Is Detroit a gimme?
by euwolfie on Oct 7, 2009 9:57 PM EDT
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PrintBeen looking at some Lions tape. This is not last year's version of hapless pussycats. Do not let their record fool you. Their schedule to date has been every bit as tough, or tougher, than Steelers' (at NO 4-0, MINN 4-0, WASH 2-2, at CHI 3-1)) and they have played some good football against some good football teams.
If anybody is figuring this is one of those easy games that automatically goes in win column, I'm here hoping that person is not wearing a uniform on Sunday.
Steelers did not lose a single "gimme" game last year. And with 2-2 start, can't afford to this year either.
In the hangover year, I remember the lowest point for me was when they lost to Oakland. Listening to the last few minutes driving home from golf course with an a**hole buddy who hates Steelers. Intercepted at the goal line, 100 yard Raider TD. Laughter from the passenger seat, snide laughter.
Do not ever want to be there again. Ever.
Point is, this is the game where we find out if Steelers have hangover or if they have the fire. What kind of intensity can they bring to a "low fruit" game like this. A game where all the gamblers, the professional yappers, and the fans are going to give it to them. Yeah, I hear it, "Tomlin won't let them..." Well, Tomlin isn't strapping on the pads.
I say this is exactly the kind of game we find out if this team can get to 11 or 12 wins and the playoffs. If Troy can play, he plays. If Parker can play, he plays. None of this taking the week off because we've hit a soft spot on the schedule.
My laughing buddy was mad at me because I wouldn't give him a putt. Okay, it was just a 2 1/2 footer, maybe less. But it was a little downhill, a left to right break. He thought it was a gimme, left his putter head open, and missed it. A**hole.
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No and anyone who says yes should be smacked
Weren’t Chicago and Cincy supposed to be gimme games, there were an aweful comments that said they were and look what happened. NFL= no gimme games. It is certainly a game we should win but nothing is for sure.
"Should win" games
have historically been the toughest for the Steelers.
How many of these “gimme” games did we see go down the tubes during the Cowher era? Quite a few as i recall. The kinds of games really can be a big problem if the Steelers would lose.
Provided the team goes in totally prepared and playing hard-nosed football it should be a W.
Should.
Mainly under Cowher
I think unlike Cowher Tomlin is better at preventing us from play down to the opponents level. He will have them ready.
+1
So far we haven’t noticed the Steelers coming out flat in the Tomlin era like they always seemed to for Cowher…
'cept in the first year of the new regime . . .
. . . remember that Jets game? And also the Broncos??
by sylvansteeler on Oct 8, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
nope..
…no such thing as a gimme on the road in the NFL
Larry Foote and company will be coming out to slay the giant. They lose and nobody cares, they talk about the Steelers getting a win and how they did it, nothing about Detroit.
Detroit already go the monkey off their back, no more nerves and trying to hard to break the streak.
They win, and they sent a message to the world. Last seasons champs beaten by last seasons chumps, we are looking at a team with nothing to lose, and that’s a bad thing.
We are also looking at a team we are way better than. but if we don’t play a good game, they will jump on us.
I don't know, but I'm thinking of going
3 1/2 hour drive. And tickets in the lower endzone are 71.50 on StubHub and that includes All-U-Can-Eat wristbands! All You can eat is worth at least 25 dollars itself.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
I hate "low fruit games"
the price is rite. im about 4 hrs away myself. I just hope tthe bracelet isnt rfid.
is Perenialness a word? cuz if so, thats what the stillers got. perenialness
by Steelchamps !! on Oct 8, 2009 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions
heck if the crowd stays like it has been they might just have to give some of the food away anyways
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
All you can eat at a football game? That’s incredible! Too bad it’s not all you drink though.
breathe in deep feel your heart beat, just to know that life's worth livin'. feel your feet on the earth, better love it while it's still here spinnin'.
by NoCal-SteelCity on Oct 8, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
It is all you can drink.....soft drinks
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
SUGAR HIGH!
" I’m glad we play Pitt twice, and not Tenn this year." - Salty Browns Fan.
by John Stephens on Oct 8, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Reminds me of this...
Not Steeler related, but on topic (all you can drink). I think this is the kind of drink limitations the NFL should adopt.
by NYSteelersFan4 on Oct 8, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
They at least need to limit drinks at the Black Hole
Raiders fans are rowdy enough as it is, but if you add in drunk-baggery, you get batteries thrown at you (if you’re the Chargers)
"My cat's breath smells like cat food!"
-Ralph Wiggum
Hopefully they aren't car batteries
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
If I recall
they were an amalgam of AA, AAA, C, and 9 volts…
"My cat's breath smells like cat food!"
-Ralph Wiggum
No D's huh? nobody wants to unload their hardware
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Even so
there’s something inherently wrong about a grown man dressing up like an extra from the second Mad Max movie, gettin sauced and going all “Bat-Dad” on some hapless fan of the opposing team.
"My doctor said I'd quit getting nosebleeds if I just kept my finger out of there!"
-Ralph Wiggum
Like a Rocky Horror nightmare
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
I think they led the nation in murders a couple of years ago
that’s something, I guess
by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Oct 8, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Can we get back to football at some point instead of ragging on people’s hometowns, even factually?
You sure Ike isn’t reacquainting himself with his fingers, he certainly doesn’t use them for catching. - Brian (DaBolts) on "Face Me Ike"
lol
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Enjoy talking with your fellow meatheads.
You sure Ike isn’t reacquainting himself with his fingers, he certainly doesn’t use them for catching. - Brian (DaBolts) on "Face Me Ike"
Archie is that you?
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
calm down tough guy
Does calling me a meathead count as talking about football?? LOL
I GUARANTEE you wouldn’t call me a meathead to my face. So why waste your/my/everyone’s time by doing it here?
Let’s just keep it civil, or I’ll come to the trailer park looking for you.
by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Oct 9, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Don’t you mean come from the trailer park you confederate SMG-owning sister-banging hick? (this is all the stereotypes I could come up with)
I GUARANTEE you wouldn’t be talking about all of the murders in detroit in most of the city, so why waste your/my/everyone’s time doing it here?
You sure Ike isn’t reacquainting himself with his fingers, he certainly doesn’t use them for catching. - Brian (DaBolts) on "Face Me Ike"
And yes, the first line wasn’t serious. I’ll stop now though, because you know I only ever talk about football.
You sure Ike isn’t reacquainting himself with his fingers, he certainly doesn’t use them for catching. - Brian (DaBolts) on "Face Me Ike"
Man, you didn't comment on my Archie Bunker line
Oh dang…you only talk football now. Nooooooooooo say it isn’t so. Oh wait you are the king of sarcasm. Wait..but you might be serious. Wait you serious? I hate thinking out loud.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
okay, I'll stop
but I just gotta know, what is SMG?
by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Oct 9, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Sub-machine gun?
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
He owns you?
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Your sub-machine guns aren’t next to your rocket launchers, grenades, and nukes?
You sure Ike isn’t reacquainting himself with his fingers, he certainly doesn’t use them for catching. - Brian (DaBolts) on "Face Me Ike"
lol you saying he is Al Qaeda?
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
he's talking football, taking offense to a new level
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Oct 9, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Sweet ...then lets go for the nuke offense
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
I think you meant Sweed. He’s good at dropping the bomb.
You sure Ike isn’t reacquainting himself with his fingers, he certainly doesn’t use them for catching. - Brian (DaBolts) on "Face Me Ike"
Ahhh you saw the ball on the tee
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Thanks, was having trouble figuring out the nukes. But the rest are: most special teams have gunners, we have sub machine gunners. Rocket launchers is our new O-line. Grenade is Lagersky.
"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest. If you can't take it, you shouldn't play." Jack Lambert
by LongTimeSteelersFan on Oct 9, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't for get the BFG
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Steelers don't have gimmees on the road
Pittsburgh annually plays a road clunker, losing a game they should win. They should dominate Detroit, but there are no gimmees away from Pittsburgh for the Steelers.
2008 – 6-15 at Eagles: I know they finished well, but they started 2-3 (including a win over over Pittsburgh) and McNabb and Westbrook were playing hurt/knocked out of the game).
2007 – 16-19 OT at Jets: NY went 4-12 and Pittsburgh played an atrocious game.
2006 – 13-20 at Raiders: Oakland went 2-14. A win would have put Pittsburgh in playoffs over KC.
2005 – 13-16 OT at Ravens: Baltimore was a crappy 6-10.
Even in 2004’s 15-1 season, the one loss was 13-30 at Baltimore. The Ravens were a pedestrian 9-7 that year.
Dont count that 04 game
That was also Tommy (cant say his last name) throwing the ball in that game if you recall. And once Saint Ben stepped in, he played really well. If we had started him, perhaps we’da been the 16-0 guys.
Wasn't there a Texans
game in there somewhere that the Steelers held them to under 100 yards of total offense and still managed to lose by a wide margin? Yep, there it is – 2002. Texans 47 total net yards, Steelers 422 total net yards. Final score 24-6, Texans! GACK!! Texans had a fumble return for a TD and 2 INTs returned for TDs. Steelers ended up with to stupid FGs from Jeff Reed. Texans had 3 1st downs, including 1 by penalty. Steelers had 24!! Nearly doubled ’em up in TOP as well, 39:41 to 20:19.
Anyway, that one was in the Burgh and you are talking about the road. Either way, there are NO GIMME GAMES and the Steelers have plenty of history from which to learn.
Also, I was at that stinkin’ Jets game in the Meadowlands. What an uninspired performance, to say the least.
The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games
by chewiesteeler on Oct 9, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Why'd you bring up that Oakland game
That one just hurts… Especially since one more win that year put us in the playoffs, and we heated up near the end… Ugh.
But anyway yeah I think Tomlin gets a good grip on the team and keeps us from blowing these totally winnable games.
And having lived in Detroit for a while, I can tell you this much, they gonna lose.
By the way my dad will be front row, near EZ corner. So I’m hoping to see him on tv
It was horrible
I watched that game in a Steeler bar here in Ohio. I’m not sure I’ve seen them play worse (at least, not when they were that much better than the other team). A couple tables of Browns fans absolutely loved it. Not that I blame them.
Ravens are not nice
Hope your boys don’t forget, no touching pretty pretty Carson. Not fair to even scare him by snarling or anything. Pretty, pretty, no touchy.
On the other hand, if you’re going to get 15 yards & a first down, might has well get full value, and nail his ass.
"More than 70 percent of putts left short do not go in."
Would love to
Carson has his number on us, as he is 6-3 all time against the Ravens. But we will get him to the ground. Even if it is after he has released the football.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Why do you spend so much time here?
No- wait…
…i don’t care.
/seeing through your closet door
28-27 Bengals
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
I just said that because he's a Ravens fan!
Quit makign him feel better
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
Somebody's go to make them feel better
they have a bunch of losses coming — two from us alone
by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Oct 9, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think
the Steelers will treat this as a gimme game. I believe they look at this as a game they need to have. If they lose I don’t think it will be because they overlooked it. They probably circled the date on the calendar once Foote went there.
That would be nice
I think he’ll go for close to a hundy and one touch.
The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games
by chewiesteeler on Oct 9, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Ever since Raiders 06
I havent considered any game a gimmie.
Raiders is one of the games i have scheduled, just to get that memory out of my head
Lions look vulnerable as vulnerable can be, but that doesnt mean the “Any given Sunday” rule doesnt apply
Bleeding Black and Gold.....forever
I dont count that one though
Yes that game was god awful. But two things:
1. It was a Cowher coached game. He let this team play down to opponents. Tomlin seems better about this.
2. Ben stopped a car, and 3 Falcons, with his face that year.
Those two factors essentially allow me to pretend 2006 didn’t happen. Honestly thats how I view it. If Ben doesnt get all screwed up that year, we probably do really well.
Yeah
2006 was rough for sure. Although I dont think Cowher let his teams play down, they never responded to him as well as they do to Tomlin these days. Cowher was an Enforcer, Tomlin is a guide….guidor….guid….you get the point
Bleeding Black and Gold.....forever
by Michael Hewitt on Oct 9, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
word
Personally I think Cowher, maybe through his coaching style, just played a softer game on some teams. It always felt like we didnt go for the jugular enough. Like he was content to just do 3 runs and hope for a first, and if it didnt happen, there was always next drive.
At least it seemed that way to me in the later years.
Hard for me to believe we lose in Detroit. With just a 2-2 start, every game must be treated with serious urgency. I do agree however, that the next two games will tell us if we have a real shot at winning #7. If we go out and take care of our business like we should, then Cincy, and Chi were just potholes in the road. If we struggle however, then there are real problems.
13 years and no playoff wins for the Dallas Cowboys... SWEET!
rec'd from me
only because i agree that his is the type of game that can help determine what kind of team this is. a lot like the 06 raiders game. lets take care of business. And I also agree, this Lions team is not all that pathetic. Well coached too. And they’re coming off a bad loss where I think their coach will have them working hard this week.
Freel free to email me anytime at behindthesteelcurtain@gmail.com with questions, suggestions, complaints, etc, or to just say what's up. -Michael Bean (Blitz)
Agreed
This is a game that will illuminate the ‘character’ our team.
Illuminate the coaching
as much, or more, than the team itself.
We know what this team is, but does the coaching staff have the moxi to keep it from getting flat and over-confident?
OK
I kinda lumped coaches & players together as team in my own mind if not with my wording.
Ok here's my random post of the hour
Three upsets this week
Chefs over Crygurls
Titans over Dolts
Glams over Vikes
That is all
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
None of those will happen
I like the thought of them though
by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Oct 9, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
At least one will. I think the most likely is the Chefs.
It’s just that week 5 let down by after a tough loss.
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
I see where you're going
I just think the Cowgirls are too talented (did I just say that?) for the Cheifs….The Colts will blow out Tennessee, something like 35-14….The Vikings will SPANK the Rams, oh, maybe 33-6….I’d be ecstatic if they all happened like you said tho
by SteelerStuckintheSouth on Oct 9, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Great Googooly Moogooly!
Man, this fur coat is hot!
by The Terrible Fan on Oct 10, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
The Chefs almost won!!
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
id take 2 outta 3 money line
Ron Paul was Right.
by Steelchamps !! on Oct 10, 2009 3:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Show 'em what you're made of.
Yeah, the Lions probably are getting better. But anything’s better than the way they’ve been in recent years. It’s time for the Steelers to stop playing patty cakes with crappy teams like this. Still looking for our first, convincing victory.
ill take a Unconvincing W
… over a convincing L … (i think i just confused myself)
Ron Paul was Right.
by Steelchamps !! on Oct 10, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes it is a gimme
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill
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