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Pittsburgh Offense Rolls Again, Steelers Defeat Browns 27-14, Improve To 4-2

Make it three straight victories for the defending champion Pittsburgh Steelers. I wrote three weeks ago after the Steelers lost to the Bengals that we should remember how dynamic and fluid the 16 game NFL regular season is and to just hope that the team posted some victories as they sorted through some of their problems on both sides of the ball. The Baltimore Ravens were 3-0 when I wrote that, but I suggested that we wait and see how they fared on the road against New England and Minnesota before we anointed them certain AFC North champions. Well,, three weeks later and Baltimore is 3-3, while the Steelers are 4-2. With the Bengals having lost as well this afternoon - at home to the mercurial Houston Texans - the Steelers now find themselves tied with the Bengals atop the AFC North. Cincinnati of course holds the tiebreaker over Pittsburgh for the moment, but there's still plenty of football to be played and all three teams still essentially control their own destiny moving forward.

A few initial thoughts from me about the Steelers victory over the Browns at Heinz Field.

Star-divide

* 36 rushes, 35 passes. That's much more like it Mr. Arians. There were a few instances where I didn't love the play calling, but for the most part, Arians designed a solid and well reasoned game plan. The Steelers averaged 3.9 yards per rush on those 36 attempts. That's a very respectable average. Rashard Mendenhall, Willie Parker and Mewelde Moore all had a few nice runs on the afternoon. Nothing necessarily to write home about, but 160 total yards rushing on the day for Pittsburgh. Not bad. Not bad at all.

* How about Big Ben and the passing game? Well, Roethlisberger finished 23/35 for 417 yards and 2 TDs. The 417 yards were the most by Roethlisberger since the game against the Broncos in 2006 where he threw for 433 yards. That impressive feat came in defeat though. Big Ben is simply playing at a level we haven't seen him play at thus far in his already decorated 5+ year NFL career.  More on this later, but Roethlisberger probably was a bit too willy-nilly with the football today on multiple occasions. He had just one interception but easily could have been picked off at least one or two more times.  He also coughed up and lost one fumble during the victory. Once again, even when the Steelers play dominant football, they're still collectively doing just enough little things wrong to keep things more interesting than we perhaps might like as fans.

* Nice to see you Lawrence Timmons. 2 sacks, 2 forced fumbles. That's three sacks in his past two outings. This should be a very welcome sight for Steelers fans far and wide. Maybe I should temper my enthusiasm for his performance though. Derek Anderson did after all just dangle the ball out there for anyone to swipe at. He's really not very good at anything other than slinging the ball with impressive velocity.

* As for Troy Polamalu - it didn't take long for him to make an impact, did it? Polamalu intercepted Joshua Cribbs late in the 1st quarter after the Browns had recovered a fumble inside Steelers territory.  Polamalu wasn't his usual self out there today, but you could already tell the difference he is going to make for this defense moving forward. Let's hope he has a good week of healing and practice in preparation for next Sunday's showdown with undefeated Minnesota.

* How fun is it watching Hines Ward make opposing secondarys look absolutely silly. He and Big Ben are really on the same page right now. That touchdown pass to Ward over the middle of the field - in between multiple Cleveland defenders - was perfectly timed. By Ward that is. It actually appeared as if Ben was looking in the direction of Santonio Holmes.  But in swooped Ward and he caught it in a small window and had the leg up on the sprint to the endzone. Ward is doing some ridiculous things at this point in his career. He now has 41 catches, 599 receiving yards and 2 touchdowns through six games. By the way, those 599 yards are tops in the NFL as of Sunday evening. As impossible as it may have sounded before the start of the year, Ward now has a chance to surpass his career year in 2002 when he caught 112 receptions for 1,329 yards. It likely won't happen, but it's sure fun to watch him just explode out of the gates to start this year.

* A quick word on Santonio Holmes - first of all, congratulations to him for his 2nd 100+ yard receiving game on the season and first since the opener against Tennessee. Holmes had 5 catches for 104 yards but it wasn't anything he did with the ball in his hands that impressed me. Instead it was his downfield blocking that I noticed. There's no way Ward has the day he had without Holmes blocking as diligently and effectively as he did. I'll see if I can get some stills of the dirty work he did. HUGE sign for Pittsburgh if you ask me. Many wondered if Holmes would be a 'me-first' kind of guy this year if he didn't get more looks and glory than in previous years. Well, he's been plenty involved, but probably not as much as he'd like. Nevertheless, all we've seen from him is his willingness to put his head down, keep taking care of the little assignments he has while waiting for the game to come to him in the passing game.

* I hate the fact that the Steelers were too scared to kick it to Joshua Cribbs after the Pro Bowler took one to the house early in the game. There was one kickoff where the Steelers just squibbed it and it was picked up cleanly by one of the upmen. Cleveland had the ball at the 40 yard line or so. That's just gift-wrapping very good field position in exchange for the small possibility that Cribbs would bust one again. Obviously it'd be preferable to just shore up the coverage units. But just handing opposing teams the ball at the 40 yard line isn't sustainable. By the way, I'd love for Cribbs to land somewhere else. What a player! And by all accounts, a great guy too. Too bad he's stuck in such a mediocre situation.

* Jeff Reed seems to be back on track. He was 2 of 2 today and I believe he's now made his past four kicks. Keep it up Jeff, we're going to need you I'd imagine more than we have in recent weeks later in the year.

* I miss Anthony Madison.

* I'll address the zany end to the 3rd quarter soon enough, but the Steelers running backs obviously need to protect the football better than they did today. There's a certain segment of the fanbase that will point to this as an example of how 'our coaches are letting the guys be lazy' or how this team 'lacks mental toughness.' Well, this team most certainly could play more consistently, and perhaps part of the problem is there's not quite the same sense of urgency being the defending champs. But I just don't buy that. Mistakes happen - the Steelers just seem to be making a few of them in different facets of the game each week. In the first couple of games it was red zone execution. Then it was poor 4th quarter defense, the inability to pressure the quarterback or get turnovers. This week it was ball protection. But on the flip side, the Steelers were much better in some of those other facets they had struggled with earlier in the year. Two steps forward, one step back. But we're at least not stuck in neutral or reverse.

* By the way, Pittsburgh only had two fumbles prior to today so let's not get too worked up about their poor performance today holding on to the ball.

* Mendenhall sure does look smooth catching the ball out of the backfield. Parker conversely - bless him - stumbled after making his lone catch of the day. I know people are down on him, but this football team will need him this year if we want to win another championship. Mendenhall may now be 'the guy', but Parker can still fill an important role on this team. I hope he maintains a championship attitude for the rest of the season and helps us get that seventh championship.

* 543 yards of total offense today! That's crazy. Obviously you want to put up more than 27 points with those kind of numbers, but turnovers were responsible for keeping our number on the scoreboard low. This is the NFL though - you have to take the good with the bad, and for three straight weeks now, there's been much more good than there has been bad. Win and move on.

By the way, the last time the Steelers racked up 500+ yards? 2006. The opponent? The Cleveland Browns.

Yes sir. Love it.

4-2 with a bigtime showdown at Heinz Field next Sunday. Can't wait.

Go Steelers!

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It was a great day

Really feels like a turning point in the season. 2 weeks and a few hours ago everyone was nervous about the teams future, and worried about the match next week with the Vikings.

This week, I’m looking forward to it. I think we end that unbeaten streak and Ben finally makes the sports world stand up and take notice of his greatness.

by svenhoek on Oct 18, 2009 7:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

My thoughtages

Great to have Pola back. Just shows what an impact he makes. Our team held its ground well despite making a few stupid mistakes.

The fumblitis infection was a seriously weird thing. But fortunately we held up well and prevented a lot of points.

The defense played excellent. No room to run, and not much for passing. They allowed 7 points, which really never should have happened. When they hit the deep pass on that drive, harrison was dragged to the ground, but of course no call.

Speaking of calls, I felt like the Hines Ward TD was a bad one. He came down in the EZ with the ball, and only lost it after rolling OOB. I think the play is over once the player is down in the EZ.

And other than that good game. Great primer for the Vikings that squeaked out a good win for us.

by Mechem on Oct 18, 2009 8:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

agreed on the Ward TD robbery

watching the bears @ falcons game – knox got a reception in the endzone, takes two steps before he has it punched out by the CB. result? TD. Hard to see how those two plays get called two different ways to this dumb fan…

by acrollet on Oct 18, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it’s a nitpicky, against-common-sense rule, but it was called correctly by the rules. He rolled over a couple times as a result of making the catch and eventually bobbled it out of bounds. Now why he didn’t draw a pass interference call on the play, that I don’t know.

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by BadMaafala on Oct 18, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh, I agree on the call

mis-spoke above – it’s the rules that I think are inconsistent…

by acrollet on Oct 18, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bad rule, agreed.

It’s a bunk rule and they should change it back to the old way. If a receiver establishes possession with both feet down in the end zone, the TD should be automatic.

by Billy52 on Oct 18, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just wrote a review of this

I did a little reviewing of some of our weird calls (with pics!) today.

And yeah the rule is really applying to tip-toe catches, where the receiver is never DOWNED in the EZ. Like Santonios epic last year in the SB43.

But when you’ve rolled around like you are having a seizure on the floor twice and dont lose the ball until you go out, that should be 6.

by Mechem on Oct 19, 2009 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My thoughts
  • I for one was happy they started kicking away from Cribbs. He broke the one return and on every single return he looked one step away from taking it to the house. If they had kicked at him the entire game I think he would have had a couple more big returns, possibly for a TD. Our ST has looked horrendous on kickoffs the last two games. Something needs to be fixed in that coverage, desperately.
  • Was it just me, or was the Mendenhall fumble bullshit? The guy was clearly down and the whistle should have been blown. He was not fighting to get back up or fighting to shoot further forward, he was just lying there. Blow the whistle zebra.
  • James Harrison has to lead the league in times held…by a lot.
  • I’m surprised Blitz did not mention it, but HELLO 4th quarter defense. Only 53 yards given up and 0 points . That is probably the single best stat of the game if you asked me.
  • Congrats to Ben, Hines, and the offense as a whole. Impressive day. My only gripe is that Ben had more questionable throws today than he did the entirety of the season. I counted 4 times he tried to force it into a receiver where the defender had the guy smothered. Come on Ben, stay smart, don’t force it.
  • After a game like today, I have to wonder why Stefan Logan is using up a roster spot. 6 games and doesn’t seem valuable enough to stay on the roster as just a return specialist. Maybe I’m crazy, but right now, I don’t get it.
  • Glad to have Troy back. Who almost cried when he started grasping his knee after the INT? I wonder if that is going to come back up, his speed didn’t look 100% there. However, his 80% is better than what we’ve had the last few weeks.

" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.

by Johnny_S on Oct 18, 2009 8:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

good thoughts

I would mention the play of our Defense but the Browns are just so anemic offensively that I’m not yet reassured that the pass defense still isn’t a liability. We’ll see. Good stuff for a day though.

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by Blitzburgh on Oct 18, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

True

But the Lions are not much either and they moved it on us. I was just glad to see us close out a 4th quarter with no points.

" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.

by Johnny_S on Oct 19, 2009 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree on all points

- Ben is lucky not to have 10 interceptions on the season. On the flip side, hard to complain the way he is moving the ball. But I do think that we continue to see small lapses of judgment. Ben is playing with a TON of confidence – but I would love to see less sacks in crucial situations, forced throws and interceptions.

- Mendenhall should have been whistled down. Love the way he is playing. Especially love his blocking and the way he has been catching the ball out of the backfield.

- Hello Lawrence Timmons. I am sorry, I don’t miss Larry Foote.

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by SteelerBuddha on Oct 18, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's Not Logan's Fault

Our special Teams units don’t tackle or block… They are asking Logan to shake 2 or 3 unblocked tacklers in order to make play. Tell the ST players to block and watch joystick do his thing…

Tell Mendy to hold the rock tighter and Parker to stop looking like a 60 year old RB…

by 72Steeler on Oct 18, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Parker looked good

Yes parker fumbled like a retard. I chalk that up to lack of playing time recently.

But he almost averaged 4 YPC, and did better then Mendy if you look at that stat. In addition he had a 9 yard catch which would have been more if he didnt slip.

by Mechem on Oct 19, 2009 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I cannot agree with that

Mendy looked great picking up the rush on passing plays all day. I don’t think he missed one block. Mendy had a great day, especially since he was running straight at that monster Rogers all day.

" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.

by Johnny_S on Oct 19, 2009 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mechem, FWP looked like a broken down RB

I think FWP is pretty much done as a big-time RB in this league. His whole game was speed, and he no longer has that extra gear. Mendy is becoming better and better at blitz pick up and has good hands out of the backfield. He still doesn’t carry the ball tight enough into his body (did anyone else notice that run on the outside to the right where he swung the ball out almost as high as his shoulder to try and dodge an oncoming DB from the secondary). That fumble he had was legit because he wasn’t on the ground, the ref hadn’t blown the whistle, and he has to have two hands on it when his momentum is stopped.

I think FWP’s was worst because his first fumble was legit and then he basically coughed it up without being hit. Wow, when Tomlin said he was going to run Parker until the wheels come off, well, guess what? The wheels on what used to be a sports car have definitely come off. He’s looking more like a Pinto now. Both Mewelde and Mendy are better fits for this offense.

by datruth4life on Oct 19, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stefan Logan

  The Steelers finished up the 2008 regular season averaging 20.3 return yards per attempt. Splitting duty between Russell, Moore, Carter and Mendenhall who had 6 attempts averaging around 19 ypa before going down with injury. We were 29th in the league in kick return avg. Our longest return being a mere 43 yards, it was the only return of 40 plus yards we had all season. In 50 attempts we only managed 27 returns of longer than 20 yards.
  So far this year Stefan Logan in 20 attempts has 15 returns of over 20 yards, 2 over 40 yards with the longest being 56. Among returners with more than 15 attempts he comes in 5th averaging 26.6 ypa and is 2nd in overall kick return yardage with 531. Logan has been our exclusive return man in 6 games this season and in those games has only fumbled once, and if you saw the call it was bogus. Overall when you look at the stats, combined with his surehandedness and reliable special teams play it is obvious why he has this roster spot, he earns it.

by Juan da Baptist on Oct 19, 2009 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

26.6ypa? So only roughly 7 yards per return.

Is that 7 yards really worth a roster spot? Our offense last year averaged 311 yards per game, so field position was always a big deal. We needed every yard we could on ST.

However, this year our offense is averaging 404 yards a game, good for 5th in the league. That extra 7 yards seems a bit irrelevant. The roster spot could be used for more depth at OL or in the secondary, both which need it.

Also, you failed to mention Logan’s two fumbles. I wonder how many of the top returners in the league have 2 fumbles so far.

" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.

by Johnny_S on Oct 19, 2009 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's not fair to call it only 7 yards per return

because not every kickoff is caught in the end zone – if you’re catching it at the 1, you HAVE to return it.

by acrollet on Oct 19, 2009 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why would you catch it at the 1?

" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.

by Johnny_S on Oct 19, 2009 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry I was thinking punts

" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.

by Johnny_S on Oct 19, 2009 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That goes with any returner though

I am saying he only averages 7 more yards than last year. That is not a huge amount. And this year our games are not battles of field position like last year. So those few more yards on returns are irrelevant IMO.

" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.

by Johnny_S on Oct 19, 2009 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

with that said

who would you recommend take that roster spot. how is a back up at another position going to HELP the return game? just wondering.

by 1STstate bucco on Oct 19, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or

how is a backup in the secondary or OL even going to help. In any case, anyone available now is a downgrade from who we already have.

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 19, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OL players get injured often. We had two go down, if only for a few plays, yesterday. It is never bad to have good depth at this position.

Our secondary has not exactly been stellar this year. Depth there would be nice, or maybe we just need to get Ratliff off the field.

" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.

by Johnny_S on Oct 19, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah and when that happens

you sign off the street the guy that you would have added for depth (if you were going to do it that way). You don’t cut a productive player from the 53 man roster just to stash a guy who’s going to be inactive unless there’s an injury.

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 19, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But my point is, why is Logan active?

He is not adding enough to be active.

" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.

by Johnny_S on Oct 19, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

again

who is this savior that takes his place. dont just keep saying it , give me an adaquate replacement!

by 1STstate bucco on Oct 19, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone who is good in ST coverage. Or any of the OL that are inactive for games.

" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.

by Johnny_S on Oct 19, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry I don't know the roster of who is active/inactive for games

" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.

by Johnny_S on Oct 19, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LB Andre Frazier, FB Carey Davis, QB Dennis Dixon, CB Keenan Lewis, OG Kraig Urbik, WR Limas Sweed, DL Ra’shon Harris, OT Tony Hills.

Last game.

You sure Ike isn’t reacquainting himself with his fingers, he certainly doesn’t use them for catching. - Brian (DaBolts) on "Face Me Ike"

by steelguy99 on Oct 19, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

Sweed was inactive and McDonald was active?

So activate Urbik or Hills for depth at OL, especially against a very physical vikings D.

Or Frazier or Lewis, didn’t they look good in coverage in the preseason?

" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.

by Johnny_S on Oct 19, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think, based on our coverage, that Frazier will definitely be active next week.

You sure Ike isn’t reacquainting himself with his fingers, he certainly doesn’t use them for catching. - Brian (DaBolts) on "Face Me Ike"

by steelguy99 on Oct 19, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So who do you deactivate?

" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.

by Johnny_S on Oct 19, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, don’t shoot the messenger. I’m happy to deactivate logan for a game or two at this point.

You sure Ike isn’t reacquainting himself with his fingers, he certainly doesn’t use them for catching. - Brian (DaBolts) on "Face Me Ike"

by steelguy99 on Oct 19, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn’t mind seeing Ratliff out and having a guy like Keenan in who can play special teams and can’t be much worse than Ratty.

Frazier needs to get back on the damn field, but I’d prefer to have him, Bailey, Logan, and Lewis all on the returns. Wallace can be a gunner as well though.

You sure Ike isn’t reacquainting himself with his fingers, he certainly doesn’t use them for catching. - Brian (DaBolts) on "Face Me Ike"

by steelguy99 on Oct 19, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can agree with that

Ratliff has looked bad on D and in ST coverage.

What about Sweed, can he return punts or play ST coverage? That would be interesting with his speed and size.

" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.

by Johnny_S on Oct 19, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t want to see Sweed with 5 seconds to think about catching :)

You sure Ike isn’t reacquainting himself with his fingers, he certainly doesn’t use them for catching. - Brian (DaBolts) on "Face Me Ike"

by steelguy99 on Oct 19, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hahaha

" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.

by Johnny_S on Oct 19, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's replace Ratliff with Sweed

Then if he drops it at least he’ll just be like Ike! ;)

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 19, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Keenan! Keenan!

Aw there it goes!

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Oct 19, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

IF

You don’t have a better solution how can you justify not making him active.makes no sense. If you have a better solution by all means let us know. If not, its not worth bringing up.

by 1STstate bucco on Oct 19, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

See above ace.

" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.

by Johnny_S on Oct 19, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

AGAIN ACE

give me a name. give me a role . how does that make us better on special teams

by 1STstate bucco on Oct 19, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you blind?

Look up about 5 comments

" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.

by Johnny_S on Oct 19, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

were on the same side

I want to see the special teams do a better job too. I personally don’t think that Logan is THE problem but I have been wrong before. If he were deactivated who would take his place and who would return kicks. will this make us better/worse on STor is having a backup at another position worth taking someone off the field that can break one at ANY TIME with a block here or there.

by 1STstate bucco on Oct 19, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well if he was deactivated you have Moore return kickoffs and maybe try Wallace or Sweed (if he can catch anything) try punts.

I just would, right now, have a better ST coverage than a returner. Maybe, as Steelguy99 pointed out, Logan is making more plays on coverage than I realized. I’ll have to rewatch the game and check it out.

" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.

by Johnny_S on Oct 19, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This game wasn’t on in my area, but I know on some of the other games that Logan was the first guy down on PR coverage and did a decent job when I saw it.

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 19, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't

think 6 weeks in we should be TRYING Wallace or Sweed (5 seconds to think about a catch, nooooooooooo) at a position they have not played in the NFL. Im sure both of those guys have practiced at the position and if they were able to do it, Tomlin would have used them when they were active.
 MeMo is our most sure handed returner. Thats why he is back as the punt returner inside our 10. Any other time its Logan because he has homerun potential EVERY time he touches the ball.
Is safety with no homerun potential in the return game what we want for a cover guy or a BU OL.
 I dont know. thats the million dollar question. who’s worth more. Logan or someone else. who? does he make us a better team? I think Tomlin knows better than both of us so I’ll go with him. he hasn’t let me down yet.

P.S. who would take Logan’s spot in the flat waving his hands in the Hypocycloid set. LOL

by 1STstate bucco on Oct 19, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

p.s.s

The reason for the Spaeth fair catch was because Clev. didn’t want to kick to him . how many 6 game old rookies can say that.

by 1STstate bucco on Oct 19, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So you’d rather have a better returner than a better coverage guy, right now? How does that make sense?

Our offense is on fire, and field position has not seemed to be an issue very much this year for them.

Our defense has “struggled” more, and would be worse off when teams are getting big returns like Cribbs was getting.

The only reason I think Logan should have an active roster spot is IF he is making plays on coverage. If not, let Moore take all returns and bring in a guy who makes coverage plays.

" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.

by Johnny_S on Oct 19, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Steelers shoudl sign Matt Capps

When he’s in the game the hits keep coming!

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Oct 19, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm done

 
I’ve asked 5 times who this magical player you have in mind to replace him is and you can’t give me(in a reply to my question, not look above ace to a reply where you yourself are asking questions)an answer. If you did we might have something to discuss.
 If you want to deactivate Logan I am obviously not going to change your mind but please give me a solution. Who makes us a better team? in what role do they make us a better team? Name? Reason?
 Until then if it ain’t broke don’t fix it.

by 1STstate bucco on Oct 19, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Matt Capps?

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Oct 19, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

good one Arn

nice to be able to talk about small problems on a good team. After all the ’ we’ll be a contender in 3 years’ talk we hear on the Pirates Blog
 Steelers fans just look across the parking lot and be glad you have a stable leadership that puts us in position to win EVERY year.

by 1STstate bucco on Oct 19, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But....

the Pirates will win it all next year right?! Please say yes or they are going to have to put me back on those meds!

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Oct 19, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No credit today.
Maybe tomorrow.

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by steelguy99 on Oct 19, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't cancel the insurance

Your going to need those scrips for a few years. LOL
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by 1STstate bucco on Oct 19, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude, have you read this post at all?

Here is what I said above:

So activate Urbik or Hills for depth at OL, especially against a very physical vikings D.
Or Frazier or Lewis, didn’t they look good in coverage in the preseason?

And as I have said, 20 times in this thread and I am sure you did not read that either, we don’t NEED tremendous returns. Our offense is that good right now. What we need is to stop the other team from getting good field position and giving opposing offenses short fields against our defense.

Please read next time, I’m getting bored of typing the same thing over and over to you.

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by Johnny_S on Oct 19, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You missed the point

We don’t need help in the return game. It doesn’t matter with an offense that averages over 400 yards a game. We are not in a battle of field position this year.

If anything we should find a ST coverage guy who can help our coverage unit that has looked bad lately.

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by Johnny_S on Oct 19, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If anything we should find a ST coverage guy who can help our coverage unit that has looked bad lately.

I might agree with this, if you know that the guy you sign is even a clear upgrade to Logan on coverage.

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 19, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

one of our best coverage guys

along with Bailey and Fox, Logan is one of our best coverage guys(Sproles against SD, OUR 5’6 guy kicked your 5’6 guys ass)

by 1STstate bucco on Oct 19, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Logan did play good ST coverage that game

But made mistakes in the Lions game that I noticed.

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by Johnny_S on Oct 19, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gunners always make mistakes. When you are running at full velocity, it happens constantly. It’s part of the gig.

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by steelguy99 on Oct 19, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gunners can make mistakes when they make plays occasionally

Besides the SD game, name when Logan has made a play on ST coverage

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by Johnny_S on Oct 19, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Logan has 5 tackles on the season. Frazier is a beast and is the only guy with more ST tackles than Logan.

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by steelguy99 on Oct 19, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also keep in mind that a gunner’s job isn’t necessarily to make the tackle.

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by steelguy99 on Oct 19, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

True

Where was he on that Cribbs return? Can’t remember if I saw him on the field.

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by Johnny_S on Oct 19, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was getting some coffee

I saw him. I read his lips. He said I go to get coffee and yall @#$# it up!

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by PixburghArn on Oct 19, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, Logan had a good shot at catching Cribbs. Someone tangled his feet and he went down.

by Varmint on Oct 19, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isn’t that illegal?

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by Johnny_S on Oct 19, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t have the footage (pardon the pun), but I think it was one of our own guys.

by Varmint on Oct 19, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know who it was

but one of our players was clearly held on that play as Cribbs ran by him. I saw the highlight on NFLN, and the blocker grabbed his jersey and you could see the hold impeding our player trying to disengage and get to Cribbs. I thought the number was 31, which, IIRC, is Ratliff

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 19, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't see that

I was yelling at Ratliff because it didn’t seem like he tried to get in the returners way. That explains why.

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by Johnny_S on Oct 19, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WHO?

Do we have or could go out and get that is going to do better than this ROOKIE. Give him a chance.

by 1STstate bucco on Oct 19, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But, I disagree with not needing help in the return game. Even with all the yards the offense is piling up, we’re still only 14th in points per game. This is the biggest issue with the offense right now. Having them start another 7 yards back on a drive makes it more likely that they make that little error on a drive and settle for 3 instead of 6.

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 19, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The low scoring has nothing to do with ST specifically, IMO. The low scoring is attributed to 3 things, I think. Bad RZ offense (first two weeks), turnovers, and poor play calling (has gotten a bit better, but still not what it should be).

We shouldn’t need to score 30+ points every game. Steeler football, get an early lead, then play stout defense and run the clock out with smash mouth running. If our defense only gives up 7-14 points a game, it doesn’t matter that we are 14th in scoring.

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by Johnny_S on Oct 19, 2009 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What we should and shouldn’t be able to do have little bearing on reality.

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by steelguy99 on Oct 19, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh sorry

Should I use can and cannot? Its the same thing.

We can hold teams to less than 20 points. So we can score less than 30 and can be ranked 14th in scoring.

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by Johnny_S on Oct 19, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only problem with that…we can’t reliably hold teams to under 20. Maybe in some far away dimension that is possible, but currently the steelers can not. They held the browns to 14…not impressive.

I realize there is blame to go around for points: Pick 6, ST, etc, but those are all part of the steelers game. And right now we are letting teams score.

I also would like to suggest that I am not impressed with our version of smash-mouth running. It didn’t exactly exude ball security.

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by steelguy99 on Oct 19, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right now we are holding teams to an average of 19 points a game. And 4 of those games are without Troy. Our defense is ranked 3rd right now, which just doesn’t add up how we are giving up that many points.

A lot of points are coming off turnovers and ST screw ups. It is not because the defense is poor (with Troy) or the offense is bad.

And I agree on the ball security. Mendy still seems to be a fumbler and FWP just coughed it up.

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by Johnny_S on Oct 19, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It doesn’t matter how the points occur, the fact is that they are occurring. I want our offense to score 30+ every game, because I think they need to.

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by steelguy99 on Oct 19, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno

Lets see how it goes next week w/ troy w/o aaron against a good team.

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by Johnny_S on Oct 19, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with your defending our defense

I also think the defense has been unfairly maligned at times this year. But, I also agree with steelguy99 that right now, we’re allowing too many points (partly the offense’s fault), and the offense needs to be scoring more points with all the yards they’re putting up. So far this year, they seem to be error prone. I just don’t think that adding more field for them to cover would be an upgrade.

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 19, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree it wouldn’t be an upgrade, but I don’t see it as a substantial downgrade.

I agree they do need to put up more points with all the yardage they are putting up. However, my point is we can still win in low scoring games with this D. 24 points a game can be enough, I think.

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by Johnny_S on Oct 19, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess my point is this

Part of our problems have been due to offensive mistakes leading to TOs. A longer field for them means more opportunities for mistakes. In the absence of those mistakes, I’d agree more, but on the flipside, if we didn’t have those mistakes, I don’t think that Logan would get the scrutiny that he’s been getting.

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 19, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, but

if you’re putting up 400 yards a game, it would be nice to put up more cushion for the defense, which has struggled late in games this year.

And, other than the SD game, when have you seen this offense running out the clock with smash running this year? I’d love to see it too, but it hasn’t happened this year.

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 19, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree

But how much of the 4th quarter meltdowns are do to the team having too much cushion? Are the defenders slacking off because “the game is in the bag”? Who knows…

And that is Arians fault we haven’t run the clock, especially against the Lions.

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by Johnny_S on Oct 19, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

The 4th quarter meltdowns have been on both sides. I think against the Bengals, the idea was, don’t give up the big play, because we’re up by 11. Eventually, the’ll make a mistake. Well, they didn’t. And, the offense didn’t help at all by only gaining 19 yards in the 4th quarter. Not sure about the Lions game. Maybe the same idea. With a big league, don’t give up the big play. Too bad they did on that TD.

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 19, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am not going to lie...

I almost cried when I saw Troy limping.

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by PixburghArn on Oct 19, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't want to hear that either.

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 19, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not to be graphic

but when I saw him back out there…I felt the relief you feel when you take a colossal dump.

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by PixburghArn on Oct 19, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I mean after

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by PixburghArn on Oct 19, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you have a point

There was some time of discomfort until I saw that he was ok.

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by PixburghArn on Oct 19, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know what you mean, LOL

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 19, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was the browns, after all.

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by steelguy99 on Oct 19, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

league should be lead

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 19, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've had an MCL injury like Troys....

..And don’t worry. I was still tender & in pain at this time of my injury. The fact he’s out there? Amazing. I credit a great part of this to the training regimen he has with Marv Marinovich’s Sports Lb training facility in California. The cutting edge type of body work they do there is insane.

But to be honest, the same type of move he made, cutting and pushing forward, hurt my knee the first time back, playing basketball. I was back in shape, it had taken time to heal, etc., but that first time, I thought I was done. 20 minutes later I was able to keep playing. It was just more like a shock to my system, and a stretching & working of the muscles and tissues in a way I had not performed since the injury. (despite the fact I had been taking part in good rehab…it’s not the same as a real live test).

He’ll get stronger every week. The downside, with many MCL/ACL injuries, is increased destabilization of the joint. He even said as much this last week, says it’s looser. I’d put money on the fact he’ll have to wear that brace the rest of his time in the NFL…or risk a debilitating injury.

Just my 2 cents.

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by __.58.__ on Oct 19, 2009 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

agree on the Mendy fumble. It did look like he was laying on top of a defending, which would mean he’s not “down” technically, but what about forward progress? He’s laying on his back, wrapped up by a defender, and another defender rips the ball from him? That just doesn’t seem like the right call to me.

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by NoCal-SteelCity on Oct 19, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Big Ben has 3 straight games with a passer rating over 100

We have 3 straight wins.

Big Ben is balling, and maturing into one of the very best right before our eyes

Although I think Passer Rating is useless, it confirms just how DAMN good he has been this season

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by Steeler_ on Oct 18, 2009 9:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

great game today

We had a couple moments of sloppy play today, but nothing I think we have to worry about. I’m excited about playing the vikes next week, although a little nervous at the same time. I watched a little bit of the game today and it seemed like the ravens had no answer for favre and company. No idea how Tomlin and staff approach this one, but I’m counting down the seconds til kickoff.

by ironmike55 on Oct 18, 2009 9:10 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Great to have a win and get back into a tie for first place

I don’t have a ton of time to put down all of my thoughts, but biggest one is this. In spite of racking up big yards in several games, the offense still struggles to translate that into points. I wouldn’t say that it is a lack of mental toughness, although that has been a question at times due to their 4th quarter collapses in a couple games. It seems more to be an issue of lapses in mental focus. I think what we’ve seen so far this year is that this team has the talent and ability to play with and beat anyone. Some of the mental miscues, on both sides of the ball, should be ironed out as the season goes on.

Overall, I feel pretty good about how this season is shaping up. Sure, I’d like the Steelers to be undefeated, but I’d rather they struggle early in the season and start peaking late, as long as they stay in the hunt and make the playoffs. I think the team will be fine long term, regardless of what happens next week. The only real concern I have so far is the loss to Cincy, and I think they may be about to come back to earth (as we seems to already be seeing).

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 18, 2009 9:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thoughts

I agree with Blitz about Parker. Today’s NFL demands Running by committee to be successful, and we need all three of these guys to maintain pressure on the ground. I don’t see the front office re-signing him to a big contract next year though.

Ben Ate today. Really feasted on the Browns secondary. I think he got a little overconfident though and took some risks he shouldn’t have.

How abou that O-line? I’m no expert but I didn’t see many blown assignmnets or protection break-downs. Ben had forever in the pocket.

Troy looked rather tenative on his Bum knee. I’m not criticizing, just pointing out that the guy can be 75% and still have a huge impact on the game. Look for him to be a little more aggressive next week as he continues to rehab.

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by MolsonGolden on Oct 18, 2009 9:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Overall solid effort against a dud of a team.

Big kudos to Big Ben, Hines Ward, Heath Miller, Tone, Mike Wallace and the OL. The Steelers’ passing attack was unstoppable today and, without two costly fumbles by Parker and Mendenhall, the final score would have been ridiculous. At least one of the fumble calls, though, seemed dubious.

Congrats to Mike Wallace who staked a solid claim to the #3 WR spot with some nifty catches and a tough run on a reverse. Good work by Mewelde Moore, particularly late in the game, getting the tough yards and holding onto the ball. Interesting that Tomlin turned to Moore as his “hands guy” after the fumbles.

The defense improved and it was great to have Troy back. He sure gave us a bit of a scare, though, when he got up limping after his interception.

As suspected, the Browns aren’t very good. In fact, if not for Cribbs, these guys might never score. So let’s not get too carried away until we’ve faced at least one top QB. Anderson looked very mediocre today—that is, when he wasn’t getting sacked and coughing up the ball.

The only negatives are too many turnovers and another huge lapse by Ratliff. Guess who was in a perfect position to tackle Cribbs on his TD return, but somehow never even got close? This guy can’t get it done no matter where he plays.

by Billy52 on Oct 18, 2009 9:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I loved that run by Wallace. No more pansy stuff since that one play in week 2 (?). He’s been blocking well, too. Becoming a not-rookie very rapidly.

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by BadMaafala on Oct 18, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1

that was the toughest running I’ve seen from a WR not named Ward in quite a while…

by acrollet on Oct 18, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fo sho

I was playin him on fantasy and praying like somebody would just blow him into the EZ…

But damn that was some bad ass runnin.

by Mechem on Oct 19, 2009 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bad Maafala?

Formed an opinion on how Ziggy played yet?

by worldtrip on Oct 19, 2009 4:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No Wallace

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by PixburghArn on Oct 19, 2009 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No he hasn't....only Wallace.

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by PixburghArn on Oct 19, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I heard Wallace thinks Ziggy sucks.

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by BadMaafala on Oct 19, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

but he won’t say it to his face unless he has plenty of open space to get away.

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by PixburghArn on Oct 19, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, I’ll wait for Dagger to put up a video. Holding the primary running back under 2 ypc speaks pretty well for the whole defense, though.

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by BadMaafala on Oct 19, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously inspired.

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by steelguy99 on Oct 19, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Miller Time

Heath Miller needs a special mention, 5 catches, 80 yds and 1 TD. He’s so freakin’ M-O-N-E-Y.

by VinniePie on Oct 18, 2009 9:35 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Mr. Clutch

What a player. Never hear him, just quietly goes about his business. Blocks like a lineman and rarely if ever drops anything coming his way. Underrated but not unappreciated by this Steeler fan. Miller is absolutely M O N E Y.

by 1BlkGldFan on Oct 18, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no maintenance

according to the announcers Tomlin was asked about high maintenance and low maintenance players. he described Heath and MeMo as no maintenance because they never complain about anything and when their number is called they do the job that is asked of them. definition of TEAM players.

by 1STstate bucco on Oct 19, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My understanding is that Heath rarely speaks, never mind complains.

by Varmint on Oct 19, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

mmmm

The strong silent type……sexy

by jglo on Oct 19, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was at the game today

and the pass protection really stood out(see the Miller TD-Ben had ALL DAY). The touchdown pass to Ward wasn’t timed perfectly, it was intended for Holmes but Ward hustled on the play and it paid off. Something still missing on defense….. Big test next week

by Dr Del on Oct 18, 2009 9:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’ve looked at the play several times and I’m still not sure who it was aimed at. There were multiple guys draped on Holmes, though, and I think Ben might have been following Ward with his eyes.

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by BadMaafala on Oct 18, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Turns out

that play was not meant for Holmes at all.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09292/1006669-66.stm

Holmes was in the wrong spot.

by steelerark on Oct 19, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He saw some fresh grass and went to investigate

I’m playing. trying not be silly but losing the battle.

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by PixburghArn on Oct 19, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You aren’t even trying anymore.

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by steelguy99 on Oct 19, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you may be right

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by PixburghArn on Oct 19, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Big Ben Era

Ben Roethlisberger became 2nd player since ’70 to win 1st 10 starts vs. 1 opponent. John Elway was 10-0 vs. New England.

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by sn0wballz on Oct 18, 2009 9:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A little confused on this one...

Wouldn’t it have to be 3rd player, since you’re starting at 1970, you’d assume that’s the other QB to have done that? Generally, dates like that aren’t just dropped out of thin air. And in this case, it’s not a matter of statistics that just weren’t kept…this one is easy.

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by __.58.__ on Oct 19, 2009 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unless

he only checked back to 1970. Sometimes 1970 is the starting point for many stats like that because it was the first season after the merger.

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 19, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

AKA

The super bowl era

by worldtrip on Oct 19, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Close

The super bowl era began in 1966.

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 19, 2009 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no problem

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 19, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think our offense played really well…
we’ll beat the vikings next week!

i was watching the other games too, and Gary Russell had a great game for the raiders..

by SteelLegend on Oct 18, 2009 9:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good points on Holmes

He had a very solid day catching the ball, even though he wasn’t Ben’s main target and you’re absolutely right about the blocking. I really do feel that teams have to respect his playmaking ability and let Ward, Miller, and Moore run roughshod over their secondary.

I know we didn’t necessarily see eye to eye on a couple of his games, but he’s been a great all around player for us in the last 2 games.

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by BadMaafala on Oct 18, 2009 9:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A win is a win

It wasn’t the prettiest thing, but we seem to like close games. Ben and the receivers were amazing. The OL played pretty well too. The sacks were mostly Ben’s fault.

Speaking of blocking, Mendenhall is looking very good at it. He’s better at it than Willie already.

Speaking of fast Willie, it is officially time to start Mendy. I am still a fan of Willie, but he just isn’t the same guy anymore. We’ll still need him, but he shouldn’t be the feature back anymore.

The defense was its usual self. And Cleveland’s ineptitude on offense really helped too. Timmons was exceptionally good at times.

We’ll need to be very careful with the football next week. So far, the Vikes are for real. This will be the ultimate test of whether the OL has truely turned the corner.

by StoneColdSteel on Oct 18, 2009 10:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree witrh your comment, they cant fumble and get reckelss this coming week. Can someone tell me which one of them will be blocking Allen ,

by Jadygirl7 on Oct 19, 2009 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Max Starks.

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by BadMaafala on Oct 19, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

To Starks' credit he has done well so far

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by PixburghArn on Oct 19, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He trains with him in the off season

so he knows him pretty well. on locker room show with tunch and wolf this morning. He said Allen was a GOOD DE but playing him was like puttin on a hawaiian shirt ,gettin a umbrella drink and pullin up a lounge chair compared to the" BOWLING BALL" he has to practice against every day. When asked who the best DE/LB he has played against, without hesitation, " the guy I play every practice,bowling ball James Harrison.
 I Don’t think Maxx is losing any sleep.

by 1STstate bucco on Oct 19, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BTW

Hines Ward leads the league in receiving yards 599 and is tied for the lead in receptions 41. Not bad for a slow old guy who is better known for his blocking.

by SteelerBuddha on Oct 18, 2009 10:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

very impressive

especially considering how much the ball is getting spread around

by acrollet on Oct 18, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The more Ben throws to Hines and Miller...

the more opportunities will open up for Tone and Wallace. This is turning into an elite group of receivers.

by Billy52 on Oct 18, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

love him…

he looks like he’s 25 again…but he’s still kinda slow.

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by NoCal-SteelCity on Oct 19, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nice to see improvements in areas we were concerned about weeks 1-4

Defense is getting stiffer, the 4th quarter turnovers could have been (more) painful if we were soft on D.

Running game still showing improvements. Mewelde was impressive at the end of the game too getting the must-have yards.

Offense showing that they can keep moving the chains/scoring to win the game.

-yes, other issues popped up today, but still going in right direction, plus we are (relatively) tied for first.

-btw, am I the only person who was irritated by one of the announcers unable to get Mendy’s name right? “Ri-shard Mending-hall”

by BoiseSteeler on Oct 18, 2009 11:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rushing Totals

Steelers only had 140 yards total rushing and that includes run by Ben and a reverse by Wallace. When analyzing the running game, you should only focus on run by backs.

by Big Swa on Oct 18, 2009 11:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

uhhh

You ‘should’ – wow, never knew you were such an authority, and judging from your podcasts, I wouldn’t really say you are.

by Bounding Muppet on Oct 19, 2009 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Talked to Blitzburgh

I talked to Blitzburgh, and he wasn’t offended by my Post. Your right none of us are authority’s, we just give our opinions. Keep Listening – Go Steelers

by Big Swa on Oct 19, 2009 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

-1. That was a little snarky, Muppet. Ease off the gas.

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by __.58.__ on Oct 19, 2009 2:37 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think it’s a pretty legit argument.

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by steelguy99 on Oct 19, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My thoughts on the game

1. What a great showing for the home fans it was to see that Offense move up and down the field all day today.

2. Ben is really lighting it up. Eventhough it was the Browns (and I agree in all counts with has been said here that he took some shots that a passable defense would have intercepted), it’s still 417 yards, 65.7% completion, 2 TD’s and some pretty darn good throws that where well defended by the Browns defenders when incomplete.

3. O-line. Can’t give these guys enough kudos. Their off the field work, such as the reported meetings they have by themselves and with the RB’s to watch film and study the opponent and themselves is paying off. Why do I dare say this? Well, they are picking up ‘games’, ‘slants’ and blitzes with good coordination and very rarely seem to be outthought. In the run game they have improved greatly with their ‘deuce’ blocks and on the stretch plays. It also helps to have a starting back that is decisive.

4. WR’s and TE’s. I challenge anyone to name one other NFL team with the DB depth needed to match the Steelers talent and production of the passing game. The only thing that can stop the passing game are the sacks, and next week against Jared Allen and Co. will be interesting but, right now, I’ll take my chances with Max with Mendy chipping him and #7 slinging it. Getting back to the point, if teams continue to slide a Safety to help with Holmes, Hines and Heath will continue to carve them up. Also, Mike Wallace is a better right now than what Nate was last year or the years before. Teams have begun to respect his speed and have to account for him when he is in, which is a lot as 3 WR is our base offensive package, and this opens up more space for Hines, Miller and the backs.

5. Defense. Anybody who says that we are missing Larry Foote has to watch closely what Lawrence Timmons did today and has been doing. He looked explosive and very sure tackling. And to think that he is still one of the youngest players on the team, he has not disappointed at all.

6. Special teams. Last year the coverage teams where greatly improved, what has happened this year? Ratliff does not help, but the playmakers from last year on ST are not pulling their weight, where’s Bailey, Harrison (Arnold), et al? On the other side, the KO return team is missing blocks all over, today I saw a couple of times where a cleveland defender passed by several blockers without so much as a brush from steelers blockers. Logan is pulling his weight, he hasn´t broken one for a long gain but I still like his explosiveness over the alternatives on the steelers roster.

7. The Miscues. Ben’s INT was purely a ball that got away from him, one that required perfect touch to put it between the LB and safety, not too big a deal. The Rashard fumble was a very close one, however, he should know that he needs to play ‘to-the-whistle’. Willie, mmm, I think he needs to keep rehabing and, as Blitz elocuently put it, we will need him this year.

8. Enjoy this win against a historic rival. Next week will be a good one.

It all starts in the trenches.

by The_Nation_in_Mexico on Oct 19, 2009 12:06 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

they ruined the league...

today’s nfl has become a glorified arena league…..and they’ll keep tweaking the rules to promote more gaudy passing numbers and higher scoring….it was so much better to watch back in the 60’s and 70’s…..

by MFB on Oct 19, 2009 2:15 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

turn that dern hippity hop music down you ruffians

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by PixburghArn on Oct 19, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL wt

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by Blitzburgh on Oct 19, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

all kidding aside....

the nfl wa much better before they let the passing game explode….and for the record…im way under 50

by MFB on Oct 25, 2009 5:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, they sell old pirated DVD's on those games on eBay. Go buy some and have that convo with yourself as you watch them.

A little tired of the “past is way better than now” buli. It is what it is, enjoy it or move on if you think it suckm so bad.

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by __.58.__ on Oct 19, 2009 2:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1 to myself, because I can.

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by __.58.__ on Oct 19, 2009 2:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

As an aside to your sig

I just got my Lambert Thowback with the American Revolution patch in the mail yesterday for the game.

I lurves it.

by svenhoek on Oct 19, 2009 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did anyone else think Ike Taylor looked bad?

I meant to mention this in my thoughts, but forgot. He seemed beat on every other play. It was hard to watch. What was up with that?

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by Johnny_S on Oct 19, 2009 8:54 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It did seem like Ike gave up a lot of catches and was aided by a lot of drops by Massqipujb. In most cases, though, I’d argue the short stuff was a product of the scheme. In the early going, Taylor usually had a deep zone responsibility. I’m not sure if it was cover-3 or the cover-2 “Ike” defense we run, but regardless, his first responsibility is preventing the deep ball, and not just to the guy he’s lined up on. He’s got to give up some of the underneath stuff to the outside. That’s the big hole in the cover-3. The scheme makes sense against the Browns’ offense, though, since DA throws a decent deep ball and has no touch on shorter passes.

He was beat on a deep post in cover-2 man (serously LeBeau, can we put this defense to rest?) which wasn’t good, but it was a nice pass if that’s any consolation.

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by BadMaafala on Oct 19, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I trust you

I am not very good with the schemes.

It just seemed to me when he was man on man on the outside a few times he got jolted on short outs or quick button hooks. But if he is just supposed to shut down the deep ball I get it.

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by Johnny_S on Oct 19, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Random thought

What the heck on that fair catch of the kickoff by Spaeth? I know he was being safe but dang.

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by PixburghArn on Oct 19, 2009 9:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lol. Good point. That was terrible. Its not like he’s a DL or something.

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by BadMaafala on Oct 19, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he had to pee real bad…running was out of the question

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by NoCal-SteelCity on Oct 19, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was kinda dancing

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by PixburghArn on Oct 19, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

on the field, or outside the bar?

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by NoCal-SteelCity on Oct 19, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

both

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Oct 19, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

At least Spaeth is finally providing us fans with something fun to talk about.

You sure Ike isn’t reacquainting himself with his fingers, he certainly doesn’t use them for catching. - Brian (DaBolts) on "Face Me Ike"

by steelguy99 on Oct 19, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if he said

Excuse me while I whip this out…

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by PixburghArn on Oct 19, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it’s clear he didn’t block the officer’s view.

You sure Ike isn’t reacquainting himself with his fingers, he certainly doesn’t use them for catching. - Brian (DaBolts) on "Face Me Ike"

by steelguy99 on Oct 19, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hilarious! :)

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 19, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Santonio almost a diva

Word on the radio pregame was that Santonio – while not exactly complaining – was definitely making it clear he wanted the ball more during practice this week. I’m not going to say he’s being a diva – far from it! – and in fact I’m glad the kid is so competitive. Hopefully though, as you pointed out Blitz, he will be PATIENT and focus on being a complete receiver and waiting for the ball to come his way. Hopefully his competitiveness will not get in the way of his own season performance.

By the way, before we can call Mendenhall “smooth” and knock on Willie for only gaining 9 yards on a catch out of the backfield in which he lost his balance . . . how can we forget Mendenhall’s Butt-Flop Reverse in the Detroit game?!?! Let’s face it, when it comes to catching out of the backfield, Moore’s our man. Willie played a solid game yesterday and should have gotten more carries!

by sylvansteeler on Oct 19, 2009 9:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dude

Mendy – looks great catching the ball out of the back-field. I think that by years end, you are going to see Ben start checking down more, which he has been reluctant to do until now.

by SteelerBuddha on Oct 19, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stefan Logan is a keeper and is earning his keep

Don’t quite understand the talk to send S. Logan packing on here. Does anybody remember who we had back there returning kickoffs last year – Gary Russell and Carey Davis. Logan is doing well on kickoff returns, he just hasn’t broken one yet. I think he needs better blocking.

He’s even started contributing regularly on the kickoff coverage team (although I don’t know where he was on that Cribbs return yesterday). People forget that although he’s played in the CFL, he is still pretty much a rookie in the NFL. He’s going to get better as the season goes on and will be even better next year.

His biggest indictment so far are his two fumbles and the fact that Tomlin doesn’t trust him fielding punts deep in his own territory, that is why you are seeing M. Moore back there instead.

All in all though, S. Logan gives the Steelers an explosive kick and punt returner for the first time in years who can also be a weapon on offense once Arians figures out how to use him. And the Steelers are only paying him the free agent minimum. How is that a problem?

by datruth4life on Oct 19, 2009 12:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That is a good point on the low salary.

by worldtrip on Oct 19, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Completely agree. It’s hard to say Patrick Bailey’s 5 tackles are more valuable than Logan, but no one is calling for his head (I’m not either, btw). Bailey is also less useful at his listed position than Logan.

Logan is a very solid kick returner. He’s 2nd in the league in KR yards (behind Cribbs) and there’s only a handful of full-time KR’s in the NFL with better averages. Yes, he has fumbled a couple times, but in general he fields kicks cleanly and protects the ball. Do we really want to see Joe Burnett try to field more punts? Moore? Mendenhall?

The only player on our PS I’m a little concerned about losing is Woods, and if the coaches really thought that highly of him, he’d be above Frazier, A. Harrison, or Bailey on the LB depth chart before we dump Logan for him.

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by BadMaafala on Oct 19, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’d like to see Burnett return a few.

by worldtrip on Oct 19, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He has to catch the ball in order to return it, though.

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by BadMaafala on Oct 19, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let me rephrase

I’d like to see Burnett get an opportunity to return a few.

by worldtrip on Oct 19, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.

by Johnny_S on Oct 19, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd like to see Burnett actually tackle a few people on special teams consistently

He blew his opportunity to be a returner this year in preseason. Better luck next year.

by datruth4life on Oct 19, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I sorta agree

We need to develop more talent than just Logan. However, I think Burnett should get his opportunities on the practice field before we put him into a game.

by Varmint on Oct 19, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Admittedly

I am assuming that he would get that before he would be put in actual game conditions. I didn’t think I needed to specify that he should practice first.

by worldtrip on Oct 19, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t know the rules regarding what the press can and cannot say once the season begins. That said, I’d have thought that Wexell or somebody would have a scoop if Burnett were getting practice reps.

by Varmint on Oct 19, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

He’s played 6 games! The 2 fumbles, one was with little time remaining on a kickoff return trying to get extra yardage, and the other we all know was bogus, his forward momentum was stopped for 3 yards. He’s a above average coverage guy and he’s not the problem. A block here or there and were talking about ’ how did we live without him’ instead of wether we should deactivate him.

by 1STstate bucco on Oct 19, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

R. Lewis, D. Woods could help the team & special teams and ...

both are available. Anyone willing to do a swap of K. Ratliff and P. Bailey for S/CB Roy Lewis and LB D. Woods? As far as the kickoff return by Cribbs, I think Bailey and Ratliff were the main culprits, though I guess the whole unit probably takes the blame. S. Logan got down there first on the left side but was blocked.

by datruth4life on Oct 19, 2009 12:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn’t mind swapping Ratliff for Woods and letting our young DB’s get some PT. I don’t see them being much worse. I really do believe that Bailey is our best coverage guy and I don’t think Woods is an upgrade in kick coverage.

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by BadMaafala on Oct 19, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Posted this already

but I’m pretty sure that Ratliff was held on the return. When I saw the highlight on NFLN, it looked pretty clear that the blocker had his sleeve pulled back so that you could see the shoulder pad.

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 19, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

U R right

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Oct 19, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BMF, you didn't see Woods laying out returners in the preseason?

I think D. Woods has much more potential on special teams and in the regular D than P. Bailey, but it’s not like Tomlin to make a panic move. I think our best special teamer this year is between A. Frazier and K. Fox.

Ratliff has looked pretty bad so far when he’s gotten on the field. If somebody offered us a bowl of corn flakes for him, I’d send him on his way.

by datruth4life on Oct 19, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

From what I saw in the preseason this year, I think Woods would be a solid #6 LB for us and a potential starter down the road. He’s a good athlete and it looked like he knew what he was doing out there. Obviously the coaches didn’t feel he warranted a spot, though.

Wexell talked to one of his team sources right after the cuts who praised Bailey for his special teams’ play, saying something or other about squaring his shoulders and being a general badass there. Woods is no slouch in the coverage units, either, but I’m not going to question the word of someone who most certainly knows more about special teams coverage units than I do. His upside as a LB is something like Clint Kriewaldt, though.

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by BadMaafala on Oct 19, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Respectable ypc? Really?

3.9 ypc against the worst rushing defense in the league? (Although, they might only have been thirtieth. I can’t recall). That’s respectable instead of mediocre? The Steelers benchmark has become that pathetic?

The running game bogged down and fumbled the ball. Two games with Willie Parker on the sidelines and the running game came back to life. He gets worked back into the rotation and it looked like the same old Steelers. Thank goodness Tomlin kept Moore in that final scoring drive, keeping Parker on the bench.

by upabob on Oct 19, 2009 2:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If you watched the Cleveland games this year, you’d see that they’ve been pretty good at bottling up the run for a while, but they’ll let up huge gains on embarrassing breakdowns. They didn’t have any of those against us and we didn’t really press the issue because we were seeing the embarrassing breakdowns in the secondary for most of the game. 3.9 YPC against an NFL defense is respectable, if not “good”.

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by BadMaafala on Oct 19, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

?

We ran the ball 29 times, not counting Ben’s scrambles or the WR reverse. Of those 29 attempts, FWP got 7 of them. His YPC was actually higher than Mendenhall and only 0.1 yards lower than Moore. But Willie was the problem?

I think you’re right about us not having a good running game yesterday, but I don’t see how FWP was to blame. For his fumbles? Yes. For the low yardage? That makes no sense.

by Varmint on Oct 19, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps

Giving Parker carries messed up some of the timing and chemistry Mendenhall had been building with the line?

by worldtrip on Oct 19, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Carey Davis

I didn’t get a chance to watch the game last week, but did catch most of the game yesterday…

I don’t remember seeing Carey Davis out there. I haven’t heard anything about him getting hurt, or released again. And I remember he was looked solid lead-blocking for Mendy against SD…did he play yesterday at all?

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by NoCal-SteelCity on Oct 19, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he was inactive for the game.

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by drinkyourmilkshake on Oct 19, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

C. Davis on inactive list

Rookie D. Johnson has beat out C. Davis for the starting FB position. Davis was inactive yesterday. Probably won’t see Davis unless one of the top 3 RB’s & Johnson are out.

by datruth4life on Oct 19, 2009 3:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

also

Johnson’s looking pretty good back there. He may not be a Danny Kreider, but I’m pretty happy with his ability to find a linebacker and hit them.

by Chicago Steeler on Oct 19, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Watched the whole game saying “Damn, Mend(ing – lol)hall holds the ball outside his body ridiculously far. Good teams will poke that ball out”.Well, eventually the Browns (a bad team mind you) got it out, although not on a poke, but I definitely saw them trying…

We are in BIG trouble if Mendy runs like this against the Vikes, Ravens (esp. the Ravens) and other better defenses. How do we get a message to the coaches on this? This is pretty bad form, so I can’t imagine they haven’t been yelling at him already for it. Maybe they can tie his arm to his side in practice – LOL

by HarryBTs on Oct 19, 2009 4:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Should the Steelers trade for Joshua Cribbs in the offseason ...

just so he would stop killing us during the games? How high of a draft pick would you give up to get him? I think this team will have 9 draft picks again next year after all is said and done with the compensatory picks. Cribbs is a bad, bad, bad man. He does want a new contract though. What do you all think?

by datruth4life on Oct 19, 2009 6:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How old is he?

If he’s around 25, he’d be worth a 2nd rounder, maybe even a low 1st rounder. Of course, he may not be worth that to us, as I think we need to spend that pick on a top DL or OL pick (probably DL at this point, as the OL seems to have come around).

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Oct 19, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What a weapon

Maybe he can play DB/Safety too? Anything has to be better than Ratliff back there. Cribbs is all they have on offense, and his contract apparently is a joke, so I imagine the asking price will be quite the ransom.

by HarryBTs on Oct 19, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

But, like datruth said, he wants paid, too.

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