Lawrence Timmons - The X Factor Nobody's Talking About
Somebody posted a list that ranked all 106 guys on the rosters of the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Arizona Cardinals. Coming in at #45 on that list is Lawrence Timmons. A full 23 spots below Larry Foote. Now lest I start bashing the list unnecessarily (it can't be fun or easy to make such a list; someone's bound to take umbrage), I'll stop with the list and just move on to my point - that Lawrence Timmons is the type of athlete that should allow our defense to fare much better against an offense like Arizona's that likes to spread things out with at least three capable play making WRs at all times (L. Fitzgerald, A. Boldin, S. Breaston).
In 2007 when we played the Patriots, Wes Welker had a field day. I'm sure I don't have to remind you of that painful afternoon. The 2nd half in particular was excruciatingly agonizing - like a root canal times 10 - as Brady looked Welker's way time and time again with uninterrupted success. This year against New England? Welker was limited to 4 catches for 30 yards before being sent to the showers by Ryan Clark. There was no Tom Brady of course, and there were many factors in play that explain why Welker, Moss and the usually high flying Patriots offense was kept in neutral, if not reverse, for most of the game that day.
One reason though was the presence of Lawrence Timmons in the middle of the field.
Outside of two divisional games against the lowly Bengals and Browns, Timmons had his best day in terms of tackles (5), and he had an INT that he took back 89 yards for a near pick-6.
I understand that fundamentally, spreading out a 3-4 defense is the best plan of attack most times, at least when the running game's not clicking. So color me on alert to see what Whisenhunt, Haley and the Cardinals offense come with on Sunday. But don't let the national media lull you into forgetting about a valuable X-factor that we have on our roster - a lighting fast, hard hitting intimidator in Lawrence Timmons that is vastly superior athletically than the ILBs we've had patrolling the middle of the field for most of this decade. Even in the case of Farrior and Foote - guys that I love and think the world of as players in Dick LeBeau's defense - they don't carry the same potential to make a game-changing disruptive play in the flat or in the middle of the field, or as stunting blitzers.
We will most certainly be leaning on the sound and solid play of our veterans Farrior and Foote against the Cardinals. But Lawrence Timmons should have ample opportunity to leave his mark on this football game. I think he will do just that and some of the talk and concern about this defense's vulnerability against spread out passing attacks will appropriately dim as Steelers fans begin to realize that this blossoming 22 year old talent has a decade of his best years still ahead of him.
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Long over due post!
I play a game with my boys during passing downs called “two steps behind”. This is during short passing plays in which Foote is in the game. I then point out how Timmons either makes a play or blows up a receiver when he is on the field. I love Larry to death….ON RUNNING DOWNS! Timmons should be on the field 70% of the game and 99% of the time in the second half when we have the lead!
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by Burgernazi on Jan 29, 2009 8:40 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Timmons
He’s definitely an athletic upgrade over our other ILB’s. My only concern with him is that for all his athletic ability, he still doesn’t look great in coverage.
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by BadMaafala on Jan 29, 2009 9:47 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
+1
Rec from me. He’s been my x-factor since last Monday. I think the Cards may try and do some decoy stuff, sending the Three Amigos deep, and try to open up the underneath stuff with Hightower, James, and the TEs, leaving Timmons as the guy who has to be there. Great post.
by Hines Ward on Jan 29, 2009 9:50 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Blitz,
do you have a link to the actual ranking of all the players, I would be curious to see it?
Who are numbers 1 through 5?
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by drinkyourmilkshake on Jan 29, 2009 9:57 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Nevermind found it for anyone who is interested.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs2008/news/story?id=3849137
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by drinkyourmilkshake on Jan 29, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Timmons vs other LBs on roster
I could be barking up the wrong tree but I have been confused over the use of Timmons for a long time. In my mind he a) doesn’t play enough and b) may be playing the wrong position.
I don’t understand how he is an ILB and Harrison is playing WOLB. Their body types, athleticism and speed would indicate a reversal in positions. I’m not knocking Harrison’s ability or results, but with him at WOLB and Woodley at SOLB – that keeps Timmons off the field a lot of the time – which isn’t good. Even Woodley could be used differently – the guy is huge and could play inside backer. Maybe Foote and Farrior are liabilities in outside coverage comparatively so LeBeau has constructed things as they are…..
I was thinking that Timmons could be used in a more radical way – place him over Fitzgerald and bump him at the LOS, then drop into zone coverage. If it’s a run he has outside force. If they use him at inside backer – he needs to drop and disrupt those crossing patterns – especially to Fitz.
How about a package where they play 2 down, 5 LBs and 4 DBs? How nice would it be to see Timmons on the field with all 4 of the other linebackers? Would be nice to see a blitz with Timmons and Harrison coming on the same side with someone else coming from the opposite side.
Actually, I think I have seen something like this occassionally, but it’s hard to tell with the changing camera angles. The guy is fast, really fast. Did you see him accelerate and run down Sproules in the SD game? He ran a crossing route and Timmons ran all the way across the field with him and made the tackle at the other sideline for a small gain…. very impressive.
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by franz on Jan 29, 2009 10:20 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
WLB in the 3-4
In the Tampa-2, the WLB has to be athletic and really good at coverage, but in the 3-4, both OLB’s are used most frequently (maybe 70% of the time) as pass rushers. Most 3-4 OLB’s are college DE’s: Woodley, Ware, Porter, all converted. 3-4OLB’s have to be able to cover, but in most cases, they’re not great at it because their main job is getting to the QB. The defense is about confusion (who’s blitzing, who’s dropping?) to give an advantage to guys who aren’t necessarily the best at coverage or at rushing the QB from the DE spot.
The ILB’s are used more consistently in coverage (although they blitz too), which is why Timmons and Farrior are there. Another way to think of it is the ROLB is like the RE of the 4-3, so the ILB’s are like the WLB and MLB (the main coverage LB’s in the 4-3), and the LOLB is still the SLB, who does a lot against the run. The roles are a little different, but there are some similarities.
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by BadMaafala on Jan 29, 2009 12:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Timmons
I said the same exact thing to my wife and son last night while watching all of the NFL Networks coverage (on DVR). Nobody has really said anything about Timmons on Total Access. He is definitely an X-Factor and can make plays both rushing the passer and dropping into coverage. Not only that, but Timmons and Woodley were nowhere to be found throughout the entire media day. I found that kind of weird.
While everybody continues to gush over Arizona’s offense, it seems that they can’t even fathom that the Steelers will be able to slow them down. And what about the Steelers offense against the Cards? All of a sudden the Arizona Defense is on of the top units in the league? The coverage, it seems, is all about the great story that the Cardinals season has become. I’m looking forward to that entire story line getting flipped upside down!
by 36SBXL on Jan 29, 2009 10:28 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
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by YeOldeMexFan on Feb 1, 2009 12:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts exactly
He’s still an unknown in this league. Woodley can’t hide anymore, but Timmons still is under the radar. Good. One monster hit on Fitzgerald or Boldin and the football world will be on red alert.
by NoCal-SteelCity on Jan 29, 2009 11:24 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Timmons
Is the reason why the steelers were able to beat the pats like they did. His speed and athletism gives our defense to have an LB cover someone’s slot guy. Typicall for an offense you want this but in Timmons case he tracked down darren sproles, the guy is fast. That means you can’t just spread the defense out with 4 or 3 WRs because the lineback will be able to stay with his man which makes it virtually impossible to pass with harrison and woodley coming. I’m still nervous about this game because a slip here or a slip there can cost it for us. But I expect us to come through.
by tannofsteel84 on Jan 29, 2009 12:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That list
I read that article. it was hilarious. Granted it’s a tough thing to do, but it was like after the first 15 were placed they just went by jersey number or some other random stat.
by Chicago Steeler on Jan 29, 2009 12:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'd love to see timmy
I want him in there 75% of the time. Basically I think all 2-4th down scenarios.
Foote and Farrior are good players to be sure, but Farrior has lost his steps and so has Foote. While both stop the run very well and Farrior helps lead that defense, this matchup has Timmons all over it.
I really look forward to seeing him play. I think his ability to close the gap is going to come in handy, and hopefully it will allow the beastly OLB’s to blitz.
by Mechem on Jan 29, 2009 2:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The artical also has the Cardinals Punter ranked number 104 out of 106. He has punted 60% of his playoff punts within the 10 yard line.
Their were a few other major flubs I thought too.
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by drinkyourmilkshake on Jan 29, 2009 2:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I've been thinking the same thing
That this could very well be Timmons’ stage … many people (myself included) think Warner’s strength as a QB comes against the outside blitz, reading it within a second and dumping off a pass to the nearest open receiver; I’d love to see Timmons used to blow up the middle and rush straight off-center into Warner’s facemask … even if he doesn’t get there for a sack, he’s one intimidating mutha and would certainly create enough pressure, confusion, hesitation, and disruption in visibility to blow up some key plays and drives.
The only downside is if he has a huge game it could spell the end of Foote in a black & gold uniform.
(off-topic a bit, but did anyone else see Kevin Greene’s been hired by Green Bay to work as an OLB coach … it woulda been nice to get him on the Steelers’ staff, but I suppose I don’t really know any details of the deal … I just love everything about that guy)
by Fahey on Jan 29, 2009 3:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Really?? Are they kidding me!
39. WR Nate Washington — Steelers
He is an experienced possession receiver who aligns as the third receiver in the Steelers’ multiple-spread sets. He has slowly developed into a reliable target
Possession!!
by SteelerBrazil on Jan 29, 2009 3:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Also
Last year, lots of analysts told Fitz was overrated, cos he wasnt even the best WR on the team, Now he is the best in the whole world??
With a similar offense Moss did much more than him! He is great, but overhyped right now! I dont see any difference between him and Boldin except momentum!
by SteelerBrazil on Jan 29, 2009 3:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
+1
good thoughts, I still like Boldin more myself.
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by drinkyourmilkshake on Jan 29, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I prefer the Fitz but...
He has only truly recently blossomed. Its interesting how Boldin and Fitz essentially make eachother successful.
Without the other Fitz would be jammed and triple teamed to hell. And nobody can beat that.
by Mechem on Jan 29, 2009 5:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have to disagree
I don’t think Fitzgerald is overrated in any way, shape, or form. He runs the best routes in the NFL. He has arguably the best hands in the NFL. Next to Andre Johnson he’s the most physical receiver in the NFL. He fights for the ball better than any receiver…maybe ever. And he’s, without question, the best in NFL when the ball is in the air.
Larry Fitzgerald is the reason the Cards are in the Super Bowl. Without him, they lose to ATL, or Philly.
by NoCal-SteelCity on Jan 30, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Seems like a lot of us are thinking the same thing about Timmons
However, I also am feeling that he could be difference maker on the inside Blitz. He just missed blowing up Flacco on a couple of occasions during the Championship game. If he can effective pressure Warner into hurrys then he will have done his job
by RickVa on Jan 29, 2009 5:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Just scratching the surface
Some fans were impatient last year with Timmons. There was talk of him being a bust. This year there has been some impatience with the coaches for not playing him more. Fans want to see him in the lineup.
The reality is that the Steelers have handled this kid perfectly. And that’s what he still is, a kid. He is 22 years old. There will be only three younger players on the field Sunday: Gary Russell for the Steelers. Calais Campbell and Tim Hightower (younger by a few days) for the Cardinals. In addition to being young, Timmons has very little playing experience. He played just one year as a starter at Florida State. He’s also had to learn a new position in a very complex defense. That’s the only reason Foote is the starter; he understands his role and won’t blow assignments, in addition to being a pretty good run stopper. Timmons is a neophyte (relative to teammates) when it comes to understanding zone pass defenses and picking up the guy he should be covering, which is why he sometimes gives up a couple steps to his man. He basically just attacked the line of scrimmage at Florida State. And he is still learning how to blitz while staying under control. He takes big fast steps and can be blocked with just a little chip by the running back.
Sunday might be a huge coming out party on the national stage. He really is the X factor as Blitz mentions. The unique qualities of the Cardinals’ offense play right into his natural athletic skills. But whether or not he plays a big role in the Super Bowl, the kid is just scratching the surface of how good he is going to be.
by steeler.lifer on Jan 29, 2009 7:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
+1 for the #1 pick
Cards big plays come between the numbers and if this is a breakout game for Mr. 94, Steelers win!
Tomlin’s stamp on the team!
Here we go Steelers!!
by TomlinEra on Jan 29, 2009 11:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Timmons reminds me of
Troy Polamalu when he first came into the league. He’s oozing with talent and learning the mental aspects of the game. I couldn’t agree more Blitz, this guy is going to be special for the next 10 years. If we can hang on to him and Woodley the legend of the Steeler’s linebackers will live on for the foreseeable future.
by Steev1705 on Jan 31, 2009 12:45 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

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