Mendenhall
by dawgs144 on Oct 26, 2009 8:45 PM EDT
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PrintIf I missed the information and it's already posted here somewhere then my bad. I haven't see it yet, so I'm asking for some information in case anyone else did catch this.
It's pretty obvious that Coach T was "mildly" upset at Rashard for the dive that caused the fumble. I have to admit that watching the run on TV, I did stop cheering long enough to ask out loud, "what just happened." It seemed to me that he was a little far from the goal line to be thinking of diving over the defenders. And guess what? He was WAY short, and the fumble to boot.
Anyhow, I'm not the only one to question that play. It was the last we saw of Rashard for the game, as our savior Mewelde took over from that point on. Pretty obvious that Rashard sat for being a bonehead. I did see a comment from Coach T saying that Rashard was still the starter, but I haven't see anything else - and I must have missed the press conference - where an explanation was given for Rashard to not go back into the game.
Anyone got something for me? Thanks....
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Coach basically said
that MM is a guy we can trust with the ball in those situations. No worries, Rashard will be the starter in Denver.
by Juan da Baptist on Oct 26, 2009 9:45 PM EDT reply actions
All I can say
is that maybe Coach Tomlin is the one being the BONEHEAD. If he continues to throw the ball at this ridiculous pace instead of feeding it to his horse in Mendenhall then teams are going to time and time and time again come from behind and catch the Steelers….how do you milk a game? YOU RUN THE BALL!!!!
and…….as far as trusting someone in certain situations…..it was TOMLIN who in his first year in the NFL during a playoff game against the Jags went for a 2 pt conversion with over 9 min left in the game ………FROM…………the TWELVE and a HALF yard line!! can anyone explain that to me? of course you can’t………because it’s retarded…….Mike Tomlin’s stradegy is going to get the Steelers beat if he continues to be hard headed. How many times did Bill Cower win once he got a 10 point lead? Tomlin’s stradegy is to blow 10 point leads.
by baabaablacksheep on Oct 27, 2009 2:58 AM EDT reply actions
Can we do waves on comments?
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
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'I’ve learned to become a flat-liner. There’s a lot out there that’ll make your heart jump if you allow it."
-Coach Tomlin
by NYSteelersFan4 on Oct 27, 2009 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
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"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
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Nice to read you this morning Arn, folks seem to get a bit snippy when you are away.
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Oct 27, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
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"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
by PixburghArn on Oct 27, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
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"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
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thx Pix, never thought I would see this on a Steeler site.
“pimp in distress”
by SteelBuckeye on Oct 27, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
WOHIO?
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Cinco de Mayo
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Oct 28, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Feliz Navidad
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Carnaval
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Oct 29, 2009 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Mardi Gras
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
+1 Funniest comment I read all day
Oh, you’re serious?
You know the offensive coordinate, Bruce Arians? Yeah, it’s his job to call the plays, not Tomlin.
You also realize that Tomlin lead us to a Superbowl in only his second year, being the youngest coach to do so.
Mike Tomlin’s stradegy is going to get the Steelers beat if he continues to be hard headed
Huh? Mike Tomlin’s record since he has been here is 30-13, being 3-1 in the playoffs. He has made it to the playoffs every year as a coach. You are right though, he is “retarded”.
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by John Stephens on Oct 27, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Um, not the answer I was looking for.
I’ll take the other side of the argument here, I’m a big fan of Coach T. He’s done a terrific job as far as I’m concerned. I’m not sure I see how you can get on him coming off the Super Bowl win, and 5-2 at the break which is (tied for) first place.
I’d like to see more running also; however, look at how well the passing game is doing, so I’m not going to complain that much.
Either way, I was just looking for Coach T’s comments after the game, I didn’t want to open this can of worms.
We’re winning, be happy already.
I wonder...
How many people who frequent this site even know who re is anymore? I do.
'I’ve learned to become a flat-liner. There’s a lot out there that’ll make your heart jump if you allow it."
-Coach Tomlin
by NYSteelersFan4 on Oct 27, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Help us out then
For those who don’t know what you mean about re.
I like watching your posts worldtrip, you see to have a lot in common with our friend MaLoR…bringing out the best in people. That comment the other day about kidnapping Bubby was pretty funny….
Just can't agree with you.
On EVERY point.
Hard to imagine Tomlin with the Steelers braintrust sitting down to a meeting and going over a powerpoint on how they plan on blowing a lead.
What happened with Cowher happened with Cowher.
The example you gave for Tomlin was one call from the mans’ very first year of head coaching in the NFL. Not to mention, he was at the time the youngest head coach in the league, to boot. Not to mention, we won the Super Bowl after he made that play call. So, I think he’s on course for doing, oh, good things. Let the guy gro up, he’s younger than some oef us in this forum!
"If I could start my life all over again, I would be a professional football player and you damn well better believe I would be a Pittsburgh Steeler." -- #58
Give the ball to a known fumbler
or put the ball in the hands of your best player? The sensible person would do the latter, but we’re not all sensible are we?
by StoneColdSteel on Oct 27, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
why did he try to dive over the pile at the 5? Diving head first means you have to stretch your arms out for momentum and to protect your head when landing. Ok when diving over the goal line, but the 5? It wasn’t even for a first down. He’ll correct that and hopefully his habit of spinning too before he gets his scapula broken again
The only thing
I want to see differently out of Rashard Mendenhall’s repertoire is to protect the ball better. He has shown speed, power, burst, elusiveness, good hands, and solid pass blocking. What he hasn’t shown YET is the ability to protect the football and finish off games. IF he can correct his issue with fumblitis he has a chance to become an elite back because it does appear that he has the complete package when it comes to his skill set as a RB.
+1
Loved one writer saying Rashard holds the ball out like a butcher holds out a flank steak.
"If I could start my life all over again, I would be a professional football player and you damn well better believe I would be a Pittsburgh Steeler." -- #58
Get Low
I think once he starts getting lower to the ground, he will be an awesome back. From what I have seen, he runs to upright.
by SteelCityDefense on Oct 27, 2009 12:57 PM EDT reply actions
He will learn quickly
That some of things he could get away with in college, he simply can’t in NFL. In addition to special teams, I would hope that a good amount of focus in put on protecting the football during the bye week. I agree he needs to get lower and he needs to bring the ball in tight instead of flapping is arm when he runs. The spinning doesn’t bother me that much as usually he gets extra yards from it. He’ll get popped hard a couple times coming out of his spin and will slowly do it less and less.
I had concerns about Mendy
but with every game it becomes more apparent that this kid, barring injury, is going to be a very good back in this league. He needs to run a little lower, finish plays a little harder (more attacking, less spinning), and hold on to the football. Thes are things all young players have to work on. He may already be a better back than Willie ever was, he blocks like a Steeler and he’s got hands.
As for Coach T. any criticism of Tomlin is nothing more than nit picking.
by Juan da Baptist on Oct 27, 2009 2:02 PM EDT reply actions
i agree
that Mendenhall is definitely the man going forward, and i know he shouldnt be diving for an extra yard there, however I like the fact that he is trying for extra yardage in the redzone. If Santonio had fumbled when he was flapping the ball around on his long run in the 4th, we would be talking about him instead.
by indianasteelers on Oct 27, 2009 3:11 PM EDT reply actions
I have a couple thoughtages
First of all, why not more FWP? He seemed ok but was only in for two plays and got a cheap up the gut two yarder.
Secondly, this fumble doesn’t really concern me. It wasnt a mental thing, or a form thing. It was just dumb. You dont need to dolphin dive for one yard unless you are in fact at the goal line.
He just was being a little stupid is all. Nothing you can just say “dont do again.”
And I really dont fault him much for last weeks fumble so all in all its not that bad of a situation.
I love FWP but Mendy is looking good and I think he will continue to develop with the carries. His burst around end when we sealed the corner on a couple of running plays was reminiscent of pre-injury Willie. I say sprinkle willie in slowly while his foot heals. We may need him full time later in the year if Mendy goes down
I tend to agree with you
It isn’t like most times when you think a back has the fumbles. Last week was a weird play and the dolphin dive was indeed just a bonehead play that can be corrected with a don’t do that again. I hope this is not the case but I had to wonder if he thought he was diving over the goal line versus the 5yd. line. I still have to tell myself this was only his 4th start so I will cut him a little slack. Willie can still help out this year but he is not the same FWP. I think if Mendy had 20-25 touches the last two games he easily gets a hondo each game I think it is fair to expect an explosion out of the run game in the second half of the season.
Yeah
I agree FWP’s having a bad year. Probably his last year IMO. Shame.
But you gotta try to give him more than 1 carry.
He ripped off some good runs in the Browns game before the fumble.
Moore is though, the only guy I’d trust 100% with the rock not to put it on the ground so I dont really question him being put in there. Just saying FWP isnt a geriatric quadriplegic either.
Let's face it
Fast Willie just ain’t the same anymore. We should give him some carries to spell Mendy, but he just isn’t effective anymore.
by StoneColdSteel on Oct 27, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Haven’t seen much of FWP this season, but from what I’ve seen he’s looked downright bad. He’s a speed guy who isn’t hitting the hwole with speed, he seems scared of what’s ahead of him, he’s not putting his head down and running the football. Mendy seems to be doing the little things right. He just needs to tuck the ball in and he’ll do fine
Parker could have scored
It looked like on FWP only run, the play just before Holmes TD catch that was called back, looked like Parker missed a huge hole by hesitating then staying to the outside. Looked to me like if he would have stepped right and hit it hard he had a big hole that would have at very least carried him inside the five, maybe into end zone. Anyone else see that?
"More than 70 percent of putts left short do not go in."
Yes indeed
He had a guaranteed first down if not a TD. Instead he ran with blinders on and tackled himself by running into his teammate for no yards.
by King Coebra on Oct 28, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
That's what lead to the post...
It was dumb and Coach T doesn’t usually stand for that. As DarinS says:
I hope this is not the case but I had to wonder if he thought he was diving over the goal line versus the 5yd. line.
Overall I’m pretty impressed with Mendy. Just would like him to be a little more careful with that rock….
Why he dove
I read somewhere that he saw the 5 yard line through the pile and thought it was the goal line. I guess I believe that with the way he dove. It kind of looked that way.
I have to believe someone made that up, and that Mendy has no problem differentiating between the goal and 5 yard lines.
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Oct 28, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
right on
that would speak of a lack of focus and awareness. I’d be more disappointed in him if it were true
I was thinking of the 5 yard line being green on both sides, and at Heinz field, the end zone is gold
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Oct 31, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
rocket rashard
( name stolen from one of you)
come on, the coach made a wise decision and a small teaching point,,,,,,,i’ll not critisize rocket rashards irrational exuberance thats made him a good ,goin’ on great asset now,,,,,,when during preseason i questioned his work ethics,,intestinal fortitude or lack of talent. he’s seen and bought into the light……coach just gave him a lesson review on fumbling , and dependability in the nfl,
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