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BTSC Answers Steelers Questions In Preparation of Sunday's AFC North Game Against The Browns

After the jump, you can find my questions to the questions Chris Pokorny asked me over at Dawgs by Nature. Many thanks to him for setting it up. I didn't have time to ask Chris questions, but I am interested in hearing his take on the Browns in several weeks time to see what he thinks about the development of the team under Eric Mangini. Perhaps during the Bye Week. Thanks again to Chris.

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I was pleased to be joined by Michael Bean, our Pittsburgh Steelers affiliate, who runs Behind the Steel Curtain, to preview Sunday's game. Enjoy!

Chris: "Please be as brutally honest with this question as possible. I know the past rivalry of the Browns/Steelers exists still, but heading into THIS week's game, do you really feel any more emotionally charged than you would against a more competitive team? (i.e. what is the intensity of the rivalry in 2009 as a Steelers fan)?"

Michael: "Interesting question. I'll say two things. Firstly, I'd imagine that many long time fans of the game - those who were around when the Steelers/Browns rivalry was one of the best in football - are always excited when Cleveland's next up on the schedule. I myself am not quite old enough to appreciate the true greatness and intensity of the rivalry, but my guess is that older fans don't allow current records and trends to diminish their interest in each and every game played between the two teams.  That's why their rivalries, not merely games with immediately relevant playoff implications.

Secondly, I'm personally extremely anxious for this one. It's a mix of excitement and optimism that the Steelers will continue to iron out some kinks while notching their third win in a row. But also mixed in there is the understanding that the writing could hit the wall this weekend if the Steelers struggle in the same way(s) that they have early this season - even in victory. 

This is the kind of game that the Steelers (and their fanbase) really need. Pittsburgh has struggled a bit out of the gates this year, but they're still 3-2 and have done plenty of nice things through five games. The most notable, of course, would be the improved play of the offensive line, the running game and the exponentially improved play of Ben Roethlisberger. A loss to Cleveland though - at Heinz Field no less - and it will be a lot harder to rationalize to ourselves that this team 'has it' this year. Bottom line is we're excited for this one."

Chris: "The Steelers' defense hasn't been as dominant this season. Surely this can't be due to losing just one player in Troy Polamalu, can it?"

Michael: "Well, that's the million dollar question around Steeler Nation. Football's so wonderfully fascinating in that way. It's the penultimate team sport. You lose a Kobe Bryant in basketball, you're screwed. You lose your top wide receiver, safety or running back in football and you're expected to not suffer too big a dropoff. I don't know. It's impossible to quantify just how much of a difference a super-human player like Polamalu makes. My gut tells me though that he makes all difference in the world for Dick LeBeau's defense.

If you watch and re-watch NFL games - especially in slow motion - you start to see just how much of a mental game it is. A game of cat and mouse between quarterbacks and opposing defenses. It's why quarterbacks typically don't hit their stride until later in their careers - after they've had awhile to accumulate knowledge and store it away in their memory bank. So much of what unfolds on an NFL field is decided in that 10-20 seconds in the qb's brain before and right after the ball is snapped.

When a quarterback sees Polamlu dancing around, Head & Shoulders conditioned hair glistening in the autumnal air (haha, couldn't resist), quarterbacks, even the best of them, have to process all that information in a different way than when they're staring down a guy like Tyrone Carter. Again, impossible to quantify, but I'd say that the absolute most important thing for a quarterback to have at the line of scrimmage is a clear, confident head."

Chris: "Over the past few weeks, we've seen Rashard Mendenhall take control of the running back position in Willie Parker's absence. Would you rather Mendenhall get all the carries going forward, or should Parker still see half the carries when he comes back?"

Michael: "I think it depends on who the Steelers are playing. Against physical, stout rush defenses like Baltimore or Minnesota, I'd rather Mendenhall get 15 carries to Parker's 10. But against less imposing defenses, I'd just assume the Steelers get some final value out of Parker before he most likely moves on at the end of this year. Mendenhall has shown promise the past two weeks. Enough to persuade even the most fervent doubters of our 2008 Draft Class that he can at least be serviceable in the future. I suppose then an ideal situation would be to keep getting him touches, experience, etc etc while not working him too hard.

Then again, the Steelers might be able to retain Parker by keeping his market value artificially low this year. They theoretically could do that I suppose by limiting his carries to around 5-8 touches per game. Teams might be less inclined to shell out decent money for him next spring when he becomes a free agent. Who knows, the Steelers might then be able to keep him for another couple of years for 50 cents on the dollar."

Chris: "The Browns have given up too many rushing yards to more non-mobile quarterbacks the past two weeks against Carson Palmer and Trent Edwards. Based on his stats, Ben Roethlisberger hasn't broken off many nice scrambles this season. Is this an effort by him to be more of a passing quarterback, or are defenses just doing a good job spying on him?"

Michael: "I'm running long here, but I'd answer quite simply here that Ben is maturing as a pocket passer in his 6th NFL season. That said, Ben's had some nice runs this year. They've come mostly in critical situations where the passing game has sufficiently convinced the defense that Ben is more of a threat as a pocket passer than he is scrambling. Check out some of the pictures from Pittsburgh's Week 2 loss and you'll realize that he's still more than willing to give up his body to make a play with his legs when his team is needing it most."

Chris: "I won't even ask you who you think will win this Sunday, because I know it'll be the Steelers. How close do you think the game will be?"

Michael: "I actually think the Browns have the right mental makeup heading in to this game to keep it close or win it if things break their way. To reiterate, they'll need some breaks - either multiple Big Ben interceptions, a huge play or two from Joshua Cribbs on special teams, a missed tackle in the secondary, etc etc. But as I wrote yesterday on BTSC, the Browns are 1-0 without Braylon Edwards, and they've played very tough closely contested and physical games the past two weeks.

They weren't rewarded with a win against the Bengals, and it certainly wasn't pretty last week against the Bills, but forget style points. We're talking about professional athletes chalk full of pride and ego. It's way too early in the year for guys like that to give up. And a win at Heinz puts them at 2-4 and theoretically back above water. This game's huge for Cleveland and it wouldn't surprise me if the mercurial Derek Anderson broke out of his funk and had a solid game on Sunday. It will take more than just a solid game from DA though because this one's at Heinz. I'd imagine the Browns will need to force 3 Steelers turnovers to steal a win.

Anyway, I like Cleveland's mental state heading in to this game. Not sure I love Mangini as a motivator or a game coach, but I think the players should mostly be able to get themselves up for this one after finally being rewarded last week with a W. All that said, if Pittsburgh executes and plays even their A- game, they'll win this game by 10 points."

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Your take on Sunday's game....
Pittsburgh by 10 or fewer
136 votes
Pittsburgh by 10+
547 votes
Cleveland victory
21 votes
Tie
6 votes

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"Penultimate team sport"

You must have meant “ultimate” team sport. Penultimate means “second to the top” IIRC.

So if Football is the penultimate team sport, then the question would be: what is the ultimate team sport?

Also, at the end of the first answer, you write “their,” when you meant “they’re.”

by PaulMorel on Oct 16, 2009 5:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Still Good

I should add that I still enjoyed this little chat, and I look forward to these columns each week, even though they are a relatively new thing.

by PaulMorel on Oct 16, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks for the corrections

Admittedly, I was kinda drunk when I answered those last night. Thanks for the tips.

Freel free to email me anytime at behindthesteelcurtain@gmail.com with questions, suggestions, complaints, etc, or to just say what's up. -Michael Bean (Blitz)

by Blitzburgh on Oct 16, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hehe

yeah this is technically a ‘hobby’ so boozing and posting sometimes get mixed. not enough time in the day otherwise :)

Freel free to email me anytime at behindthesteelcurtain@gmail.com with questions, suggestions, complaints, etc, or to just say what's up. -Michael Bean (Blitz)

by Blitzburgh on Oct 16, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blitz

When are you coming to SF?

by worldtrip on Oct 16, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

early december prolly

Hopefully will be on a day or weekend with a game. We can get a group to watch hopefully

Freel free to email me anytime at behindthesteelcurtain@gmail.com with questions, suggestions, complaints, etc, or to just say what's up. -Michael Bean (Blitz)

by Blitzburgh on Oct 16, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Soccer is the ultimate

Football a somewhat close second.

by Bug Ben on Oct 17, 2009 3:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Parker and Mendenhall

I agree that Spin-denhall should be getting the ball vs. stout defenses, and that Parker can get some as well. However, if the Steelers expect #34 to be good against those stout defenses then he needs to get more touches vs all of the other teams, as has still only started tow games, not counting last year’s Baltimore game.
I beleive that Parker will test the market regardless and is probably going to find one taker, even if he is not the primary back for the Steelers from hera on out.

+1 on the drunkness writing prowess…jeje

It all starts in the trenches.

by The_Nation_in_Mexico on Oct 16, 2009 6:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

...two games...

It all starts in the trenches.

by The_Nation_in_Mexico on Oct 16, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't feel nearly as strongly as you do

and I am fairly old school compared to most of the people on here. But this was outstanding. I’ve missed your writing.

by worldtrip on Oct 17, 2009 5:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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     I don’t share in the rivarly as much myself, even though I’m kind of old school too – I’m just one of those that find Cleveland too pitiable to get too stressed out about.
     There is plenty of dislike though. Like many of us that live in, have lived in, moved to Ohio, I have had to deal with far too many Brown douches to not want to stomp their faces in every time we meet, and Maryrose is spot-on when she talks about their spitefulness. On time a couple years ago, my family was at BW3s, watching a game (that the Steelers lost, btw), and the large group of Brownies (who’s team was also getting beat) would jump up and cheer wildly whenever anything bad happened to the Steelers. Hell, they were paying more attention to our game than theirs. My little girl, who loves to participate, would jump up and cheer whenever they did, so I had to gently explain to them that they were loser Brown fans, and that we shouldn’t cheer when they did. (She still broke down crying – LOL ! Damn, little girls are sensitive!)

by Weirtonite on Oct 17, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

First kiss
First car
First rivalry

Some things you just don’t forget.

by Varmint on Oct 17, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Loved reading this

What a great write up.

It’s funny though. I feel you describe how many Stiller fans now feel about the Pats and the Ravens. To be honest, it just brightens my day to see Tom Brady throw and interception or watch Bill Belchick give vague muttered non-answers in the post game. I also love watching Ray Lewis, don his fedora and cry in front of the cameras.

Nothing will ever make me forget the feeling of utter defeat at watching the 2001 and 2004 teams choke in the championship game in front of the home crowd. That’s pain. That’s hatred. That’s rivalry.

The Browns on the other hand are the places on the calendar where you circle in the W – and pray that your team doesn’t embarrass you.

by SteelerBuddha on Oct 17, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As always, you’re completely wrong on your analysis of Browns fans, something you’ve demonstrated you couldn’t know less about. Just wholly misinformed, incorrect and completely fabricated. But we’ve had this debate before.

Here’s to realizing that the only thing that separates two great, Midwest fan bases within 200 miles of each other is the performance of their team in the last ten years, not some phony notion of general character differences.

I hope we beat you guys in a great game, it’s long overdue.

www.lowbrowsophisticate.com

by kwoog on Oct 18, 2009 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I must be dreaming again

I’ll tell my daughter that all those kids in her class were collectively just pulling a stunt on her…And the Roethlisberger piece I must have seen on another site…There is no difference in fan bases…Do I have to pull out all that I’ve written before to prove that? The difference is in how each reacts to being on top or being on the bottom, which in reverse would show the same thing. Why do you keep misreading me???

Why don’t we each just stay on our own site instead of you coming over here and insulting me, which I have never done to you on your site.

Thoughtful discussion with a sense of history

by maryrose on Oct 18, 2009 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What one grade schooler experienced means nothing, the Roethlisberger piece was a legitimate football post about a two time Superbowl champion rival QB and many, many people defended Roethlisberger a lot with virtually no one saying he wasn’t a great talent and a top 7 QB, you’ve never proven anything about the fan bases, as opposed to me, who provided 10s of articles on BTSC that prove the obsession you guys have on the Browns and their troubles.

I’ve never insulted you, I’ve just corrected your mistakes.

www.lowbrowsophisticate.com

by kwoog on Oct 18, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks so much for correcting my mistakes. You make me a better person.

Thoughtful discussion with a sense of history

by maryrose on Oct 18, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Know what you mean mr

I grew up in a little town called Ashland Ohio thats about an hour south of Cleveland. All my friends and family are Browns fans they are a sad small people I was the only Steeler fan and the Bernie Kosar years were hell. I can still remember in Junior High when the Kosar led Browns broke the 3 river stadium curse. This rivalry and hate will always be there and I hope we maul the team that has come to be a reflection of there sorry city.

Pain is temporary pride is forever

by Heartofsteel on Oct 17, 2009 4:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs


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