almost a decade ago. His dismal days with the Giants are much closer in time than those SBs of years past. Ben was in high school for one of them.
by CarlWeathersMustache on Jan 26, 2009 6:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Guess-timation(not prediction!)
This game won’t be easy- SuperBowls never are. IMHO the first quarter will determine the rest of the game, with the first 5 minutes of Cards offense the most telling. I think Warner and Fitz will have some early success. They might even score fast. Their first couple of series could even go extremely well for them.
However- the thing I think will happen is this:
1. The Cards come out highly emotional
2. Their offense clicks on all cylinders early
3. They move the ball easily, scoring on one, maybe two first drives
4. The Cards build confidence, their sideline looks loose, laughing
5. Their defense holds on the first 2-3 Steelers drives, big emotional high
By the end of the first quarter it will look as if the Cardinals will dominate the Steelers. The AZ players will be highly emotional, talking high smack to Steelers players. They will be quickly convinced that the media is right and their offense is unstoppable. Riding an extreme emotional high, the Cardinals will enter the second quarter certain of the upset victory.
BUT-
That same emotional high that gave Arizona the first few big blows in the game will begin to wear off, sapping the strength of AZ’s spirit. A young, inexperienced AZ team, unfamiliar with playoff and SB intensity, will stutter late in the first half. After the Steelers defense lays hard into their WRs and RBs in the 2d quarter, the Cards start missing catches, their OL starts missing blocks. Pittsburgh defense begins sniffing out run plays and getting heavy pressure on Warner.
By the time Warner finally gets sacked for the first time in the early 2d qtr, he will have been nearly beheaded 3-4 times. The first sack will be a big one, probably on a 3d and long, pushing AZ out of FG range. A bad punt will give the Steelers offense decent field position, and Ben leads a long, physical drive 80+ yards for a TD. After the KO, our D sacks Warner hard on the following 1st down, forces a 3-and-out, and our offense drives for a FG late in the 2d, just before halftime.
After an extra-long halftime show, the Steelers, naturally a second-half team anyway, come out with all the right adjustments on both offense and defense. Despite their fast start and a 14-10 lead, momentum slowly but steadily shifts AWAY from an emotionally-drained and frustrated AZ offense and towards a Steelers defense that has figured out the protections and timing of pass-plays and is beginning to read Warner’s eyes like a second-grade storybook. A Townsend INT and long return sets up a Steelers TD early in the 3d qtr. and Pittsburgh executes a long, long drive after a Cards 3-and-out. That long drive culminates in another short TD pass to a suddenly-reinvigorated Hines Ward(his 3rd of the day) and seasls the fate of the now-exhausted Cardinals team.
With the score at 24-14, Pittsburgh and AZ trade 3-n-outs a couple times before a James Harrison sack forces a Warner fumble, scooped up and returned for a TD by Ryan Clark. One more scoreless drive from AZ and PIT holds onto the ball for most of the 4th qtr, scoring two more field goals before AZ sneaks in a long bomb to Fitz in junk time to leave the score at 37-21 Pittsburgh.
In short: The Cards will be too psyched-up for the game, and despite going up early will run out of emotion in the first half and will finally be dominated by a patient, experienced, talented and determined Pittsburgh defense and a surprisingly effective dink-and-dunk Steelers pass offense.
by tobiathan on Jan 26, 2009 6:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
A qualifying statement-
The above post was my way of saying that i think Warner will throw for more than 250 yards, and how i think it will come about.
In no way, shape, form or fashion does my comment above constitute ANY kind of prediction, or any kind of slight against the Cardinals and everything they’ve accomplished this year. I’m extremely happy for Kurt Warner, Ken Whisenhunt, Larry Fitzgerald and all the other Cardinals who have achieved what no one thought they could.
Arizona is a great team. They’ve more than earned the right to play in the SuperBowl, and will undoubtedly give our Pittsburgh Steelers all they can handle in pursuit of Arizona’s first championship. Nothing about Arizona is to be taken lightly, especially consideing that this same team beat us last year.
I will even go so far as to say that I wish Wiz and Co. weren’t Pittsburgh’s opponent in this SB; if not, i’d be rooting for them!
I just can’t root against my hometown Black and Gold. Nor do i want to.
PS- Please, please Great Football Gods: Forgive my presumptiousness and accept my humble pleas to protect and guide our beloved Steelers to victory in this NFL Championship Game! In the beloved memory of names of great Steelers passed( Mike Webster , Steve Courson, Ray Mansfield, Steve Furness, Dwight White, and Ernie Holmes) I pray, amen.
by tobiathan on Jan 26, 2009 7:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He'll have a good chance at 250+
Most likely they’ll abandon the run game pretty early. Don’t expect his passer rating to be over 70 though.
by tdp992 on Jan 26, 2009 7:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Let's hope it is raining, cold and windy in Tampa Bay this weekend!!!
Hey, if it starts snowing too, then we know it was meant to be :)
by vin2k on Jan 26, 2009 9:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
there’s a “Winter Storm Advisory” out there for San Antonio tomorrow night, so it could happen!
Brandona
by PrimantisStillersNAt on Jan 27, 2009 1:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Warner torch
The obvious; the Cardinals can not get enough of running yards against the Steelers to make an impact. Warner sprinkles the field with his quick release dinks and dunks that sets up the down the field throws. I feel his down the field throw is the Cardinal’s only scoring hope. They do have a good receiving core This will rack up the yardage, but barely over 300 or maybe just under. The Steelers had the tougher schedule and played some of the best passing offenses, the Cardinals have not played a defense like the Steelers.
FWP will have a good day against this defense.
Since the Steelers will be able to run the ball, they will control the clock, but not the score. If Big Ben does not play like last his SB, the Steelers will win.
by ibygeorge on Jan 27, 2009 9:33 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Not Even Close.
The Pitsburgh defense will come out with their same intensity that they have displayed all year long. What happens if The Steelers shut down The Cardinals on the first drive? The seed of doubt is planted and grows pretty rapidly. What happens if The Cardinals get hit in the mouth early and have to play from behind? Warner doesn’t even get close to 250. Period.
Consider, last years Super Bowl teams. Is The Cardinals offense as good as The Hated Patriots’ was? No! Is The Steelers defense as good as The Giants? Yes! In fact, its better!
Warner has played some really bad games this year against defenses that are not even close to The Steelers league. All this talk about him seems to be trying to bamboozle people into thinking he is better than he is. Seriously, if he is HOF material, why haven’t any of his previous teams held on to him? Because, he has the ability to crack like an Easter Egg under preasure.
Let’s not forget The Steelers do a great job of coverage now. I know its hard to get used to, but its true. The Steelers didn’t lead the league in pass yards allowed because their blitzes weren’t backed by really good coverage.
I’m saying: Way under 250.
I doubt his arm at this point too. Against The Eagles, on the flea-flicker, he seriously under-threw Fitzgerald. Fitzgerald’s man fell down and he adjusted well to save that play. Lack of arm strength means that The Steelers only have to cover so deep. I mean, The Steelers will cover a man as deep as he goes, but Warner can’t get the ball to someone that breaks free really deep, if that happens.
Just say no to 250.
by WyoFan on Jan 27, 2009 11:47 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
i voted no, but wouldn't be surpised if wrong
I believe that warner will be hit early and often and will look more like the giants version than the rams version. I don’t think AZ played a blitzing defense like this in the playoffs. Yes Philly blitzes but they run a base 4-3 and not a 3-4. the 3-4 has so many more looks that then the 4-3 its scary. The talking heads talk about whis’s adavantages becasue he practiced against lebeau, not gonna happen. That has been some time ago, you don’t think the master of the zone blitz can’t come up with some new in 2 years?
AZ’s running game will be done early. this will allow the d to go into straight up pass mode. The edge is old and slow, he doesn’t scare me, and won’t be a shock to run this deep into the playoffs.
The steelers first play should be a deep play action bomb. That will loosen up the AZ d and allow FWP to get going early and stay going. If the steelers can but together a pair of 8 minute drives they win,period.
If the above goes arcordingly this game will be over by half. That being said I don’t think it will. This will be a good game, but i just don’t see the cards winning unless something goes very very very wrong.
"When the boogie man goes to sleep he checks his closet for Chuck Norris"
by elirock83 on Jan 27, 2009 11:59 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying...
…that the officials are crooked, BUT- there have been several games in the NFL that have seen some pretty shady officiating. I’m talking about the kind of calls that keep one team in games that would otherwise be lopsided(a long DPI, Personal Fouls, Roughing etc).
I’m willing to bet that there will be at least one call by the zebras that help one of these two teams come SuperBowl Sunday. As a Steeler fan, i tend to think AZ will get some ref-help, but it could be the other way around. The NFL sure does seem to take pride in how “competitive” it’s league is. I sometimes wonder if they don’t encourage officials to “balance out uneven games”. Remember any Steelers games where we destroyed opponents, ran up and down the field, and had TDs taken away, making certain games closer than they maybe should’ve been?
Well- it’s happened all over the NFL. And i have no reason to think the league won’t maximize it’s viewership by making dubious calls to keep this SB as “interestying and compelling” as last year’s.
I vaguely remember when SB blowouts were fairly common. Not so much the last few years. Coincidence? Maybe.
I’m not saying….i’m just saying…..
by tobiathan on Jan 27, 2009 4:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
LMAO...
Yes they hang out with bigfoot at area 51 ploting who will win the Superbowl
by badmatty53 on Jan 27, 2009 5:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hahahahahahaha..hahahaha.haha.ha..ha...huh...haha
Phew- that was a good one, badmatty53!
You sure are one clever dude! Bigfoot and Area 51! Muwhahahahaah…good one, Matty! That just totally blows my whole point!
LMAO too….hahahah..hahah…haha..ha….huh-huh…..huh….
I’m sooooo stupid and you are SO smart!
Yeah boy…..
by tobiathan on Jan 27, 2009 6:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just saying
You have about as much factual basis for proving your point as you do that bigfoot or UFO’s exist. Or was that over your head?
So now what point were you referring to, did you have one? Or were you just prefacing your excuses for lossing if that is the out come?
by badmatty53 on Jan 28, 2009 5:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gee, badmatty53- it must've been LUCKY
that i predicted all those game-changing penalties.
It looks like Bigfoot was referee and the Grey Aliens were the umpires and line judges.
Jagoff.
And who’s laughing now, funny man??
Muwahahahahahahah…Go Stillers :-)
by tobiathan on Feb 2, 2009 3:33 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

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