Minn fan with a beef - I'm going to try to be as respectful and classy as I can...
by mjmrad on Oct 25, 2009 10:24 PM EDT
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OK, good game - hard fought, and definitely interesting till the end. I grew up in PA, so I have a lot of respect for this organization. Now, on to the beef...
Even if there WAS a hold on the kickoff return...
That still doesn’t make up for the bad "tripping" call, because there’s no guarantee PITT would’ve scored on the ensuing possession.
The way I see it, even WITH a bad kickoff return called, PITT came out ahead:
- Without the "two bad calls": MIN up by 4. (TOTAL momentum swing and the second INT probably doesn't happen.)
- With the "two bad calls": Both an INT return and a KO return - original score basically stays the same - PIT up by 3. (Momentum shifts back to PIT and sets up a higher pressure situation where Favre has to force more throws, like the one to Chester that gets picked.)
OK...make your case that you would have won the game anyway...
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I didn't see the tripping call either
when they threw th eflag I thought there was some holding that I didn’t see but when they said tripping I was confused I that was a bad call
"Polamalu’s lineage can be traced through several roots. Chuck Norris mated with an Amazon Queen, and on the other side, Tony Hawk mated with Mother Nature. The two children of these spawned and fused in a tantric love session to create Troy Polamalu. The mother however died as he tore through the birth canal with a spin move."
Mechem on the roots of Troy Polamalu
by WVPiratesfan on Oct 25, 2009 10:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank you – and, FWIW, you guys held our offense in check very well today
by mjmrad on Oct 25, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your Welcome
I still think it was something that happens atleast five times a game when RB’s have to take on a LB comin gat them full speed
"Polamalu’s lineage can be traced through several roots. Chuck Norris mated with an Amazon Queen, and on the other side, Tony Hawk mated with Mother Nature. The two children of these spawned and fused in a tantric love session to create Troy Polamalu. The mother however died as he tore through the birth canal with a spin move."
Mechem on the roots of Troy Polamalu
by WVPiratesfan on Oct 25, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What happened to Big Ben's offense today anyway?
He’s been so smooth throwing the ball…
by mjmrad on Oct 25, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your D found a way to stop Hines Ward
"Polamalu’s lineage can be traced through several roots. Chuck Norris mated with an Amazon Queen, and on the other side, Tony Hawk mated with Mother Nature. The two children of these spawned and fused in a tantric love session to create Troy Polamalu. The mother however died as he tore through the birth canal with a spin move."
Mechem on the roots of Troy Polamalu
by WVPiratesfan on Oct 25, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish we could play you guys more often...
…I think we could have a really heated rivalry
by mjmrad on Oct 25, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we already have too many rivalries on our plate right now. Lol
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by Johnny_S on Oct 25, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The browns don't count
after what 12 straight victories does this still count as a a rivialry anymore
"Polamalu’s lineage can be traced through several roots. Chuck Norris mated with an Amazon Queen, and on the other side, Tony Hawk mated with Mother Nature. The two children of these spawned and fused in a tantric love session to create Troy Polamalu. The mother however died as he tore through the birth canal with a spin move."
Mechem on the roots of Troy Polamalu
by WVPiratesfan on Oct 25, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was more thinking
Baltimore
NE
Cinci
Chargers
Jaguars
Titans
Then there are the teams that hate us so much that its sort of a rivalry like the Cardinals, Seahawks…
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by Johnny_S on Oct 25, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When do we play NFC West again
I can’t wait to play those two again just to show Seattle that we can beat without those “bad” calls, and Arizona because it will be an awsome game
"Polamalu’s lineage can be traced through several roots. Chuck Norris mated with an Amazon Queen, and on the other side, Tony Hawk mated with Mother Nature. The two children of these spawned and fused in a tantric love session to create Troy Polamalu. The mother however died as he tore through the birth canal with a spin move."
Mechem on the roots of Troy Polamalu
by WVPiratesfan on Oct 25, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
in 2011
Next year (2010) you will play NFC South – I can’t wait to watch you go head-to-head with New Orleans
by mjmrad on Oct 25, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We played the NFC South in 2006
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by Johnny_S on Oct 25, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right
You play each NFC division once every 4 years
by mjmrad on Oct 25, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But if we haven’t played the West since 2003 and played the South in 2006, why would we play the south before the west?
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by Johnny_S on Oct 25, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we played the west in 2007
so we should get the south next year then the West im 2011 if they play that season
"Polamalu’s lineage can be traced through several roots. Chuck Norris mated with an Amazon Queen, and on the other side, Tony Hawk mated with Mother Nature. The two children of these spawned and fused in a tantric love session to create Troy Polamalu. The mother however died as he tore through the birth canal with a spin move."
Mechem on the roots of Troy Polamalu
by WVPiratesfan on Oct 25, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We did?
Oh well there goes my knowledge
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by Johnny_S on Oct 25, 2009 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remeber we were playing the
"Polamalu’s lineage can be traced through several roots. Chuck Norris mated with an Amazon Queen, and on the other side, Tony Hawk mated with Mother Nature. The two children of these spawned and fused in a tantric love session to create Troy Polamalu. The mother however died as he tore through the birth canal with a spin move."
Mechem on the roots of Troy Polamalu
by WVPiratesfan on Oct 25, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rams when FWP Broke his leg
stupid closness of the right shift and enter button
"Polamalu’s lineage can be traced through several roots. Chuck Norris mated with an Amazon Queen, and on the other side, Tony Hawk mated with Mother Nature. The two children of these spawned and fused in a tantric love session to create Troy Polamalu. The mother however died as he tore through the birth canal with a spin move."
Mechem on the roots of Troy Polamalu
by WVPiratesfan on Oct 25, 2009 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right right
My memory is not too great with that stuff
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by Johnny_S on Oct 26, 2009 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We shut Seattle out
I’m pretty sure it was 27-0, I don’t know if hasselbeck was injured or not, but he always seems to be
it never got weird enough for me
by JerseyFresh on Oct 26, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember
We rotate through 4 divisions in the NFC and only three in the AFC because we are in one of the four and play them every year.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Oct 27, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about the equally bad call on Heath Miller for "offensive pass interference" that robbed us of a TD?
BTSC Obituaries
OldManSteeler, ominously died two days before Superbowl 123 where the Ravens are set to attempt their 7th superbowl win, facing the Detroit Lions on Sunday. He was 86. His last words are believed to be "MALOR CAN SUCK IT!!!". Like friends and family, we can only guess what this could mean.
by HighSchoolSteeler on Oct 25, 2009 10:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe that was a bad call, but it wasn’t a 4th qtr game-changing call. However, I’ll admit that call was probably dumb – I’ve always hated Ron Winter.
by mjmrad on Oct 25, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It still turned 7 points into 3...
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by Johnny_S on Oct 25, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m in no way excusing Brett and Chester’s poor ball control – it’d be so interesting to watch how games “would have” ended if certain bad calls never happened, and I’m speaking in generalities here…
by mjmrad on Oct 25, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's unfortunate
Both were bad calls. You obviously think the tripping call is bigger because you are a Viking fan. I disagree. If they were that dominant then they could close the deal.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Oct 25, 2009 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are so wise
Didn’t you go to the game? How was it?
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by Johnny_S on Oct 25, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was CRAZY! Great game to be at.
It had it all. Big offensive plays and huge defensive plays. That melt down on special teams didn’t do my heart well though. My son said "that was a live changing experience. I said you are such a kid! Grow up! We met up with Chewy and his 25 brothers. We went to where they were tailgating and he introduced me to 50% of South Jersey and they were all his brothers!! Just kidding…Chewy you guys are awesome. We have to get to a game were we all sit together so we can act up!! Johnny, did you change your picture? I will be in town tonight..if you can get away for a sec let me know.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Oct 27, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is awesome, sounds like a blast and I wish I had the spare dough to go to the game.
I have class tonight, but I don’t mind ducking out early if you maybe wanted to grab a beer. Send me an email at john.stephens8@yahoo.com and we can figure out what’s going on.
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by Johnny_S on Oct 27, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cool
Hopefully I get out there at a decent time. If not I’ll catch you on the next trip.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Oct 27, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I get your points but its too hard to project what will happen if a critical play would have stood.
The Steelers offense could have easily drive down and scored a TD like they did right before the second half.
The fact is we will never know.
watchkalibrun.com
by Zak Woods on Oct 25, 2009 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s impossible to predict what would have happened next. Shit happens.
by worldtrip on Oct 25, 2009 10:41 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I think a lot of Vikes fans are mistaking the position we hold on the tripping. It was not a penalty, clearly. The ref called it though, so that’s how it goes. We are just saying it does not matter because bad calls happen. Just like the kick-off hold or the “pass-interference” on Heath. It happens, and they suck. But BOTH teams got bad calls.
Do you think we paid off the refs? Do you really think the refs care either way who wins? I will tell you now, they get a pay check either way. They actually get docked points and ultimately money for bad calls, so why would they purposely make them?
In summary, I must quote a wise man. Forrest Gump once said “shit happens”.
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by Johnny_S on Oct 25, 2009 10:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, 6-1 ain’t bad – just makes the game at Lambeau that much more interested next week…
by mjmrad on Oct 25, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No it doesn't
45-0 Vikes is not that interesting of a game :)
From the only TRUE North division
by thewild_viking_twins on Oct 25, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We had good execution on both sides of the ball today, I only had to throw my hat twice. It was a nice change for the D to close out so strong
"Now that I'm here, I don't want to just be here, I want to be here for a long time." Hines Ward, 1998 4th round draft pick.
by kick him in the head on Oct 25, 2009 10:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice running game in the 2nd half – I was impressed
by mjmrad on Oct 25, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
I threw mine a lot. Kick off return. Mendy Fumble. 3rd and 18 wide open completion. Arians play calling for the most part. Etc.
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by Johnny_S on Oct 25, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But when do we not complain about Arians play calling
as we all know when we should be running the clock out we go into the empty-backfield Shotgun and throw it all over the place
"Polamalu’s lineage can be traced through several roots. Chuck Norris mated with an Amazon Queen, and on the other side, Tony Hawk mated with Mother Nature. The two children of these spawned and fused in a tantric love session to create Troy Polamalu. The mother however died as he tore through the birth canal with a spin move."
Mechem on the roots of Troy Polamalu
by WVPiratesfan on Oct 25, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
As bone headed as Mendy’s fumble was…I still thought he shoulda stayed in. He was eating up the Vikes and we coulda used him at the end.
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by Johnny_S on Oct 25, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or at least put FWP out there
"Polamalu’s lineage can be traced through several roots. Chuck Norris mated with an Amazon Queen, and on the other side, Tony Hawk mated with Mother Nature. The two children of these spawned and fused in a tantric love session to create Troy Polamalu. The mother however died as he tore through the birth canal with a spin move."
Mechem on the roots of Troy Polamalu
by WVPiratesfan on Oct 25, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe his turf toe was hurting?
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by Johnny_S on Oct 25, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe, does this mean Redman gets to make off the PS
Nice Avatar I quess you tought it was time to change it up
"Polamalu’s lineage can be traced through several roots. Chuck Norris mated with an Amazon Queen, and on the other side, Tony Hawk mated with Mother Nature. The two children of these spawned and fused in a tantric love session to create Troy Polamalu. The mother however died as he tore through the birth canal with a spin move."
Mechem on the roots of Troy Polamalu
by WVPiratesfan on Oct 25, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a stupid mistake no doubt
No fumble is a good one but that is easily classified as an effort fumble, still stupid but a little more forgivable, he will learn. Easy to forget sometimes this is only what his 4th game as the main back. He could have easily had a hondo and ground out the clock.
by DarinS on Oct 25, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The fumble was painful. I was sitting there in my Mendenhall jersey, watching the game. Kenny Albert calls “Mendenhall fumbled the ball!” and I yelled “NO HE DIDN’T!”
It was a painful moment.
But I don’t understand how you don’t run a guy who is averaging 6.9 yards per carry more than 10 times in a close game. Yes, the fumble was bad, and that was pretty obviously the consideration that led Arians and Tomlin to limit Mendenhall’s carries. However, I feel like that fumble during the over-the-top dive is less an indictment on Mendenhall’s ability to hang on to the ball and more the result of the nature of that particular rush attempt. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think Mendenhall has but two fumbles on the year, and both of them were in somewhat irregular circumstances: being stripped while on the “ground” (on top of another player) and diving over a pile trying to gain hard yards in the red zone.
Don’t get me wrong, you absolutely need to hold on to those balls, but it’s not like Mendenhall was just running an off-tackle and let the ball pop out. He’s a hard runner who breaks big runs every game and gets the tough yards that Willie Parker just cannot. I’m certainly not jumping off the Mendenhall bandwagon.
Here’s to hoping that Hines Ward puts up another bounty on knocking the ball out of Mendenhall’s hands during the bye week.
...Behold, a pale horse. The man that sat upon it was Wieters, and hell followed with him.
"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard
by Brett Jones on Oct 26, 2009 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This fumble is less painful than the first one
On the first one he did not hold on to the ball. I’ve said the play should have been blown dead, true. However, Mendenhall needs to hold on to that thing with dear life till he hears a whistle.
This one, I was mad about, but not as bad. Mendenhall is basically a rookie this year, and has only had 4 games getting significant carries. I believe he will learn from this fumble that you DO NOT leave your feet unless the play is designed that way (i.e. goal line carry over the top). It was a boneheaded play that you won’t see him make once he gets the experience.
I agree with you though, it was frustrating to see a guy who is punishing a defense get pulled out of the game when we needed him most. I love MeMo, but he doesn’t run like the Spin Doctor does.
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by Johnny_S on Oct 26, 2009 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I liked that he was benched right then.
Tomlin dealing with it right away, no doghouse?
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Oct 26, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doghouse him after the game somehow. Winning was more important and Mendenhall looked like the only thing on offense capable of giving us a chance to win.
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by Johnny_S on Oct 26, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
The game is ALWAYS more important than being authoritarian.
by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Oct 26, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the point was to show Mendy the importance of ball security, drop the ball, you don’t play. Apparently someone feels(perhaps Tomlin), that this is a lesson that needs to be driven home.
Was it last week when Mendy and Willie fumbled, that Memo closed out the game?
I do not think Tomlin thought that if he sits Mendenhall, we have no chance to win.
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Oct 26, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wasn't saying that LTSF
I have no problem with ANYTHING Tomlin does, he is the law. I wouldn’t do it, but I respect it if he does.
by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Oct 26, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
SteelerStuckintheSouth, I placed the “I think the point” reply porely. It should have been a reply to Johnny_S’ “Doghouse him after” reply. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
What is LTSF?
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Oct 26, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LongTimeSteelerFan
the same as SSITS for me
BTW, no misunderstanding here brother, do what you do.
by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Oct 26, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, LOL...
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Oct 26, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He coughed it up
in the redzone with a chance to essentially salt the game away. He was given a chance to excel because of the injury to FWP and despite the many positives he brings to the table has put the ball on the turf the past two weeks. IF you want to be on the field in crunch time hang on to the football. It’s really quite simple. I agree 100% with coach’s decision to bench him down the stretch the past two weeks. He needs to learn to hang on to the football. Period.
As for all the statements regarding him essentially being a rookie or he was really putting forth a lot of effort, etc, please, please stop it. Let’s call them what they are – excuses.
You/we/he shouldn’t have to be making excuses for Rashard Mendenhall. He’s a first round draft pick who is an NFL running back. He knows his primary responsibility is to hang on to the rock and he hasn’t been doing it. There is no excuse. He’s turning the ball over too frequently and at critical junctions in closely fought football games.
by King Coebra on Oct 26, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about the Jerome Bettis fumble against the Colts? Had it gone to overtime, do you put Bettis on the bench?
Or what about the fumble Ward had inside the 10 against the Titans this year?
He is still young and does not have the knowledge/experience that playing NFL snaps gives you. It’s not like he left the ball out there and a defender snatched it. He left his feet to jump over a pile, which, yes, is dumb, but now he can learn from that experience. I guarantee he would not have made the same boneheaded move.
It’s all in the past, because we won, but I still don’t agree with it.
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by Johnny_S on Oct 26, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would have
let him have it on the sideline, explained the situation to him sternly, and then sent him back onto the field.
by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Oct 26, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I would not have benched Jarome, or Hines, they were not still young and should have the knowledge/experience that comes from playing, and being coached in the NFL, not to remake such a mistake.
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Oct 26, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to trust our coach on this one
Mendenhall has had fumble troubles since day one as a Steeler. Do you recall he had to carry around the FB for weeks at a time as a rookie because he was regularly coughing it up? This isn’t a new theme with Rashard. Unfortunately it’s a recurring one.
As for comparing a young RB to two sure fire hall of famers – c’mon man. There is no comparison. Ward and Bettis have proven over the years that they have/had the mindset to bounce back from mistakes. Mendenhall has not.
Perhaps the reason he was benched was because of the attitude he displayed after coming back to the sideline? I don’t know. You don’t know. I guess we just have to trust that Coach Tomlin made the right decision.
by King Coebra on Oct 26, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Works for me.
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Oct 26, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m just saying. Players deserve chances after a fumble in a game. This fumble had nothing to do with how he carries the ball. It had to do with him jumping in the air for no reason, an inexperienced move that I doubt he’ll make again with good coaching.
Who knows what his attitude was, of course. I am saying had there been none of that, I don’t get holding him outta the game that we needed to win and at the time he was the only positive thing we had going.
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by Johnny_S on Oct 26, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am not sure why the fumble occured, but I am confident that Tomlin is trying to get a handle on them reduce them.
Benching Mendy also shows a coachng consistency, acording to Wexell (you will need to click “more” at the bottom of the page) Sweed has been inactive for the past two games. I think the message to young players on fumbles is clear.
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Oct 26, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look I agree with benching him to punish him. I said in another post he should be benched against the Broncos if he does not show considerable effort/improvement with how he carries the ball.
I just don’t like benching a player when it hurts our chances to win a game that is going on right then. However, if his attitude was poor after the fumble than I have no problem with the bench. Being disrespectful to a coach is a whole different ball game.
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by Johnny_S on Oct 27, 2009 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand your point
that Mendenhall was ripping off some large chunks of yardage during that game, but overall you appear to be contradicting yourself. I guess I just don’t understand how turning the ball over to your opponent hurts our chances of winning? That is exactly what Rashard has done the past two weeks.
We can sit and make excuses for him all day long. He should have been whistled down against the Browns, he was putting forth extra effort against the Vikings, etc., etc. The bottom line is he has put his team in poor situations and taken points off the board late in the past two weeks because he just can’t hang onto the football.
I’d rather have Mewelde Moore make a poor decision to bounce a run outside and lose two yards as opposed to run it up the gut for +1 yard, then to have Mendenhall break off an 8 yard run only to have the defense strip him and get possession of the football on a short field.
Rashard let his team down. Again. Period. He needs to realize that fact and fix his issues with fumbling. If he doesn’t he won’t be playing. RBs who can’t hang on to the rock are worthless. No matter how good the rest of their skill set is.
by King Coebra on Oct 27, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can understand that, but you are also assuming that Mendenhall would have fumbled again had he gone back in. At the same time I am assuming he would not have fumbled had he gone back in. I agree with you guys that a point should be made to Rashard that fumbling the ball is not going to be accepted, I just don’t know if I liked how it went then.
I suppose, as LTSF, said we will have to agree to disagree.
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by Johnny_S on Oct 27, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enuff
He’s got all the necessary tools to succeed in this league. I’m rooting for him to correct this one area of deficiency.
by King Coebra on Oct 27, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand that you “don’t like benching a player when it hurts our chances to win a game that is going on right then.”
Some players respond well to this type of coaching, and some to that type. I think the coaches should do whatever they can to get the “ball control” point across.
Can we agree to disagree on this point?
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Oct 27, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah that works for me
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by Johnny_S on Oct 27, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I was going to mention that in response to the comparison to Bettis and Ward made earlier. After posting my response and on my way to work I thought a better comparison was to Sweed. Both he and Mendy are inexperienced young players with seemingly unlimited potential who need to produce to increase their playing time. Both, to this point in their careers, have dropped the ball and really have nobody but themselves to blame for their limited roles in the offense.
It doesn’t do any good to have a tall, fast wr who frequently gets wide open if he can’t catch the ball. Likewise, it hurts the team to have a complete rb with unlimited potential if he continues hurting the team by turning the ball over during key points in the game.
I hope both players grow up and become productive players. The Steelers invested high draft picks in both of them for a reason. It’s their responsibility to grow and to learn so that they can be trusted with the football during crunch time..
by King Coebra on Oct 27, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just saw the video
Maybe one of the worst calls in league history. He definitely stuck his foot out on purpose while falling to trip Harrison. Another showing that this league loves the Steelers.
Limp and dangling.
by Joe Flaccid on Oct 25, 2009 10:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So you didn't watch the game?
Then why are you talking?
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by Johnny_S on Oct 25, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Watched the whole game
But did not sit down and watch the video till just now.
Limp and dangling.
by Joe Flaccid on Oct 25, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you saw the horrible PI call on Heath
And the blatant missed holding call on the kickoff return. If they “love” us so much, why didn’t they call those?
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by Johnny_S on Oct 25, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK
so the refs gave Min 11 net pts (4 pts from the PI Heath and 7 from the kickoff return) and gave Pitt 14, assuming those INT would not have happened.
That means it would have been a tie game at the end and still changed the situation entirely.
by mjmrad on Oct 25, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why would the INT not count?
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by Johnny_S on Oct 25, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because
Minn wouldn’t have been in a stressful throwing situation, being down 3 – in a tie game, they could play a bit more run/pass mix
by mjmrad on Oct 25, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uhhh now that is a stretch
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by Johnny_S on Oct 25, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, we’ve probably stretch the “what-ifs” pretty heavily – I enjoyed it, though – thank you, I feel much better now…
by mjmrad on Oct 25, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Silly
Playing the what if game is always kind of silly albeit a little fun. I think it is fair to say though that if you are assigning points to ref mistakes, you can only do so to the play itself, trying to predict or assume what would have happened down the road is just plain silly. Not that any of it really matters. Bottom line is the VIkes played well but not well enough.
by DarinS on Oct 25, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aunt Uncle
if my Aunt had balls she’d be my uncle…
When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen
by 5020 on Oct 26, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If your aunt had balls, her moustache would make sense...
…but she’d have to get rid of that black dress.
I would kill everyone in this room for a drop of sweet beer.
- Homer J. Simpson
by Homer J. on Oct 26, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dang!
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Oct 27, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dont worry arguing with Flaccid. He is probably the dumbest person on the Ravens sight, which is saying a lot…
by gimpsta7 on Oct 25, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are 100% right my friend.
Limp and dangling.
by Joe Flaccid on Oct 25, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"You are 100% right my friend."
You’re weird Flaccid but you are quite an agreeable fellow. My guess is you’re either a troll or mildly retarded. Or both. But you’re friendly which is more than we can say for some.
I am just shocked the way the Vikings fans are whining about the refs in this game today. And as usual in most games that the refs “gave to the Steelers” there is actually a Steelers’ touchdown taken off the books with a questionable call. Go figure.
In my opinion this game was a lot like the Superbowl with a tight game and huge defensive scores from the Steelers. The game also featured whining bandwagon fans complaining about things they don’t understand. I guess plays like the ones shown below are total flukes with no talent involved. Steelers defensemen just mistakenly grabbed the ball and fell backward over 50 yards into the endzone twice! We’re so lucky!
Wow that second one is a great pic. Just looking at it for the first time. Haha Favre!
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
by showtime on Oct 26, 2009 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"My guess is you’re either a troll or mildly retarded. Or both."
I appreciate the compliment. Using “mildly” is sweet of you.
You gotta admit however that William Gay got absolutely destroyed by AP in the 4th off that screen. It was like two negative sides of a magnet coming together, but Gay was the one who got knocked back. Just bounced off him.
These guys have no reason to whine. If you go back and watch the Harvin kick return for a TD, you will see maybe the worst hold in history that was not called. Whoever that Viking was, he was literally sideways running with two full hands of Pittsburgh Jersey. Had that been called and the Vikings lost by 17 instead, can you imagine the complaining at that point?
Limp and dangling.
by Joe Flaccid on Oct 26, 2009 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"You gotta admit however that William Gay got absolutely destroyed by AP"
That’s fine and I agree, and you have to admit that it doesn’t matter since the Steelers won. The Vikes can have that and laugh about it. I’ll laugh about Favre getting sacked multiple times, I’ll laugh about no stupid jack in the box sack dance from Jared Allen.
Gay has a sense of humor and he’s gonna need it because the Steelers won’t let him forget about it! At least Gay stayed coherent and didn’t get literally knocked out. I would rather have that happen than what AP did to the Browns. That was WAY worse!
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
by showtime on Oct 26, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree on all that
Eric wright literally got thrown to the side like an unwanted child.
Limp and dangling.
by Joe Flaccid on Oct 26, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ummm
isn’t he?? (and all of the other Brownies except Shaun Rodgers)
by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Oct 26, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Showtime, that picture of Favre MADE MY DAY!!!!
That’s the second best picture of an opposing quarterback in a Steeler game I think I’ve ever seen…..second only to Morrie Berman’s timeless shot of a bleeding Y-A Tittle.
I would kill everyone in this room for a drop of sweet beer.
- Homer J. Simpson
by Homer J. on Oct 26, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
However
There were multiple calls that could have cost the game for the Steelers. I just like saying the league loves you guys so much so that you get all upset.
Limp and dangling.
by Joe Flaccid on Oct 25, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Malor is that you
"Polamalu’s lineage can be traced through several roots. Chuck Norris mated with an Amazon Queen, and on the other side, Tony Hawk mated with Mother Nature. The two children of these spawned and fused in a tantric love session to create Troy Polamalu. The mother however died as he tore through the birth canal with a spin move."
Mechem on the roots of Troy Polamalu
by WVPiratesfan on Oct 25, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
malor won't come on until a ravens win so it couldn't possibly be him...
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
by showtime on Oct 26, 2009 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funny thing is
I haven’t even seen him over at the Beatdown…
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by Johnny_S on Oct 26, 2009 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it might be awhile
if he’s waiting on a Raven win, LOL
by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Oct 26, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just out of curiosity...
How many Seahawk trolls did BTSC get after the SB win a few years ago??
by mjmrad on Oct 25, 2009 10:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I dont think BTSC was around then...
I could be wrong though.
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by Johnny_S on Oct 25, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where is Blitz when you need him
"Polamalu’s lineage can be traced through several roots. Chuck Norris mated with an Amazon Queen, and on the other side, Tony Hawk mated with Mother Nature. The two children of these spawned and fused in a tantric love session to create Troy Polamalu. The mother however died as he tore through the birth canal with a spin move."
Mechem on the roots of Troy Polamalu
by WVPiratesfan on Oct 25, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
site was around.
started week before the SB. There was and still to this day are trolls complaining about that game.
Freel free to email me anytime at behindthesteelcurtain@gmail.com with questions, suggestions, complaints, etc, or to just say what's up. -Michael Bean (Blitz)
by Blitzburgh on Oct 25, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How did I just find out about it this year?
That ain’t fair.
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by Johnny_S on Oct 25, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We found Him and he delivers the goods
But really that is most likely the only time they have ever posted here
"Polamalu’s lineage can be traced through several roots. Chuck Norris mated with an Amazon Queen, and on the other side, Tony Hawk mated with Mother Nature. The two children of these spawned and fused in a tantric love session to create Troy Polamalu. The mother however died as he tore through the birth canal with a spin move."
Mechem on the roots of Troy Polamalu
by WVPiratesfan on Oct 25, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I live in Oregon...
…and people here still talk about how the Steelers robbed their precious Seahawks of a Super Bowl win…
by mjmrad on Oct 25, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We didn’t rob them of a win. We allowed them to lose.
by Varmint on Oct 27, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plenty of bad calls
Plenty of bad calls and bad no calls to go around, in the end they probably evened out, if anything we got the worst of it. Bottom line is we made the plays when we needed to and MN didn’t. That is a fine team and they will win their share and who knows maybe we’ll see each other again this year. I used to live in MN and was fending off text messages most of the game including the “looks like another fourth quarter comeback for Farve” which was rather gleefully answered with a simple -Or not! From what they were all saying, this was one of MN best games of the year, even if it was a loss. We will gladly take a end of the season rematch against a worthy opponent.
by DarinS on Oct 25, 2009 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep
Look on the bright side – with the bye, you guys will be able to enjoy watching us crush the Packers next week. We’ve got some anger built up after today…
by mjmrad on Oct 25, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is how 3 game skids start. been there.
by raven on Oct 25, 2009 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Way to go Steelers. I wanted the Vikes to feel my pain from last week.
by raven on Oct 25, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That will be a good game
To watch. I hear the packer fans are arming themselves with “we’ll never forget you Brent” signs,lol
by DarinS on Oct 25, 2009 11:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think GB will have much of a home field adv
There’ll be TONS of Brett Favre fans there – just wait and see…
by mjmrad on Oct 25, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dugan was trying to trip the guy. He wiffed on his assignment and scissored his legs (oh, stop Mr. Hand). He knew what he was doing. I would have called it.
Did you notice how Ward would have scored a TD on his quick slant IF the refs didn’t call the defensive delay of game. Everyone was up on the line including the safeties. Ward would have been long gone.
Leave it to a Raven alumnus to botch the last minute of a Steelers game. That pass was right at his face BUT considering Brett only had to throw the ball 4 yards with mega time it should have been in his chest.
by raven on Oct 25, 2009 11:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Did you just side with us?
Holy crap raven…I am speechless
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by Johnny_S on Oct 25, 2009 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’m sarcastic but not supid. i haven’t said a negative word about pitt since you signed the adoption papers and became our daddy. now can you get me another binky i dropped mine under the coach and got dog hair all over it.
by raven on Oct 25, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hahaha
That’s good stuff.
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by Johnny_S on Oct 25, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mcgahee needs a new bottle while your at it. His got smashed during our last game at Heinz.
I can’t even start to really get up for the Ravens at this point. It seems everything backfires on us. Every team we need to lose-wins. Every big game we almost win-we lose. If I hung on there roller coaster ways I’d go nuts. We’re the Chicago Cubs of football. We compete, have some great players but always come up short.
by raven on Oct 25, 2009 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chicago Cubs of football would be Buffalo, right? At least you haven’t lost 4 superbowls in a row and not been back since.
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by Johnny_S on Oct 26, 2009 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh another terrible call
on the first Minny scoring drive on a crucial third down, Phil Loadholt jumped about a second before the snap count, it was inexplicably not called.
Stuff happens. The vikings had every chance to win this game and did not. The Steelers barely managed to hold on – and almost gave it away with stupid plays -but they didn’t. In the end that’s all that counts.
by SteelerBuddha on Oct 25, 2009 11:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just like the way your entire D blocks on a INT or fumble recovery- You have team wins. I know the announcers pointed that out a million times but it’s true.
Can someone send me a vial of sink water (SINK water) from the bathroom at Heinz Field. I heard it cures the Swine Flu and terminal illnesses.
by raven on Oct 25, 2009 11:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Only when the Vial is wrapped in a Terrible Towel to keep it from breaking
"Polamalu’s lineage can be traced through several roots. Chuck Norris mated with an Amazon Queen, and on the other side, Tony Hawk mated with Mother Nature. The two children of these spawned and fused in a tantric love session to create Troy Polamalu. The mother however died as he tore through the birth canal with a spin move."
Mechem on the roots of Troy Polamalu
by WVPiratesfan on Oct 25, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If that’s what it takes…better than the dented/broken cardboard boxes with shattered vials of possible infectious disease samples that 3rd world nations send to the CDC in Atlanta….I read Hot Zone. Great book.
by raven on Oct 25, 2009 11:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I can’t stand the copycat towel waving around the league. The Ravens hand out white Raven towels in the playoffs but I refuse to wave it. I think we should get mini pennants instead….when/if we ever get a home playoff game.
by raven on Oct 26, 2009 12:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Geez, you're kidding me...right?
Actually, I just was watching the NFL Network and both Deion Sanders and Steve Mariucci completely agreed with the tripping call.
Maybe Mike Pereira will discuss this in this “Official Review” segment, who knows? But according to Deion and Mooch (neither one of which are afraid to call out the refs if they think it is a bad call) the tripping call was made becuase he kicked out his legs. WIthout that, it is a body block. But when he kicks out his legs as he goes down, it is a trip, and will be called every time.
As for the “Game changing fourth quarter” argument, I’m not a big fan. If something is a penalty in the first quarter, it needs to be a penalty in the fourth.
Oh, and by the way, feel free to protect your quarterback so he doesn’t get the ball stripped on the next play…
My point is that the refs did not wave off the touchdown and then give the ball to Pittsburgh at the spot of the foul. They gave it back to the Vikings who then failed to pass protect and lost the ball. That is not the ref’s fault. Talk to your Offensive line.
If the Vikings had manafged to strip the ball after the “passing interference” call on Miller, and run it back for a TD, it would have been the same point swing.
But they didn’t. Instead, Pittsburgh converted a field goal and the Vikings lost the ball to the Pittsburgh defense and gave up seven.
The Vikings were beat by the Steelers — not the refs. If you are going to be a championship team, you need to learn to accept responsibility for your own actions.
Quit whining about it already. Your team is 6-1 with a real good shot at the playoffs.
by MarkJoel66 on Oct 26, 2009 8:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
whatever.
call the waaahhhhhmbulance. you can join mike holmgren on the ride to the crybaby convalescent center. i’ve been a steelers fan for far too long to see these complaints as anything but sour grapes. countless tds taken away by bad calls. james harrison is held every game. i don’t care. i know my team is good enough to win every game and when they don’t, it’s usually because they didn’t make the plays they needed to, and the other team did. guess what happened to the vikings on sunday?
i seriously hope for your team’s sake that they weren’t sitting in the locker room after the game complaining about the refs when there were obvious breakdowns that lead to the loss. focus on fixing those problems, you’ll be fine. focus on the guys in the stripes, you won’t.
move to baltimore if you want to have that loser attitude.
by steely mcballs on Oct 26, 2009 8:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Crab cakes and whine baby. It’s what we do but now we import our crab from Indonesia because we screwed up the Chesapeake…Oh wait, Pennsylvania screwed up our bay with chemical plants and glowing cows. It’s your fault. Whaaaaa. See, we can’t help it.
You’ll appreciate this too-
The film Cry Baby was filmed in Baltimore about Baltimore. Thanks John Waters. Whaaaaa.
by raven on Oct 28, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Raven and MarkJoel are RIGHT about the trip....
…and so were the refs and Neon Deion.
Dugan whiffed on Deebo so badly I thought I was watching Spaeth. AND after Dugan whiffed, he stuck out and stuck up his legs. The refs call that. And if you do in on the outside against an OL who has a clear shot at the QB, they will call it every time.
When he extended himself - in open space — in clear sight of the refs — after badly missing a block — he was toast.
I would kill everyone in this room for a drop of sweet beer.
- Homer J. Simpson
by Homer J. on Oct 26, 2009 8:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And...
What was with Dugan pushing that ref down? Is he a thug? Shouldn’t he be playing for Baltimore?
by Concomitandt on Oct 26, 2009 9:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we haven’t pushed anyone down in the DB backfield all year. dugan would be a misfit.
by raven on Oct 28, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here is a Terrible Towel...
…for you to cry in. There is no reason to “make your case that the Steelers would have won anyway”. They did win. You have to make the case that somehow the refereeing was so lopsided that it somehow cost the Vikes the game. You didn’t. Winners don’t complain about one marginal call that didn’t decide the game. They find a way to overcome mistakes that they make and refs make. That’s why the Steelers won despite the call on Heath, despite the refs swallowing their flag on the hold on Percy’s kickoff return, despite Loadholt’s illegal motion and so forth.
I hope your Vikes have more backbone than you do, because if they’re just going to whine about calls they won’t make it very far in this league.
by Blackadar on Oct 26, 2009 9:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You can't whine ...
and be classy at the same time.
by tenthmtnman on Oct 26, 2009 10:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lol you're a joke
1) tripping call? that was the definition of a leg whip. illegal and dangerous. maybe because you’re a fan of an nfc team, you’re used to the atrocious announcers on fox and they’re dumb opinions about things, but we regular watchers of abc know better
2) you don’t like that your td got called back? how about holmes td called back because YOU’RE defender ran into miller and he only protected himself by lowering his shoulder. he didnt run outta his way to hit your db or push out his hands. his route just happened to take him into your also moving player.
3) you know havin’s (i think it was harvin) end around run for 10+ yards. well if you check the replay favre did his classic cheap shot of trying to take out a player’s ankles. not only is it a really dangerous move for our player, he has been flagged and fined for it repeatedly. the awesome fox announcers didnt happen to see that either.
the officiating wasnt great yesterday. i thought the defensive delay of game was a weird call against your team (which i think we picked up the first down away by the time they whistled the play dead because they took a long time to do it). but the calls evened out , we out played you and we deserved the win.
by t1mmy10 on Oct 26, 2009 11:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow...
you’re your
maybe i should go back to 2nd grade
by t1mmy10 on Oct 26, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually...
… you were right the first time…
It is: You’re a joke…
You’re = You Are… contraction
Your = possessive as in, owned by you. ie: “Your post was fine before you corrected it…”
by MarkJoel66 on Oct 26, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
-1
how about holmes td called back because YOU’RE defender ran into miller and he only protected himself by lowering his shoulder
maybe you should read the entire post next time :-P
by t1mmy10 on Oct 26, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahhh
well i would but the lack of capitalization makes my head hurt, so i stopped at the title
;-)
by MarkJoel66 on Oct 27, 2009 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This thread brings to mind several famous NFL quotes
“When you win say nothing. When you lose say less.” by Paul Brown and also
“Winners never whine” by Vince Lombardi
by King Coebra on Oct 27, 2009 12:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
most of us will agree
that the tripping call was bs…
And there may have been holding on the kick return………and Heath Miller’s offensive pass interference )which erased a TD) was questionable at best but niether of them compare to the tripping….it was a big momentum change..
however, i do think its worth noting both the offensive pass interference and Rashard’s fumble. I’ve seen a lot of Viking fans say the refs gave us this one of the Vikes handed it way, to some degree that is true obviously but its important to remember that the offensive pass interference and that fumble robbed us of two TDs. So its not like we didn’t give the Vikes a break too.
All that being said though, we we’re lucky to win that one. But if we are talking about “should have” wins then we would be 6-1 right now….
by shleeve on Oct 27, 2009 2:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
who set the tone for this game? troy. the first 3rd down play for the vikes he came up and banged it out of the receivers hands. at that point, i knew pitt had the game. whaaa.
by raven on Oct 28, 2009 12:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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