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Steelers 28 - Denver 10 - More Post Game React

Some more thoughts from me about last night's joyous 28-10 victory by the Pittsburgh Steelers over the Denver Broncos. 

* I actually really enjoyed the commentating by Jon Gruden and Ron Jaworski last night. Gruden in particular. I said to my girlfriend, 'what game are you watching' when he was convinced that Rashard Mendenhall had fumbled inside the 5 yard line. But outside of that, I really enjoyed listening to him gush about the Steelers organization - from top to bottom. Sure, he and Jaws were going a little overboard in their praise of Ty Law and the rest of the Broncos over-hyped secondary, but generally speaking, I thought they were great - mostly because they couldn't stop with their effusive praise of the Steelers. 

* Elvis Dumer-who? Max Starks gobbled up the 5'11" pass-rushing linebacker.

* Brett Keisel has matched his sack total from the previous two season combined (3) in his last two games.

* The Steelers set a franchise record last night by scoring 27 or more points for their fifth consecutive game.

* With his 3 touchdown passes last night, Big Ben increased his 2009 season total to 14. That puts him just 3 TDs shy of his total from last year, and 4 scores shy of his second highest total ever, 18, which he had in 2006. 

* I didn't get to either of these two guys in last night's post, but kudos to Nick Eason and David Johnson for quietly having solid games. Eason was very active running from sideline to sideline, while Johnson did a mostly solid job blocking for Rashard Mendenhall.

* Mentioning David Johnson makes me think about just how many rookies are playing this year for the Steelers. Think about it. Every last draft pick is still with the team and a very healthy share of them have made game day contributions for this team.

* While we're still on the subject of rookies, that was almost an extremely critical penalty by Joe Burnett at the end of the half when he ran in to Mitch Berger. It was only a 5 yard penalty, but it very well could have been 15 and put the Broncos back in business before the end of the half. 

* I heart Casey Hampton. I really wonder if he'll be around in future years (I sure hope so), but he's still such a warrior out there. He just blows up the interior of offensive lines - has done so now for just about a decade. 

* I suppose one other beef I had with the telecast was the announcing crew clamoring about why neither Josh McDaniels nor Mike Tomlin called a timeout in that end of half sequence. It made no sense for Coach Tomlin to call a timeout there, even if the Broncos were faced with 3rd and 12. There was fewer than 30 seconds left and frankly, the Steelers were a bit fortunate to be up 7-3 at that point. The half had blown by quickly and the Steelers offense had only been on the field for 3 series. Denver meanwhile had just converted a 3rd and long and I thought it made no sense to let the Broncos talk it over and dial up a play of their choosing. By not calling timeout, they were guaranteed more or less to run that conservative draw that they ran. Sure it meant we wouldn't have a chance to score, but there wasn't much time on the clock anyway, and at best, the Steelers would have had a very outside shot at getting a field goal. Finally, when you factor in the fact that we were going to get the ball to start the 2nd half. No harm, no foul there by Coach T. I liked the decision just fine.

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The field level replay that showed Starks just towering over Elvis and swatting him around was a thing of beauty. So nice to have highlight reel fodder from the line.

Along these lines, one day removed from the adrenal overload, one of my favorite moments from the game must have BB slapping Chris K on the helmet after the fumble-6. The drive up to the fumble had been authoritative, and for the offense, and the line in particular, to shake it off so quickly and respond with a 4 play, 4 player, eighty-whatever yard TD drive was the biggest smackdown I think we’ve seen this season. The rest of the game seemed pretty much scripted after that.

Great contributions, Blitz. Thanks for your efforts.

by thedonger on Nov 10, 2009 8:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

no problem

And you’re right, I loved that moment too with BB and Chris K. It was all of them though, Ben got in their faces a little bit and challenged them. He’s always defending them, and I love that. Good to see him feel comfortable getting up in their faces every once in a while. They certainly responded nicely.

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by Michael Bean (Blitz) on Nov 10, 2009 8:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Kiesels Mile High Salute is my new background.

However I found the announcers unlikable. It seemed like they would flip flop every 2 seconds. And sure, announcers need to do that, its not like they can sit there and be biased every game (mainly because they cant announce every Patriots game), but a good example is the red zone int. They were just gushing about how calm Ben is in the pocket, how accurate he is and what good decisions he makes. Then he throws the pick and the tone completely changes, 180 degrees in less then a second. Again, some of this is normal, but it felt too back and forth for my tastes.

And damn you Donger, I was just about to hit post and you beat me.

Ryan Clark remarked that Coach Tomlin once asked whether he wanted to be the nail in the defense, or the hammer. "I said, 'I want to be the hammer coach.'"

by svenhoek on Nov 10, 2009 8:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Sobering

One graphic that was put up was the number of wins in the first five years by a QB.

I know Ben came to a good team, but this was amazing… the number one name on the list was Tom Brady who (if I recall correctly) has three more wins than Ben — and Ben has 8 games left to play! Barring a total collapse, this stat will be owned by Ben at the end of the year…

The other guys on the list were guys like Peyton, and Marino… really an amazing thing when you stop to think about it…

Other thoughts:

  • By and large I like the new MNF crew also. Yes, they go on and on sometimes, but that is hard not to do when you are talking for three hours. All announcers seem to have a tendency to come into a game with pre-conceived story lines, and sometimes they make no sense the way a game unfolds, and guys usually can’t drop them… maybe it was coincidence, but it seemed to me that the soundtrack matched the game last night… My only real complaint is that the voices of Jaws and Gruden are pretty similar, and sometimes it takes a moment to figure out who is talking…
  • Kudos go to the Steelers backups who did not let the standard drop. Fox looked great out there. Carter played better than I can remember.
  • This was Santonio’s best game since Week 1. Loved the blocking and the clutch catches.
  • I think we need to start a fund to buy a hyperbaric oxygen chamber for Mike Wallace. Hines and Santonio slept in theirs all week, and looked great. Mike Wallace got gassed and had to head to the sidelines for oxygen — leaving us with Limas Sweed in the lineup. Oh NO! This MUST not happen again!
  • For a short guy, Hines can High Hurdle pretty damn high. I think that could make a cool reality show… line up safeties and corners and see how many Hines can leap over…
  • Did anyone see Mendenhall’s interview. Loved the humility. His answers were pitch perfect
  • Get Me My Cap Rothelisberger gave a nice interview to Suzy Kolber after the game. My favorite answer was when she asked him what he enjoys most about this offense and he said: “I am having a lot of fun just getting everybody the ball…”
  • Ryan Clark on the sidelines was so animated I was worried that he would trigger something… But it was great to see him in the sidelines, loving every minute of his team’s victory.

by MarkJoel66 on Nov 10, 2009 8:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ryan Clark.....

Does it mean you love the team a little too much when you see Ryan Clark bouncing around and you’re thinking “for god sakes man – take it easy, we don’t want you going back to the hospital!!!” ?
Really quite a second half for our guys. Orton looked absolutely stupified for most of it. Lets kill some cats on SUNDAY!!!

by SteelerNorth on Nov 10, 2009 10:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Limas

I didn’t know Wallace was out because he was winded. I did see Ben miss Sweed on his only target of the game.

I’m hoping to see Sweed get some time in the weaker games coming up. The guy has all the talent in the world and he’s working hard, it will come together. I’m all for him getting chances to put it together. If he can get it going before the playoffs we will be significantly better for it.

by Phantaskippy on Nov 10, 2009 10:22 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

the guy on steelerfury made an interesting point

Vincent Jackson is only just now putting everything together after 5 years in the league – Sweed still has a chance to do good, or even great things.

by acrollet on Nov 10, 2009 11:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And I repeat

… Why do we care?

I guess if you are saying that Limas will make a good 4th receiver, or that he might be a good addition if A) he gets better and B) Hines loses the Ponce DeLeon map he found… but other than that… who do you plan on sitting? One of our two Super Bowl MVPs? Or the guy who has made a bigger splash as a rookie wideout than anybody since Louis Lipps?

by MarkJoel66 on Nov 11, 2009 8:52 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think Sweed and Wallace

can be complementary thirds. No reason either has to be out there for each snap – situational play would suit them extrememly well, especially for red zone possessions. Ben luvs him some tall, freak jumpin’ wideouts, and Sweed is that guy. And for a long field, who better to shorten it than Wallace, at 17 ypc.

My heros have always been Steelers...

by wozzle on Nov 11, 2009 9:14 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

In addition

Chances of our top three receivers to make it through every game healthy is unlikely. It’s always valuable for your backups to get some reps so the stage isn’t too big for them when they have to step up.

I agree, I don’t want to bench any of them at any time. But there will be times when they’re not able to go and I would love to see Sweed step up during those times. Not to mention for as much as I love Holmes I worry about our ability to resign him.

by Chicago Steeler on Nov 11, 2009 9:27 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Because...

We’ll never lose a WR to free agency or, heaven forbid, an injury. It’s good to have quality depth. Limas could potentially provide that. Or, we could throw him in the dumpster, as some were ready to do with Rashard week 3. Which ever.

'I’ve learned to become a flat-liner. There’s a lot out there that’ll make your heart jump if you allow it."
-Coach Tomlin

by NYSteelersFan4 on Nov 11, 2009 9:23 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Problem is

His drops cost games. Mendy seemed ineffective, and it cost us first downs. You can be patient with that guy. Sweed’s drops cost games.

Wouldn’t you rather be 7-1 right now?

If that pass in the end zone goes to Wallace instead of Sweed, we beat Cincy… I would love being 7-1 right now, and owning a game against Cincy… dunno about you…

by MarkJoel66 on Nov 11, 2009 9:28 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not saying...

Start him over Wallace, and who’s to say Wallace doesn’t drop that too. He has dropped passes as well. And you can’t blame a loss on one play, even if it did take points off the board. And, I’m doing this more for a haha thing, not to be a prick, “his drops cost us games” (plural) and our potential record would only be improved by one game (singular).

I’m just saying there is no reason to give up on a physically gifted player who has shown an ability to get open deep, just because he has lapses in concentration from time to time. Luckily for us, we have talent in front of him and don’t need him now. Let him get some time in here and there, that’s all.

'I’ve learned to become a flat-liner. There’s a lot out there that’ll make your heart jump if you allow it."
-Coach Tomlin

by NYSteelersFan4 on Nov 11, 2009 9:42 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

and Louis Lipps

is who? a Hall of Famer? I certainly never heard of him.

by tannofsteel84 on Nov 11, 2009 10:06 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Serious? I can’t tell.

Wiki

Guns don't kill people. Lamar Woodley kills people. (mattyc_77 on twitter)

by BostonWahoo on Nov 11, 2009 10:29 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

well

I was kinda being sarcastic….. i heard of him in MNF broadcast. But again Mr. Lipps is not wearing a gold jacket. Point being, Wallace is having a great year as Mr. Lipps did. But will he be able to carry this recieving corps by himself? No. His main sucess is due to A. Hines and Holmes get most of the attention, B. No one really knows him since he is a rookie. Now I dont want to seem like i’m downing the guy cause I’m not. Just want to keep the conversation grounded because we’re not talking about the next randy moss here. Wallace will be good and is good thats for sure, but he will need help, if Sweed can provide that help then that bodes well for the collective team. but I initially didnt want to type all of that but I guess I should have. :)

by tannofsteel84 on Nov 11, 2009 10:35 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

But the comparison to Lipps is certainly fair

*Early round WR from the south
*Brought under the wing by a HoF (bound) WR
*In the running for Rookie of the Year, for certain

The differences are that Lipps’ Steelers teams were in a waning period and thus he was not on as large a stage as the Steelers teams of today and this decade. Wallace steps into a minor role in a championship team and has excelled at the role he’s been given. No more, no less.

I am actually pretty surprised that you didn’t know Louie the Lip prior to the comparison in the broadcast. And at no point did anyone bring up the Hall of Fame. We’re not ready to enshrine Wallace as a historically great receiver, but it does no good to minimize his contribution in a position that history has shown us is one of the most difficult to excel at as a rookie.

Guns don't kill people. Lamar Woodley kills people. (mattyc_77 on twitter)

by BostonWahoo on Nov 11, 2009 10:47 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yea

I’m young I guess compared to others, old to others, guess I’m in the middle. lol 25 is about in the middle. So I had no knowledge of him. I don’t want to minimize anything Wallace has done, he has been great. I got him on my fantasy team. I just try to defend the Sweed bashing. Heck how many James Harrison has been in this league before he became the great player he is? I think people need to just calm down. I know his 2 drops were huge, one help keep cincy in the game and lead to our defeat. But holmes had more than two drops in the bears game alone. Its not like the guy never caught a pass before. All he needs is one TD catch and I think this will all be behind us.

by tannofsteel84 on Nov 11, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Louis Lipps

84 you need to brush up on your Steeler history. Louis Lipps was a great receiver for us and we are very lucky that Wallace is off to a comparable start. I understand your point about Limas, though. We need to calm down about the drops. Holmes has ‘em, Washington had ’em, heck even Ward has ’em from time to time. The kid needs to develop because Hines is not going to be here forever and I doubt the FO will resign Holmes. I think the guy has just too many character issues for Tomlin’s taste. When that happens I can see Wallace stepping in and Sweed step up to number 3…

by Steelfrog on Nov 11, 2009 11:58 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Who's character issues...

Sorry for butting in, just curious.

'I’ve learned to become a flat-liner. There’s a lot out there that’ll make your heart jump if you allow it."
-Coach Tomlin

by NYSteelersFan4 on Nov 11, 2009 12:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What we know

After Sweed dropped the ball in the San Diego playoff game, he fell to the ground and pretended to be hurt so he could get some sympathy.

That’s something that a 7 year old does, not a grown man.

Beyond that, you’d have to ask about his work ethic and attitude in practice.

I thought it was telling when Tomlin answered the question about Wallace at his press conference. As much as he praised his ability to run, he praised his humble attitude and willingness to learn…

by MarkJoel66 on Nov 11, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Um Mark

FYI his attitude and work ethic in practice have been noted as very positive. Which is why tomlin is not going to give up on the kid, ben isn’t going to give up on the kid, and neither should you. He dropped the ball in the Ravens game (just for accuracy nothingmore :)). Like I said before all sweed need is 1 td catch to overcome this and its all over….

by tannofsteel84 on Nov 11, 2009 6:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Who gives a rats ass if any silly person on here gives up on anyone. Go ahead, MarkJoel66, keep saying the same stupid crap about Sweed over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. It wouldn’t be a posting of yours if it didn’t criticize him.

by worldtrip on Nov 11, 2009 9:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldnt call that character issues

remember he bounced back after that drop and had 2 key 3rd down catches and a great block. I think he was more upset at himself than anything. Havent seen the same thing since so I wouldnt say its a character thing….

by tannofsteel84 on Nov 11, 2009 6:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sweed can get more snaps, those guys can take 2 or 3 off and Sweed can get a good number of snaps.

It’d be nice if he turned into a solid receiver before Hines retires, Wallace Holmes and Sweed would still be a killer trio.

by Phantaskippy on Nov 11, 2009 4:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

BTW

Whatever happened to 4 receiver sets? Don’t we ever run those anymore? Most teams have four guys on the chart who play.

by SteelerBuddha on Nov 11, 2009 10:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Our fourth is Heath Miller, why would we ever take him off the field?

by Phantaskippy on Nov 12, 2009 5:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

OK

If the game is so far out of reach that Logan is our running back, Batch is QB, and Ziggy is taking all of the snaps on the D… sure, but Sweed in.

by MarkJoel66 on Nov 11, 2009 9:30 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

what about

when Hines retires? You know thats only 2 years from now. At most 3 years. If this guy can develop there won’t be a need to waste another draft pick at WR and we can focus building depth elsewhere.

by tannofsteel84 on Nov 11, 2009 10:05 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sure, that's what training camp is for

I didn’t say cut him now… I said that I can’t see putting him in a live game where scoring counts.

He had his chance, and he dropped the ball. And not his first one… At least this time he didn’t fall down and fake an injury so everyone would feel sorry for him.

No, Wallace is not perfect. Yes, Wallace has dropped one (that I can remember) that he should have had. But he has also made clutch catches that moved the chains and helped win games — and Sweed most emphatically did not.

Why? Who knows? Who cares? We’re not running a clinic on Sports Pyschology, we’re trying to win a 7th Super Bowl.

But it doesn’t even matter what I think… What matters is what the World Champion head coach, Mike Tomlin, thinks. And what he thinks, apparently, is that the only way Sweed gets in a game is if we are resting our starters, or someone is hurt.

by MarkJoel66 on Nov 11, 2009 4:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, so in an easy game we rest some starters for a few snaps and give them to Sweed. That is pretty much what we are saying they should do if they have the chance.

Nice to see we agree.

by Phantaskippy on Nov 11, 2009 4:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

but

isnt that what the preseason is for?

by tannofsteel84 on Nov 11, 2009 6:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not exclusively.

by Phantaskippy on Nov 12, 2009 5:03 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree on what Tomlin thinks

Sweed’s been inactive most games since his Cincy drop. The fact that he was active this week tells me that Tomlin wants to work him into the rotation. His action was very limited this week, but it was action (as opposed to being inactive. Certainly, he’s not getting many reps in a game, but it does appear that he’s getting some (and not just when we’re up by 30 points).

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Nov 11, 2009 6:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bingo! Blitz noticed something remarkable....

“Mentioning David Johnson makes me think about just how many rookies are playing this year for the Steelers. Think about it. Every last draft pick is still with the team and a very healthy share of them have made game day contributions for this team.”

This team had what is shaping up as a monster draft….not just with stars like Ziggy and Wallace…but with solid performers like Johnson. This IS a transitional year for the Steelers, because the roster is considerably younger than last year’s.

I know that with free agency, every year is a transitional year (unless you stink, and then it’s a rebuilding year), but it is remarkable that a Super Bowl winner can add so many rookies to its roster and actually field a stronger and much deeper squad.

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by Homer J. on Nov 10, 2009 9:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

something changing....

There was a post a few weeks ago about the playing time of rookies, and I wanted to chip in my opinion about what I think Tomlin is doing. I think what we’re seeing here is a bit of a philosophical change in the approach Tomlin is taking regarding rookies and their maturation through playing time. He came aboard and, I am surmising, in his first years as a Steelers coach he gave a lot of thought to just why players such as Baker and Davis turned out to be non-contributing factors on the team, and in listening to him talk about how players prepare and practice, I think he recognizes that it can boost a player’s confidence and push them to work harder if they can get off the bench once in a while. He seems to have done a great job this year at using the rookies in specific situations where they are much more of a help than a hindrance, even if their playing time is minimal.

On a team like the Steelers where rookies have traditionally done little their first year, I think Tomlin recognizes what a motivating factor a little playing time is. And while the Steelers’ veterans have always had a great reputation for being mentors to the younger players, perhaps they go an extra step when they see one of those new players make a significant contribution during a game. As Tomlin continues to grow as a coach, I think he’s not only growing in learning the Xs & Os, but as a motivator too…. and motivation can turn a very good player into a great player.

Just my opinion……….. but what do I know? Maybe it’s simply because the draft class was great this year.

by Steelin' on Nov 11, 2009 12:55 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Definately and a further reason

Preparation and practice cantake you only so far. In the end it is real experience that counts the most.

by steelerstyle on Nov 11, 2009 7:28 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Rooks, Practice Squadders, and IR's get extra practice time....

Tomlin gave the veterans time off during the bye week. But the rookies, some second year men, and players on the practice squad reported for practice.

Also, Tomlin gives Hines and some of the other veterans Wednesday off.

Not only does that keep the vets fresh and rested…it gives the younger players extra time to work with the coaching staff.

I would kill everyone in this room for a drop of sweet beer.
- Homer J. Simpson

by Homer J. on Nov 11, 2009 8:55 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I never cared for Gruden as a coach...

….but I have to say I like him a lot as a commentator.

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by Todd on Nov 10, 2009 10:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

+1

I agree completely with this. He got far too much credit for his Super Bowl victory… he basically took Tony Dungy’s team, and won with it. After that, he accomplished nothing.

But I like him as a commentator.

And, while we are at it, Matt Millen was a disaster as Detroit’s GM, but is pretty good as a commentator.

Hmmmm….

by MarkJoel66 on Nov 11, 2009 8:54 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well

He is the only Raiders coach to have any success in the last 20 years. And, do you honestly believe that the Bucs win the SB that year with Dungy as HC? I love Tony Dungy, and he did the hard work in Tampa, but the offense struggled his entire time there.

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Nov 11, 2009 6:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

isn’t it nice to listen to a commentator who seems to like the Steelers? Maybe it’s because he was a coach (Madden excluded) and admires what we’ve done as an organization. Ex players who were abused by the Steelers when they were in the league seem to carry grudges.

by qwikdoc on Nov 11, 2009 11:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My favorite highlight

I have seen it over and over again, and I smile every time.

After Wallace catches his touchdown pass, he sets the ball down beside himself, puts his hands up in the air signaling touchdown while still sitting, then he gets up and does that jumping up and knock bodies thing with Holmes.

So cool, so casual, so Steeler.

by worldtrip on Nov 10, 2009 11:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Bad Andy, Good Pizza.

by count'em_six on Nov 11, 2009 9:37 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Beautiful Pic

Now this is my background on my computer. Living in Colorado and having to listen to all these annoying Broncos fans that thought they were the best team in the league. Nothing is better then seeing Mike Wallace happy and Dawkins pissed!!!!! I LOVE IT

by colorado steelhead on Nov 11, 2009 9:55 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Burnett was shoved into the kicker

Not to excuse Burnett for allowing himself to get out of control, but the Denver blocker shoved him toward Berger as he ran past.

by Billy52 on Nov 10, 2009 11:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yea

hence the 5 yards not 15. But still sloppy.

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by Michael Bean (Blitz) on Nov 10, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think that was the funniest moment of the game for me

All I could think was it looked like Mitch Berger doing a street fighter II hurricane kick. (ken).

by SteelersVT on Nov 11, 2009 9:55 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

he got excited

thought he could block it, i like aggression penalties better than, mental lapse penalties. At least the guy is going hard, but yea with more experience he’ll learn how not to have his aggression be used against him

by tannofsteel84 on Nov 11, 2009 10:37 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He was pushed

Burnett could do nothing about the penalty and that is why he got a fiver. He was rushing the punter (as he should) and the upback pushed him right into Berger. The kid is blameless…

by Steelfrog on Nov 11, 2009 12:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

nah not blameless

like i was saying his aggression allowed him to get pushed, his aggression took away from his awareness and he was taken advantage up, i just think a vet knows this and will do something to adjust

by tannofsteel84 on Nov 11, 2009 6:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i agree

In fact, I wish he was returning instead of Logan.

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by Michael Bean (Blitz) on Nov 10, 2009 11:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Not me

Burnett had those two really bad fumbles in preseason. I don’t want to see him returning kicks.

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Nov 11, 2009 7:11 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you, Blitz

Logan isn’t a contributor. The Steelers would’ve been better served on all three of the kick returns had he simply taken a knee in the endzone. He did nothing in the punt returns and Tomlin replaced him late (again) so that he wouldn’t hand the ball to the opposing team on a “fumble”.

But we’re forgetting his contributions on coverage, Blitz. We must remember how important it is that he is the first guy blocked in a punt return. That’s huge.

by 13thieves on Nov 11, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I am starting to wonder about Logan as some others are. The best PR we had this week was Moore’s. But, in no way do I want Burnett returning any kicks. I think he had 5 or 6 returns in the preseason and fumbled twice. One of them was by running into his own guy. I can’t remember for sure, but I think the other was pretty bad as well, maybe one of those where he just lost it without contact.

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Nov 11, 2009 6:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Logan contributes

Logan had one punt return vs. Denver for 14 yards. He has the green light from Tomlin to return KOs from the end zone because he is better than most KO return men in the league. Logan hasn’t been spectacular but he’s primarily responsible for a significant improvement in the Steelers’ return game, which is the whole idea behind him being on the team. Halfway through the year, the Steelers are averaging 25.0 yards per return (Logan’s average is 26.1) , which ranks No. 6 in the league. Last year, the Steelers ranked No. 29 with an average of 21.7. On punt returns, the Steelers rank No. 23 with an average of 6.8 yards (Logan’s average is 7.9); last year, the Steelers ranked tied for last at 6.0 yards. He also has seven total special teams tackles, the same as last year’s rookie of the year Patrick Bailey. Logan might be disappointing to some people who had high expectations and obviously he hasn’t been great in PR, but the bottom line is that the team has improved dramatically in KR and taken a (small) step forward in PR. You can argue that overall it’s not enough improvement to justify a game-day roster spot, but there’s no argument that he has helped improve the team.

by steeler.lifer on Nov 12, 2009 3:36 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good points

I may have been too easily swayed by a somewhat down game for him this week. You can’t argue with those numbers, and we had this discussion a couple of weeks ago. There really isn’t a player out there that we can point to and say that this person would clearly bring more value than Logan. And, I’m sorry Blitz, but I in no way, shape or form want to see Burnett returning kicks this year. His performance in the pre-season on returns was horrible. Yeah, Logan had a big fumble on a play he probably should have called for the fair catch. But, he caught the ball cleanly, and the fumble was after he had been pushed back 2-3 yards, was being held up, and had the ball ripped from his hands. Contrast that with Burnett running into his own player and just losing control of the ball. Between the two, give me Logan every time.

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Nov 12, 2009 9:42 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd like to see Moore taking punts

But keep Logan in for KR and coverage duties. He’s done real well in coverage and although I’ve lowered my KR expectations at this point, I still think he has the best chance of anyone on our roster to take one to the house.

by TheCincinnatiConqueror on Nov 12, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I could see that

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Nov 12, 2009 7:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Clean up the posts, please.

This is what was written:

I said to my girlfriend, ‘what game are you watching’ when he was convinced that Rashard Mendenhall had fumbled inside the 5 yard line.
*

This implies that your girlfriend is a guy. It took me a few re-reads to realize that “he” referred to Jon Gruden, who was referenced in a previous sentence fragment.

As the guys on NFL Countdown would say…. “C’MON, MAN!”

Then:

The Steelers set a franchise record last night by scoring 27 or more points for their fifth consecutive games.
*

Game, not games. There’s an edit button. C’MON, MAN!

Next, this one:

“While we’re still on the subject of rookies, that was almost an extremely critical penalty by Joe Burnett at the end of the half when he ran in to Mitch Berger. It was only a 5 yard penalty, but it very well could have been 15 and put the Broncos back in business before the end of the half.
*

No mention of the fact that he was aiming directly at the punter’s launch point, but was shoved into the punter by a Bronco? And what is “extremely critical”? Is that, like, “really unique”?

C’MON, MAN!

The grammar and punctuation in your last bullet-point? I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.

“there was fewer than 30 seconds left”

There was?

“Finally, when you factor in the fact that we were going to get the ball to start the 2nd half.”

Is there a thought here, or just a sentence that committed suicide halfway through?

Lastly, you credit Tomlin for not calling a timeout after 2nd down during the last sequence of the first half. However, you should have mentioned that calling a timeout after 3rd down was a terrible, terrible idea.

With under half a minute left and the Broncos punting from their 45 yard line, only bad things can happen. We can rough the punter, giving the Broncos the ball at our 40 (and in field goal range at Mile High). We can fumble the punt and give up a cheap score. We can fall victim to a sneaky-smart fake punt.

But, with their punter emphasizing a quick kick, there is no plausible reason to even consider the possibility of mulling the idea of thinking about trying to attempt a block. I’d be shocked if Tomlin hadn’t told Logan to fair catch the ball at all costs.

Calling that timeout at the end of the 1st half was unfounded optimism, bordering on greed. We were up 7-3 and getting the ball first in the second half. Why, why, why?

Sigh.

I’m new here, but is this the kind of blogging that goes on around here? Bad analysis, worse grammar, a total lack of thought processes, and no willingness to edit posts? The bottom of my screen says that Blitzburgh is the site founder and editor. I guess that’s sort of like being the owner and GM of a team (see Dan Snyder). You might be okay with one of the two, but trying to juggle both jobs might be, as President Obama says, “over your pay grade.”

by taffastrophe on Nov 11, 2009 3:39 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, you’re clearly new here.

Bad analysis? Total lack of thought processes? Taffastrophe, if you are so turned off by the “poor quality” of this blog then don’t come back. Confine yourself to some other Steelers blog that meets with your high standards. Why waste your time with people like us that are your intellectual inferiors? Shouldn’t this be an easy decision for you? Don’t go away mad—just go away.

Personally, I’m extremely impressed with the level of depth, detail, and civility in the discussions on this blog. Does that make me some kind of crude, low-functioning member of Steelernation in your eyes? Based on your elitist comments above, I’m guessing it does. I don’t care to expend any effort to change your opinion, but I do think it is foolish for you to intentionally and repeatedly engage in distasteful experiences.

So, taffastrophe, stay off this blog if it is such an unpleasant experience for you. If you keep coming around, I don’t think that experience is going to improve, as most of the other regulars here are probably going to agree that your elitist thoughts reveal a lot more about you than the quality of BTSC.

by gcn on Nov 11, 2009 4:16 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

and btw

Your analysis sucks ass tool. Of course you call a timeout there when Mitch Berger is about to punt. You DON’T call a timeout after 2nd down because you don’t want to give them a chance to keep the drive alive. But you most certainly call a timeout to see if your speedy return guy can return a punt from one of the worst punters in the league.

Open your eyes first of all before you insult. You’re a freakin’ donkey.

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by Michael Bean (Blitz) on Nov 11, 2009 4:20 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Nov 11, 2009 10:46 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lets keep going einstein

From a recent comment:

LJ will be 30 next week, has lost a step, isn’t a team player, cannot catch the ball, and practically refuses to pass-block. If he ends up anywhere, in my opinion, it’ll be San Diego (who really have missed Michael Turner’s physical presence over the past two years) or New England. I would bet various body parts that the Steelers wouldn’t even consider signing him.

Okay, if I was a d-bag like yourself, I’d mention that CANNOT is two words.

Anyway, go shave your goatee, grow up and get back to me when you have something to contribute.

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by Michael Bean (Blitz) on Nov 11, 2009 4:28 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ill try not to get too vitriolic

But let me just say from the sound of you and by looking at your comments here and your profile, there’s no doubt in my mind that I can run circles around you and your arrogant intelligence. Hope things get better for you – maybe you’ll start a blog of your own, you’ll get a job or something and have less time to critique other’s hobbies, and shit, maybe you’ll lose the goatee, the attitude and find a girl or something to occupy some of your down time.

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by Michael Bean (Blitz) on Nov 11, 2009 5:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ohhh snap

But C’MON MAN, your analysis is shoddy yet again and in the process you’re proving his point! Judging by taffastrophe’s picture he has a full beard, not a goatee. I don’t know why I waste my time on this site considering that you can’t identify the difference between the two.

by HereWeGo on Nov 11, 2009 9:02 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

blitz broke out the blow torch and pliers on that fool

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Nov 11, 2009 10:48 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Medieval

When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen

by 5020 on Nov 11, 2009 12:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Zed's dead

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Nov 11, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

“Who’s Zed?”

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by Johnny_S on Nov 11, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Go and get the gimp

The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games

by chewiesteeler on Nov 11, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

gimp's sleepin' .. .. ..

The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games

by chewiesteeler on Nov 11, 2009 2:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Spider caught a couple of flies...

"My doctor said I'd quit getting nosebleeds if I just kept my finger out of there!"
-Ralph Wiggum

by SteelFever on Nov 11, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's Just Your Pride F*ckin' With You

When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen

by 5020 on Nov 11, 2009 3:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Royale with cheese?

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Nov 11, 2009 5:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Look at the big brain on Brad!!

"My doctor said I'd quit getting nosebleeds if I just kept my finger out of there!"
-Ralph Wiggum

by SteelFever on Nov 11, 2009 8:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Just FYI Blitz

Cannot is proper usage. Either can not or cannot are appropriate. It’s one of those weird rules.

Anyway, I agree with everything else though.

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by Johnny_S on Nov 11, 2009 11:03 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously??

Looking at your signature….someone actually said they’d take Orton over Ben? What are they drinking? I gotta get some of that.

Bad Andy, Good Pizza.

by count'em_six on Nov 11, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

A very misguided, homeristic Broncos fan.

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by Johnny_S on Nov 11, 2009 12:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

if you want to edit grammar, spelling and punctuation

I have grips of high school essays you can edit. Gloms.

by kittoftheonvariety on Nov 11, 2009 4:36 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Dog pile on the rabbit dog pile on the rabbit

Gadzooks man (is that a word?), this is a freakin’ internet blog! And a damn good one, I might add. Get a grip. Who pissed in your Cheerios last night?

Oh, btw, if you hadn’t noticed, even Art Rooney, Jr. gave this site props. I guess he don’t know shit either. Damn, please pardon the grammer in that last sentence.

The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games

by chewiesteeler on Nov 11, 2009 7:30 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, that was a worthless use of space in an otherwise civil and intelligent conversation.

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Nov 11, 2009 7:48 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Let me guess...

You’re single?

Bad Andy, Good Pizza.

by count'em_six on Nov 11, 2009 9:43 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Hey taffastrophe?

You sir, should change your screen name to “Douche Bag”? I think that may be a bit more fitting. Something tells me you were beat up frequently as a child. As a former teacher of English, I see more than one flaw in your writing! I’m certainly not going to sit here and point them all out; I have a life.

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by Cdsumm on Nov 11, 2009 9:52 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

dude get a life

I wasted time at work to read your gar-bage. This is blog. Thats right a blog. Plus its easier to burn down a house because of its flaws than to build it from the ground up. In other words, I never seen you write a post or a fanshot for that matter. How bout you try writing something yourself and see people pick it apart before you go overly critical on grammer. Why do you need to be the prick english teacher? Are you over-compensating your lack of life for intelligence? Which I don’t even know that this is intelligent. I mean think about it, how smart was it to come up here and bash the HBIC (Head blogger in charge). Did you think would accomplish anything other than wasting your own time? Honestly you sound like a 13 year old who picked up a grammer book and decided to nick-pick. Grow up please. I mean I care for everyone and sincerely wish you would get a life so you don’t have to worry about imperfect grammer on a sports blog.

Sigh…..

by tannofsteel84 on Nov 11, 2009 10:23 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

You are complaining about the posts here? Try going to the Steelers official message board or ESPN.

This site is miles and miles better than all of those websites combined.

by Han on Nov 11, 2009 10:52 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

WTF?????

How’s that for grammar, a$$hole??

Who's laughing now, O Line??? Ben Roethlisberger (from the Podium) to his O-Line and the world in Superbowl XLIII

by SteeladyinVA on Nov 11, 2009 11:29 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

raising the hackles of the BTSC nation can be hazardous. Is your screen on fire?

by qwikdoc on Nov 11, 2009 11:49 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You suck!

Just joining the mob.

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by Johnny_S on Nov 11, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Here's a rotten tomato

And a few eggs! And pieces of pavement! Off with his head, off with his head!!!!!!!!!!!

by Steelfrog on Nov 11, 2009 12:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Just an interesting fact I pointed out to Vikings fans and Bronco fans

While all of the Vikings and Broncos fans were predicting blowouts for their teams against us, I thought to myself…I cannot remember the last time we were truly blown out. So I decided to dig into our past box scores since Tomlin has been here.

In 44 games (40 regular season, 4 post season) under Tomlin’s rule we have lost by more than 9 points twice. Once to the Pats in 2007 and once last year to the Titans. Also, in those 44 games we have only lost by more than a touchdown 3 times. Those two games above, and the Eagles last year. If that is not impressive…I don’t know what is.

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by Johnny_S on Nov 11, 2009 8:58 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah But the Eagles...

The Eagles looked close on paper because our defense did a nice job of keeping it close… but that was a horrible game to watch. Their defense completely owned our line.

I remember thinking that someone needed to be fired after that game. It was that bad.

by MarkJoel66 on Nov 11, 2009 9:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That and that Pats loss were demoralizing. The Titans game was a lot closer than it appeared on the score board.

That is just a great statistic though. Two of those “blow outs” were against teams who finished with the best records that year. Not too shabby.

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by Johnny_S on Nov 11, 2009 9:15 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Great stats, johnny

The way everyone was talking after the eagles game, you would have thought we got beat by 30

I hope that grammar guy doesn’t come back cuz i doesnt speell weell.

by 1STstate bucco on Nov 11, 2009 11:22 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think he's coming back

He got slammed. I’ve never seen so many replies to one person’s comments before.

You hear that Blitz? We love you man!!

The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games

by chewiesteeler on Nov 11, 2009 11:47 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the grammar tips, teach.

Bueller? Bueller?

I’d party with you any Saturday night, pal. Yeah, right.

I would kill everyone in this room for a drop of sweet beer.
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by Homer J. on Nov 11, 2009 9:00 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

the MNF crew . . .

. . . can be annoying, but Gruden is still 1000 times better than Kornheiser was. Still can’t stand the pregame/halftime segments, though; Chris Berman’s shtick makes me want to drive a railroad spike into my face.

P is for Latrobe.

by holiday park on Nov 11, 2009 9:40 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

+1

Also way better than Dennis Miller. At least we have another guy (meaning in addition to Jaworski) in the booth that knows football.

Bad Andy, Good Pizza.

by count'em_six on Nov 11, 2009 9:50 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Jaws knows football

and is the only one I can semi-stand on there. The other two are wastes of the energy required to listen to them.

by TheCincinnatiConqueror on Nov 11, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No doubt there. I remember when they had Russel Crowe (I think it was him or some celebrity) and Kornheiser just gushed over him and inflated his ego the entire game. It was like he forgot there was a football game going on. Made me sick.

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by Johnny_S on Nov 11, 2009 10:07 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Gruden needs to leave some of the hyperbole out

He is bursting with excessive praise, ever athlete, is amazing, and dominant, and a true football player. I wish he brought more of a coach perspective to the analysis instead of talking everyone up. I can’t imagine his coaching style was so upbeat. I want to see him point out blown assignments and screwups, almost like it was his players he was chewing out when watching game film.

by vherub on Nov 11, 2009 10:26 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Is Fat Casey a Hall of Famer?

I agree with Blitz’s love for Casey. Replacing him is going to be a huge challenge for the team someday.

Is he a HOFer? It’s impossible to evaluate 3-4 NTs with statistics, but the guy is already a 4x Pro Bowler, has two rings, and has been a cornerstone of the top defense of the decade. Does he have a shot?

by Steelers in XLIV on Nov 11, 2009 11:36 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'd like him too, but I doubt it...

Not very many defensive linemen in the hall to begin with (only 5 inducted since 1980, I think). When you combine that with the lack of stats, and lack of public appreciation from everyone except Steelers fans, I think his chances are slim. Maybe though, we can always hope, right?

'I’ve learned to become a flat-liner. There’s a lot out there that’ll make your heart jump if you allow it."
-Coach Tomlin

by NYSteelersFan4 on Nov 11, 2009 11:55 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

How’s that for analysis?

Actually, I bet he runs into the same scenario facing Dirt Dawson right now. I know, opposite sides of the ball but, as you mention, like it or not, there are no stats to boost the case of a Center and/or a Nose Tackle.

Sportswriters love sacks (huh huh) and the NT in a 3-4 typically is not piling up stats? How do you quantify the number of times Casey occupied 2 or 3 guys at one time freeing up the Linebackers to pick up the sack?

In any event, I think he has a shot. Might take a while but he’ll be nominated and then we’ll see.

The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games

by chewiesteeler on Nov 11, 2009 11:55 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Phantom question mark in there

hope I don’t get scolded.

The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games

by chewiesteeler on Nov 11, 2009 11:56 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hines 2 or 3 yrs left???

I think that the way he is playing he probably has more years than that left. just have to hope its with the steelers .thats what makes me a bit nervous about guys as they get older, they feel like they can keep playing but the team doesn’t feel the same and they finish their careers elsewhere. I can really see that happening with ward and possibly ben . hines doesn’t seem to be anywhere near retirement yet tho,and i’m sure that somebody will feel he should when he might not be ready yet so he goes to another team. I really hope not but . there now that was a very grammatically incorrect paragraph .i’ve never had any problems with any of your posts blitz . but then again obviously i’m not an english major. keep up the good work dude

by billsteelcity on Nov 11, 2009 12:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hines

just signed an extension this year, so I think he’s a Steeler for good.

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by WolfpackSteelersFan on Nov 11, 2009 7:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

* I actually really enjoyed the commentating by Jon Gruden and Ron Jaworski last night.

For the most part I agree, the Jaws/Gruden duo is pretty good, but there are times (especially in this game) where they go overboard trying to praise both teams. At times it felt like they were trying to hype of this game like it was a “once in a decade” type of game. A couple of examples:

 - At one point they referred to Holmes as a “perennial Pro-Bowler” and while I have no doubt that he’ll eventually make it to his share of PB’s. Shouldn’t he have at least one trip to Hawaii before he’s considered “perennial.”
 - At one point they said that you’ll “never see to better safeties on the field at the same time,” obviously referring to Dawkins and Troy. Don’t we see better safeties on the field twice a season when the Steelers play the Ravens?

That’s just a couple of things that really stuck in my head. Obviously neither are egregious claims but it just seemed obvious that they were trying to over-hype the game instead of just letting us enjoy the action on the field.

Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

by Bezekira on Nov 11, 2009 12:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Unfortunately,

it’s what they are being paid to do these days – not describe the game, not explain the game, but hype the game. ESPN has selected some pretty shatsful games for MNF this year (or had the NFL FO select them) and is losing viewers.

I suspect that the producers are running the show now – this isn’t your daddy’s (or mine, for that matter) MNF anymore.

My heros have always been Steelers...

by wozzle on Nov 11, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought the MNF games so far this year have been mostly fantastic. Great games.

by worldtrip on Nov 11, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Unyill this upcoming Monday...

I predict a snoozer. Seriously, every team deserves to have a prime time spot, but this one is gonna be boring. Ratbirds-Skidmarks…at least the purple browns will have a win…

"My doctor said I'd quit getting nosebleeds if I just kept my finger out of there!"
-Ralph Wiggum

by SteelFever on Nov 11, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Never know with the Browns

Last year they beat the Giants on MNF. And they were the first team to beat them last season.

by Han on Nov 11, 2009 2:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

MNF Losing Viewers?

What are you talking about?

MNF ratings are way up. They’ve aired 10 games and those games have been the 10 highest-rated cable programs of the year.

by Steelers in XLIV on Nov 11, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This rookie class is K. Colbert's best yet

Not only the 9 draft picks, but include T Ramone Foster, NT-DE Steve McClendon and RB Isaac Redman, too. Colbert said he needed a special draft and he got one. I still think the most impressive part of this draft is to come out of it with two good young 3-4 DE’s like Ziggy and Sunny Harris. That is HUGE!!!!!!

Other than a franchise QB, good 3-4 DE are very hard to find. And to think the Steelers got two in the draft and might have another good player in McClendon is kind of mind-boggling. The best scouting department in the NFL, hands-down.

Daniel Snyder will keep giving $100M contracts to players with questionable character and work ethic and the Steelers will keep letting its top-knotch scouting department drive the success of this organization.

by datruth4life on Nov 11, 2009 12:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Total agreement...

….even though I’m still hoping for Arthur Jones(knee should be fine), I can’t help thinking we tapped a rich vein in the last draft especially along the D-line.

by Marvin, The Paranoid Android on Nov 11, 2009 1:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Truth, as always, from datruth

Could the the monster draft….could be the best since ’74, which will never be equalled.

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- Homer J. Simpson

by Homer J. on Nov 11, 2009 3:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

can you

educate me on this Steve McClendon, oh wise one?

by tannofsteel84 on Nov 11, 2009 6:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

50 Bits

1) Always liked Gruden. Liked him as HC. As much as I hate the Raiders they haven’t won since he left. He may have wrote the Raider playbook and then took over Dungy’s team but he still had to win the game on Sunday. He did and got a Lombardi. And no offense to Dungy, who I admire but he never won a Super Bowl with Tampa. Really like Gruden as an announcer. Compared to Kornheiser, Dennis Miller, Madden et al Gruden is the best since Cosell.

2) The Steelers may not win a championship this year but they are for real and will be at the table. Their depth is phenomenal and they replace pieces like bicycle spokes. I think they will travel to NE and Indy in the playoffs and beat those teams in their houses on the way to team of the decade status.

3) Louie Lipps was a great player in his day. One of the only All Stars in the mid 80’s for the sad sack Steelers. He was athletic, made tough catches and was a great punt return guy in the mold of Woodson. After football he became a freeloading dead beat and a rent hopper in the Shadyside area of Pittsburgh.

4) Great analysis Blitz…and I’m a college graduate who didn’t catch any of the grammer mistakes nor do I care. My only concern is your utter disdain for goatee’s. As you know Blitz, I have a goatee AND a stunning younger girlfriend. While taffastrophe may be goatee wearing lonely troll that does not apply to all those with goatee’s.

When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen

by 5020 on Nov 11, 2009 1:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

5020, I got your number.

#4: Grammer married your Gramper. Grammar is the language thing, you colledge gradgiate, you. (I learned that in a valley school, ca 1961).

  1. is perfect – This was the best draft in a decade, and may turn out to be the best since ’74. Reloading and rebuilding are two very different avenues to success.

#1: the MNF crew is hampered by ESPN, and it’s obvious. The producers run the show, period. Want a job, hype the show.

My heros have always been Steelers...

by wozzle on Nov 11, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, easy on the facial hair lifestyle choices.

by pghnorthside on Nov 11, 2009 2:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Beatniks and hippies, all of yins.

Guns don't kill people. Lamar Woodley kills people. (mattyc_77 on twitter)

by BostonWahoo on Nov 11, 2009 2:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

i was jk about the goatee part. was just giving him a hard time. had just gotten back from a few rounds..hehe

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by Michael Bean (Blitz) on Nov 11, 2009 3:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Draft Results - Last two years

Here are the current depth chart placements of all of the players from the 2008 and 2009 drafts. We have 5 players from 2008 still with the team and all nine from 2009.

Depth chart is from Steelers.com

2009 draft picks-Position-2009 Depth Chart
-————————————————————————————-
1: evander hood DL second team
3: Kraig Urbik G second team
3: Mike Wallace WR/KR second team (#3)
3: Keenan Lewis CB third team
5: Joe Burnett CB third team
5: Frank Summers FB IR
6: Ra’shon Harris DE third team
7: Allan Shipley C practice squad
7: David Johnson TE third team

2008 Draft picks-Position-2009 Depth Chart
-————————————————————————————-
1 Rashard Mendenhall RB second team
2 Limas Sweed WR second team (#4)
3 Bruce Davis DE GONE
4 Tony Hills OT second team
5 Dennis Dixon QB third team
6 Mike Humpal LB GONE
6 Ryan Mundy S second team

by saph on Nov 11, 2009 2:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

2007 also gave us five.

Continuing this, I find that we also still have 5 players from the 2007 draft. In fact, four of those picks are regular starters.

2007 Draft picks-Position-2009 Depth Chart
-———————————————————————————
1 Lawrence Timmons OLB first team
2 LaMarr Woodley DE first team
3 Matt Spaeth TE second team
4 Daniel Sepulveda P first team
4 Ryan McBean DT GONE
5 Cameron Stephenson OG GONE
5 William Gay CB first team
7 Dallas Baker WR GONE

by saph on Nov 11, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Kenan will be good and Hampton has to go to pay for Holmes

I think this draft may be better than most think because Kenan Lewis is a 3rd teamer who is flying under radar. The guy looks smooth and fast with good strength. I could see him move into a safety position if he isn’t quite fast enough to be a corner. I think he will turn out to be 2nd round value. Also, Urbrik can push people around. He could move into the guard spot with Essex moving to tackle if Colon gets too big an offer from some sucker team who thinks being an ex-Steeler will rub off some excellence on the new teammates (see Chris Hope/Nate Wasington)

We can sign Holmes. Assign Snack"s 6 mill to Santonio. Adding Hampton’s 6 mil to Santonio’s 2 mill now gives you 8 mill per year——for a 50 mill 6 year contract. Because Santonio’s obligation to play for 2 mill in 2010 would be replaced with 8 mill next year, the contract would really be the same as Santonio playing out his contract and then signing for 9 mill per year with another team. I think something in that range would keep him, if he really wants to finish his career with Ben.

by buddydial on Nov 11, 2009 4:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Please help me understand Matt Spaeth's value

Great game by everyone involved but I’m still amazed after 3 years that this dude cannot block in the run game. He either gets pushed into the backfield or whiffs on blocks. For example, on the goal line when Rashard almost coughed it up. Everyone on the right side blocks down to the left and knuckle head blocks straight allowing the LB a direct shot on Mendy and then looks around like i did my job. As Tomlin would say, we have tape on him. It’s time for David Johnson to take his spot as the second TE and put Legursky at full back in short yardage situations.

I really think Spaeth is done as a Steeler after his contract is up.

by 72Steeler on Nov 12, 2009 1:58 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I hope you're right

He’s (Spaeth) been largely reliable catching when called upon to do so but my GAWD his blocking is beyond words. When I was in Latrobe this summer, the TEs were directly in front of me running the sled drill. The leverage, or lack thereof, from Spaeth was laughable. Then, here comes this 85 guy no one knows and BOOM!!! He cremated that thing and pushed it further than anyone, including H. Miller. Needless to say, the dude left an impression on me that day.

The only managing Ben does is he manages to WIN games

by chewiesteeler on Nov 12, 2009 7:27 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs


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