Reed ... WTF?
by GMSteel on Oct 26, 2009 3:52 PM EDT
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O.K.granted Reed didn't miss any field goals this week, but he still cost us 6 points. What the hell kind of tackle was that on harvin's return? Is Sepulveda able to perform kick-offs? For someone thats in his contract year, he's not really showing he wants to stick around. why can't reed hit like sepulveda? Anyone know how to send this lnk to reed? http://www.prepticket.com/video/school/baylor--university/id/823292:Video:99
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My thought exactly!
Reed kind of pranced over and limp wrist slapped PH. I kept watching the replay stunned that he didn’t tackle that guy! If only PH would have resembled a paper towel dispenser coming down the field, Reed would have mauled him!
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by Cdsumm on Oct 26, 2009 4:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Reed's
not paid to tackle returners. If they get back to him, you can only hope the kicker trips them up somehow. He is paid to kick the ball to the endzone and he’s not doing that. His poor kick offs put the coverage unit under tremendous pressure to tackle a fast ball carrier with a 10 yard head start while being blocked.
by qwikdoc on Oct 26, 2009 4:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Beg to differ with you..
His job isn’t finished until the whistle blows and the defense comes out on the field. It was a lousy excuse for a half-hearted attempt to bring a receiver down. It is his job to tackle a receiver if necessary. Just like it’s Ward’s job to clean the clock of anyone he needs to block. Reed needs to get his shit together. I’m running out of excuses for him.
by 1BlkGldFan on Oct 26, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree it was a pathetic attempt at a tackle and I’m quickly losing faith in Reed due to his poor KO but the fact remains, he is not there to tackle the return man. They could train a DB or RB or LB to kick off if they needed another tackler. Come to think of it, why don’t they? They certainly wouldn’t kick the ball any shorter than Reed.
by qwikdoc on Oct 26, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No I think 1BlkGldFan is right
Your kicker has to be able to make a play in that situation. Even if, as I said before, its just forcing him back toward the middle or launching his body at Harvin’s legs. You don’t want your kicker to have to make a play, but sometimes it is necessary. And it is his requirement to make that play. What he did could not be defined as a football play. Hell, it could not even be defined as a display of athleticism. He looked like an uncoordinated child trying to grab a greased up watermelon. It was pathetic.
I don’t want to hear any argument about size either, because I have tackled guys that weight 30 pounds more than me in pick up football before.
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by Johnny_S on Oct 26, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hopefully those guys 30lbs heavier weren’t twice as fast as you:)
by qwikdoc on Oct 26, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not all his fault however..
I would liked to have seen just a smidge more effort on his part considering we just took any momentum the Vikes had and squashed it like a grape just the play before. Pathetic is the perfect word Johnny S.
When the tailgate drops, the BS stops. Shut up and play!
by 1BlkGldFan on Oct 26, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't matter who is faster
When you have your hands on them
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by Johnny_S on Oct 26, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeff Reed got his contract because he can make field goals in Hienz field better than other kickers.
Not on his tackling prowess.
He got beat silly at a side note to his job by one of the better kick returners in the game.
Returners who get tackled by the kicker get laughed at. There’s a reason for that.
by Phantaskippy on Oct 27, 2009 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn’t matter. Anyone who is not a panzy can slow a guy up or at least push them to the middle of the field.
At the very least you launch your body at their legs. It’s not that difficult.
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by Johnny_S on Oct 27, 2009 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Sorry. Not in my job description."
IMHO I can’t buy that. Him not taking out the return man isn’t the issue (in my eyes) my complaint is his lack of effort to even TRY to take him out.
When the tailgate drops, the BS stops. Shut up and play!
by 1BlkGldFan on Oct 27, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no argument there. His effort was as pathetic as his KO’s to the 15 yrd line are. You can’t expect a kicker to be able to make the tackle on a burner like Harvin, especially when he’s at full speed. I much prefer that the coverage do their jobs so we don’t have to rely on Miss Reed.
by qwikdoc on Oct 27, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right there is the real problem. Reed’s kick-offs are pathetic. The guy is either nursing a nagging injury, did no off season work, or he’s just losing it.
Gary Anderson, Norm Johnson, those guys were great kickers and I don’t see then making those tackles.
Everyone get’s embarrassed at some point by someone that shifty, Reed got embarrassed badly, I’m not going to kill the guy for it. His kick-offs, that’s a different story.
But you also have to look at the Ravens, how many games have they lost on their kicker? They could end up missing the playoffs because their kicker can’t make field goals. You have to have a better option before you let a kicker go. Reed has spoiled us, Heinz field is still hard to kick in.
by Phantaskippy on Oct 27, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You couldn't tackle a girl scout delivering a box of thin mints
by Dr Del on Oct 26, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully he doesn’t engage in girl-scout-tackling at all.
by gcn on Oct 27, 2009 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Save the thin mints!!
When the tailgate drops, the BS stops. Shut up and play!
by 1BlkGldFan on Oct 27, 2009 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awwwww!
somebody needs a hug…
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-Ralph Wiggum
by SteelFever on Oct 27, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know what you do in your free time, but I do not tackle little 8 year old girls trying to sell cookies for a good cause. Sounds like you have some deep issues to me.
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by Johnny_S on Oct 27, 2009 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Samoas are DELICIOUS! I'll tackle a girl scout for a box of those!
The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."
-George Carlin
by Cdsumm on Oct 27, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My wife was a girl scout. . . and I like thin mints.
by Phantaskippy on Oct 27, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
They don’t like you here either del!
You’re a pathetic troll! Stay off of Daily Norseman
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 28, 2009 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Give it a rest bud
Game is over, go look toward your Green Bay game.
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by Johnny_S on Oct 28, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough
I don’t like loud mouthed trolls on DN anymore than you like them on BTSC. That “Dr” Del idiot needs to stay on his own board.
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?" -Joe Kapp
by less cowbell, more 'neau on Oct 28, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You would think...
That after all his shenanigens in the last week and a half he would be looking for any way to prove to his teammates he still wanted to be a Steeler in the future. That he would recognize the facts, that his actions have bothered a few people in the front office and probably on the team as well, and that he needed to do the little extras to make it up to his team.
When you have a returner coming right at you, and it’s either your tackle or six the other way, that is story book. That’s the oppurtunity he should have been salivating at getting. Don’t get me wrong, it’s extremely difficult for any kicker to tackle any returner in open field, so it’s not an expected play, in my opinion. But you have to make a better effort then a shove in the general direction of out of bounds. Effort Skippy… effort.
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-Coach Tomlin
by NYSteelersFan4 on Oct 26, 2009 4:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Reed "WTF"?
Way To Flail…at Harvin?
Working To (be) Fired?
Was Too [expletive]ed…up to make the tackle?
Won’t Tackle (for) Free…“Pay me”?
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by Johnny_S on Oct 26, 2009 4:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dude, Sepulveda is my KOS in every Madden Franchise I play (Fantasy Draft of course).
It’s like having a linebacker out there on kick coverage, which is what he used to play in high school.
The problem is, I am pretty sure he became a punter because of back issues, not because he couldn’t perform at the NFL level at LB.
I am willing to bet that he doesn’t do kick-offs because of his back.
by Bjorno on Oct 26, 2009 6:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nono.. He had knee issues for your team. I am talking about in high school/college.
Nono.. He had knee issues for your team. I am talking about in high school/college.He was a walk-on at Baylor as a Linebacker, red-shirted as a freshman and told by Coach Morriss that he had NFL potential, there is a reason he switched to punting in college.
Nono.. He had knee issues for your team. I am talking about in high school/college.He was a walk-on at Baylor as a Linebacker, red-shirted as a freshman and told by Coach Morriss that he had NFL potential, there is a reason he switched to punting in college.Maybe it was his knee, but I am pretty sure I read somewhere that it was a back issue that made him change from LB to P at Baylor.
by Bjorno on Oct 27, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow… what the heck happened on that post.
I swear, I only typed it once, and somehow it came out three times.
Weird.
by Bjorno on Oct 27, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where is Norm Johnson when you need him?!
by Steel in FL on Oct 26, 2009 6:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I dont eeally like cussing but,
For someone who has this off the field reputation for being a tough-guy. I thought Jeff was quite the bitch on that tackle.
Please for give me Blitz and the entire BTCC family.
by C-Mac on Oct 26, 2009 11:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He should have assumed a fighting stance.
by Bjorno on Oct 27, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For someone who has this off the field reputation for being a tough-guy
I’m not sure what you consider tough, but I’m not a paper towel dispenser, so I’m not too worried about this guy in a fight.
'I’ve learned to become a flat-liner. There’s a lot out there that’ll make your heart jump if you allow it."
-Coach Tomlin
by NYSteelersFan4 on Oct 27, 2009 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Although...
He may make me laugh myself unconscious with his seemingly limitless amount of kissy faces.
'I’ve learned to become a flat-liner. There’s a lot out there that’ll make your heart jump if you allow it."
-Coach Tomlin
by NYSteelersFan4 on Oct 27, 2009 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hes worth it
Honestly I’ll spare him a shitty tackle and a couple arrests for as amusing as he is, and as money as he is in our stadium.
Kickers who are good at Heinz dont grow on trees.
I mean come on, this guy IS entertaining…
by Mechem on Oct 27, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he's gonna play defense like that, he should let his fingernails grow....
…and simply scratch the return man’s eyes out.
I would kill everyone in this room for a drop of sweet beer.
- Homer J. Simpson
by Homer J. on Oct 27, 2009 12:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
All I have to say is "Make the tackle!"
It would be nice to have the allotted 11 cover instead of 10. I don’t care if you are a kicker. It’s not like he’s a little girl.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Oct 27, 2009 9:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mitchburger
Would have made that play!
(Then followed it up with a 14 yard punt.)
"We'll continue to search for the ceiling"
by jacksteel on Oct 27, 2009 10:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How many actual returns did Mitch give up? A 24 yard shank out of bounds isn’t returnable, a punt that goes 20 yards up and 10 feet forward isn’t returnable. That one where he didn’t get the punt to the los? Or was that the other guy. . .
by Phantaskippy on Oct 27, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reed just punched his ticket
out of town with that display. That chump has gotten waaaay too full of himself over the past couple of years. I think that as fans, we have gotten overly excited about the dude in the first place. Most of that being a result of our prior kicker sucking so badly he got his picture next to suck in Websters.
Fact of the matter is Reed can and, I now believe, will be replaced. The FO is not going to pay a kicker what Reed is looking for and has proven this year, on and off the field, that he is not worth.
The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games
by chewiesteeler on Oct 27, 2009 11:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Glad to see you guys made it back safely
We were on the 10 yard line of the end zone the scored all of their TDs in. I also had the pelasure displeasure of being right there to see the Mendy fumble.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Oct 27, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a pleasure to meet you and your boy
I cannot believe how that game unfolded. By far the most exciting game I have ever witnessed in person. Certainly helped that they managed to hang on for the win.
The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games
by chewiesteeler on Oct 27, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definately an awesome game!
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Oct 27, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
definitely
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Oct 27, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can and will by who prytell?
Have anybody in mind… Somebody with cold weather shit field windy outdoor kicking conditions?
Lets see the list. You cant get rid of a guy before you have a replacement. We’ve done that before and it has hurt us, see removal of KR Randle El and subsequent miserable KR season.
by Mechem on Oct 27, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or, you know, look at the Ravens.
by Phantaskippy on Oct 27, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reed was picked up off the street,
it can happen again. I saw potential in Piotr Czech (sp) who had a much better leg on kickoffs. I do not have a list of others. But, if I was the Steeler’s personnel man, you can bet I’d be getting one ready, as I’m sure he already is. Reed is a headache.
The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games
by chewiesteeler on Oct 28, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Skippy, but he needed to tackle or at least make a better attempt. PERIOD.
He’s also been averaging KOs at about the 10 yard line right? We at least need em inside the 5 dammit. Come on Skippy! Show us the goods and maybe, just maybe we let you hang around. Jeez.
by SteelersFnRule on Oct 27, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Reed didn't cost us 6 points
there were 11 Steelers on the field………can’t blame it on the only guy who gets paid for his legs.
by shleeve on Oct 27, 2009 2:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it looked to me
that Reed did slow harvin down, and caused him to change direction a little bit, maybe we could talk about the other two STers who ran right past as Reed was slowing him down, I think Johnson was one of them if I recall.
by indianasteelers on Oct 27, 2009 3:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Reed did his job( besides the KO itself )
his job is to ‘steer’ the returner too the sideline, not make the tackle. he slowed him and forced him to the sideline where there were 2 defenders past Reed that were going to the sideline and over pursued the play and let Harvin cut it back too the middle. if Johnson (85) stops and forces him to continue down the sideline the other defender makes the play. Reed needs to work on the depth of his KO, not his tackling.
by 1STstate bucco on Oct 29, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what was he thinkin.'
i’m not toooooo big on defending reed but i thought he probably was thinking that he would be made to look foolish if he tried to form tackle such speed and aji;ity so he was better tryin just a disruptive push into the sideline,,,,,but he got the sideline location wrong…….where is piotr da polack now,,,,,,i thought he much stronger leg than his long thin frame would suggest,,,,,and i thought his kicks were more a straight line than the usual soccer style parabola,,,,,,,,did he get picked up/ i thought him a consideration till rememering reed made piortr moot
by steelswine on Oct 29, 2009 1:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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